Bear Down Wildcats

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 pm**

Anyone seen an early line and O\U on tomorrow’s game? ISU is 6-0 going over in their last 6 road MONDAY night games. Pretty good trend. Also thinking that is good for us

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:44 pm**

azcat49 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 pm Anyone seen an early line and O\U on tomorrow’s game? ISU is 6-0 going over in their last 6 road MONDAY night games. Pretty good trend. Also thinking that is good for us

Zona +1
O/U 152

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2025 2:34 pm**

azcat49 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 pm Anyone seen an early line and O\U on tomorrow’s game? ISU is 6-0 going over in their last 6 road MONDAY night games. Pretty good trend. Also thinking that is good for us

First line by Fan Duel was UA -1.5 but heavy juice for Iowa State +1.5

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:23 pm**

Love our chances tomorrow.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:38 pm**

They are down a player, on the road with a quick two day turnaround. While they have won on the road they certainly have played better at home so they are vulnerable.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:58 am**

Chicat wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:26 pm
Zonawildcat3 wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:13 pm
Alieberman wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:25 pm Delly is really becoming a much needed weapon
One of the best shooters in the country but quite possibly the worse defender in the country. We need him though
How does he end up behind his man giving up easy lay ins so often? It’s baffling how often he’s trying to catch up to a ballhandler.

I guess I can live with it if he gives up 10 but gives us 12. But someone teach ADO how to stay in front of his man in the offseason!

It is absolutely a terrible habit. This is what a player coming from a team where he can't foul out because of his offense looks like. It is maddening. Trail and funnel was what he must have been taught. Delly serves a purpose as do a few of the not typical guys. Putting them together to make a cohesive team is what to me is interesting about college basketball.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:24 am**

Can't wait for tonight's game.

We need to notch a real resume building win.

This is our best chance for the rest of the year.

I plan on losing my voice at the game tonight.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:33 am**

White out.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:54 am**

Money pouring in on ISU. Cats now getting 2.5 points

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:59 am**

azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:33 amWhite out.

I miss the old, funny, lighthearted, glass-half-full Greg.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:14 am**

dovecanyoncat wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:59 am
azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:33 amWhite out.
I miss the old, funny, lighthearted, glass-half-full Greg.

That shit ended a week ago.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:25 am**

azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:14 am
dovecanyoncat wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:59 am
azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:33 amWhite out.
I miss the old, funny, lighthearted, glass-half-full Greg.
That shit ended a week ago.

PM Longhorned for some spare Super Colon Blow.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:36 am**

dovecanyoncat wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:59 am
azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:33 amWhite out.
I miss the old, funny, lighthearted, glass-half-full Greg.

By the way, one of the funniest things I've ever heard involving "glass half full" is:

What's the difference between an optimist and a pessimist?

The optimist says the glass is half full.
The pessimist says the glass is half full but I might have bowel cancer.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:06 am**

The line movement on this game is crazy.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:12 am**

azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:06 am The line movement on this game is crazy.

Wondering if the sharps will bet up the Cats closer to game time.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:16 am**

Chicat wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:12 am
azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:06 am The line movement on this game is crazy.
Wondering if the sharps will bet up the Cats closer to game time.

The opening line was ISU -1.5. I've seen it now Arizona -2.5.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:24 am**

azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:16 am
Chicat wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:12 am
azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:06 am The line movement on this game is crazy.
Wondering if the sharps will bet up the Cats closer to game time.
The opening line was ISU -1.5. I've seen it now Arizona -2.5.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-ba ... owa-state/

So much for UA being the dog for the first time in 10 years.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:28 am**

azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:06 am The line movement on this game is crazy.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:29 am**

Alieberman wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:28 am
azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:06 am The line movement on this game is crazy.

Different line.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:41 am**

azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:29 am
Alieberman wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:28 am
azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:06 am The line movement on this game is crazy.

Different line.

I was told it's a white out

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:47 am**

Alieberman wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:41 am
azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:29 am
Alieberman wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:28 am
azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:06 am The line movement on this game is crazy.

Different line.
I was told it's a white out

Carry on then. Don't forget the underwear.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:18 am**

A win tonight could change this

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:30 am**

Arizona is ranked 30th in one poll and 31st in another out of 350 schools. How is that "not close" to being ranked?

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:52 am**

azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:30 am Arizona is ranked 30th in one poll and 31st in another out of 350 schools. How is that "not close" to being ranked?

For a lot of voters it takes losses by teams ahead of us to move us in, so we probably need those teams in the 20-29 range to lose possibly multiple times before we do to get ranked.

Not close = Not soon

Losing to Texas Tech set that timeline back I’m guessing. We likely would have been ranked this week had we won.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:59 am**

azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:06 am The line movement on this game is crazy.

The line moving 3 points toward Arizona is crazy. I would have chalked this one at ISU -7 though I know KP says -2. Hopefully the gamblers know what they are doing but I would have said "bad matchup for Arizona" otherwise. The game largely in my view will hinge on Arizona's guards being strong with the ball and not intimidated by ISU's on ball defense and by the Cats putting in the requisite effort on the defensive glass. Maybe the gamblers feel like Arizona is going to lock up ISU defensively?

Chicat wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:52 am Losing to Texas Tech set that timeline back

100%.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 12:00 pm**

Alieberman wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:41 am
azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:29 am
Alieberman wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:28 am
azgreg wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:06 am The line movement on this game is crazy.

Different line.
I was told it's a white out

Sniffing white out is NOT a good thing.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6701612/

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 12:01 pm**

Looking at the Bracket Matrix-

Against teams ahead of us in the rankings we are: 0-2

Our other 4 losses are vs 6 seed WV, 7 seed Texas Tech (although I think they will move up even more when the update next) 8 seed UCLA and 9th seed Oklahoma

And as of now our best wins are vs 6 seed WV 8 seed Baylor and 11 seed Central Florida.

So basically- our schedule really hasn't been that tough / we are beating all the mid to bad teams and do not have a marque win on our resume.

We need this 1 tonight.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:12 pm**

Agreed that this game is vital to our NCAA seeding and that we need it bad.

Unless WVU gets those three starters/contributors back, they will slide down to a likely 8-10 seed. I agree Tech will move up and I think UCF will get to a 8 or 9 seed.

Really still disappointed we lost to OU and UCLA. Both of those games we should have won

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:10 pm**

McCaleb shot at Mckale

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:16 pm**

Told you Love was the key to the ultimate success of the team

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:24 pm**

MVP of the game: Ari's underwear

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:30 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:31 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:45 pm**

Here is a wider version:

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:49 pm**

dovecanyoncat wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:24 pm MVP of the game: Ari's underwear

They certainly had a solid +/- tonight!!

My son and I have no voices left… craziest game I’ve ever been to

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:28 am**

AZCatGirl wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:59 pm At the game. There’s A LOT of ISU fans here. In my 97 replica jersey, Wilber socks, Arizona Nike, and even switched my watch band to white. Never worn this to a game before so we’ll see how this outfit works.

Let’s fucking go! Bear Down everyone!

So we all agree I have to go to every white out game and wear the exact same outfit, right? Good.

It's so nice being in a conference where other teams travel, but damn those fans got LOUD. Now I know how the rest of the Pac 12 felt when we traveled. Lots of very sad faces when they left. Hope they enjoyed Tucson!

The game was pretty much what I expected. Like everyone else I was thinking we were going to come up a little short when Caleb hit that shot. Everyone freaked the hell out and couldn't believe it after the night he had! OT was a bit stressful at first, but once the 3s kept going down it was a fucking party! If I didn't have an early lesson with a student tomorrow I would've stayed to hear Tommy's comments. Even on the way back to my car everyone was cheering and yelling Bear Down. I was at the Florida game but this was way more insane than that!

Hope Tommy can calm everyone down enough to go kick ASU's ass on Saturday. Last thing we need is a let down game against those fuckers.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:42 am**

IrishAzCat wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:45 pm Here is a wider version:

The entire population of Ames, Iowa is waking up with a hangover this morning

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:48 am**

This is the first opportunity to watch the game. This is why I like college basketball. And is why I'm glad the Cats are in the Big 12.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:45 am**

dmjcat wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:42 am
IrishAzCat wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:45 pm Here is a wider version:

The entire population of Ames, Iowa is waking up with a hangover this morning

Big 12 runs through Tucson

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:45 am**

FreeSpiritCat wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:48 am This is the first opportunity to watch the game. This is why I like college basketball. And is why I'm glad the Cats are in the Big 12.

So happy we are in the Big12

The run we’re gonna get from this win will be huge

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:01 am**

Great game and team played defense and adjusted to how the officials. Tobe said so post game - got an early foul but when he saw the refs were letting them play he let it ripped going after everything. Previous seasons we don’t seem to adjust well so kudos to Tommy.

Only criticism is Tommy allowing Delly to start in the second half and letting him stay till the under 16 time out. Literally lost the lead and put us against our backs. It was clear to even the casual fans that Delly can’t guard any of the ISU players and add to the fact he was getting nothing on offense, a total liability. Not to mention his very suspect handles.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:15 am**

My thoughts from McKale last night:

My voice may be lost permanently.

As soon as we got into McKale last night and made our trek around to find our seats... something was different.... Everyone in white except many little pockets of yellow. I've been to many games at McKale... but I've never seen this many opposing fans. It was kind of shocking.

This shock continued as the game started going on. When Iowa St made a few good plays, you could hear people yelling, screaming and clapping. I have NEVER heard this before at McKale. Cat fans started looking around in confusion almost saying "What the fuck is this about?" I now understand what other fans feel when "Bear Down" breaks out in their arenas. But I felt this just gave Cats fans more reason to loud and rowdy.

The Caleb Love shot will be remembered for decades. It will be added to all of their highlight videos.

Tobe was a fucking monster.

Carter Bryant is as smooth as they come.

No one has more heart and grit than KJ

Bradley was steady all night... and he had like 8 steals or something ridiculous like that?

Caleb..... his shot was off most of the night... but he brought it on both sides the court all game long.

Finally... post game walking back to our car...

Like I said... I've been to many big wins at McKale over my lifetime... but I've never witnessed the type of energy outside... post game... of the crowd piling out. It was fucking loud outside with everyone still in awe of what they witnessed.

It was the coolest game of any sport I've ever been to.

BTFD!!!!!

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:17 am**

Djcat wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:01 am
Only criticism is Tommy allowing Delly to start in the second half and letting him stay till the under 16 time out. Literally lost the lead and put us against our backs. It was clear to even the casual fans that Delly can’t guard any of the ISU players and add to the fact he was getting nothing on offense, a total liability. Not to mention his very suspect handles.

Tommy had KJ at the scorer's table about a minute into the 2nd half to sub in but there was no stoppage of play until that TO.

Trust me... Tommy wanted Delly out of the game much sooner

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:49 am**

Alieberman wrote:Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:17 am
Djcat wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:01 am
Only criticism is Tommy allowing Delly to start in the second half and letting him stay till the under 16 time out. Literally lost the lead and put us against our backs. It was clear to even the casual fans that Delly can’t guard any of the ISU players and add to the fact he was getting nothing on offense, a total liability. Not to mention his very suspect handles.
Tommy had KJ at the scorer's table about a minute into the 2nd half to sub in but there was no stoppage of play until that TO.

Trust me... Tommy wanted Delly out of the game much sooner

Delly is a key part of the eight-man rotation. He HAS to play time in EVERY game - as does EVERY other of those
8 men".

Last nite both Delly (13 minutes) and Henri (16 Minutes) were mostly overwhelmed by the size and strength of ISU; both sat for most of the second half.

We were lucky that the refs called the game loosely because none of the other six players fouled out, or were in significant fouls trouble. OTOH, allowing such physical play also likely contributed to both Delly's and Henri's problems.

Jaden (6) and KJ (3) combined for 9 turnovers; they also combined for 7/18 FG's. If it weren't for Delly and Caleb to whine about, the whiners would have certainly targeted them. Stupid fucking whiners!!

Arizona lost 4 starters from last year's team. Arizona switched to a new, more competitive conference with crappy travel. Arizona struggled to incorporate the new players into a 8-man rotation. The players and coaches have overcome lots of disappointment and adversity - the team lost it's expected starting center for the season. AND, YET,ARIZONA IS IN SECOND PLACE IN THE BIG-12 TODAY.

IMNSHO, his is pretty damn good, and it has been both challenging to stay with them, and interesting to see them work things out... BTFD!!!!, for sure!!

Yet in every game chat several "fans" criticize key players in that 8-man rotation like they were hostile, vindictive ASSU fans!!! Lst nite it was Delly & Caleb. It's also been Tobe, Henri and Trey oftentimes. Everyone of these guys are giving their all for this team, yet some want to dis them!!!

I just don't get it. I think it really sucks, and detracts from the enjoyment of this great resource.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:50 am**

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:09 am**

Alieberman wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:15 am As soon as we got into McKale last night and made our trek around to find our seats... something was different.... Everyone in white except many little pockets of yellow. I've been to many games at McKale... but I've never seen this many opposing fans. It was kind of shocking.

This shock continued as the game started going on. When Iowa St made a few good plays, you could hear people yelling, screaming and clapping. I have NEVER heard this before at McKale. Cat fans started looking around in confusion almost saying "What the fuck is this about?" I now understand what other fans feel when "Bear Down" breaks out in their arenas. But I felt this just gave Cats fans more reason to loud and rowdy.

You couldn’t hear it on TV because you guys drowned them out. Frascilla and Giambi talked about how many ISU fans there were but honestly you would have thought it was 100% Cat fans.

You all were LOUD. Maybe the loudest tip to whistle I’ve heard since the Aaron Gordon/TJ McConnell season. The roof sounded like it was about to come off. It was beautiful.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:22 am**

Chicat wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:09 am You all were LOUD. Maybe the loudest tip to whistle I’ve heard since the Aaron Gordon/TJ McConnell season. The roof sounded like it was about to come off. It was beautiful.

Someone posted this on FB.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:25 am**

pc in NM wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:49 am
Alieberman wrote:Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:17 am
Djcat wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:01 am
Only criticism is Tommy allowing Delly to start in the second half and letting him stay till the under 16 time out. Literally lost the lead and put us against our backs. It was clear to even the casual fans that Delly can’t guard any of the ISU players and add to the fact he was getting nothing on offense, a total liability. Not to mention his very suspect handles.
Tommy had KJ at the scorer's table about a minute into the 2nd half to sub in but there was no stoppage of play until that TO.

Trust me... Tommy wanted Delly out of the game much sooner
Delly is a key part of the eight-man rotation. He HAS to play time in EVERY game - as does EVERY other of those
8 men".

Last nite both Delly (13 minutes) and Henri (16 Minutes) were mostly overwhelmed by the size and strength of ISU; both sat for most of the second half.

We were lucky that the refs called the game loosely because none of the other six players fouled out, or were in significant fouls trouble. OTOH, allowing such physical play also likely contributed to both Delly's and Henri's problems.

Jaden (6) and KJ (3) combined for 9 turnovers; they also combined for 7/18 FG's. If it weren't for Delly and Caleb to whine about, the whiners would have certainly targeted them. Stupid fucking whiners!!

Arizona lost 4 starters from last year's team. Arizona switched to a new, more competitive conference with crappy travel. Arizona struggled to incorporate the new players into a 8-man rotation. The players and coaches have overcome lots of disappointment and adversity - the team lost it's expected starting center for the season. AND, YET,ARIZONA IS IN SECOND PLACE IN THE BIG-12 TODAY.

IMNSHO, his is pretty damn good, and it has been both challenging to stay with them, and interesting to see them work things out... BTFD!!!!, for sure!!

Yet in every game chat several "fans" criticize key players in that 8-man rotation like they were hostile, vindictive ASSU fans!!! Lst nite it was Delly & Caleb. It's also been Tobe, Henri and Trey oftentimes. Everyone of these guys are giving their all for this team, yet some want to dis them!!!

I just don't get it. I think it really sucks, and detracts from the enjoyment of this great resource.

Well we got lucky but I agree with every word you have said. These kids give their all to be part of this team. Don't make me go back and pull up childish comments that sound like a teenage girl that was disappointed in her prom date. Tobey sucks he can't play at this level. Delly is trash and the usual Caleb is a cancer. Henri is a soft Euro. Our coach can't really coach and is only winning because of Miller's players.
The most surprising thing to me is they come from long time posters who I thought were bigger than that. We were all disappointed in the start of the season but I trusted that our coach and our players would start to figure it out. Not that they would win every game but play hard and represent Ariz with pride. That is all I can really ask.
Our next loss the doubts will creep back in and the unjustified noise will be there. These are kids trying to figure it out. I do think our team is one that is on the edge every game and I just want to see if they can figure it out.
With all that being said. I have watched a lot of ASU games this year and they are not a pushover. It will take us playing well to beat them. Their freshman center I believe was rated number 1 in the country at his position. One of their guards can really shoot the ball. Saturday will be tough.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:26 am**

I don't know why everyone is shocked about the ISU fans. We are in the middle of snowbird season and people in the midwest love their college sports. I have an uncle in Nebraska that has a house in Lincoln just to go to games, especially football games. Small farming towns my relatives lived in would practically shut down for football games. Car traffic would be 10% of the norm.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:10 am**

Everyone talking about Love but the real MVP of that game for me was Awaka.

Guy is an absolute demon and unstoppable when allowed to play physical. He is 100% what we were hoping for when he transferred in, a hard nosed bruiser that will absolutely fuck you up if you piss him off.

Just perfect for the Big 12.

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