Bear Down Wildcats

I thought he wore a Washington jersey and he had one that was 1/2 AZ 1/2 Udub.
When and why would he have an asu Jersey on?

Jefe wrote:Feels like Book 2.0. Hope Im wrong

This would actually be a really good thing

Book was a good cop to Miller. Miller's coaching the plays and then Book comforting the players is what got them to perform their best. Book without the bullshit would be great.

Postmaster wrote:I thought he wore a Washington jersey and he had one that was 1/2 AZ 1/2 Udub.
When and why would he have an asu Jersey on?

Jefe wrote:https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us ... SJfsWcF5YM

What the hell?

Well that’s a load of crap.

Jefe wrote:This hire feels like Miller trying to get fans back on his side rather than whats best for the program. AZ is a stepping stone yet again

I'm not sure there was a better hire that could be made that would be "best for the program." The sole requirements of this hire was that it had to be an African-American (check) with an ability to recruit at a high level (remains to be seen, but has already got our foot in the door with Seattle guys that didn't exist prior). The fact that it's an alum certainly doesn't hurt and obviously it builds goodwill with the fanbase much like the hire of Murphy rebuilt the goodwill with the basketball alums.

I'm not sure what you mean by calling AZ a stepping stone by hiring Jet? Help me out there.

I think too much stock is put into assistant coaches...

I like the hire for all the reasons that Choo stated, but if you look at the history of Miller, I'm not sure the assistant coaches have made that much of a difference.

ChooChooCat wrote:The sole requirements of this hire was that it had to be an African-American (check)

What? Why?

ChooChooCat wrote:I'm not sure what you mean by calling AZ a stepping stone by hiring Jet? Help me out there.

He's gone as soon as a head coaching gig opens up. Maybe 2 years? Is anyone keeping track of how many we have lost? We're the Kentucky of coaches leaving early.

We need more Romar's on our staff

Jefe wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:The sole requirements of this hire was that it had to be an African-American (check)

What? Why?

ChooChooCat wrote:I'm not sure what you mean by calling AZ a stepping stone by hiring Jet? Help me out there.

He's gone as soon as a head coaching gig opens up. Maybe 2 years? Is anyone keeping track of how many we have lost? We're the Kentucky of coaches leaving early.

We need more Romar's on our staff

So we’re a pit stop because he will be here for 2 years? But we need more Romars...who was here 1 year? What’s your argument again?

Jefe wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:The sole requirements of this hire was that it had to be an African-American (check)

What? Why?

This is basketball where roughly 90% of all your players in a 10 year period are African-American. You can't have a staff of all white guys. Hell even if it wasn't basketball you need some diversity.

Jefe wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:I'm not sure what you mean by calling AZ a stepping stone by hiring Jet? Help me out there.

He's gone as soon as a head coaching gig opens up. Maybe 2 years? Is anyone keeping track of how many we have lost? We're the Kentucky of coaches leaving early.

We need more Romar's on our staff

Ummm what is wrong with that? If Jet gets a head coaching opportunity he should take it. I doubt he would in two years as an assistant though as he doesn't have the coaching resume. Any coach who gets a promotion that Arizona can't give them should take it 100 times out of 100 like Justin Gainey just did.

I think JT gets a shot at a HC gig within 2 years. He was in the running for a pretty decent one (lost out to another former player) before he took the job. He has a ton of connections in basketball at all levels and once he establishes a little bona fide... doors will open.

In the meantime I think he is going to do a tremendous job for CSM and UofA. Hope he stays more than just a year or two. I think if he ends up staying 3 years we will be in a FF. As JT said, the job isn't finished until it is done (paraphrased).

That is so great and makes you feel so proud. Hard to find those feelings in r eryday life that last few months do it’s nice to immerse oneself into the history of our stories program.
And man, when JT talks about winning another ship, you just believe him.

JT over load

Merkin wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:53 am

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Merkin wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:53 am

One foot out the door this whole offseason.

So now we have two assistant coaching spots open - supposedly Fois from Phoenix targeted for one (not sure what is holding that up if its still on the table).

Recruiting is hard with only two coaches on the bench. Hopefully Lloyd has an established recruiting assistant in mind already.

Does Jason Gardner's DUI prevent him from becoming an asst coach? Did he recruit well at IUPUI or Memphis? Who else is on the radar?

Was actually really happy JT was expected back. We need to maintain a connection to the Olson era and our "proud tradition," imo.

Oh well.

84Cat wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:17 pm Does Jason Gardner's DUI prevent him from becoming an asst coach? Did he recruit well at IUPUI or Memphis? Who else is on the radar?

No, but also no and no.

Someone with actual info can chime in on who is on the radar (or who should be), but again someone with good US recruiting ties seems like the bet (and given the rest of the coaching staff is white, probably a black man with US recruiting ties would be best).

Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:19 pm Was actually really happy JT was expected back. We need to maintain a connection to the Olson era and our "proud tradition," imo.

Oh well.

Gardner has the Alumni connection responsibility in his job description, so we have a strong connection still on staff.

wonder if miles would come back? doubtful considering his seat on the lakers bench though..

Really hoping for someone who has some connections to AAU to help Tommy with his recruiting struggles that I see. I hear Book is unemployed.

What happened to the Mavericks job?

Makes me feel like he isn’t happy here if his going to an expansion Gatorade League team.

Postmaster wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:09 pm What happened to the Mavericks job?

Makes me feel like he isn’t happy here if his going to an expansion Gatorade League team.

Mav's job went to a former LA Sparks WNBA player. And it seems like Terry is dead set on getting into the NBA coaching circle, so he's taking what is available.

He and Lloyd never seemed like much of a fit anyways.

I figured they’d have some sort of Washington connection.

But I got the money impression JT wasn’t happy with how the coaching change went down.

YoDeFoe wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:15 pm

Postmaster wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:09 pm What happened to the Mavericks job?

Makes me feel like he isn’t happy here if his going to an expansion Gatorade League team.

Mav's job went to a former LA Sparks WNBA player. And it seems like Terry is dead set on getting into the NBA coaching circle, so he's taking what is available.

He and Lloyd never seemed like much of a fit anyways.

From the buzz last year, it seemed like he was looking at college until the change.

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:15 pm

YoDeFoe wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:15 pm

Postmaster wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:09 pm What happened to the Mavericks job?

Makes me feel like he isn’t happy here if his going to an expansion Gatorade League team.

Mav's job went to a former LA Sparks WNBA player. And it seems like Terry is dead set on getting into the NBA coaching circle, so he's taking what is available.

He and Lloyd never seemed like much of a fit anyways.

From the buzz last year, it seemed like he was looking at college until the change.

Yeah, I get the impression if Miller wasn't railroaded by our incompetent administration, Terry would have stuck around for a few years.

CopaCat wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:40 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:15 pm

YoDeFoe wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:15 pm

Postmaster wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:09 pm What happened to the Mavericks job?

Makes me feel like he isn’t happy here if his going to an expansion Gatorade League team.

Mav's job went to a former LA Sparks WNBA player. And it seems like Terry is dead set on getting into the NBA coaching circle, so he's taking what is available.

He and Lloyd never seemed like much of a fit anyways.

From the buzz last year, it seemed like he was looking at college until the change.

Yeah, I get the impression if Miller wasn't railroaded by our incompetent administration, Terry would have stuck around for a few years.

Nah.

Choo,
You don’t think he would have stayed this year if Miller was retained?

I am OK with the Jet taking off. We need some hard core recruiters on this staff. Not sure if Gardner is that guy and I like him in the position he is in.

One oddity to me is I think we have had a bench coach position open for awhile and I wonder why we haven’t filled that?

azcat49 wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:09 pm One oddity to me is I think we have had a bench coach position open for awhile and I wonder why we haven’t filled that?

Maybe it's being vacated this season preemptively due to the NOA. You know, just to be safe.

mofo wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:50 pm

azcat49 wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:09 pm One oddity to me is I think we have had a bench coach position open for awhile and I wonder why we haven’t filled that?

Maybe it's being vacated this season preemptively due to the NOA. You know, just to be safe.

Don't give Heeke and Bobby any ideas.

Good for JET. He shouldn't be expected to want to endure the $h!tshow that the inexperienced and unqualified UofA basketball coaching staff and a patchwork team are about to present to the fans. Congrats Lloyd groupies...now alumni are turning their backs to the program. It's just a matter of time before JG makes a run for it too.

So, who do we get to replace him?

what about Ray Bolger?

Boris Karloff?

‘Cause this could be scary.

azgreg wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:05 pm So, who do we get to replace him?

We have a hall of fame assistant on staff already. The solution is obvious.

Postmaster wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:00 pm Choo,
You don’t think he would have stayed this year if Miller was retained?

As long as he had the opportunities in that universe that he had in this one, No.

ChooChooCat wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:58 am

Postmaster wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:00 pm Choo,
You don’t think he would have stayed this year if Miller was retained?

As long as he had the opportunities in that universe that he had in this one, No.

I’ve heard different.

From a fairly good friend of Terry’s: the hope was that after being exonerated or not severely punished by the IARP that Miller would move on of his own accord and that Jet would be the coach-in-waiting.

The way Lloyd is recruiting that still may happen LOL. At least now the Jet would have a few years of head coaching experience.

Chicat wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:14 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:58 am

Postmaster wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:00 pm Choo,
You don’t think he would have stayed this year if Miller was retained?

As long as he had the opportunities in that universe that he had in this one, No.

I’ve heard different.

From a fairly good friend of Terry’s: the hope was that after being exonerated or not severely punished by the IARP that Miller would move on of his own accord and that Jet would be the coach-in-waiting.

If he truly thought that was a realistic option with this administration he was either ridiculously stupid or naive or both.

azcat49 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:23 pm The way Lloyd is recruiting that still may happen LOL. At least now the Jet would have a few years of head coaching experience.

What if I told you the recruiting at the moment isn’t nearly as bad as you believe it is?

ChooChooCat wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:05 pm

azcat49 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:23 pm The way Lloyd is recruiting that still may happen LOL. At least now the Jet would have a few years of head coaching experience.

What if I told you the recruiting at the moment isn’t nearly as bad as you believe it is?

We would like to know this is true

Choo, if you say it, I believe it! Glad to hear and will await further info from you!!!!

ChooChooCat wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:05 pm

azcat49 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:23 pm The way Lloyd is recruiting that still may happen LOL. At least now the Jet would have a few years of head coaching experience.

What if I told you the recruiting at the moment isn’t nearly as bad as you believe it is?

No positive vibes allowed.

I never got the idea that the recruiting was bad.

CTL came in this off-season late and tried to get a few guys at the 25th hour. we didn’t end up landing either and everyone flipped their shit. He’s got us ending up on few lists of highly sought after players. Gotta prove some stuff through the season and then the dominos will fall as they may.

I’m looking forward to future classes and what he can do after putting a product on the court, and getting a full/normal offseason to put in work.

ChooChooCat wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:05 pm

azcat49 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:23 pm The way Lloyd is recruiting that still may happen LOL. At least now the Jet would have a few years of head coaching experience.

What if I told you the recruiting at the moment isn’t nearly as bad as you believe it is?

ChooChooCat wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:52 pm

Chicat wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:14 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:58 am

Postmaster wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:00 pm Choo,
You don’t think he would have stayed this year if Miller was retained?

As long as he had the opportunities in that universe that he had in this one, No.

I’ve heard different.

From a fairly good friend of Terry’s: the hope was that after being exonerated or not severely punished by the IARP that Miller would move on of his own accord and that Jet would be the coach-in-waiting.

If he truly thought that was a realistic option with this administration he was either ridiculously stupid or naive or both.

I think the idea was they’d outlast the current administration.