Bear Down Wildcats

BearDown89 wrote:My coaching buddy here says Harsin is not fun to work for.

Yates leaves after two years as the Broncos’ defensive coordinator and less than a week after offensive coordinator Eliah Drinkwitz left the program for North Carolina State. Coach Bryan Harsin’s original offensive coordinator, Mike Sanford, also left after one year.

Harsin didn’t retain his defensive coordinator or half of his co-offensive coordinator duo from his first year as a head coach at Arkansas State.

3goggles wrote:It's not official I know but what a great weekend to be a mother fucking Wildcat! Bear down!!!

chiefzona wrote:Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe! I am doing the dance! Time for the Shaman to start chanting, sage to be burning, and the drums to be beating......fire is burning.

SCCats wrote:Very exciting

I don't have any inside sources or inside information, but the process and the results fell like we were following the Way of the Ninja

/deep bow

cordera89 wrote:So were going to run the 4-2-5 defense then. You know the media really need to stop hyping it up like he a big deal. Sure it a good hired plus he young guys stepping in the shoes of trying to rebuild or let just say remodel our current defense. Question is going to say can he get the job done in the Pac 12 and South Division, Let alone of what accomplish at Boise State against non inferior opponent.

cordera89 wrote:So were going to run the 4-2-5 defense then. You know the media really need to stop hyping it up like he a big deal. Sure it a good hired plus he young guys stepping in the shoes of trying to rebuild or let just say remodel our current defense. Question is going to say can he get the job done in the Pac 12 and South Division, Let alone of what accomplish at Boise State against non inferior opponent.

It’s a huge hire for the Wildcats because Yates is regarded as one of college football’s best young defensive minds and also a premier recruiter in his native Los Angeles. Behind his aggressive 4-2-5 scheme, Boise State was 12th in the FBS this past season in total defense (318.3 yards per game) and 18th in scoring defense (20.2 points per game).

The Broncos were also fifth nationally in turnovers gained (35). This past season was Yates’ second as the program’s defensive coordinator.

UofACat23 wrote:

cordera89 wrote:So were going to run the 4-2-5 defense then. You know the media really need to stop hyping it up like he a big deal. Sure it a good hired plus he young guys stepping in the shoes of trying to rebuild or let just say remodel our current defense. Question is going to say can he get the job done in the Pac 12 and South Division, Let alone of what accomplish at Boise State against non inferior opponent.

Yates was also co-DC at Texas A&M...

Puerco wrote:

cordera89 wrote:So were going to run the 4-2-5 defense then. You know the media really need to stop hyping it up like he a big deal. Sure it a good hired plus he young guys stepping in the shoes of trying to rebuild or let just say remodel our current defense. Question is going to say can he get the job done in the Pac 12 and South Division, Let alone of what accomplish at Boise State against non inferior opponent.

Oh, inferior like the UA in the Fiesta Bowl last year? You need to stop moaning, cordera. Why would the national media, like SI, hype up this hire? They've got nothing banked on UA...

It funny that you act like I didn't read up on everyone else comment and reading the up on this person who is becoming our DC. But it seem you think I'm moaning because of this hired in which I'm not. I don't like the fact that media is acting like this is hugh hired for Arizona but from what? Moving from 3-3-5 to 4-2-5 and being a good recruiter. Question is what can he do with our current defense that has bad for 3 of the 4 years. You don't see it.

It’s a huge hire for the Wildcats because Yates is regarded as one of college football’s best young defensive minds and also a premier recruiter in his native Los Angeles. Behind his aggressive 4-2-5 scheme, Boise State was 12th in the FBS this past season in total defense (318.3 yards per game) and 18th in scoring defense (20.2 points per game).

The Broncos were also fifth nationally in turnovers gained (35). This past season was Yates’ second as the program’s defensive coordinator.

Sid wrote:I still think the Ninja had a big freaking hand in all of this, death to the 3-3-5.....thank God!

Going to be a heck of a lot of fun following recruiting and watching this new staff flip some beasts in the coming weeks.

BTFD!

Sid wrote:I still think the Ninja had a big freaking hand in all of this, death to the 3-3-5.....thank God!

Going to be a heck of a lot of fun following recruiting and watching this new staff flip some beasts in the coming weeks.

BTFD!

cordera89 wrote:

Sid wrote:I still think the Ninja had a big freaking hand in all of this, death to the 3-3-5.....thank God!

Going to be a heck of a lot of fun following recruiting and watching this new staff flip some beasts in the coming weeks.

BTFD!

Yea but is it really, were moving from 3-3-5 to 4-2-5 that not a big step up thou.

Chicat wrote:Sorry Cordera, but this is a huge hire. If you've got some kind of substantive reason why it isn't, I'd love to hear it.

CalStateTempe wrote:So will we have the horses to compete in this scheme or will we have to wait a year or two defensively?

ASUHATER! wrote:

cordera89 wrote:

Sid wrote:I still think the Ninja had a big freaking hand in all of this, death to the 3-3-5.....thank God!

Going to be a heck of a lot of fun following recruiting and watching this new staff flip some beasts in the coming weeks.

BTFD!

Yea but is it really, were moving from 3-3-5 to 4-2-5 that not a big step up thou.

Two completely different schemes. Vastly different

azpenguin wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:So will we have the horses to compete in this scheme or will we have to wait a year or two defensively?

Current and incoming talent should drop very nicely into this scheme. Up front there's Marcus Griffin, Sharif Williams, Calvin Allen, Luca Bruno, Sani Fuimaono as far as big horses go. Zellers and Banda aren't as big but they may be able to be coached into this scheme considering that they've been able to compete well. If Fotu comes back that would be big. If the staff can land Allen, you've got a solid rotation up front. Cobb and Ware may be able to play in this scheme although that remains to be seen; I don't know if RR wants to give up Cobb at fullback, especially with how many linebackers are already on the roster. Some of the linebackers may get a look at safety spots. The big question remains the cornerbacks. One of the big problems is that these guys would get smoked at the snap and end up trying to make up ground, so they're going to have to be coached not to allow receivers to get that kind of release. I know they were talking about moving Denson back to WR but I wonder if this may change with the new staff - Denson has experience and he's fast, and if he can take the coaching... I think the big key this year will be to get off the field on third downs because if they can do that it will keep them fresh, considering depth could be a bit of an issue (maybe not as much as this last year, though.) If they go to a 4-3 or a 3-4 then there may be a steeper learning curve. In the 4-2-5 they can compete more quickly but they're still going to take their lumps.

cordera89 wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:

cordera89 wrote:

Sid wrote:I still think the Ninja had a big freaking hand in all of this, death to the 3-3-5.....thank God!

Going to be a heck of a lot of fun following recruiting and watching this new staff flip some beasts in the coming weeks.

BTFD!

Yea but is it really, were moving from 3-3-5 to 4-2-5 that not a big step up thou.

Two completely different schemes. Vastly different

335 is built to stop up tempo spread and 425 is built to stop power running offense.

azcat49 wrote:

cordera89 wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:

cordera89 wrote:

Sid wrote:I still think the Ninja had a big freaking hand in all of this, death to the 3-3-5.....thank God!

Going to be a heck of a lot of fun following recruiting and watching this new staff flip some beasts in the coming weeks.

BTFD!

Yea but is it really, were moving from 3-3-5 to 4-2-5 that not a big step up thou.

Two completely different schemes. Vastly different

335 is built to stop up tempo spread and 425 is built to stop power running offense.

We couldn't stop either so rejoice in the change and attempt to improve

cordera89 wrote:

Puerco wrote:

cordera89 wrote:So were going to run the 4-2-5 defense then. You know the media really need to stop hyping it up like he a big deal. Sure it a good hired plus he young guys stepping in the shoes of trying to rebuild or let just say remodel our current defense. Question is going to say can he get the job done in the Pac 12 and South Division, Let alone of what accomplish at Boise State against non inferior opponent.

Oh, inferior like the UA in the Fiesta Bowl last year? You need to stop moaning, cordera. Why would the national media, like SI, hype up this hire? They've got nothing banked on UA...

It funny that you act like I didn't read up on everyone else comment and reading the up on this person who is becoming our DC. But it seem you think I'm moaning because of this hired in which I'm not. I don't like the fact that media is acting like this is hugh hired for Arizona but from what? Moving from 3-3-5 to 4-2-5 and being a good recruiter. Question is what can he do with our current defense that has bad for 3 of the 4 years. You don't see it.

It’s a huge hire for the Wildcats because Yates is regarded as one of college football’s best young defensive minds and also a premier recruiter in his native Los Angeles. Behind his aggressive 4-2-5 scheme, Boise State was 12th in the FBS this past season in total defense (318.3 yards per game) and 18th in scoring defense (20.2 points per game).

The Broncos were also fifth nationally in turnovers gained (35). This past season was Yates’ second as the program’s defensive coordinator.

Puerco wrote:

cordera89 wrote:

Puerco wrote:

cordera89 wrote:So were going to run the 4-2-5 defense then. You know the media really need to stop hyping it up like he a big deal. Sure it a good hired plus he young guys stepping in the shoes of trying to rebuild or let just say remodel our current defense. Question is going to say can he get the job done in the Pac 12 and South Division, Let alone of what accomplish at Boise State against non inferior opponent.

Oh, inferior like the UA in the Fiesta Bowl last year? You need to stop moaning, cordera. Why would the national media, like SI, hype up this hire? They've got nothing banked on UA...

It funny that you act like I didn't read up on everyone else comment and reading the up on this person who is becoming our DC. But it seem you think I'm moaning because of this hired in which I'm not. I don't like the fact that media is acting like this is hugh hired for Arizona but from what? Moving from 3-3-5 to 4-2-5 and being a good recruiter. Question is what can he do with our current defense that has bad for 3 of the 4 years. You don't see it.

It’s a huge hire for the Wildcats because Yates is regarded as one of college football’s best young defensive minds and also a premier recruiter in his native Los Angeles. Behind his aggressive 4-2-5 scheme, Boise State was 12th in the FBS this past season in total defense (318.3 yards per game) and 18th in scoring defense (20.2 points per game).

The Broncos were also fifth nationally in turnovers gained (35). This past season was Yates’ second as the program’s defensive coordinator.

Dkenner wrote: Before I reveal it, please bear mind that it’s a name I gleaned from a source who is not connected in any way with the Arizona football program. This person has been at the AFCA Convention in San Antonio, where literally thousands of coaches are gathered and you hear things.

The name the source gave me was Marcel Yates, the current defensive coordinator at Boise State. I didn’t think much of it at the time, but later in the day, when Matt Caponi left the UA program, it started to make more sense.

CalStateTempe wrote:This all sounds so exciting, really pumped to see what we can do in spring ball defensively.

Did codera become chiefzona with this hire?

Puerco wrote:

cordera89 wrote:

Puerco wrote:

cordera89 wrote:So were going to run the 4-2-5 defense then. You know the media really need to stop hyping it up like he a big deal. Sure it a good hired plus he young guys stepping in the shoes of trying to rebuild or let just say remodel our current defense. Question is going to say can he get the job done in the Pac 12 and South Division, Let alone of what accomplish at Boise State against non inferior opponent.

Oh, inferior like the UA in the Fiesta Bowl last year? You need to stop moaning, cordera. Why would the national media, like SI, hype up this hire? They've got nothing banked on UA...

It funny that you act like I didn't read up on everyone else comment and reading the up on this person who is becoming our DC. But it seem you think I'm moaning because of this hired in which I'm not. I don't like the fact that media is acting like this is hugh hired for Arizona but from what? Moving from 3-3-5 to 4-2-5 and being a good recruiter. Question is what can he do with our current defense that has bad for 3 of the 4 years. You don't see it.

It’s a huge hire for the Wildcats because Yates is regarded as one of college football’s best young defensive minds and also a premier recruiter in his native Los Angeles. Behind his aggressive 4-2-5 scheme, Boise State was 12th in the FBS this past season in total defense (318.3 yards per game) and 18th in scoring defense (20.2 points per game).

The Broncos were also fifth nationally in turnovers gained (35). This past season was Yates’ second as the program’s defensive coordinator.

First, learn to use the quote function, because I don't want anyone confusing your words for mine, cordera.

Second, I have no clue, and I couldn't care less, what or how much you've read about Yates. You said the media shouldn't hype the hire, and I quoted a Sports Illustrated opinion in order to show that's not just local media hyping the hire. While the local guys might have reason to hype the program, the national guys certainly don't.

And finally to what seems to be bugging you, no one has a frickin' clue what Yates can do with our defense RIGHT NOW. Indications are promising that he'll eventually be able to build one through recruiting better players. What were you hoping for? He doesn't have to do much to put a better prospect on the field than Casteel has since he'd been here.

CalStateTempe wrote:This all sounds so exciting, really pumped to see what we can do in spring ball defensively.

Did codera become chiefzona with this hire?

cordera89 wrote:So were going to run the 4-2-5 defense then. You know the media really need to stop hyping it up like he a big deal. Sure it a good hired plus he young guys stepping in the shoes of trying to rebuild or let just say remodel our current defense. Question is going to say can he get the job done in the Pac 12 and South Division, Let alone of what accomplish at Boise State against non inferior opponent.