Bear Down Wildcats

Dog this is going to be like watching all of the mafia families falling down. Good chance shoe companies and NCAA with it. Reminds me of the baseball/steroids shit on steroids, and the federal govt is more interested in people stealing from them (evading paying taxes) than public youth safety concerns of steroid use

Macho Grande wrote:Yeah, sounds like Pitino may have used up the last of his favors at louiville.

FBi strted putting eyes on this what, three years ago? When did the Louisville hooker stuff go down? Be nuts if they stumbled upon detailed evidence about that and other stuff during their investigations, since it was so recent and the involved parties were probably still doing their things.

CalStateTempe wrote:This is going to be worst then the lute retire meltdown thread.

He's the man I feel the worst for in this mess, regardless of the outcome.

A great man who built a legitimately great program. And now it all hangs in the balance.

Poor Coach O.

Where is World Wide Wes this evening.

HiCat wrote:Book needs to man up. Do the right thing.

?

Olsondogg wrote:

How much you think Trey got paid under the table? 20 ....... maybe 25 cents?

HiCat wrote:Book needs to man up. Do the right thing.

Ha! I wouldn't hold my breath on that ever happening.

HiCat wrote:Book needs to man up. Do the right thing.

Yup. Tell the truth.

what if I told you he (Coach Miller) knew the FEDS just might be comin??

Yeah my worry is that if anyone knows where the Miller bodies are buried, it's Book.

97cats wrote:what if I told you he (Coach Miller) knew the FEDS just might be comin??

I would expect an ESPN 30 for 30 to be coming up next.

97cats wrote:what if I told you he (Coach Miller) knew the FEDS just might be comin??

Neat. Plenty of time to flush evidence like Karen in Goodfellas

97cats wrote:what if I told you he (Coach Miller) knew the FEDS just might be comin??

Doesn't that make him an accessory to the crime if he didn't report anything?

SunnyAZ wrote:

97cats wrote:what if I told you he (Coach Miller) knew the FEDS just might be comin??

I would expect an ESPN 30 for 30 to be coming up next.

oh it will, but there is still so much more to be had before Barry Levinson takes on the project.

as the great Winger once said, "Stay Tuned."

Does that mean that Miller is innocent and knew this was going to happen and was working with the feds or does it mean that Miller knew the feds were coming after him because he was complicit and helping cover it up?

LBdCactus wrote:

97cats wrote:what if I told you he (Coach Miller) knew the FEDS just might be comin??

Doesn't that make him an accessory to the crime if he didn't report anything?

and who said he didn't report it?

LBdCactus wrote:

97cats wrote:what if I told you he (Coach Miller) knew the FEDS just might be comin??

Doesn't that make him an accessory to the crime if he didn't report anything?

Maybe Miller wore a wire in the last few coaches meetings. It's all possible today.

AZ with assist to clean up college ball recruiting. Miller is a witch

ASUHATER! wrote:Does that mean that Miller is innocent and knew this was going to happen and was working with the feds or does it mean that Miller knew the feds were coming after him because he was complicit and helping cover it up?

Death Penalty -- that was your cry, stay focused, and get some proof

97cats wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:Does that mean that Miller is innocent and knew this was going to happen and was working with the feds or does it mean that Miller knew the feds were coming after him because he was complicit and helping cover it up?

Death Penalty -- that was your cry, stay focused, and get some proof

You first!

azcat49 wrote:AZ with assist to clean up college ball recruiting. Miller is a witch

my man

ASUHATER! wrote:

97cats wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:Does that mean that Miller is innocent and knew this was going to happen and was working with the feds or does it mean that Miller knew the feds were coming after him because he was complicit and helping cover it up?

Death Penalty -- that was your cry, stay focused, and get some proof

You first!

such a Ding Dong

97cats wrote:

LBdCactus wrote:

97cats wrote:what if I told you he (Coach Miller) knew the FEDS just might be comin??

Doesn't that make him an accessory to the crime if he didn't report anything?

and who said he didn't report it?

This would be the absolute dream scenario. Unfortunately the cynic in me thinks if that were the case Book would not have held the job the past 3 years. Hope I'm wrong.

97cats wrote:

LBdCactus wrote:

97cats wrote:what if I told you he (Coach Miller) knew the FEDS just might be comin??

Doesn't that make him an accessory to the crime if he didn't report anything?

and who said he didn't report it?

That would pretty much take care of serious NCAA repercussions and a whole lot else.

LBdCactus wrote:

97cats wrote:

LBdCactus wrote:

97cats wrote:what if I told you he (Coach Miller) knew the FEDS just might be comin??

Doesn't that make him an accessory to the crime if he didn't report anything?

and who said he didn't report it?

This would be the absolute dream scenario. Unfortunately the cynic in me thinks if that were the case Book would not have held the job the past 3 years. Hope I'm wrong.

follow the time line, it's important

97cats wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:

97cats wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:Does that mean that Miller is innocent and knew this was going to happen and was working with the feds or does it mean that Miller knew the feds were coming after him because he was complicit and helping cover it up?

Death Penalty -- that was your cry, stay focused, and get some proof

You first!

such a Ding Dong

I mean you're in the same boat as me without providing proof...just throwing out internet posts and speculating. When the news first broke of this who wouldn't have the words "death penalty" flash in front of their eyes? Everyone on this board did.

Ding dong = hater

So who's the paid player on the roster

azcat49 wrote:AZ with assist to clean up college ball recruiting. Miller is a witch

Taking down his boy Calipari's main regional rival in the process?

Too perfect for a movie script...

ASUHATER! wrote:

97cats wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:

97cats wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:Does that mean that Miller is innocent and knew this was going to happen and was working with the feds or does it mean that Miller knew the feds were coming after him because he was complicit and helping cover it up?

Death Penalty -- that was your cry, stay focused, and get some proof

You first!

such a Ding Dong

I mean you're in the same boat as me without providing proof...just throwing out internet posts and speculating. When the news first broke of this who wouldn't have the words "death penalty" flash in front of their eyes? Everyone on this board did.

Just the chicken littles.

Of all posters on this board, I think 97 has shown to be the least needing of proof on anything

Timeline? Book was busted 3 years ago, had a mini suspension, then struck a deal to be an informant for the feds? Hmmm? #Homeland

prh wrote:Of all posters on this board, I think 97 has shown to be the least needing of proof on anything

That doesn't remotely matter in something this size. I'm not saying he's wrong, I'm not saying he's right, I'm not saying any of our theories and posts are wrong or right.

97cats wrote:

LBdCactus wrote:

97cats wrote:

LBdCactus wrote:

97cats wrote:what if I told you he (Coach Miller) knew the FEDS just might be comin??

Doesn't that make him an accessory to the crime if he didn't report anything?

and who said he didn't report it?

This would be the absolute dream scenario. Unfortunately the cynic in me thinks if that were the case Book would not have held the job the past 3 years. Hope I'm wrong.

follow the time line, it's important

Timeline:

Me yesterday: I hope we have enough room for Bol, Shittu, Lee, Jeter and Shareef down low.

Me today: I hope we only get a one year postseason ban and don't decimate recruiting.

Bosy Billups wrote:Timeline? Book was busted 3 years ago, had a mini suspension, then struck a deal to be an informant for the feds? Hmmm? #Homeland

Look at the timeline for when THIS investigation involved Richardson -- much tighter ...it's all in black and white.

ASUHATER! wrote:

prh wrote:Of all posters on this board, I think 97 has shown to be the least needing of proof on anything

That doesn't remotely matter in something this size. I'm not saying he's wrong, I'm not saying he's right, I'm not saying any of our theories and posts are wrong or right.

per usual, I'm drawing the line in the sand with you and no longer will reapond to your nonsensical posts any longer, this will be the final time in this thread.

there is a difference between theories and information, I have it, you don't.

97cats wrote:

Bosy Billups wrote:Timeline? Book was busted 3 years ago, had a mini suspension, then struck a deal to be an informant for the feds? Hmmm? #Homeland

Look at the timeline for when THIS investigation involved Richardson -- much tighter ...it's all in black and white.

For such a big event, can you just spell it out? Would be good to get the truth out sooner rather than later

Paternack leaves...Romar hired...all around the same time as the Feds start up with us.

97cats wrote:

Bosy Billups wrote:Timeline? Book was busted 3 years ago, had a mini suspension, then struck a deal to be an informant for the feds? Hmmm? #Homeland

Look at the timeline for when THIS investigation involved Richardson -- much tighter ...it's all in black and white.

Are you saying I can sleep soundly tonight?

Alieberman wrote:

97cats wrote:

Bosy Billups wrote:Timeline? Book was busted 3 years ago, had a mini suspension, then struck a deal to be an informant for the feds? Hmmm? #Homeland

Look at the timeline for when THIS investigation involved Richardson -- much tighter ...it's all in black and white.

Are you saying I can sleep soundly tonight?

not yet, but as in times past, Coach Miller got out in front of the issue long before ANYONE else.

there is still one variable left, the NCAA...but who knows when and where this will arise.

there are many other shoes still to drop, we are lucky az was included in the first traunch

Olsondogg wrote:Paternack leaves...Romar hired...all around the same time as the Feds start up with us.

hmmmmmmmmm

I see the timeline as Nike caught wind of Book cheating on them with the three stripe crowd and threw him under the bus with the help of their desert Witch.

I believe the program/Miller will survive.

But it isn't all rosey, Little & Quinerly won't play college anywhere.

If there's someone who was paid on this year's team and that comes out this year or 2-4+ years down the line, well this current season would be erased. Plus a future post season ban for a team who wasn't involved (if it doesn't come out anytime soon), scholarship reduction.

So no we didn't die, but we got like a couple of broken ribs that could cause internal complications later down the line.

Do I trust 97 or Hater... tough choice here....

I have zero knowledge but talking to multiple people today we all touched on this timing...

At the end of the day isn’t this just called lobbying. Happens every minute in DC and in every town with a political body in this country. You pay people/do favors in exchange for things you want.

Pretty simple in my eyes.

I don't see how Miller could get in front of this without working with the appropriate offices on campus at the same time. It would be a notch above "self-reporting." It would involve Arizona being a willing part of the undercover investigation itself.

Olsondogg wrote:I have zero knowledge but talking to multiple people today we all touched on this timing...

and what is the one thing EVERYONE in college hoop circles say about Lorenzo Romar?

Sean Miller is a smart and calculating man -- everything is done for a reason and a purpose.

97cats wrote:

Bosy Billups wrote:Timeline? Book was busted 3 years ago, had a mini suspension, then struck a deal to be an informant for the feds? Hmmm? #Homeland

Look at the timeline for when THIS investigation involved Richardson -- much tighter ...it's all in black and white.

He's by far the latest to be involved. He is summer 2017 only.

That's part of what is insane. If he'd not jumped in right when he did, this doesn't involve Arizona at all.

97cats wrote:

Olsondogg wrote:Paternack leaves...Romar hired...all around the same time as the Feds start up with us.

hmmmmmmmmm

Projection or do you actually know something? I don't need to know it - only want to know where you sit on the bs meter.

So Sean would be a witness, a fed confidant? I mean, wow.