2024-25 Arizona Basketball

[Winger]

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I think he said over at Scheer's site a while back that he heard Nike didn't have the money for Arizona when this came up for renewal. Obviously something changed.

Dont think so. I have never heard that from anyone. I have definitely posted in the past that I was tired of Nike doing us dirty when it came to uniforms and was pissed that we weren’t Jumpman. Imo both football and hoops kits were trash for nearly 2 decades.

Must have been a different poster. I definitely remember someone posting that at WA. I'm not a paying customer over there anymore.

Your sense that I was anti-Nike is definitely accurate I just dont ever remember anyone telling me that and it feels like a strange opinion to come up with on my own. I dont post there anymore either ftr. Glad we got a deal done but shoot for a brief time in history Scott’s new deal for the Pac was the best on the planet as well lol so its TBD for me. Maybe it will be a better relationship now that we arent in the same conference with Oregon.

The current Nike Replica ‘97 shorts are fantastic and high quality.

Would another brand be able to make those, had we signed with them?

Looking forward to our team wearing the rare Kobe 8s that I can’t buy.

Agree, but how many years in the abyss before Nike bestowed those upon us? 12? 15?

How about that heinous gradient/hombre/stripes crap? And, while other teams get cool off-label coloring for special kits Nike hits us with that shit that comes out of your vacuum cleaner grey?

FOR OUR REGULAR HOME WHITES! Shit that comes out of your vacuum cleaner! You know that was a Phil Knight special. No other explanation makes sense.

For football we had numbers you couldn’t see plus wacko fonts and they minimized the A on the side of the helmets. Plus those heinous cherry red metallic helmets and the gradient mess.

Currently, the hoops coaches gear is so pathetic EMOY has to iron on Arizona logo’d patches to make it look legit.

And our beautiful Tucson National fairway grass football field was replaced with astroturf and rubber pebbles!

Ok, no wait, sorry. That was Rich Rod not Nike.

[PHXCATS]

Big 12 court is so ugly and low rent

Court looks way shittier on TV than I was expecting

And low rent gimmick with Shaq doing a DJ set

[azgreg]

I actually agree with machina here. If you need me I'll be in the shower.

[Beachcat97]

So if we actually pull of the upset at Allen Fieldhouse this weekend, what are we thinking our ceiling for NCAA tourney seed is?

[PHXCATS]

The court is so bad. It gers worse and worse every clip I see

Holy shit

[Postmaster]

Dont think so. I have never heard that from anyone. I have definitely posted in the past that I was tired of Nike doing us dirty when it came to uniforms and was pissed that we weren’t Jumpman. Imo both football and hoops kits were trash for nearly 2 decades.

Must have been a different poster. I definitely remember someone posting that at WA. I'm not a paying customer over there anymore.

Your sense that I was anti-Nike is definitely accurate I just dont ever remember anyone telling me that and it feels like a strange opinion to come up with on my own. I dont post there anymore either ftr. Glad we got a deal done but shoot for a brief time in history Scott’s new deal for the Pac was the best on the planet as well lol so its TBD for me. Maybe it will be a better relationship now that we arent in the same conference with Oregon.

The current Nike Replica ‘97 shorts are fantastic and high quality.

Would another brand be able to make those, had we signed with them?

Looking forward to our team wearing the rare Kobe 8s that I can’t buy.

Agree, but how many years in the abyss before Nike bestowed those upon us? 12? 15?

How about that heinous gradient/hombre/stripes crap? And, while other teams get cool off-label coloring for special kits Nike hits us with that shit that comes out of your vacuum cleaner grey?

FOR OUR REGULAR HOME WHITES! Shit that comes out of your vacuum cleaner! You know that was a Phil Knight special. No other explanation makes sense.

For football we had numbers you couldn’t see plus wacko fonts and they minimized the A on the side of the helmets. Plus those heinous cherry red metallic helmets and the gradient mess.

Currently, the hoops coaches gear is so pathetic EMOY has to iron on Arizona logo’d patches to make it look legit.

And our beautiful Tucson National fairway grass football field was replaced with astroturf and rubber pebbles!

Ok, no wait, sorry. That was Rich Rod not Nike.

What do you think of the new (2024) baseball jerseys?
They make me think of Francona playing for the Expos. But I kinda like them.

[Winger]

Must have been a different poster. I definitely remember someone posting that at WA. I'm not a paying customer over there anymore.

Your sense that I was anti-Nike is definitely accurate I just dont ever remember anyone telling me that and it feels like a strange opinion to come up with on my own. I dont post there anymore either ftr. Glad we got a deal done but shoot for a brief time in history Scott’s new deal for the Pac was the best on the planet as well lol so its TBD for me. Maybe it will be a better relationship now that we arent in the same conference with Oregon.

The current Nike Replica ‘97 shorts are fantastic and high quality.

Would another brand be able to make those, had we signed with them?

Looking forward to our team wearing the rare Kobe 8s that I can’t buy.

Agree, but how many years in the abyss before Nike bestowed those upon us? 12? 15?

How about that heinous gradient/hombre/stripes crap? And, while other teams get cool off-label coloring for special kits Nike hits us with that shit that comes out of your vacuum cleaner grey?

FOR OUR REGULAR HOME WHITES! Shit that comes out of your vacuum cleaner! You know that was a Phil Knight special. No other explanation makes sense.

For football we had numbers you couldn’t see plus wacko fonts and they minimized the A on the side of the helmets. Plus those heinous cherry red metallic helmets and the gradient mess.

Currently, the hoops coaches gear is so pathetic EMOY has to iron on Arizona logo’d patches to make it look legit.

And our beautiful Tucson National fairway grass football field was replaced with astroturf and rubber pebbles!

Ok, no wait, sorry. That was Rich Rod not Nike.

What do you think of the new (2024) baseball jerseys?
They make me think of Francona playing for the Expos. But I kinda like them.

Have not seen yet. Unless they are the baby blue ones? But the singular exception to the Nike screwjob has been our baseball uniforms. Consistently great imo and I love the pinstripe version.

[g32knights]

This year feels like a minimal expectation year for the tournament. I don't see this team going far with a complete lack of outside shooting. If Caleb gets hot that obviously helps, but more than likely he'll have his 1/9 from three game and they'll be done early, but hopefully i'm wrong.

[Merkin]

This year feels like a minimal expectation year for the tournament. I don't see this team going far with a complete lack of outside shooting. If Caleb gets hot that obviously helps, but more than likely he'll have his 1/9 from three game and they'll be done early, but hopefully i'm wrong.

I don't think there is a single person alive that disagrees with you, including Tommy Lloyd. He had said multiple times that it's all about Caleb.

Assuming 35% 3 point shooting is average, I went and looked how many times this season Love had 2 average+ games in a row.



Last season he had some 3 game average+ streaks.




and his final season at UNC, and why Tarheel fans were not sad to see him go.




ADO was brought in to help with 3 point shooting, but in the last 11 games he has goose eggs 7 times, and 1 3PT 3 times.

[TheCat]

I think ADO is a really good shooter but does not have the skill set yet to generate his own shot especially against teams with athletic guards.

[AzCatFan2]

The BIG12 Tournament court. Are they supposed to be playing basketball or Q-Bert? I can't tell.

[Merkin]

Also wanted to add that Townsend was never expected to get so many minutes. Lloyd had planned on using Veesaar occasionally as a stretch 4 alongside Krivas. Bryant is going to be a great player here or elsewhere, but he is such a foul machine now.

I think ADO is a really good shooter but does not have the skill set yet to generate his own shot especially against teams with athletic guards.

He just needs to work on lateral quickness in the offseason. I know he will never be an elite defender, but it can be done where he isn't such a liability on defense. Trying to find some players that were able to get better lateral quickness, and Kevin Love came up.

Just so hard to find a Salim like shooter that can create his own shot.

[TheCat]

Salim on this team would be unbelievable with kickout 3's after offensive rebounds.

[MrKyle]

Also wanted to add that Townsend was never expected to get so many minutes. Lloyd had planned on using Veesaar occasionally as a stretch 4 alongside Krivas. Bryant is going to be a great player here or elsewhere, but he is such a foul machine now.

I think the fact he is fouling so much is causing him to ratchet down his defense as well, seems like he is getting beat quite a bit the past few games. Maybe a bit gun shy of being whistled too much and having to ride the bench.

[TheCat]

Carter has not been a great defender all year but has a knack for rebounding. I think that is more experience than it is being gun shy.

[VegasCatFan]

Also wanted to add that Townsend was never expected to get so many minutes. Lloyd had planned on using Veesaar occasionally as a stretch 4 alongside Krivas. Bryant is going to be a great player here or elsewhere, but he is such a foul machine now.

I think the fact he is fouling so much is causing him to ratchet down his defense as well, seems like he is getting beat quite a bit the past few games. Maybe a bit gun shy of being whistled too much and having to ride the bench.

He reaches way too much and makes contact when he does. If he just used his athletic ability and played positional defense instead of reaching and trying for the steal all the time, he'd be much better off.

[Merkin]

Like Lute has said, and probably every coach, the hardest thing about bringing in these high school stars is that very few of them know how to defend. Since they are the star on their team, their coaches try to protect them from fouling out.

Bryant even said himself that after the first couple weeks of practice he realized how truly far behind he was compared to the other players and understood why he wasn't playing.

[dirtbags]

The BIG12 Tournament court. Are they supposed to be playing basketball or Q-Bert? I can't tell.

bobby will love it

[Postmaster]

Like Lute has said, and probably every coach, the hardest thing about bringing in these high school stars is that very few of them know how to defend. Since they are the star on their team, their coaches try to protect them from fouling out.

Bryant even said himself that after the first couple weeks of practice he realized how truly far behind he was compared to the other players and understood why he wasn't playing.

Ah
I didn't realize defense was a priority.

[84Cat]

From Scheer:

Kansas is favored by 2.5 over Arizona

The Kansas Jayhawks haven't lost on Senior Day since the 1982-83 season.

[PHXCATS]

Lets see if Yormark is 1/100th what people made him out to be. If he is then he will get a new court for the men's tournament

I have not seen one positive thing about the court and seen hundreds of complaints

[Postmaster]

Not sure why one would waste $100k on a new court.

Auction the ugly this summer

[Chicat]

Why? What is the profound logic in a conference tournament like this? As a lower seed, why even bother showing up? I get protecting the higher seeds, but there's no need to protect any seed below the top 5-6. LOL

On a lighter note, maybe they should rename the conference to the "Flying V" conference.

yeah, that's a wild format. i wonder if they're trying to make it easier for fans to travel-in for the games and to optimize ticket sales, since it's a smaller arena. imagine one of the low seeds going on a run, though, and having to extend your trip by up to five days as a fan. unlikely, but the sun belt conference does have a lot of parity!

Just think about what an ultimate heater you’d be on if you won 7 games in a row. As a fan, I’d have a hard on that could flip an 18-wheeler.

That would be Valvano NC State-ish.

Old Dominion (10 seed) has won 3 games in 3 nights.

Gotta win 3 more to make the Dance. Love the chaos so let’s go Monarchs!

[Winger]

The Kansas Jayhawks haven't lost on Senior Day since the 1982-83 season.

An amazing stat. In the same league as KU’s/Self’s 13 consecutive B12 conference titles.

Are we going to see the Arizona team that has mettle, values the ball, and plays defense today? Big game for Bradley. While, assisting the ball aside, Harris’ number do not leap off of the page, the dude is a legit PG and if the PG position plays out in similar fashion to the Houston game the Cats are in big time trouble. Easy to say Arizona goes as Love shoots, and that isn’t wrong, but Bradley feels as important today. Arizona holding down the 5/Dickinson is another.

For a game that technically means almost nothing it feels like it’s a big one in a bunch of ways.

[Alieberman]

Todays game will determine if enfuego emerges from his basement or not… so I say it’s a big game

[84Cat]

Kansas is now favored by 4.5

[UAdevil]

Let's try real hard to keep 'fuegs in his basement.

[UAEebs86]

Todays game will determine if enfuego emerges from his basement or not… so I say it’s a big game

'Cats win - enfuego still busy at work.

Kansas wins - his schedule suddenly opens up.

[dovecanyoncat]

Todays game will determine if enfuego emerges from his basement or not… so I say it’s a big game

'Cats win - enfuego still busy at work.

Kansas wins - his schedule suddenly opens up.

Kansas wins - the parental lock comes off his PC.

[dmjcat]

There is only 1 thing to do now.

Go Devils!!! Beat TTech.

Now if you will excuse me. I am going to pour a bottle of hand sanitizer on my head and crawl into the microwave.

[Postmaster]

Regardless off the next month, if Tommy is going to shrink his bench, he needs to get these guys on some sort of Kenyan marathon runner s/c program.

[PHXCATS]

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[Beachcat97]

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So stupid.

[UAEebs86]

The best part of the season was finishing 3 games ahead of Kansas in a league enfuego said we couldn't compete in, and that's without even getting to play them in McKale.

[Beachcat97]

The best part of the season was finishing 3 games ahead of Kansas in a league enfuego said we couldn't compete in, and that's without even getting to play them in McKale.

Years from now, will you remember this? Or how we did in the tourney? Because I'm pretty sure it's the latter.

We've had reg season success for ages. Haven't been to a FF in nearly a quarter century.

[Merkin]

The best part of the season was finishing 3 games ahead of Kansas in a league enfuego said we couldn't compete in, and that's without even getting to play them in McKale.

Years from now, will you remember this? Or how we did in the tourney? Because I'm pretty sure it's the latter.

We've had reg season success for ages. Haven't been to a FF in nearly a quarter century.

With you here BC. It's all about the tourney. That's all anyone remembers. Lloyd pushing his players to win the PAC regular season and PAC tourney really wore them out for the NCAAs.

Lute hated the PAC tourney with a very good reason, it wore his players out for the real tourney. Lute may have tanked a game or two in the PAC tourney for that reason.

[Postmaster]

Everyone else plays in those conference tournaments.

[EastCoastCat]

What’s really disappointing is the team has regressed defensively. Oppositions are getting much better looks, especially wide open 3’s, compared to a month ago. And I get we played against tougher teams but there is no ball pressure and it feels like everyone is getting beat off the dribble and high ball screens are torching us.

Defense was our signature for a while but it feels like we are 1 step behind, and with our inconsistent offense I’m not sure this team is equipped to make any noise in the Tourney.

And Lewis is just plain bad at the moment.

[84Cat]

Schedule announced for Big 12 tournament.

As the No. 3 seed, Arizona does not play until Thursday’s quarterfinals when it will face either No. 6 Kansas—whom it lost to in the regular season finale—No. 11 Utah or No. 14 UCF. Utah (16-15) and UCF (16-15) play Tuesday in the first round, with the Jayhawks (20-11).

Arizona’s opening game is the final one on the schedule for Thursday, slated for a 6:30 p.m. PT start and airing on either ESPN or ESPN2.

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[Alieberman]

I don't like how this team is trending right now... but I do welcome a rematch with Kansas

[Merkin]

Hopefully the KU game the night before will go into multiple OTs.

[dmjcat]

I don't like how this team is trending right now... but I do welcome a rematch with Kansas

I certainly don't welcome the rematch.

We have to play Kansas at what amounts to Allen Fieldhouse East. Its 42 miles from their campus and they will have 10,000+
fans in the crowd. They have also played numerous games at T-Mobile so they are very familiar with the rims/depth perception.

We have no answer for Hunter Dickinson. CTL can't coach Awaka to be 4 inches taller or Veesaar to be 30 pounds heavier by next thursday. Its just a bad matchup for us.

[azcat49]

You have to double down on him and take your chances with their perimeter guys. Up until yesterday, Mayo had not been very good so maybe he reverts to form

[Chicat]

We have to play Kansas at what amounts to Allen Fieldhouse East. Its 42 miles from their campus and they will have 10,000+
fans in the crowd. They have also played numerous games at T-Mobile so they are very familiar with the rims/depth perception.

Plenty of fans of other teams will be pulling for us.

[dmjcat]

You have to double down on him and take your chances with their perimeter guys. Up until yesterday, Mayo had not been very good so maybe he reverts to form

Good plan.

We all know how badly everyone shoots 3's against us.

[dmjcat]

We have to play Kansas at what amounts to Allen Fieldhouse East. Its 42 miles from their campus and they will have 10,000+
fans in the crowd. They have also played numerous games at T-Mobile so they are very familiar with the rims/depth perception.

Plenty of fans of other teams will be pulling for us.

Do you always rationalize on a sunday morning???

80-90% of the Non-Kansas/UA fans will sell their tickets. It will be worse than a UA-Oregon state matchup at T-Mobile Las Vegas in the old Pac12 tournament. The game is literally in their backyard.

It would be equivalent to the UA playing a Big12 tournament game in Green Valley

[Postmaster]

It can't be worse than playing in Allen Fieldhouse.


This team got burned out while TT was out and hasn't recovered. This conference doesn't allow for recovery like P12 or WCC

[AZCatGirl]

Kansas has been as inconsistent as us, so I wouldn't be shocked if we end up playing Utah or UCF, which would be boring as hell to watch.

[Beachcat97]

Kinda crazy that the season could only have two more games. I don't expect we'll lose in the first round of the NCAAs, but I do expect we'll lose to KU next week. This team hasn't shown the grit necessary to win a game like that.

[Chicat]

We have to play Kansas at what amounts to Allen Fieldhouse East. Its 42 miles from their campus and they will have 10,000+
fans in the crowd. They have also played numerous games at T-Mobile so they are very familiar with the rims/depth perception.

Plenty of fans of other teams will be pulling for us.

Do you always rationalize on a sunday morning???

80-90% of the Non-Kansas/UA fans will sell their tickets. It will be worse than a UA-Oregon state matchup at T-Mobile Las Vegas in the old Pac12 tournament. The game is literally in their backyard.

It would be equivalent to the UA playing a Big12 tournament game in Green Valley

You do realize that when we play them there will still be 6 other teams left, right?

I’m just informing you in case you wanted to take a break from your Sunday moaning.