Official Bracketology Thread

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:22 pm

I think today's win secures our 4 seed. 3 still possible if we win out in Vegas

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:30 pm

Alieberman wrote:I think today's win secures our 4 seed. 3 still possible if we win out in Vegas

3 isn't possible, according to NYC's good arguments in this thread.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:32 pm

a 3 is absolutely possible still. but it is looking like we're pretty much assured a 4 seed now. a 5 is a longer shot if we lose tomorrow, a 3 is a slight possibility if we win the tournament.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:33 pm

win the regular season Pac12 Conf outright and the Pac12 Conf Tournament and AZ gets the 3 seed WEST Region

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:36 pm

If Arizona wins the tourney, a 3-seed also gives the committee an out on the problem of what to do with Arizona and Gonzaga. The NCAA doesn't want to ship either team, and the committee doesn't want to give either a 5-seed.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:40 pm

Longhorned wrote:If Arizona wins the tourney, a 3-seed also gives the committee an out on the problem of what to do with Arizona and Gonzaga. The NCAA doesn't want to ship either team, and the committee doesn't want to give either a 5-seed.

And it keeps them on either side of the West bracket as well. If AZ wins out, this will happen.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:40 pm

Longhorned wrote:If Arizona wins the tourney, a 3-seed also gives the committee an out on the problem of what to do with Arizona and Gonzaga. The NCAA doesn't want to ship either team, and the committee doesn't want to give either a 5-seed.

and sets up a potential fun elite 8 game for a trip to the final 4 between the two if they can upset their 1 and 2 seeds respectively.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:42 pm

Good analysis, guys

FWIW: potential remaining opponents for Zona...

Stanford - Q2
or
UCLA - Q1

and

Utah - Q1
or
USC - Q1

We could use a couple of Q1 wins...

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:42 pm

Still, I'd rather be a 4-seed against a 1-seed Kansas.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:46 pm

Longhorned wrote:Still, I'd rather be a 4-seed against a 1-seed Kansas.

i want a three seed WEST Region and have the Duke Blue Devils as the two seed in the bottom half --- please dear sweet baby Jesus

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:50 pm

UCLA, Utah & USC are possible quadrant 1 wins. But we currently have 3 so 2 more would put us at 5. Auburn currently has 7, Tennessee has 5 and is probably the only #3 seed Arizona could surpass. Tennessee not winning the sec tournament and Arizona winning the Pac 12 tournament probably gets Arizona the #3, since the last 10 games don't matter. Also Texas Tech, WVU winning the big 12 tournament could push Arizona out because they would have double the quadrant 1 wins.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:52 pm

97cats wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Still, I'd rather be a 4-seed against a 1-seed Kansas.
i want a three seed WEST Region and have the Duke Blue Devils as the two seed in the bottom half --- please dear sweet baby Jesus

Would the basketball gods ever be so kind, though? I'd trade in my Honda Fit for a Toyota Yaris if Duke's path could run through Arizona.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:59 pm

Longhorned wrote: Would the basketball gods ever be so kind, though? I'd trade in my Honda Fit for a Toyota Yaris if Duke's path could run through Arizona.

well the committee has a history of repeating the past, especially past years failure, especially as a higher seed.

Duke has never made the Final Four from the WEST Region, if they play their way into a protected seed, they will always be in the EAST or SOUTH, however when they are not protected they are almost always going to be sent WEST until they concur that feat.

If Duke is the unprotected two seed of the four, they will be in the WEST, and if Arizona wins out they will be the protected three seed in the WEST, so it very well could happen.

mix in that Duke has lost the last two times in the Sweet 16 in the WEST Region - to Oregon in 2016 and you guessed it, Arizona in 2011.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:03 pm

97cats wrote:
Longhorned wrote: Would the basketball gods ever be so kind, though? I'd trade in my Honda Fit for a Toyota Yaris if Duke's path could run through Arizona.
well the committee has a history of repeating the past, especially past years failure, especially as a higher seed.

Duke has never made the Final Four from the WEST Region, if they play their way into a protected seed, they will always be in the EAST or SOUTH, however when they are not protected they are almost always going to be sent WEST until they concur that feat.

If Duke is the unprotected two seed of the four, they will be in the WEST, and if Arizona wins out they will be the protected three seed in the WEST, so it very well could happen.

mix in that Duke has lost the last two times in the Sweet 16 in the WEST Region - to Oregon in 2016 and you guessed it, Arizona in 2011.

Duke being a 1 seed is probably their best shot at heading West. There is no natural West team so the West 1 will be the weakest 1 seed.

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:13 pm

TBH, I don't know how Kansas gets a #1 seed over Dook.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:19 pm

BBQ wildcat wrote:TBH, I don't know how Kansas gets a #1 seed over Dook.

The Big 12 is getting a lot of respect this year. I'm not necessarily sure it's deserved, but they are.

ProfessorFate · Post by **ProfessorFate** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:15 pm

So we win and drop to a 5 seed. Who do you work for, Lunardi?

jsbowl16 · Post by **jsbowl16** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:21 am

Seth Greenberg said last night that Duke can get a one seed because Xavier and Villanova will beat each other. Does he realize that both Duke and Virginia cant win the ACC tournament?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:39 am

jsbowl16 wrote:Seth Greenberg said last night that Duke can get a one seed because Xavier and Villanova will beat each other. Does he realize that both Duke and Virginia cant win the ACC tournament?

If Virginia beats Clemson today and reaches the conference finals they are a lock for a 1 seed regardless of what happens in that game. Frankly I still think they're a 1 seed if they lose tonight.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:50 am

What AZ fans should root for today:

SMU over Cinci
Alabama over Auburn
Temple over Wichita St
Miss St over Tennessee
Virginia over Clemson
Duke over North Carolina
West Virginia over Texas Tech

And of course:

Arizona over UCLA

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:16 am

UVA is a lock for a 1. Winner of Nova/Xavier is too.

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:38 am

I think the loser of the Duke/North Carolina game should be a No. 1 Seed also. That would at least make sense in understanding Bracketology for me.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:40 am

I'll take a 4 seed in Xavier's region if they indeed get a 1 seed.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:26 pm

Keep an eye on this Bama / Auburn game....

Go Bama!

prh · Post by **prh** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:41 pm

Alieberman wrote:Keep an eye on this Bama / Auburn game....

Go Bama!

That game has really turned since the early going

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:53 pm

What websites are streaming for free? CBS? ESPN?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:54 pm

Surprisingly pac 12 got through work firewall.

AZ2000 · Post by **AZ2000** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:56 pm

Auburn is tiny. Would love to be in a region with them as the 2 or 3.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:01 pm

When selection committee announced top 16

Auburn was a #2
Arizona was a #4.

Records since that announcement:

Arizona (5-1)
Auburn (3-4) including losses to South Carolina and Arkansas

Everyone has Auburn ahead of us but this loss should propel us in front of them... if we finish up this Vegas trip with W's.

This was big for our chances at a #3.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:02 pm

Whose up next?

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:12 pm

There's just very little wiggle room to move up. There's only one spot left.

1: Villanova, Virginia, Kansas, Xavier
2: Duke, North Carolina, Purdue, Cincinnati
3: Michigan State, Michigan, Auburn, ____

Auburn with 7 Q1 wins is pretty much locked in at #3. Conference reg season/tournament titles won't move the needle as much as 2 Q1 wins vs USC/UCLA will. Just look at UNC who has 9 losses and won't win either title but is a #2 seed lock or Michigan State who has 4 total loses, a reg season conference title but only has 2 Q1 wins so they get a #3 seed. Arizona currently has 3 Q1 wins, adding 2 this weekend could push us over Tennessee or Texas Tech.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:16 pm

win the regular season Pac12 Conf outright and the Pac12 Conf Tournament and AZ gets the 3 seed WEST Region

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:31 pm

97cats wrote:win the regular season Pac12 Conf outright and the Pac12 Conf Tournament and AZ gets the 3 seed WEST Region

I feel like this is right. I think losing tonight means we worry about a 5, and the default middle is a 4.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:02 pm

Guys, one game at a time. If you lose your focus, the team will forget what time they're playing and show up late in trousers.

Post by **UAdevil** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:41 pm

Longhorned wrote:Guys, one game at a time. If you lose your focus, the team will forget what time they're playing and show up late in trousers.

Yep, grab your balls and Bear Down hard or the team will be ill prepared.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:45 pm

My only request is if the committee is going to take in consideration the fact that Notre Dame has Colston and Farrell back then please look at the fact that Arizona only has 3 losses when we have our rightful starting 5.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:04 pm

Fuck that Bahamas trip.

Between that disaster and Barcelona, we should never leave the U.S. again.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:56 pm

Xavier just gave away it's #1 seed

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:48 pm

Chicat wrote:Fuck that Bahamas trip.

Between that disaster and Barcelona, we should never leave the U.S. again.

Just be happy you didn't save up for 2 years to go and witness it in person....

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:48 pm

Gilbertcat wrote:
Chicat wrote:Fuck that Bahamas trip.

Between that disaster and Barcelona, we should never leave the U.S. again.
Just be happy you didn't save up for 2 years to go and witness it in person....

Thoughts & prayers GC.

jsbowl16 · Post by **jsbowl16** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:48 pm

I guess nobody wants the last one seed.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:49 pm

it'll be villanova, virginia, north carolina and kansas as the 1s. 2s will be purdue, cinci, duke and xavier.

jsbowl16 · Post by **jsbowl16** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:52 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:it'll be villanova, virginia, north carolina and kansas as the 1s. 2s will be purdue, cinci, duke and xavier.

Loser of Carolina Virginia going west?

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:53 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:it'll be villanova, virginia, north carolina and kansas as the 1s. 2s will be purdue, cinci, duke and xavier.

I am sorry but unc as 1 seed is fucking insane! They have 9 losses! We should be a 1 or 2 then!

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:55 pm

It could be Tennessee with the last #1 if they win the SEC.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:59 pm

Alieberman wrote:It could be Tennessee with the last #1 if they win the SEC.

I don't think I can stomach that.

jsbowl16 · Post by **jsbowl16** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:59 pm

Lunardi has the same four one seeds he did before today.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:01 pm

3goggles wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:it'll be villanova, virginia, north carolina and kansas as the 1s. 2s will be purdue, cinci, duke and xavier.
I am sorry but unc as 1 seed is fucking insane! They have 9 losses! We should be a 1 or 2 then!

i agree, but before tonight the national bracket consensus had them as the #2 rated 2 seed. 2 of the 3 teams ahead of them (duke and xavier) lost. if you go off of how a good 40 national brackets have them listed going into today...they are by default a 1 seed now.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:04 pm

NYCat wrote:There's just very little wiggle room to move up. There's only one spot left.

1: Villanova, Virginia, Kansas, Xavier
2: Duke, North Carolina, Purdue, Cincinnati
3: Michigan State, Michigan, Auburn, ____

Auburn with 7 Q1 wins is pretty much locked in at #3. Conference reg season/tournament titles won't move the needle as much as 2 Q1 wins vs USC/UCLA will. Just look at UNC who has 9 losses and won't win either title but is a #2 seed lock or Michigan State who has 4 total loses, a reg season conference title but only has 2 Q1 wins so they get a #3 seed. Arizona currently has 3 Q1 wins, adding 2 this weekend could push us over Tennessee or Texas Tech.

Texas Tech just lost. That was very good for us. But I think Tennessee is surely ahead of us.

But I do have us over Auburn if we win tomorrow night.... making us team #12.... #3 in the West

We do not want West Virginia beating Kansas though... that would screw everything up

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:05 pm

Was it after Arizona beat UCLA tonight that Lunardi moved Arizona from a 4-seed to a 5-seed? Playing Texas Tech as the 4-seed and Virgina as the #1 seed overall?

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