Bear Down Wildcats

We should have our offices in a centrally located spot with cheap rent AKA the Las Vegas area.

Choo, why are the presidents dragging their feet with Scott and some of these decisions? Are they seeing something we are not?

azcat49 wrote:Choo, why are the presidents dragging their feet with Scott and some of these decisions? Are they seeing something we are not?

They lack a spine? They're indifferent to making a worthless balding man rich? I honestly don't know. His biggest supporter continues to be the assclowns up I-10.

Because they aren't on our side. They're part of the same club. They watch out for each other.

We all went and hired an outside accountant, a specialist in university finances from Michigan. He analyzed the U of A's financial situation and threw light on all the lies. He presented his findings publicly yesterday, along with all the supporting documents.

You wouldn't believe how much money gets funneled to the upper administration.

You wouldn't believe how much the campus financially supports Arizona Athletics, while claiming Arizona Athletics is self-supporting.

You wouldn't believe how high Arizona's bond rating is, in spite of the dire picture they presented to employees and the public in order to justify layoffs and furloughs.

You wouldn't believe how much the university fudged the financial impact numbers from the pandemic.

You wouldn't believe how big the university's assets are.

And you wouldn't believe how many hundreds of millions of dollars of unrestricted cash on hand for temporary emergency this university has.

Instead, the upper administration is benefiting off the pandemic while they're laying people off during a pandemic with no financial need to do so.

The university is cleaning house to consolidate the assets at the top, and out of the hands of tuition-paying students, their families, teaching, and research.

To varying degrees, all universities public and private are doing the same thing, and working with their athletic conferences. They're looking out for each other. But few universities have as much financial leeway as the U of A, and nobody is initiating a furlough program and layoffs as severe as the U of A.

The gall of President Robbins to use the words, "Bear Down." We need to restore the tradition.

Is there a lawsuit coming with that information the Michigan accountant found, LH?

ChooChooCat wrote:Is there a lawsuit coming with that information the Michigan accountant found, LH?

At least not yet that I've heard. But it resulted in the first assembly meeting of the general faculty in anyone's memory yesterday afternoon. At the meeting, the general faculty passed a motion to vote to delay the furloughs until mid-September in order to give President Robbins a chance to respond, and then to have new discussions based on the transparent data instead of how the central administration represented the financial situation. So my guess is a lot of jobs are about to be saved, and employees in more precarious positions ($50 K and lower annual salary) will be protected from furloughs. But the conversation now is going to turn to why any furloughs at all are necessary.

Not even UNM is doing furloughs. Most universities aren't. They hurt students because they chip away at services students need.

The results of the vote should be in by today.

Longhorned wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Is there a lawsuit coming with that information the Michigan accountant found, LH?

At least not yet that I've heard. But it resulted in the first assembly meeting of the general faculty in anyone's memory yesterday afternoon. At the meeting, the general faculty passed a motion to vote to day the furloughs until mid-September in order to give President Robbins a chance to respond, and then to have new discussions based on the transparent data instead of how the central administration represented the financial situation. So my guess is a lot of jobs are about to be saved, and employees in more precarious positions ($50 K and lower annual salary) will be protected from furloughs. But the conversation now is going to turn to why any furloughs at all are necessary.

Not even UNM is doing furloughs. Most universities aren't. They hurt students because they chip away at services students need.

The results of the vote should be in by today.

Keep us posted brother.

Longhorned wrote: Not even UNM is doing furloughs. Most universities aren't. They hurt students because they chip away at services students need.

The last time Cal Poly had furloughs, which was 7 years ago, the union members had to vote on it. Cut our pay 10%, but get the first and third, or second and fourth Friday's off, which did pass.

I still keep in touch with other Cal Poly employees, and they still have no idea what's going to happen. The state wants to cut everyone's pay 10%, so just guessing they will do that again with the Fridays. Can't remember what the faculty union voted to do, but thought it was the same.

Make it even easier this time with only 15% in person classes for Fall. Summer quarter has already started and is 100% online.

Oh, and yes, administrators only look out for other administrators. Super top heavy group.

The measure passed in a landslide. On to the media. The upper administration is about to get exposed publicly. Time for them to give in. This is great news for U of A students, families paying tuition, employees, the athletics programs, and pretty much everyone except the upper administration.

So to properly use what's become a misused phrase: Bear Down.

Good stuff

I want a refund for the ref center fees my kid was charged.
And why did they charge full tuition if most of the campus was unusable?

Postmaster wrote:I want a refund for the ref center fees my kid was charged.
And why did they charge full tuition if most of the campus was unusable?

One of my sons goes to Cal Poly and is still paying the rec center fees too. The Rec Center says they still need to pay the bonds back on schedule, so they still need to charge for it, used or not. At least he received his housing and food plan refund.

Postmaster wrote:I want a refund for the ref center fees my kid was charged.
And why did they charge full tuition if most of the campus was unusable?

Also the athletics fees. Why are students supplementing intercollegiate athletics while people draw enormous salaries from it and everyone under the sun is profiting from it?

What do you mean about full tuition when most of the campus was unusable? You mean from March 15-May 10, 2020? And so a partial refund from that date? Maybe based on analysis of savings from energy costs on those dates?

Longhorned wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Is there a lawsuit coming with that information the Michigan accountant found, LH?

At least not yet that I've heard. But it resulted in the first assembly meeting of the general faculty in anyone's memory yesterday afternoon. At the meeting, the general faculty passed a motion to vote to delay the furloughs until mid-September in order to give President Robbins a chance to respond, and then to have new discussions based on the transparent data instead of how the central administration represented the financial situation. So my guess is a lot of jobs are about to be saved, and employees in more precarious positions ($50 K and lower annual salary) will be protected from furloughs. But the conversation now is going to turn to why any furloughs at all are necessary.

Not even UNM is doing furloughs. Most universities aren't. They hurt students because they chip away at services students need.

The results of the vote should be in by today.

Has President Robbins responded? Furloughs begin on July 1st.

Longhorned wrote:

Postmaster wrote:I want a refund for the ref center fees my kid was charged.
And why did they charge full tuition if most of the campus was unusable?

Also the athletics fees. Why are students supplementing intercollegiate athletics while people draw enormous salaries from it and everyone under the sun is profiting from it?

What do you mean about full tuition when most of the campus was unusable? You mean from March 15-May 10, 2020? And so a partial refund from that date? Maybe based on analysis of savings from energy costs on those dates?

Yes, something like that.
They aren’t providing all of the service.
Most major insurance companies did some sort of refund. Something along those lines.

President Robbins delayed the furloughs until 8/10/20.

My friend just got hired at U of A as an unpaid part time worker

Postmaster wrote:My friend just got hired at U of A as an unpaid part time worker

Is this:
A) A joke?
B) An unfiltered statement of fact?
C) A carefully crafted example of Orwellian Oceanic newspeak?
D) All of the above?

By the by, where is Longhorned?

Postmaster wrote:My friend just got hired at U of A as an unpaid part time worker

Cal Poly has (or had) many volunteer employees. I used to set up accounts for them as a small part of my job so they can get online access and email.

One of my sister's former husbands used to sell programs at the UA basketball games just so he can watch the game for free.

In the LA film industry, the majority of jobs are unpaid as people are trying to break in and will do whatever it takes.

ByJoveByJingle wrote:

Postmaster wrote:My friend just got hired at U of A as an unpaid part time worker

Is this:
A) A joke?
B) An unfiltered statement of fact?
C) A carefully crafted example of Orwellian Oceanic newspeak?
D) All of the above?

B

Postmaster wrote:

ByJoveByJingle wrote:

Postmaster wrote:My friend just got hired at U of A as an unpaid part time worker

Is this:
A) A joke?
B) An unfiltered statement of fact?
C) A carefully crafted example of Orwellian Oceanic newspeak?
D) All of the above?

B

{sad robot noises}

The UofA responded today saying there is no reserve fund. I wonder where the guy who reviewed the report got the $806 million number?

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ChooChooCat wrote:https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/john_ ... rters.html

Read the article just for the speculation that they could buy Scott out early.

Please let this happen.

8.1m in rent, that is crazy. I guess pulling the plug on that now would be difficult given the economic conditions and the virus going wild.

It seems like everyone would welcome a buyout and a shift in vision for the conference. Does this type of move need to be unanimous amongst the school presidents? Seems the vote would be 10-2 at minimum to negotiate him out

It took a crisis for them to realize Scott was doing a shit job, eh?

Sad!

SCCats wrote:It took a crisis for them to realize Scott was doing a shit job, eh?

Sad!

It took a crisis for them to acknowledge Scott was doing a shit job. I think everyone realized it, but there was no groundswell of support to remove him (except from us of course).

Get better soon Larry so I can go back to hating you with the white hot fury of a thousand suns.

How much longer until the network goes under? All because Larry had to stick to his asinine plan instead of accepting money from ESPN or seeking it from any other network.

Edit: It just gets worse:

And still Larry has a job???

I hope whoever the insider is in this case can write the book of ‘How Larry kept his job for so long’ after Larry eventually gets fired.

SCCats wrote:

And still Larry has a job???

I hope whoever the insider is in this case can write the book of ‘How Larry kept his job for so long’ after Larry eventually gets fired.

Michael Crow, Dan Guerrero, and 10 spineless pieces of shit.

PAC 12 network will be dead by spring. And once we actually do have sports again next spring or fall...there won't be any place to watch them.

ASUHATER! wrote:PAC 12 network will be dead by spring. And once we actually do have sports again next spring or fall...there won't be any place to watch them.

Sure thing champ

ASUHATER! wrote:PAC 12 network will be dead by spring. And once we actually do have sports again next spring or fall...there won't be any place to watch them.

For once I agree with you, but remember the days of the Fox Sports Networks showing our games? That’s likely the scenario we’re headed for.

ChooChooCat wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:PAC 12 network will be dead by spring. And once we actually do have sports again next spring or fall...there won't be any place to watch them.

For once I agree with you, but remember the days of the Fox Sports Networks showing our games? That’s likely the scenario we’re headed for.

At least I can get the Diamondbacks, Suns, Coyotes, and ‘Cats on the same streaming service then.

ChooChooCat wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:PAC 12 network will be dead by spring. And once we actually do have sports again next spring or fall...there won't be any place to watch them.

For once I agree with you, but remember the days of the Fox Sports Networks showing our games? That’s likely the scenario we’re headed for.

True. I actually preferred those to the PAC 12 network

Choo obviously knows his stuff but I just dont see that being the end of it

The conference and the individual universities own the network. They are not just going to see it collapse completely especially when they had so much pride in owning 100% of it unlike Big Ten and SEC. Much more likely that Fox or CBS or NBC or espn buys up the network completely or 50% of it and uses some of their resources to bring it back up when games come back

With the agreements in place for the next several years it is much more valuable to the conference to sell off a portion of the network at a discount and broadcast games than it is to sell their inventory of games at a discount.

ASUHATER! wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:PAC 12 network will be dead by spring. And once we actually do have sports again next spring or fall...there won't be any place to watch them.

For once I agree with you, but remember the days of the Fox Sports Networks showing our games? That’s likely the scenario we’re headed for.

True. I actually preferred those to the PAC 12 network

Pretty sure we all did man, at least we all had access to the games then.

PHXCATS wrote:Choo obviously knows his stuff but I just dont see that being the end of it

The conference and the individual universities own the network. They are not just going to see it collapse completely especially when they had so much pride in owning 100% of it unlike Big Ten and SEC. Much more likely that Fox or CBS or NBC or espn buys up the network completely or 50% of it and uses some of their resources to bring it back up when games come back

With the agreements in place for the next several years it is much more valuable to the conference to sell off a portion of the network at a discount and broadcast games than it is to sell their inventory of games at a discount.

ESPN offered to run the entire network for us in return for reupping our TV deal with them. We said no. It would be all too appropriate for the PAC 12 to run to ESPN with its tail between its legs and zero leverage and take less in return to keep the network alive.

But then we’d have to boycott the games

Postmaster wrote:But then we’d have to boycott the games

Not me. My love of watching Arizona games exceeds any hatred I have for their employees.

ChooChooCat wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:Choo obviously knows his stuff but I just dont see that being the end of it

The conference and the individual universities own the network. They are not just going to see it collapse completely especially when they had so much pride in owning 100% of it unlike Big Ten and SEC. Much more likely that Fox or CBS or NBC or espn buys up the network completely or 50% of it and uses some of their resources to bring it back up when games come back

With the agreements in place for the next several years it is much more valuable to the conference to sell off a portion of the network at a discount and broadcast games than it is to sell their inventory of games at a discount.

ESPN offered to run the entire network for us in return for reupping our TV deal with them. We said no. It would be all too appropriate for the PAC 12 to run to ESPN with its tail between its legs and zero leverage and take less in return to keep the network alive.

That would absolutely be the most Larry Scott way for Larry Scott ends his tenure with the PAC-12

Postmaster wrote:But then we’d have to boycott the games

I have not been to espn.com since 3/1/18. I have no listened to espn radio since 3/1/18. I have only turned my tv onto espn stations for live games since 3/1/18.

ChooChooCat wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:PAC 12 network will be dead by spring. And once we actually do have sports again next spring or fall...there won't be any place to watch them.

For once I agree with you, but remember the days of the Fox Sports Networks showing our games? That’s likely the scenario we’re headed for.

True. I actually preferred those to the PAC 12 network

Pretty sure we all did man, at least we all had access to the games then.

Even if we missed the first 5 mins

Sitton/Elliott or Walton/Pasch?

I know, its a tough one

Wilner with more details.

I imagine Scott is still the highest paid commissioner in the P5 even with his token cut?