Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:06 pm
I think we are 1A to Nebraska ' s 1B right now with Graham. I think this one will be a tug of war until signing day
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I didn't know anything changed. what have you heard? Wasn't ever a forgone conclusion he was coming here, but he liked us a lot.MrBug708 wrote:Holmes is off to Stanford if he gets in, but that's considered a long shot. I thought Arizona was considered a favorite for Graham when he decommitted from SC, so I'm guessing things changed?
MrBug708 wrote:Holmes is off to Stanford if he gets in, but that's considered a long shot. I thought Arizona was considered a favorite for Graham when he decommitted from SC, so I'm guessing things changed?
ChooChooCat wrote:Who do you think lands Graham then?chiefzona wrote:gronk4heisman wrote:Elijah Blades is announcing in a few weeks (June 12th) and it appears to be between us and Florida. If we do in fact land him does that take us out of the running for Thomas Graham and Darnay Holmes? That will be two big time players to man the corners (Greg Johnson being the other) and it is my understanding Holmes and Graham would be competing at the same position.
I think there is a very good chance that Arizona lands Blades. I would be surprised if Arizona landed Graham and shocked if they landed Holmes. I think Johnson is way better suited as a RB/WR/slot than a CB but that is just my two cents.
They only have about 5 guys for 2017 atm and I'm not familiar with them, but I'm sure there will be contact to gauge interest. What will be interesting is if their 2016 guys can get out of an LOI if some sanctions come.TuiTouchdown wrote:With Briles gone from Baylor, any chance we poach some 'cruits?
Edgar Burrola does not have an offer from Arizona State.CatsbyAZ wrote:Las Vegas area Offensive Lineman commits to Cats. Edgar Burrola, with other offers from ASU and Idaho.
And I thought you were joking, but you are indeed correct.ALASKACAT wrote:ASU in this case was Adams State University.
chiefzona wrote:Everyone on here knows what I'm talking about, Slick. The last two commits are walk ons. Wasted roster space. Those two couldn't even walk on at Oregon State. Come on. If you want to be a big dog you gotta get better than that. I have no problem with them walking on at all....just not two scholarships going out like that.
ChooChooCat wrote:Drew Dixon is not walk on material Chief, that's just god damn stupid if that's what you're implying.
UALoco wrote:Edgar Burrola got rated a 3 star. That sounds like he would've eventually gotten offers from other schools and so would not be "walk-on" material. Time will only tell.
Of course you know more then a guy who has been to 3 BCS bowls and gets paid 3m a year. We should turn the program over to you slickchiefzona wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:Drew Dixon is not walk on material Chief, that's just god damn stupid if that's what you're implying.
Sure he is. He's not good enough as a QB. He is limited at WR. He wouldn't make a good RB and he hasn't played defense as far as I know. Is he athletic? Yes, but there are question marks. He will be a project at whatever position that staff wants to play him at.
azcat49 wrote:Of course you know more then a guy who has been to 3 BCS bowls and gets paid 3m a year. We should turn the program over to you slick
Eh, I wouldn't want the head ache. It's more fun being an armchair HC. With all that aside, his player evaluations have left a lot to be desired. There are a lot of better guys available out there as far as 2017 guys are concerned. RR can't afford to have another down year because the other South programs are picking up recruiting steam. Nice use of slick. Made me laugh.azcat49 wrote:Of course you know more then a guy who has been to 3 BCS bowls and gets paid 3m a year. We should turn the program over to you slickchiefzona wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:Drew Dixon is not walk on material Chief, that's just god damn stupid if that's what you're implying.
Sure he is. He's not good enough as a QB. He is limited at WR. He wouldn't make a good RB and he hasn't played defense as far as I know. Is he athletic? Yes, but there are question marks. He will be a project at whatever position that staff wants to play him at.
chiefzona wrote:Everyone on here knows what I'm talking about, Slick. The last two commits are walk ons. Wasted roster space. Those two couldn't even walk on at Oregon State. Come on. If you want to be a big dog you gotta get better than that. I have no problem with them walking on at all....just not two scholarships going out like that.
Underrated because you said so? So I assume if we offer those guys and they committ that won't be a waste of a schollie. I am completely baffledchiefzona wrote:A good group of guys are headed to Tucson tomorrow and stopping by campus. The lesser known guys like 2017's Los Angeles HS QB Kaymen Cureton, Hamilton HS FS/WR Jacques Wilson, and Salesian WR Emari Smith, might get some looks with staff. Cureton is a SJSU commit with an Alabama and South Carolina offer. I spoke with him today and he said he hopes to get an offer from Arizona because he loves Donte. Cureton would be a very good fit. Wilson and Smith are track stars. Underrated with lots of potential. We'll see what happens.
Oh, I stopped disagreeing once Casteel was fired. Haha. Dixon is not 6'4 for everyone's info. He is 6'1. So, let's put the size thing away quickly. I would never offer him so quickly when I have a Donte on staff and have much more talent that is higher on the board than Dixon. You say that he COULD range. One thing he is not is a QB and that's his primary position. I would have waited until later this year to do anything with him and not have him as such a high priority. There are kids that I got into Arizona camps who played against D1 talent every game, had no rating, and could run circles around Dixon while wearing shower shoes. So, you must think that Rhett warranted a scholie too? Burrola is terrible. He really is. He couldn't walk on at Oregon State right now. Arizona is not in a position to pussyfoot right now. The heat is on. Recruiting is of the essence and of the utmost priority and Arizona has two real damn good recruiters with big connections and good repoire.catinfl wrote:chiefzona wrote:Everyone on here knows what I'm talking about, Slick. The last two commits are walk ons. Wasted roster space. Those two couldn't even walk on at Oregon State. Come on. If you want to be a big dog you gotta get better than that. I have no problem with them walking on at all....just not two scholarships going out like that.![]()
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I know you have to be disagreeing with the staff in some way at all times to feel normal, but come on. Dixon is anything, but walk on material. Kid has great size, is athletic, and from Tucson. How do you not take a kid like that. Could range anywhere from WR to LB to DB. He may be a project, but he's worth taking a shot at and worth a scholarship. Im also a big fan of recruiting QB's as Athletes. Georgia Tech makes a living on converting these guys because often they are the best athletes on the team. Burrolla camped with Arizona and is a 6'6 295 pound kid. I don't see any problem with taking a lineman from a state that some prospects don't get the looks they necessarily deserve. Could he amount to nothing? Sure, but a 6'6 295 pound kid isn't the worst way to waste a scholarship if it turns out that way.
azcat49 wrote:Underrated because you said so? So I assume if we offer those guys and they committ that won't be a waste of a schollie. I am completely baffledchiefzona wrote:A good group of guys are headed to Tucson tomorrow and stopping by campus. The lesser known guys like 2017's Los Angeles HS QB Kaymen Cureton, Hamilton HS FS/WR Jacques Wilson, and Salesian WR Emari Smith, might get some looks with staff. Cureton is a SJSU commit with an Alabama and South Carolina offer. I spoke with him today and he said he hopes to get an offer from Arizona because he loves Donte. Cureton would be a very good fit. Wilson and Smith are track stars. Underrated with lots of potential. We'll see what happens.
I am hearing they are going to tear down the other side of the bleachers on the first base side since the third base ones are now down to make room for the new academic facility. Then they put the indoor facility on the corner and closer to the stadium to have it as an indoor tailgating place like Oregon and close to the current football facility.ChooChooCat wrote:I get where the indoor facility will go, but where are these extra practice fields going to be located??
So Greg Byrne is bringing the heat LOL. He is the 9nly guy who could. He will wait for the results and measure what he see's at practice which unfortunately you can't see. Such bullshitchiefzona wrote:catinfl wrote:chiefzona wrote:Everyone on here knows what I'm talking about, Slick. The last two commits are walk ons. Wasted roster space. Those two couldn't even walk on at Oregon State. Come on. If you want to be a big dog you gotta get better than that. I have no problem with them walking on at all....just not two scholarships going out like that.![]()
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I know you have to be disagreeing with the staff in some way at all times to feel normal, but come on. Dixon is anything, but walk on material. Kid has great size, is athletic, and from Tucson. How do you not take a kid like that. Could range anywhere from WR to LB to DB. He may be a project, but he's worth taking a shot at and worth a scholarship. Im also a big fan of recruiting QB's as Athletes. Georgia Tech makes a living on converting these guys because often they are the best athletes on the team. Burrolla camped with Arizona and is a 6'6 295 pound kid. I don't see any problem with taking a lineman from a state that some prospects don't get the looks they necessarily deserve. Could he amount to nothing? Sure, but a 6'6 295 pound kid isn't the worst way to waste a scholarship if it turns
Oh, I stopped disagreeing once Casteel was fired. Haha. Dixon is not 6'4 for everyone's info. He is 6'1. So, let's put the size thing away quickly. I would never offer him so quickly when I have a Donte on staff and have much more talent that is higher on the board than Dixon. You say that he COULD range. One thing he is not is a QB and that's his primary position. I would have waited until later this year to do anything with him and not have him as such a high priority. There are kids that I got into Arizona camps who played against D1 talent every game, had no rating, and could run circles around Dixon while wearing shower shoes. So, you must think that Rhett warranted a scholie too? Burrola is terrible. He really is. He couldn't walk on at Oregon State right now. Arizona is not in a position to pussyfoot right now. The heat is on. Recruiting is of the essence and of the utmost priority and Arizona has two real damn good recruiters with big connections and good repoire.
I'm thinking you're off your meds. Zero to do with Byrne. I'm talking about the other PAC 12 teams gaining steam while RR has taken off recruiting for the last few years. The pace needs to be picked up.azcat49 wrote:So Greg Byrne is bringing the heat LOL. He is the 9nly guy who could. He will wait for the results and measure what he see's at practice which unfortunately you can't see. Such bullshitchiefzona wrote:catinfl wrote:chiefzona wrote:Everyone on here knows what I'm talking about, Slick. The last two commits are walk ons. Wasted roster space. Those two couldn't even walk on at Oregon State. Come on. If you want to be a big dog you gotta get better than that. I have no problem with them walking on at all....just not two scholarships going out like that.![]()
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I know you have to be disagreeing with the staff in some way at all times to feel normal, but come on. Dixon is anything, but walk on material. Kid has great size, is athletic, and from Tucson. How do you not take a kid like that. Could range anywhere from WR to LB to DB. He may be a project, but he's worth taking a shot at and worth a scholarship. Im also a big fan of recruiting QB's as Athletes. Georgia Tech makes a living on converting these guys because often they are the best athletes on the team. Burrolla camped with Arizona and is a 6'6 295 pound kid. I don't see any problem with taking a lineman from a state that some prospects don't get the looks they necessarily deserve. Could he amount to nothing? Sure, but a 6'6 295 pound kid isn't the worst way to waste a scholarship if it turns
Oh, I stopped disagreeing once Casteel was fired. Haha. Dixon is not 6'4 for everyone's info. He is 6'1. So, let's put the size thing away quickly. I would never offer him so quickly when I have a Donte on staff and have much more talent that is higher on the board than Dixon. You say that he COULD range. One thing he is not is a QB and that's his primary position. I would have waited until later this year to do anything with him and not have him as such a high priority. There are kids that I got into Arizona camps who played against D1 talent every game, had no rating, and could run circles around Dixon while wearing shower shoes. So, you must think that Rhett warranted a scholie too? Burrola is terrible. He really is. He couldn't walk on at Oregon State right now. Arizona is not in a position to pussyfoot right now. The heat is on. Recruiting is of the essence and of the utmost priority and Arizona has two real damn good recruiters with big connections and good repoire.
Please keep disagreeing. Haha. Dixon is 6'3 in heels and runs a slower 40 than Anu. He got schooled today multiple times against the Cali kids. Burrola is just bad on film. He's more than a work in progress. It's just not there. 2 guys you could've had walk on while saving spots for guys higher up on the board which there are a lot. Recruiting 101....Don't blow your load on anything to early if you can get that kid later on.Newportcat wrote:Chief,
I normally am one of the only ones here who sometimes agrees with you but in the case of Dixon and Burrola I think you are wrong. Rhett, I agree with 100% as giving him a scholarship is a giant waste of one.
Dixon is 6'3, check out his testing results from a Nike Combine. My experience is the Nike Combines are pretty accurate. Now it does not get me jazzed we just took a WR who ran a 4.91 40 but his other measurements are decent so gives him an ok SPARQ rating. Like the Vertical leap at 33 and shuttle time is not terrible. However the guy is from Tucson and I think you always take a risk on a Tucson player because nothing pisses me off more then seeing guys like Aaron Tevis or Blake Martinez thrive in other programs when we should have the leg up since we are the home town team.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/footb ... drew-dixon
Regarding Burrola, yes its pathetic the guy does not even have an offer from UNLV and he is from Vegas but maybe the staff is thinking of greyshirting him? He also was quickly ranked a top 100 OT by 247 sports after he committed to us and they gave this assessment
http://247sports.com/Bolt/New-Arizona-c ... g-45723882
Could he suck sure, but again maybe the staff is going to greyshirt him. He is also 6'6 295 lbs and you can never coach size. From his videos it actually looks like he has good feet and can move well and still looks like he can bulk up.
If you are going to take a flyer, a Top 100 OT with legit size is not a bad flyer to take. While neither recruit is a world beater, I would not be so depressed about either one either
azgreg wrote:
ALASKACAT wrote:ASU in this case was Adams State University.
chiefzona wrote:Please keep disagreeing. Haha. Dixon is 6'3 in heels and runs a slower 40 than Anu. He got schooled today multiple times against the Cali kids. Burrola is just bad on film. He's more than a work in progress. It's just not there. 2 guys you could've had walk on while saving spots for guys higher up on the board which there are a lot. Recruiting 101....Don't blow your load on anything to early if you can get that kid later on.Newportcat wrote:Chief,
I normally am one of the only ones here who sometimes agrees with you but in the case of Dixon and Burrola I think you are wrong. Rhett, I agree with 100% as giving him a scholarship is a giant waste of one.
Dixon is 6'3, check out his testing results from a Nike Combine. My experience is the Nike Combines are pretty accurate. Now it does not get me jazzed we just took a WR who ran a 4.91 40 but his other measurements are decent so gives him an ok SPARQ rating. Like the Vertical leap at 33 and shuttle time is not terrible. However the guy is from Tucson and I think you always take a risk on a Tucson player because nothing pisses me off more then seeing guys like Aaron Tevis or Blake Martinez thrive in other programs when we should have the leg up since we are the home town team.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/footb ... drew-dixon
Regarding Burrola, yes its pathetic the guy does not even have an offer from UNLV and he is from Vegas but maybe the staff is thinking of greyshirting him? He also was quickly ranked a top 100 OT by 247 sports after he committed to us and they gave this assessment
http://247sports.com/Bolt/New-Arizona-c ... g-45723882
Could he suck sure, but again maybe the staff is going to greyshirt him. He is also 6'6 295 lbs and you can never coach size. From his videos it actually looks like he has good feet and can move well and still looks like he can bulk up.
If you are going to take a flyer, a Top 100 OT with legit size is not a bad flyer to take. While neither recruit is a world beater, I would not be so depressed about either one either