South Region Discussion

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:29 pm

Turnovers
Pasties
Empanadas

Whatever you call them, we need to avoid them.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:49 pm

Whatever.

I’ll take the pumpkin empanadas

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:16 pm

Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:29 pm Turnovers
Pasties
Empanadas

Whatever you call them, we need to avoid them.

Inability to avoid turnovers is why Mike Sweetney is no longer in the NBA.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:26 pm

Evan Battey just saw his future.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:56 pm

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:59 pm

Good stuff RS

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:08 pm

Another interesting graph from him today

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:11 pm

now this graph is worth something - Arizona has had a propensity to go on killer runs for long stretches. thank you for posting that opponents ability or lack there of to contain this factor is important to the outcome in the NCAA's. just happened to UCLA in what seemed like a matter of seconds.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:16 pm

Yeah I believe I posted that graph before

Interesting to look at it now as it relates to our bracket mates

Tcu allows more runs than they themselves go on for example and are the 4 most suspect teams in the country

Houston is scary like I've said, even if they're 1-4 in quad 1 games

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:47 am

March Madness odds 2022: Projecting the teams with best chances to make each round, win NCAA Tournament

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-ba ... ahweslv1iw

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:53 am

I hate to say it, but he's been to the final four too...

prh · Post by **prh** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:21 am

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:56 pm

Interesting thoughts:
1) our 2nd most common lineup is also not very effective (although it's barely more common than any other)
2) Lots of green for Zu and then the 2 bad ones don't include him

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:24 am

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:16 pm Yeah I believe I posted that graph before

Interesting to look at it now as it relates to our bracket mates

Tcu allows more runs than they themselves go on for example and are the 4 most suspect teams in the country

Houston is scary like I've said, even if they're 1-4 in quad 1 games

One of the positives is that Nova, Tenn, Illinois and Houston are all legit, but we can't possibly catch more than two of them.

That's not exactly bad in context. Most tournaments, you're staring at two top 15-20 teams between you and a Final Four. That's where we are. TCU and Seton Hall are good teams, but they aren't pushing top 20 for a reason.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:30 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:24 am

One of the positives is that Nova, Tenn, Illinois and Houston are all legit, but we can't possibly catch more than two of them.

yes, and its a real possibility AZ never sees any of them

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:33 am

Nova blew out Tennessee early in the season, could be interesting to see the rematch. Tennessee isn't the same team away from home.

Nova is too small for us

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:37 am

Nova has a very tough second round game for them especially if Loyola advances, they are essentially the same team with different talent. Tennessee has a difficult of a second game as well with either team that advances.

the potential attrition at the top in this bracket is the reason i was so happy with the draw

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:43 am

Jay Wrights teams usually get upset when they don't have obvious NBA talent

Very real possibility we don't face a top seeded team, maybe only the 4/5 winner. I don't really like how confident I am with our draw at this point.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:51 am

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:43 am I don't really like how confident I am with our draw at this point.

this was exactly my reaction and i immediately posted when the brackets were released the way it broke is almost too good for AZ but it seems things have been too good all year and maybe just perhaps its meant to be too good but my largest worry is the team relaxes early in the round of 32, even if its ever so slightly, cause that can be the difference in going home early and advancing.

if AZ gets to San Antonio there is no way i see them losing, even if Houston is there (which i dont think they will be)and has a home crowd.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:56 am

I hope you all are right... I'm seeing a lot of chalk in the South...

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:31 am

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Kinda interesting where tcu and Seton hall are

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:58 am

97cats wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:30 am
Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:24 am

One of the positives is that Nova, Tenn, Illinois and Houston are all legit, but we can't possibly catch more than two of them.
yes, and its a real possibility AZ never sees any of them

Yeah, I mean, I'll take a draw where it caps us at two teams in the KenPom top 20.

I view it vs years like 2016 where we got a Wichita State team that was an 11 seed vs being #13 nationally on KenPom.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:10 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:58 am
97cats wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:30 am
Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:24 am

One of the positives is that Nova, Tenn, Illinois and Houston are all legit, but we can't possibly catch more than two of them.
yes, and its a real possibility AZ never sees any of them
Yeah, I mean, I'll take a draw where it caps us at two teams in the KenPom top 20.

I view it vs years like 2016 where we got a Wichita State team that was an 11 seed vs being #13 nationally on KenPom.

I remember my reaction when I saw that draw. It was so obvious we had been fucked right in the pooper. I hated everyone.

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:21 am

through 2015-17, everyone of our exits went to under seeded teams. Xavier had one or two players that were sidelined for a chunk the season that were impact players, it affected their record and seeding. By the time we played them, they were full strength. Buffalo was much better than advertised, which was why they were top 25 the next year and Nate Oates got scooped up quickly by Alabama.

That shouldn't happen in our bracket this year.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:28 am

I may be in the minority here, but I'm not a fan of complaining about good teams being placed in our region, however "under-seeded" they may be. If we're as good as most think, we should have a sporting chance vs. just about anyone. I say bring em on.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:47 am

RawleArenas wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:21 am through 2015-17, everyone of our exits went to under seeded teams. Xavier had one or two players that were sidelined for a chunk the season that were impact players, it affected their record and seeding. By the time we played them, they were full strength. Buffalo was much better than advertised, which was why they were top 25 the next year and Nate Oates got scooped up quickly by Alabama.

That shouldn't happen in our bracket this year.

Agreed. We have some good teams, but Houston is the only one I'd really make a case for as potentially underseeded, and we wouldn't see them until the Sweet 16. Even then, Illinois may well chop them out.

That's why this year is fine. Good teams but no one you think the seeding whiffed on. Houston's metrics...I mean, maybe they should have been in the 2-3 seed conversation, but that isn't crazy for a Sweet 16 matchup. We don't have a gauntlet where the first two rounds are teams that should have been much higher.

That Xavier game in 17 still gets me hacked off. Rawle had the broken finger, we shot horribly basically all game and still 100% should have won if we didn't give it away in the last 3 minutes. That game was ours and we had a great shot vs Gonzaga.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:59 am

Houston IS underseeded as they're top 4 overall in pretty much advanced metric. However they're 1-4 in quad 1 games with the lone win being this past Sunday vs Memphis in the aac championship game.

Also Houston lost Marcus Sasser and Tramon Mark from last year's final four team in December. Sasser was their leading scorer this year before getting injured. They were a more dangerous team then.

For Illinois knocking Houston out, Curbelo imo hasn't made them a better team (we played them without him).

Illinois record with/out curbelo
Curbelo injured: 13-2
Curbelo, 1-20min: 8-2
Curbelo, 21min-plus: 1-5

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:14 pm

We ran out of things to consider, huh? It's almost as if our only job were to drink alcohol and watch the games to see what actually happens.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:13 pm

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:33 pm

Kier with his Chick-fil-A. Lol

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:38 pm

Did anyone catch the announcer opening the Bryant/wright state game?

McCarthy said the winner gets one of the biggest surprises in college basketball in #1 seed Arizona… with all those freshmen. Huh????

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:40 pm

Yup heard that but then again, when are they ever right about us?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:43 pm

Frybry02 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:38 pm Did anyone catch the announcer opening the Bryant/wright state game?

McCarthy said the winner gets one of the biggest surprises in college basketball in #1 seed Arizona… with all those freshmen. Huh????

Someone sent me an "ultimate" March Madness guide on Monday, and it referred to Benn, Terry and Kriisa as freshmen.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:54 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:33 pmKier with his Chick-fil-A. Lol

No one bringing their monitor and playstation like Ayton lol

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:47 pm

Watching the clown from Bryant. Lol. I hope we get him. He’s garbage and cocky as shit.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:53 pm

Bryant lost to Houston by 67 points.

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:57 pm

threenumberones wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:47 pm Watching the clown from Bryant. Lol. I hope we get him. He’s garbage and cocky as shit.

I’ve decided he looks like Chet from Weird Science.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:08 pm

threenumberones wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:57 pm
threenumberones wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:47 pm Watching the clown from Bryant. Lol. I hope we get him. He’s garbage and cocky as shit.
I’ve decided he looks like Chet from Weird Science.

How'd you like a greasy pork sandwich, served in a dirty ashtray?

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:11 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:53 pm Bryant lost to Houston by 67 points.

But, it wasn’t really that close!!!

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:19 pm

Kier got Crocs too? WTF?

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:20 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:08 pm
threenumberones wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:57 pm
threenumberones wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:47 pm Watching the clown from Bryant. Lol. I hope we get him. He’s garbage and cocky as shit.
I’ve decided he looks like Chet from Weird Science.
How'd you like a greasy pork sandwich, served in a dirty ashtray?

Lmao. So classic but man that dates us

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:26 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:19 pm Kier got Crocs too? WTF?

Those are Yeezys

They're even uglier than crocs

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:27 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:26 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:19 pm Kier got Crocs too? WTF?
Those are Yeezys

They're even uglier than crocs

Unpossible

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:27 pm

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:29 pm

Wright State v Bryant...we could start Ballo at point and let Krissa play in his crocs at the 5 and we'd still win by 20 against either of these teams.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:33 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:27 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:26 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:19 pm Kier got Crocs too? WTF?
Those are Yeezys

They're even uglier than crocs
Unpossible

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:36 pm

I didn’t think it was a whales dick honey.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:37 pm

Those are UHuhuhijuuuugly

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:42 pm

CatFanOneMil wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:29 pm Wright State v Bryant...we could start Ballo at point and let Krissa play in his crocs at the 5 and we'd still win by 20 against either of these teams.

Truth. Even the Colorado-space-out doesn’t keep us from the round of 32.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:43 pm

I stand corrected.

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:44 pm

Holden from Wright State with 32 points and 10 boards thus far. This kid is a legit 6'6" guard. All I can say is never underestimate your opponent. People on here making jokes about our first round opponent and talking about missing crocs. We better be ready for these guys. I think we could have our hands full if we don't bring our A game.

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