Bear Down Wildcats

Postmaster wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:16 pm Oh, so remember him.
What was his s screen name?

Think it was KAbbey or something very similar.

Merkin wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:34 pm

Postmaster wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:16 pm Oh, so remember him.
What was his s screen name?

Think it was KAbbey or something very similar.

Same as his Twitter handle - kabbey520

https://www.beardownwildcats.com/member ... le&u=35557


He posts a lot at Scheer's site. He made a comment once that makes me think he doesn't even remember this site lol.

And it starts. Although this has been going on for decades.

Having a NFL play caller worked out well for Arizona last season. Even though I don't know if he has any desire to coach in college with all the rules and recruiting hassles.

Merkin wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:34 pm

Postmaster wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:16 pm Oh, so remember him.
What was his s screen name?

Think it was KAbbey or something very similar.

I'm do recall Kabbey. But I was actually thinking of LegallyKenny.
Kabbey makes me think of Krabby Patties.

Merkin wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:16 pm I generally find CBB's pressers to be excruciatingly boring and predictable, but it will be interesting tomorrow.

Few thoughts:

1. If BB thinks he is going to be fired he knows the AD can get the $$$ to do so. Can't have the former without the latter. Not at the amount of the buyout, even with a negotiated settlement. Which means: if BB thinks he is going to get fired he knows someone(s) have stepped up to the plate.

2. Pretty sure Luke gets everything from Scheer. Number1, I have been told that, more than once. And, number 2, there were a couple times on their site where I alluded to the fact that I knew some things, Jason swore secrecy thru PM's for me to tell him, and Luke posted the same stuff some time later. Including one instance where I was one of like 2-3 people on the planet that knew what he posted.

3. Morales' idea wouldn't make a hill of beans worth of difference.

It's over.

Brennan has already lost the "average" UA fan, if my son and I are any indication. We didn't even bother to watch ANY of the last game, after turning off the previous one before halftime. Home crowds will be really pathetic the rest of the year. If there is any way possible to get rid of him, it needs to be done as soon as possible. If the money is there, they need to do it now.

Winger wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:29 pm It's over.

Today is a good day to read that. Only one thing can make it better, but will leave that to the lower boards.

BBQ wildcat wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:56 pm Brennan has already lost the "average" UA fan, if my son and I are any indication.

Same. Even forgot about the UCF game, and only caught the Hail Mary end of the first half when I finally remembered, but did watch the rest of it. Just hoping to see some new blood out there. Let some of the scrub QBs get some minutes. Look how many walk-ons got into the MBB game yesterday and even scored!

Was unclear about what Winger was telling us about it being over. He said he can’t be gone unless the AD can get the money but didn’t hint that she had it? Or did he?

I thought he meant that there is no way to salvage this. Not necessarily that the AD has the money.
But, that is just my guess.

Just my personal tangential comment this morning:

IMNSHO, sports are 1) entertainment, and 2) welcome and intended distraction from life's difficulties.

That given, I don't give a damn about U of A's football program issues this morning. Please excuse me.

azcat49 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:38 pm Was unclear about what Winger was telling us about it being over. He said he can’t be gone unless the AD can get the money but didn’t hint that she had it? Or did he?

Apologies for me posting opaquely.

Posted a couple pages back "it's over". Intent being: imo this has gone so poorly Brennan at Arizona can't/won't be successful. With the implication being: a personal preference to move on now so, selfishly, I have a favorite football team to be invested in and root for again asap.

Then some quotes and a pic from Scheer/Luke posted above hinting that Brennan's tenure at Arizona could be over soon/end of this season.

Then more conjecture from me that if, as Scheer implies, Brennan knows he is done soon or after this season; he must know the AD can get the money (partly because the amount of money is large, Arizona is under financial pressure, and the AD "owes" the University around $85 mil as is).

I had a bit in there that I should know more by Saturday and will post it here if I can. But I edited that out for a couple reasons: 1) it felt braggy when I read it and 2) my entire post read to me like something Chief would have authored and, no offense Chief, Arizona fans don't like how Chief posts.

Mantras and catch phrases are my thing as an aside. I will continually post them until the subject dies. "The Weardown", "Miller DAO", "No Mas", "ESPNFBIGate", "its over", etc.

I know it's over. I don't know for sure if it will be over soon or by the end of the ASU game. But one way or another it's over.

Make sense?

I know that last bit doesn't make sense. I was trying to be funny.

Winger wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:51 am

azcat49 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:38 pm Was unclear about what Winger was telling us about it being over. He said he can’t be gone unless the AD can get the money but didn’t hint that she had it? Or did he?

Apologies for me posting opaquely.

Posted a couple pages back "it's over". Intent being: imo this has gone so poorly Brennan at Arizona can't/won't be successful. With the implication being: a personal preference to move on now so, selfishly, I have a favorite football team to be invested in and root for again asap.

Then some quotes and a pic from Scheer/Luke posted above hinting that Brennan's tenure at Arizona could be over soon/end of this season.

Then more conjecture from me that if, as Scheer implies, Brennan knows he is done soon or after this season; he must know the AD can get the money (partly because the amount of money is large, Arizona is under financial pressure, and the AD "owes" the University around $85 mil as is).

I had a bit in there that I should know more by Saturday and will post it here if I can. But I edited that out for a couple reasons: 1) it felt braggy when I read it and 2) my entire post read to me like something Chief would have authored and, no offense Chief, Arizona fans don't like how Chief posts.

Mantras and catch phrases are my thing as an aside. I will continually post them until the subject dies. "The Weardown", "Miller DAO", "No Mas", "ESPNFBIGate", "its over", etc.

I know it's over. I don't know for sure if it will be over soon or by the end of the ASU game. But one way or another it's over.

Make sense?

I know that last bit doesn't make sense. I was trying to be funny.

Yeah it's over. I mean you either do it now or you're guaranteeing him another 2 years. Firing him next year is pointless, it only saves like $2 million, and that's meaningless. The boosters are out on him, the admin is out on him, the community is out on him. The man had tons of goodwill entering this season and proceeded to drop a nuke on all of it in just a matter of 2 months. It's truly crazy how bad this has been.

It's hard to believe this thing could go so far south over the course of 5 games. You start out with a couple of gimmees, shrug off a bad non-conference loss at what some thought might be the best team in the Big XII, get a win at what was (incorrectly) thought to be a good Utah team, and while not impressive, there's no deal-breaker there. Then, you take for granted Texas Tech, add four more losses after that, and stack up the injuries, a regressing offense, a defense that can't tackle, poor special teams, and other problems with fundamentals. And the reaction to a season (and program) blowing up is blandness and coach-speak platitudes. From a guy whose mentor talked about football in terms of playing like your hair's on fire. I agree with those who say he was a desperation January hire by a lame-duck administration, and it's hard to see it ever turning around: Ben Lindsey Jr. Easy to say, and there are state-level political issues with the financial optics, but sometimes you just have to cut your losses despite people grumbling and taking their usual pot-shots.

If I had to guess I think we're at 50/50 Brennan returns next year.

I got a sense early on that something was off with our leadership. Actually after the first couple of games. We did not look like a well coached team at all. I got some serious criticism from fans who thought I was being too hard on Brennan. Outside some of the obvious stuff that seasoned football fans noticed, he reminded me of someone that I couldn't quite put my finger on. Once I realized who it was, alarm bells immediately went off. And from that point I realized that the program's in a lot of trouble. Of course I had rational arguments for why I felt we needed to get rid of him, but the biggest ones I see are character flaws that are apparent to individuals who have dealt with people like Brennan.

Chronic underachievers/under performers speak a special language. They use several tools to disarm the uninitiated. They speak in excuses, false/weak promises and deflections. They also have delusions of grandeur. They think they're better than what they are. That's why when you watch his pressers it seems repetitive without any sense of self awareness, urgency or understanding of team dynamics. There's no improvement, and you come away with the feeling that the coach is disengaged in a major way. Even passive fans are recognizing this. That's why the Texas Tech coach immediately recognized what kind of coach Brennan was and proceeded to humiliate us on our home field. There's a hollowness, an overall sense of vacuous thinking that you're left with when you hear him speak. And you see the results of that on the field.

In my humble opinion (and my radar is rarely off in this area), Brennan's appears to be a clout chaser who has enablers who don't speak the truth. If he did, he would have never taken the job. The conversation with Heeke should have went like, "Hey Dave, I appreciate the consideration. But I'm not your guy. Jedd did a remarkable job and you need someone who's got a lot of juice to come in and take over or rebuild. I know of some guys who might be a good fit, but you need to find someone who can really get things going." There's nothing in Brennan's character, intelligence or football background that would suggest that he is anywhere near Fisch's level. Or RichRod's level for that matter. He's a low self monitor, and he's pretty comfortable being that way. In order to be great at high major football, you have to have more than one frame of reference when it comes to coaching. Fisch studied under Spurrier, Harbaugh, Mora, etc., and that's at the D1 level. We're not even talking about his experience at the pro level. People like Brennan love the perks of the job, the gravitas, the platform that it gives him. But when it comes to accountability? Radio silence. It's why its hilarious when people suggest that he just employ Fisch's system with the players. If he could adapt seamlessly, he wouldn't have been stuck at SJSU. And besides, all coaches have an ego and believe their system works best. People like him say what they need to say to get in the door and do an end around and use the system they wanted to use all along. Which goes to my previous post when I said that Brennan is acting in bad faith.

Chicat made a point in an earlier post that was excellent (wish I'd thought of it). Brennan apologists point to the fact that we lost a lot of talent. This year has been a showcase for coaches that have succeeded without highly rated players. Look at the service schools like Army/Navy which has extremely limited resources. Indiana was in legit rebuild mode and now they're top 10, Texas A&M is performing beyond expectations as well. If you have coaching talent, it will be readily apparent within the first couple of games. You can't use the rebuild playbook from 1999. It's a whole different world now. But I wasn't surprised that Brennan basically said that we don't have talent and they we need to get up to the level of the Big 12. I fully expected him to say that. Guys like him who can't get the job done will do a controlled demolition of the team, and declare that the talent wasn't there to begin with. That way, by saying that he inherited post Sumlin 2.0, he should be given money, time and latitude to waste our time and money even further. He wants to move the goal post and deflect attention from his poor organizational management and coaching. Again, bad faith.

Brennan took the job because it released him from mid major purgatory. Really didn't care about the collateral damage. His hope is that he can kick the can down the road (deflections, promises, excuses) and that we will foolishly give him more time only to have a lucky 7-5 season (in year 3) in which he will demand an extension. Any respectable coach in P4 football would have fired people by now and would be poised to make wholesale changes in the off-season. You hear any of that from Brennan? Let me be clear, Brennan is not qualified to make that assessment about our team's talent level. He's never had a consistent winner, and was fledgling when he came here. In fact, SJSU's new coach is debunking the myth right now that Brennan was doing more with less. Brennan's doubling down and saying that 'I'm in charge, I know what's best, and I get the paychecks.' He plays like he's a nice guy (which he's not) but is really a tyrant. Arrogance and incompetence are lethal when combined.

Brennan won the Powerball. And we all know the tragedies that can happen to people that obtain things that they didn’t earn. I didn't intend to do a whole op-ed. But it needs to be made clear that Brennan has made his bed. It's up to DRF to save us from this madness.

TheCatInTheHat wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:25 pm From a guy whose mentor talked about football in terms of playing like your hair's on fire.

Greg Hansen was friends with Tomey. Think they played golf and tennis. I recall one his articles regarding how extremely competitive Tomey was, and how it really showed when Tomey played softball.

Don't see that competitive fire with Brennan. Just a nice guy CEO who wears a lei even though it makes him look dorky. This isn't UH.

RawleArenas wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:56 pm and that we will foolishly give him more time only to have a lucky 7-5 season (in year 3) in which he will demand an extension.

For years, a lot of football posters here and at TOS were saying that you need to keep football coaches' contracts out 5 years on a continual basis, so a recruit knows that that the coach that recruited them will be there for their senior seasons.

But now with NIL, no more NLI, and unlimited transfers, does it really matter any more? Maybe for 2 stars who are lucky to play P4 football.

Superb op-ed RawleArenas!

If the money is there now, there really isn't any reason to keep him even to the end of the season.

BBQ wildcat wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:27 pm If the money is there now, there really isn't any reason to keep him even to the end of the season.

Agree, start the search now, but I imagine DRF has already started making phone calls to agents.

I appreciate your taking the time to write that Rawle Arenas, but I must say I'm skeptical that all the character assassination was warranted or correct.

Being unsuccessful at leading our program doesnt necessarily make Brennan a bad guy.

Just sayin

Did I hear that Tempe Normal just rolled all of their AD debt into the general fund?

Winger wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:51 am

azcat49 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:38 pm Was unclear about what Winger was telling us about it being over. He said he can’t be gone unless the AD can get the money but didn’t hint that she had it? Or did he?

Apologies for me posting opaquely.

Posted a couple pages back "it's over". Intent being: imo this has gone so poorly Brennan at Arizona can't/won't be successful. With the implication being: a personal preference to move on now so, selfishly, I have a favorite football team to be invested in and root for again asap.

Then some quotes and a pic from Scheer/Luke posted above hinting that Brennan's tenure at Arizona could be over soon/end of this season.

Then more conjecture from me that if, as Scheer implies, Brennan knows he is done soon or after this season; he must know the AD can get the money (partly because the amount of money is large, Arizona is under financial pressure, and the AD "owes" the University around $85 mil as is).

I had a bit in there that I should know more by Saturday and will post it here if I can. But I edited that out for a couple reasons: 1) it felt braggy when I read it and 2) my entire post read to me like something Chief would have authored and, no offense Chief, Arizona fans don't like how Chief posts.

Mantras and catch phrases are my thing as an aside. I will continually post them until the subject dies. "The Weardown", "Miller DAO", "No Mas", "ESPNFBIGate", "its over", etc.

I know it's over. I don't know for sure if it will be over soon or by the end of the ASU game. But one way or another it's over.

Make sense?

I know that last bit doesn't make sense. I was trying to be funny.

Not all Brennan related (see the 2nd Red-Blue game cancelled, which was a joke to begin with), but the firing of Learfield seems to have left a void in everything that is marketing. It's no surprise to see someone like Brennan, who has absolutely no desire to market and sell the program, losing the common fan in less than 9 months.

Hard for me to be objective on Learfield. Too many close ties. Maybe DRF will get it handled in the end. What I have heard however is that things are off to a very rough start. My personal experience with the new Arizona AD is limited but would support that observation. I don’t know what BB’s rep is with Arizona Fan at large but he has lost me and all of my cohort.

The team, God bless the players, has been absolutely terrible for the entire season. They have played terrible, looked terrible, and you can see the lack of quality coaching everywhere. This has been worse to date than Sumlin’s 1st season, though there are some striking similarities, and we all know how that turned out.

It’s over.

From 10,000 feet I don’t think it can be 50/50 for Brennan’s return. It’s 100 or 0. DRF will either have/find the money or she won’t. I can’t believe that she is on the fence and this position is too important to both the near-term and long-term future of the AD.

Arizona underperforms say the next 2 seasons and gets left out of the Superleague and we’re a mid-major from there on out.

azgreg wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:35 pm If I had to guess I think we're at 50/50 Brennan returns next year.

I'd say you have about a 50% chance of being correct

I just don’t know how you can give a guy whose team has looked this inept another season, especially in this environment where your team can get completely gutted or completely rejuvenated in the course of a single offseason.

If you don’t fire Brennan you are giving the sharks an invite to the buffet table to tear the flesh off our carcass. Think the talent level is low now? Give Brennan another year. We’ll be lucky to have mid-major level starters.

Alieberman wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:40 am

azgreg wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:35 pm If I had to guess I think we're at 50/50 Brennan returns next year.

I'd say you have about a 50% chance of being correct

Winger wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:36 am Hard for me to be objective on Learfield. Too many close ties. Maybe DRF will get it handled in the end. What I have heard however is that things are off to a very rough start. My personal experience with the new Arizona AD is limited but would support that observation. I don’t know what BB’s rep is with Arizona Fan at large but he has lost me and all of my cohort.

The team, God bless the players, has been absolutely terrible for the entire season. They have played terrible, looked terrible, and you can see the lack of quality coaching everywhere. This has been worse to date than Sumlin’s 1st season, though there are some striking similarities, and we all know how that turned out.

It’s over.

From 10,000 feet I don’t think it can be 50/50 for Brennan’s return. It’s 100 or 0. DRF will either have/find the money or she won’t. I can’t believe that she is on the fence and this position is too important to both the near-term and long-term future of the AD.

Arizona underperforms say the next 2 seasons and gets left out of the Superleague and we’re a mid-major from there on out.

I said 50/50 because I'm not convinced she's convinced any boosters to pony up the money.

It's tough. In addition to convincing the biggest boosters to dig deep again over the latest screw-up, she has to deal with a boss who was brought in specifically to deal with Robbins' financial sloppiness and excesses, likely by making cuts. And they would likely face headwinds from the ABOR, Governor, and state legislature, none of whom are particularly Wildcat fans. You can say it's all booster money and shouldn't matter, and those groups might not be in a position to specifically dictate terms. But early in his tenure, Suresh Garimella wouldn't seem likely to want to risk drawing their ire, considering levels of appropriations could be impacted over some Mel Brooks cigar type spinning his watch and making speeches about actions that "smack of yet more fiscal irresponsibility."

I have certainly not been happy with the results so far and agree that winning is the best recruiting tool but I think this talk is premature at best. Last year Jedd had won 2 more games than this coach (with a better team) and lost to a coach in Miss. who was fired immediately after the season. Had our qb not been injured I would argue that we would have ended the season with 7 wins (at most). While everyone on here is unsatisfied are we going to fire a coach before he has even gone through a recruiting cycle? What message does that send his potential replacement?

Losing doesn't get you fired as much as having a great season that you can't replicate. See the temperature after the Penn ST game where the previous year was outstanding. Tomey was never viewed the same.

I personally think we over achieved last year and I think some of that had to do with coaching but mainly a down year in the league and catching fire. OK would have beaten us in the bowl if they had a qb that wasn't just a joke. I am convinced that the only thing that would even possibly lead to CBB termination would be a 50 pt loss to ASU. Hopefully that doesn't happen.

I'm unhappy but realistic about our current coaching and financial situation.

TheCat wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:49 pm Losing doesn't get you fired as much as having a great season that you can't replicate. See the temperature after the Penn ST game where the previous year was outstanding. Tomey was never viewed the same.

Sadly, the TV announcers during the UCF game had to bring up that Pigskin Classic game. Think it was the last eastern time slot game the UA had?

But Tomey did it to himself, he felt that they didn't need to recruit anymore, since the UA could recruit itself after that prior season. So he didn't have enough players and stopped tackling practice to keep the players healthy.

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Six teams in the inaugural 2024 College Football Playoff rankings are lower on the 247 Sports Team Talent Composite than Arizona. BYU and Kansas State who both blew out Arizona earlier in the 2024 season highlight the teams ranked lower than Arizona in the 2024 Team Talent Composite Rankings.

Arizona is 56th in the 2024 Team Talent Composite Rankings. BYU is 78th in the 2024 Team Talent Composite Rankings and Kansas State is 64th. The other four teams below Arizona in the Team Talent Composite Rankings are Indiana 57th, Iowa State 68th, Washington State 75th and Boise State 76th.

I like CBB as a person, and I like how he made efforts to bring back traditions from Tomey, genuine or not I like it.

But CFB landscape has changed drastically. The slow and patient program builder are rarer now. That's why Saban retired.

I think the coaching staff failed in 1. Manage the new college sports rules. 2. Have a winning scheme. 3. Identify talents.

1. With the new transfer portal rule and existing talent level we had, there's no reason to demand fans to have patience. That's the part I don't get "real fans" asking for patience. You either adapt to the new rules or you retire/stay in small time schools.
I was kind of excited when they hired Gaizka Crowley as GM, and supposedly he's very smart. Well.. The result is meh..

2. On schemes. I remembered during Ficsh's first year, Berryhill's dad was on twitter saying that "you cannot win games with sub-par talents with pro schemes" Well, we were bad in that first year, but we generally know what the coaches want. Pro style offense with work-horse RBs on O, space eaters on DL etc. It's probably on Babers but our offense is very uninspiring. Some plays Atkins called gives you hope, but you should do better with our O.

3. On identifying talents. T-mac is coveted national recruit, we cannot rely on getting every year. But we also have low 3 star Big Jonah (when comitted), no offer Moe, 3 stars Tacario, and Coleman. All very talented players. What new players the staff brought in is any good? We heard many things on Reymello and patterson. None of them can play. The OL transfers we brought in scores 12 on PFF passing grades. Conley is very pedestrian, yet is "co-starting" with JCM. Not mentioning Sam Olson gets more reps than Burnett. I know injuries are a factor, but the talents they brought in aare very underwhelming.

Abrahamarvel wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:12 pm I like CBB as a person, and I like how he made efforts to bring back traditions from Tomey, genuine or not I like it.

But CFB landscape has changed drastically. The slow and patient program builder are rarer now. That's why Saban retired.

I think the coaching staff failed in 1. Manage the new college sports rules. 2. Have a winning scheme. 3. Identify talents.

1. With the new transfer portal rule and existing talent level we had, there's no reason to demand fans to have patience. That's the part I don't get "real fans" asking for patience. You either adapt to the new rules or you retire/stay in small time schools.
I was kind of excited when they hired Gaizka Crowley as GM, and supposedly he's very smart. Well.. The result is meh..

2. On schemes. I remembered during Ficsh's first year, Berryhill's dad was on twitter saying that "you cannot win games with sub-par talents with pro schemes" Well, we were bad in that first year, but we generally know what the coaches want. Pro style offense with work-horse RBs on O, space eaters on DL etc. It's probably on Babers but our offense is very uninspiring. Some plays Atkins called gives you hope, but you should do better with our O.

3. On identifying talents. T-mac is coveted national recruit, we cannot rely on getting every year. But we also have low 3 star Big Jonah (when comitted), no offer Moe, 3 stars Tacario, and Coleman. All very talented players. What new players the staff brought in is any good? We heard many things on Reymello and patterson. None of them can play. The OL transfers we brought in scores 12 on PFF passing grades. Conley is very pedestrian, yet is "co-starting" with JCM. Not mentioning Sam Olson gets more reps than Burnett. I know injuries are a factor, but the talents they brought in aare very underwhelming.

With regards to #1 the following tweet is pretty much spot on.......and Brennan has no control over it:
Regarding #2 whatever scheme a coach runs is pretty much meaningless unless you have the talent (we didn't have much of that this year). At last count we were down to 7/22 players left from last years team (68% of the talent is gone)

Wit regards to #3 Brennan was hired after recruiting was pretty much over last year. He has not even had 1 full recruiting year yet.

It’s the year 2029.

Arizona is about to finish .500 in its inaugural season in the New Sun Belt Conference after having not been invited to the Super League due to the previous five years of mediocre results and waning fan interest.

Coach Brent Brennan starts his press conference opening remarks by acknowledging that he has let the fans down but that he’s determined to right the ship.

His comically oversized lei briefly gets tangled up with the mic causing a long high whine of feedback. He winces and chuckles sheepishly.

Arizona fans sob quietly to themselves hoping the sun would hurry up and engulf the earth in its fiery embrace.

Machina updates his bad fan list while dmjcat fires up BearDownWildcats.com to scold us for not having patience…

Chicat wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:44 am It’s the year 2029.

Arizona is about to finish .500 in its inaugural season in the New Sun Belt Conference after having not been invited to the Super League due to the previous five years of mediocre results and waning fan interest.

Coach Brent Brennan starts his press conference opening remarks by acknowledging that he has let the fans down but that he’s determined to right the ship.

His comically oversized lei briefly gets tangled up with the mic causing a long high whine of feedback. He winces and chuckles sheepishly.

Arizona fans sob quietly to themselves hoping the sun would hurry up and engulf the earth in its fiery embrace.

Machina updates his bad fan list while dmjcat fires up BearDownWildcats.com to scold us for not having patience…

Maybe Arizona will finally win a conference championship then in 2030!! What a celebration!!!

"Water seeks its own level"

TheCat wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:49 pm What message does that send his potential replacement?

That you have to do better than complete failure.

Chicat wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:44 am It’s the year 2029.

Arizona is about to finish .500 in its inaugural season in the New Sun Belt Conference after having not been invited to the Super League due to the previous five years of mediocre results and waning fan interest.

Coach Brent Brennan starts his press conference opening remarks by acknowledging that he has let the fans down but that he’s determined to right the ship.

His comically oversized lei briefly gets tangled up with the mic causing a long high whine of feedback. He winces and chuckles sheepishly.

Arizona fans sob quietly to themselves hoping the sun would hurry up and engulf the earth in its fiery embrace.

Machina updates his bad fan list while dmjcat fires up BearDownWildcats.com to scold us for not having patience…

Its 2024 and back to reality.

The UA is NOT going to get invited to any football Super League..........EVER. Regardless of who the coach is.

If you actually believe the UA is going to get invited to join the B1G or SEC then I suggest you book your reservation to:

Your boy is mediocre at best. Congrats on accepting that as our ceiling. You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t.

Here's where we stand

We aren't likely to score 3 touchdowns.

Loop is hitting 7 FGs!

Hell, he can't even hit extra points any more. Seems like everyone on the team has gotten worse under these coaches.

No context to this, but I can't help but think this might be about CBB... heard anything Choo?

It took Jebb 3 seasons to get good. I won't be surprised if CBB stays. I'll be a little surprised if they find the cash.

Until Jebb beat USC they were saying the same things about him at WA. CBB has lost the average fan so a change is certainly possible but understand both the perception and financial considerations. My advice to TMAC is to sit out the remainder games and start training for the combine. He has given us everything he has for 3 years and we don't have a Cowling to open him up for less double teams. Time for him to look to the future.

Postmaster wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:20 pm It took Jebb 3 seasons to get good.

I’m not saying anything people don’t know, but this is the problem with Arizona football.

Three years goes by. If he sucks, he sucks and is finally fired after three bad years.

If he’s good, we probably get one good year and he’s hired away.

But how do you create “lasting” “success”?

Fisch took over a team that was 0-5 and in the midst of a 15 game losing streak.

Brennan took over a team that was ranked 11th.

SCCats wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:41 am

Postmaster wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:20 pm It took Jebb 3 seasons to get good.

I’m not saying anything people don’t know, but this is the problem with Arizona football.

Three years goes by. If he sucks, he sucks and is finally fired after three bad years.

If he’s good, we probably get one good year and he’s hired away.

But how do you create “lasting” “success”?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Which allows you to retain a good coach and buy high quality players.

Unfortunately, the UA doesn't have the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Merkin wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:55 am Fisch took over a team that was 0-5 and in the midst of a 15 game losing streak.

Brennan took over a team that was ranked 11th.

They were ranked #11 at the end of last season........before we lost the Majority of the team to NIL & graduation.

dmjcat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:58 am

Merkin wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:55 am Fisch took over a team that was 0-5 and in the midst of a 15 game losing streak.

Brennan took over a team that was ranked 11th.

They were ranked #11 at the end of last season........before we lost the Majority of the team to NIL & graduation.

We did not lose the "majority of the team" to NIL & graduation. I mean good lord talk about trying to rewrite history to not make Brennan look bad. These aren't the droids you're looking for guys

Thus far, this seems to be the worst hire made by a school that hasn't been all that great at hiring football coaches. Brennan is losing games like Mackovic did and to mediocre teams to boot. If money was no issue, he would be gone at the end of the season. Now just becomes the waiting game until a new coach is hired.