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Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:43 pm
by azgreg
Sorry, wrong thread.

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:44 pm
by UAEebs86
Charlie Ragle LOL. C'mon Justin.

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:45 pm
by NickyBCats
UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:42 pm Mmmmmm.... who has Premium at Rivals?


Humberto Lopez

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:47 pm
by UAEebs86
NickyBCats wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:45 pm
UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:42 pm Mmmmmm.... who has Premium at Rivals?



Humberto Lopez

This guy?:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/humberto-s-lopez-82b15580/

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:56 pm
by EastCoastCat
So glad that Sumlin is finally gone. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Get one of those young coaches from the MAC. They know know how to win with less and their teams are always competitive it seems.

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:34 pm
by azgreg

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:34 pm
by UAEebs86
Alieberman wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:06 am How many million has Sumlin earned per win?

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:03 pm
by azgreg

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:05 pm
by BBQ wildcat
Someone said put him at a desk. I agree. Make him come to work, every day, 8 to 5. Give him a desk and chair, but nothing else. Let him sit until his contract runs out or we break even where payout = remaining salary. Even then, I would make him sit there every day until the end of his contract.

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:42 pm
by prh
BBQ wildcat wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:05 pm Someone said put him at a desk. I agree. Make him come to work, every day, 8 to 5. Give him a desk and chair, but nothing else. Let him sit until his contract runs out or we break even where payout = remaining salary. Even then, I would make him sit there every day until the end of his contract.
Haha thank you, I was bummed my suggestion got lost in the shuffle. But yeah I want him to suffer. None of this bullshit of being a fired coach living on that buyout. Make him hate life so much that he actually contemplates leaving on his own accord. He's got enough money, does he really want to sit at a desk killing his soul just for a couple more million?

Makes me think of that Office episode where Jim sticks Ryan in the closet. Do that. Literally do exactly that. I'm sure there's somewhere in McKale suitable.

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:57 pm
by IrishAzCat
They should make him watch that final game every day for 8 hours like that scene in A Clockwork Orange:
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Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:36 am
by Merkin
BBQ wildcat wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:05 pm Someone said put him at a desk. I agree. Make him come to work, every day, 8 to 5. Give him a desk and chair, but nothing else. Let him sit until his contract runs out or we break even where payout = remaining salary. Even then, I would make him sit there every day until the end of his contract.
I forgot what coach and what sport it was, but he was made a fund raiser. Just keep Sumlin on the horn all day schmoozing with possible donors, and keep him away from the bottle.

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:51 am
by Carcassdragger
I think he's probably a basically good guy. Wish him the best and sorry for us and him it didn't work out here.

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:45 pm
by prh
Merkin wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:36 am
BBQ wildcat wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:05 pm Someone said put him at a desk. I agree. Make him come to work, every day, 8 to 5. Give him a desk and chair, but nothing else. Let him sit until his contract runs out or we break even where payout = remaining salary. Even then, I would make him sit there every day until the end of his contract.
I forgot what coach and what sport it was, but he was made a fund raiser. Just keep Sumlin on the horn all day schmoozing with possible donors, and keep him away from the bottle.
Are you thinking from Arizona? Immediate example that comes to mind is Mike Bellotti at Oregon, their boosters wanted Chip Kelly, so they forced him into being the AD for a year before he left for television.

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:33 am
by Chicat
Was Sumlin’s buyout paid for by a booster? That was the impression I had, but this article and the quote from Heeke makes it sound like it’s coming out of the AD budget... which is a truly awful look in this year of pandemic-related layoffs and cutbacks.


https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3930808001 ... ssion=true
The University of Arizona athletic department announced some troubling news last month in Tucson.

Because of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Wildcats said they faced $45 million in losses and were forced to make job cuts, including 21 layoffs.

Athletic director Dave Heeke called it “a difficult day of very tough decisions.”

“These challenging economic times have affected all of us,” Heeke said then.

Less than six weeks later, the Wildcats didn’t seem quite as broke. After his football team lost its 12th consecutive game dating to 2019, Heeke fired coach Kevin Sumlin and put Arizona on the hook to pay Sumlin $7.3 million to buy out his contract, half of which is due to Sumlin within 30 days of his termination.
Arizona fired Sumlin after he went 9-20 in three seasons. Asked how his buyout costs square with the financial challenges there, Arizona athletics referred USA TODAY Sports to a statement that said the university will honor Sumlin’s contract “including all buyout provisions, with funding from athletics-generated revenue and sources.”

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:44 am
by DrWildcat
Chicat wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:33 am Was Sumlin’s buyout paid for by a booster? That was the impression I had, but this article and the quote from Heeke makes it sound like it’s coming out of the AD budget... which is a truly awful look in this year of pandemic-related layoffs and cutbacks.


https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3930808001 ... ssion=true
The University of Arizona athletic department announced some troubling news last month in Tucson.

Because of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Wildcats said they faced $45 million in losses and were forced to make job cuts, including 21 layoffs.

Athletic director Dave Heeke called it “a difficult day of very tough decisions.”

“These challenging economic times have affected all of us,” Heeke said then.

Less than six weeks later, the Wildcats didn’t seem quite as broke. After his football team lost its 12th consecutive game dating to 2019, Heeke fired coach Kevin Sumlin and put Arizona on the hook to pay Sumlin $7.3 million to buy out his contract, half of which is due to Sumlin within 30 days of his termination.
Arizona fired Sumlin after he went 9-20 in three seasons. Asked how his buyout costs square with the financial challenges there, Arizona athletics referred USA TODAY Sports to a statement that said the university will honor Sumlin’s contract “including all buyout provisions, with funding from athletics-generated revenue and sources.”
Pretty sure a booster paid a lot of it. Probably goes as a "gift" to the athletic department which they then flip to pay the buyout.

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:20 am
by Chicat
The fact that we are the poster child in this article for athletic departments that cry poverty when laying people off and then turn around and pay a coach millions to go away is a downright goddamn travesty.

I want to blame Heeke and his staff but I’m not 100% sure what the alternative messaging is that would have stopped us from being the lede here. If we just outright said “a booster is paying this” I can’t be sure the question isn’t then asked, “how come you didn’t get a booster to pitch in to stop the layoffs?”

Anyway, I’m sick and tired of being the media’s whipping boy. Auburn paid 3x what we did to fire Malzahn and yet the first fucking words in this article are “The University of Arizona”.

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:28 am
by Alieberman
Who the hell are these boosters that in such a time of unprecedented unemployment and record amount of people who are currently food insecure in this country, they are donating millions of dollars to pay off a horrible fired coach?

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:40 am
by scumdevils86
Because the rich only care about themselves and their interests. Poor people and hunger are boring and gross.

Re: Fire Sumlin

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:40 am
by dovecanyoncat
Alieberman wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:28 am Who the hell are these boosters that in such a time of unprecedented unemployment and record amount of people who are currently food insecure in this country, they are donating millions of dollars to pay off a horrible fired coach?
The pandemic has grossly exacerbated wealth inequality in America; it's repugnant, and this is just one example.