Bear Down Wildcats

Chicat wrote:

HiCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:Miller in Michigan to watch Jackson:

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf ... ry_package" target="_blank

MSU in "Full Court Press" for Jackson

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle ... /77995278/" target="_blank

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf ... idges.html" target="_blank

At least Jacksons mom isn't a copy of Ivan Rabbs mother........she wouldn't even discuss his recruitment. That gives me some hope that MSU isn't a slam dunk.

"He said he is still considering MSU, Arizona, Kansas, UNLV and Maryland and doesn’t expect to decide on one until late February."

Didn't JJ already cut his list down to 2?
Writer not aware of latest info my guess, therefore grain of salt rule applies.

JJ's camp had to walk back that report. Apparently the writer took some liberties with what JJ said, or at least interpreted things in a way they would have rathered he hadn't.

In truth, there is a leader in his recruitment. A lot would have to happen for that to change. But JJ and his mom are being smart right now and not shutting the door on any opportunities.

I'm not trying to be argumentative here, butI don't get quite get this. If you're a good high school basketball player looking for the right "fit" then I guess it would make sense. But JJ seems like he would absolutely start at any program in the country next season, regardless of where he goes. Any school would welcome him with open arms, no? What exactly would have to happen for the current leader to no longer be his school of choice? Does the leader in his recruitment know they're the leader and also know that as long as things don't change then he's going to commit to that school in February?

carolinacat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

HiCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:Miller in Michigan to watch Jackson:

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf ... ry_package" target="_blank

MSU in "Full Court Press" for Jackson

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle ... /77995278/" target="_blank

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf ... idges.html" target="_blank

At least Jacksons mom isn't a copy of Ivan Rabbs mother........she wouldn't even discuss his recruitment. That gives me some hope that MSU isn't a slam dunk.

"He said he is still considering MSU, Arizona, Kansas, UNLV and Maryland and doesn’t expect to decide on one until late February."

Didn't JJ already cut his list down to 2?
Writer not aware of latest info my guess, therefore grain of salt rule applies.

JJ's camp had to walk back that report. Apparently the writer took some liberties with what JJ said, or at least interpreted things in a way they would have rathered he hadn't.

In truth, there is a leader in his recruitment. A lot would have to happen for that to change. But JJ and his mom are being smart right now and not shutting the door on any opportunities.

I'm not trying to be argumentative here, butI don't get quite get this. If you're a good high school basketball player looking for the right "fit" then I guess it would make sense. But JJ seems like he would absolutely start at any program in the country next season, regardless of where he goes. Any school would welcome him with open arms, no? What exactly would have to happen for the current leader to no longer be his school of choice? Does the leader in his recruitment know they're the leader and also know that as long as things don't change then he's going to commit to that school in February?

Why tip his hand? When he's ready, the school he picks will welcome him with open arms. He doesn't gain anything by pointing in a particular direction.

It would help us fans who are salivating to know, but JJ stands to gain nothing. When he decides, that school will roll out the red carpet and fall madly in love.

Oooo baby, discussion's getting so funky!

Get up, get up, get up, get up!
Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up!
Oh, baby now let's get down tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjlSiASsUIs" target="_blank

carolinacat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

HiCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:Miller in Michigan to watch Jackson:

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf ... ry_package" target="_blank

MSU in "Full Court Press" for Jackson

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle ... /77995278/" target="_blank

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf ... idges.html" target="_blank

At least Jacksons mom isn't a copy of Ivan Rabbs mother........she wouldn't even discuss his recruitment. That gives me some hope that MSU isn't a slam dunk.

"He said he is still considering MSU, Arizona, Kansas, UNLV and Maryland and doesn’t expect to decide on one until late February."

Didn't JJ already cut his list down to 2?
Writer not aware of latest info my guess, therefore grain of salt rule applies.

JJ's camp had to walk back that report. Apparently the writer took some liberties with what JJ said, or at least interpreted things in a way they would have rathered he hadn't.

In truth, there is a leader in his recruitment. A lot would have to happen for that to change. But JJ and his mom are being smart right now and not shutting the door on any opportunities.

I'm not trying to be argumentative here, butI don't get quite get this. If you're a good high school basketball player looking for the right "fit" then I guess it would make sense. But JJ seems like he would absolutely start at any program in the country next season, regardless of where he goes. Any school would welcome him with open arms, no? What exactly would have to happen for the current leader to no longer be his school of choice? Does the leader in his recruitment know they're the leader and also know that as long as things don't change then he's going to commit to that school in February?

I think it's smart to wait because any number of things can happen at the schools he's considering. Keeping his recruitment open means he gets to take his visits, and make sure that the program he chooses is heading in the right direction and that there isn't a clearly better choice for him out there. As Spaceman points out, he gains nothing by signing early or announcing.

Well yeah i might have chased a couple dumb tweets around
All it ever got me was down
Then there were those that made me feel good
But never as good as I'm feeling right now
JJ you're the only one that's ever known how
To make me wanna live like I wanna live now
I said yeah yeah
(Yeah, yeah)
Yeah yeah yeah yeah

The waiting is the hardest part
Every day stinks like a fart
You take it on faith, you take it to the heart
The waiting is the hardest part

hmmmm??

Dec 29, 2015, 11:32a
It was reported last week, apparently erroneously, that Jackson was down to a top two of Michigan State and Arizona. But Jackson says that isn't true.

"It's Michigan State, Arizona, Kansas, UNLV and Maryland," Jackson told Matt Wenzel of MLive.com.

http://www.testudotimes.com/maryland-te ... king-terps" target="_blank


http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basket ... igan-state" target="_blank

Changes everything.

gumby wrote:Changes everything.

Is that why '16 sg/sf Rawle Alkins added Arizona back to his final list of 10 schools?

Kidding. Just going to have to wait. Or, you could try to interpret every morsel.

DiehardDave37 wrote:

gumby wrote:Changes everything.

Is that why '16 sg/sf Rawle Alkins added Arizona back to his final list of 10 schools?

I would not read too much into it. JJ stands to gain nothing by cutting down his list. The smart move is to play it close to the vest and he and his mom seem to recognize that.

42%

Josh Jackson's Crystal Ball Predictions

Arizona 42%
Michigan State 26%
Kansas 21%
Foggy 11%


http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/ ... redictions" target="_blank

...

Preach

97cats wrote:that seems low

Hopefully you're not talking about MSU's number.

im not

97cats wrote:that seems low

Off by 58.

gumby wrote:

97cats wrote:that seems low

Off by 58.

Fuckin' Common Core....

97, what's with you Katzenfreund-ing your posts here and elsewhere?

Look up.

Chicat wrote:

HiCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:Miller in Michigan to watch Jackson:

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf ... ry_package" target="_blank

MSU in "Full Court Press" for Jackson

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle ... /77995278/" target="_blank

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf ... idges.html" target="_blank

At least Jacksons mom isn't a copy of Ivan Rabbs mother........she wouldn't even discuss his recruitment. That gives me some hope that MSU isn't a slam dunk.

"He said he is still considering MSU, Arizona, Kansas, UNLV and Maryland and doesn’t expect to decide on one until late February."

Didn't JJ already cut his list down to 2?
Writer not aware of latest info my guess, therefore grain of salt rule applies.

JJ's camp had to walk back that report. Apparently the writer took some liberties with what JJ said, or at least interpreted things in a way they would have rathered he hadn't.

In truth, there is a leader in his recruitment. A lot would have to happen for that to change. But JJ and his mom are being smart right now and not shutting the door on any opportunities.

Jerry Meyer - Jan 7, 12:14 AM
Josh Jackson, the No. 1 ranked prospect in the 247Sports Composite, will official visit Kansas on January 22.

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Josh-Jackson- ... t-42617579" target="_blank

Surprised that there haven't been some new KU crystal ball predictions based on this astounding news.

84Cat wrote:

Simmons is too but no Alkins??

3goggles wrote:

84Cat wrote:

Simmons is too but no Alkins??

I think because he went to prep school.

Complete list

UAEebs86 wrote:

3goggles wrote:

84Cat wrote:

Simmons is too but no Alkins??

I think because he went to prep school.

Yep.

Alkins is in the same situation as Tarc was -- 5th year players aren't invite to McD game.

Puerco wrote:Alkins is in the same situation as Tarc was -- 5th year players aren't invite to McD game.

Shakur was... But that was a while ago.

Huh. Didn't know that. But to be fair the first I'd ever heard of the rule was when it got applied to Tarc.

Harvey Specter wrote:

Puerco wrote:Alkins is in the same situation as Tarc was -- 5th year players aren't invite to McD game.

Shakur was... But that was a while ago.

Hmm. I don't remember Shakur being a 5th year guy? Wasn't he a high school POTY right before he started at Arizona?

Shakur was went to Friends HS in Philly, and was the number 2 ranked PG after Chris Paul.

But looking it up, Rivals has them at 3 and 4.

#1
Shannon Brown
G
Maywood, IL
Proviso East
5 stars
6'4"
185
Michigan St.
#2
Andrew Lavender
G
Columbus, OH
Brookhaven
4 stars
5'7"
155
Oklahoma
#3
Chris Paul
G
Winston-Salem, NC
5 stars
6'1"
165
Wake Forest
#4
Mustafa Shakur
G
Philadelphia, PA
Friends Central
5 stars
6'3"
175
Arizona

Shakur was originally a member of the previous class and was a 100-120ish type recruit who I am pretty sure had verbally committed to one of the local schools (Temple, I think?).

He re-classified to the following year, his recruitment opened, and the rest is history. (That 2003 class was considered weak at the PG spot)

http://www.scout.com/college/north-caro ... afa-shakur" target="_blank

Pore through the attached link:

"7/05/01- Shakur is going to repeat his junior year at Friends Central next year. Lightning quick with great change of direction and a devestating cross-over dribble. Has no problem getting by the first defender and penetrating the lane. Good size. Not a consistent jump shooter. He's still maturing, and his decision making at the point needs refinement. He commits too many turnovers and tends to play too fast. St. Josephs has already offered, but he is getting interest from all of the other Philly schools along with Providence, Siena, Florida St. and Western Kentucky"

"5/11/02- Reclassified as a 2003 prospect."

Played against Lavender in high school and that dude was filthy.

http://tucson.com/sports/blogs/pascoe/e ... ae906.html" target="_blank

Lavender appears to be up to some interesting work...

Different Lavender.

Uh, is this even legal?

"The campus is really nice. Lawrence is a great college town. Everybody love KU whether they went there or not. I had a really good time," Jackson said. "I want to major in communications. They sold me a lot on that program. Coach Self said he would make sure I have an internship," Jackson added.

http://247sports.com/Article/Josh-Jacks ... s-43167157

Puerco wrote:Uh, is this even legal?

"The campus is really nice. Lawrence is a great college town. Everybody love KU whether they went there or not. I had a really good time," Jackson said. "I want to major in communications. They sold me a lot on that program. Coach Self said he would make sure I have an internship," Jackson added.

http://247sports.com/Article/Josh-Jacks ... s-43167157

If he wants to be an ESPN analyst then he should come to AZ. How many do we have out there now on ESPN? 3?

If JJ is a sure fire one and done, what difference does it make academically? I mean really, most freshman courses are foundational. I could see a major being an important factor during college selection if this player was looking at earning a degree. And maybe he will after he's gone on to pro ball. He'll have plenty of doors open for him for communication regardless of the school.

Puerco wrote:Uh, is this even legal?

"The campus is really nice. Lawrence is a great college town. Everybody love KU whether they went there or not. I had a really good time," Jackson said. "I want to major in communications. They sold me a lot on that program. Coach Self said he would make sure I have an internship," Jackson added.

http://247sports.com/Article/Josh-Jacks ... s-43167157

Only if every other non athlete is allowed the same chance to get one.

whatisee wrote:

Puerco wrote:Uh, is this even legal?

"The campus is really nice. Lawrence is a great college town. Everybody love KU whether they went there or not. I had a really good time," Jackson said. "I want to major in communications. They sold me a lot on that program. Coach Self said he would make sure I have an internship," Jackson added.

http://247sports.com/Article/Josh-Jacks ... s-43167157

If he wants to be an ESPN analyst then he should come to AZ. How many do we have out there now on ESPN? 3?

Miles
Bruschi
Pierce
Tolbert

Kerr did TV for a bit, right? Francona too?

But fuck the future. I've got two words for you kid.....

Reverse Oreo

Muehlebach.
Cory Williams did some TV & radio as well I believe.

I fully expect to see Damon Stoudamire and Richard Jefferson on the Deuce before this decade is out. Luke Walton too, if his dad can ever let go.

Is Sean Elliott on Fox Sports only?

catgrad97 wrote:I fully expect to see Damon Stoudamire and Richard Jefferson on the Deuce before this decade is out. Luke Walton too, if his dad can ever let go.

Is Sean Elliott on Fox Sports only?

I think Elliott is doing color for the Spurs as well.

Puerco wrote:Uh, is this even legal?

"The campus is really nice. Lawrence is a great college town. Everybody love KU whether they went there or not. I had a really good time," Jackson said. "I want to major in communications. They sold me a lot on that program. Coach Self said he would make sure I have an internship," Jackson added.

http://247sports.com/Article/Josh-Jacks ... s-43167157

He could become the most powerful journalist in Wichita one day with Self behind him. Based off recent draft history, KU players need to place a major emphasis on life after basketball.

Internship? He's going to be in college for nine months.

gumby wrote:Internship? He's going to be in college for nine months.

If he even goes to college.

gumby wrote:Internship? He's going to be in college for nine months.

i'm pretty sure self could regress his development for at least a couple of seasons...

catgrad97 wrote:I fully expect to see Damon Stoudamire and Richard Jefferson on the Deuce before this decade is out. Luke Walton too, if his dad can ever let go.

Is Sean Elliott on Fox Sports only?

Channing Frye has a great TV presence, even when he a student. Just very comfortable in front of the camera.

Good call on Frye, Merkin. Really should've been a franchise player in Phoenix, if Suns ownership gave a damn, but they don't.

dirtbags wrote:

gumby wrote:Internship? He's going to be in college for nine months.

i'm pretty sure self could regress his development for at least a couple of seasons...

He can put him on the Wayne Selden plan.