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I’m surprised it lasted this long.

Arizona was his dream school apparently

RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:03 pm Arizona was his dream school apparently

Not anymore.

ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:02 pm I’m surprised it lasted this long.

His choice or CTL's choice?

I'm guessing Nowell most likely staying since he's a Seattle guy and Terry is staying.

Tyty Washington and Arthur Kaluma still out there (as far as high school recruits).

RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:14 pm I'm guessing Nowell most likely staying since he's a Seattle guy and Terry is staying.

Tyty Washington and Arthur Kaluma still out there.

We need more than just Tyty at guard now IMO. We have Kriisa, then it's just big wings like Mathurin, Terry and Nowell. I'd feel better with another smaller guard because one injury and we're basically having to play Tyty or Kriisa 40.

UAEebs86 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:04 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:02 pm I’m surprised it lasted this long.

His choice or CTL's choice?

CTL

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:23 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:14 pm I'm guessing Nowell most likely staying since he's a Seattle guy and Terry is staying.

Tyty Washington and Arthur Kaluma still out there.

We need more than just Tyty at guard now IMO. We have Kriisa, then it's just big wings like Mathurin, Terry and Nowell. I'd feel better with another smaller guard because one injury and we're basically having to play Tyty or Kriisa 40.

Nowell and Mathurin are pretty much natural 2 guards lol, but I agree we should add one more guard.

ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:25 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:04 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:02 pm I’m surprised it lasted this long.

His choice or CTL's choice?

CTL

Interesting....

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:23 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:14 pm I'm guessing Nowell most likely staying since he's a Seattle guy and Terry is staying.

Tyty Washington and Arthur Kaluma still out there.

We need more than just Tyty at guard now IMO. We have Kriisa, then it's just big wings like Mathurin, Terry and Nowell. I'd feel better with another smaller guard because one injury and we're basically having to play Tyty or Kriisa 40.

Agree, we definitely need to add at least 1 PG and 1 Combo guard to the mix. Ideally Kerr is coming off the bench with us adding two new guys (Tyty and Transfer) that can start. Or a 3 so we can slide Ben over to the 2.

Any chance we can merge this thread with the 21-22 Season thread?

ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:26 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:23 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:14 pm I'm guessing Nowell most likely staying since he's a Seattle guy and Terry is staying.

Tyty Washington and Arthur Kaluma still out there.

We need more than just Tyty at guard now IMO. We have Kriisa, then it's just big wings like Mathurin, Terry and Nowell. I'd feel better with another smaller guard because one injury and we're basically having to play Tyty or Kriisa 40.

Nowell and Mathurin are pretty much natural 2 guards lol, but I agree we should add one more guard.

I mean more in the sense that we need someone who could at least handle the 1 in a pinch. I agree Nowell, Terry and Mathurin could all handle wing perimeter duties at either the 2 or 3, but I can't see any as a viable 1.

Thus, even if we get Tyty, an injury to him or Kriisa and we're down to one viable PG. Dezonie was the kind of guy you didn't want playing minutes at the 1, but if an injury happened, he could at least give you 8-10 MPG if you pray hard enough.

Dalen Terry averaged 11 APG in HS and played PG, not ideal but he could do it in a foul trouble or rolled ankle situation.

mofo wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:29 pm Any chance we can merge this thread with the 21-22 Season thread?

This thread is just about recruiting for the upcoming season. No real need to merge it.

I mean, I laughed it off this morning but... Aaron Cook, come on down?

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/ ... er-portal/

Quality two-way senior guard... just not much of a ball handler and a little short at 6'1" to play the two (though he has good strength). I really only like him for depth (10min/g) for us but given that we're now down what, four ball handlers heading into the season? Could use the depth.

YoDeFoe wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:54 pm I mean, I laughed it off this morning but... Aaron Cook, come on down?

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/ ... er-portal/

Quality two-way senior guard... just not much of a ball handler and a little short at 6'1" to play the two (though he has good strength). I really only like him for depth (10min/g) for us but given that we're now down what, four ball handlers heading into the season? Could use the depth.

He's going to be 26 in December. BYU should recruit him.

RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:48 pm Dalen Terry averaged 11 APG in HS and played PG, not ideal but he could do it in a foul trouble or rolled ankle situation.

I'm not sold on his ability to handle or defend the 1. Dalen isn't super quick for a 3, let alone a 1, and his handle...I think it works better in HS.

I mean we could shoehorn anyone in there, but without Simpson and Dezonie, Kriisa is the only guy who has any real business playing any time at the 1 at any point until/unless we get Tyty.

Irish27 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:59 pm

YoDeFoe wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:54 pm I mean, I laughed it off this morning but... Aaron Cook, come on down?

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/ ... er-portal/

Quality two-way senior guard... just not much of a ball handler and a little short at 6'1" to play the two (though he has good strength). I really only like him for depth (10min/g) for us but given that we're now down what, four ball handlers heading into the season? Could use the depth.

He's going to be 26 in December. BYU should recruit him.

(SUPER) SENIOR LEADERSHIP - but for real, we have one player over the age of 21 on the roster and only one (Ballo) who has worked with Lloyd before. Could be useful to have an older guy who knows how Lloyd runs a practice on board.

YoDeFoe wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:54 pm I mean, I laughed it off this morning but... Aaron Cook, come on down?

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/ ... er-portal/

Quality two-way senior guard... just not much of a ball handler and a little short at 6'1" to play the two (though he has good strength). I really only like him for depth (10min/g) for us but given that we're now down what, four ball handlers heading into the season? Could use the depth.

He's better than a lot of other options. He's not as talented as Tyty, but you don't have to live with freshman OAD issues.

4 open spots to fill. Unless we are going to roll with 11 and self sanction scholarship limit this year... in which case we would have 2 open spots.

Aaron Cook?

Eh I think Cook wants to go somewhere he can start. That wouldn’t be here.

Alterique Gilbert (UConn & Wichita St) is in the portal. He an option?

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:01 am Alterique Gilbert (UConn & Wichita St) is in the portal. He an option?

The PG position begins and ends with Tyty. He intends to make a decision fairly soon, you don't go to plan B until you know the status of Plan A.

ChooChooCat wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:28 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:01 am Alterique Gilbert (UConn & Wichita St) is in the portal. He an option?

The PG position begins and ends with Tyty. He intends to make a decision fairly soon, you don't go to plan B until you know the status of Plan A.

Nice.

I want to be where we want to be on Plan A...

He should be making his decision this week right?

BeardownZonaZona wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:15 am He should be making his decision this week right?

I mean supposedly this week or next, but your guess is as good as mine.

I feel like it’s a situation where each day/week that goes by it’s worse for us or am I off here?

Always feels like when a decision drags out further than their original decision timeline it's bad news for us, almost all the time.

I know he's playing that recruiting event on May 9th. I wonder if he's going to announce then

Checking here daily to see if he's committed. Come on Tyty. There is no greater place in the world to go for your education, play basketball, and be an alumnus than the U of A.

Carcassdragger wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:49 am Checking here daily to see if he's committed. Come on Tyty. There is no greater place in the world to go for your education, play basketball, and be an alumnus than the U of A. Oh, and disregard our douche President and AD please.

Edited it for you.

KJ Simpson committed to Tad Boyle and the Buffs. Glad he found another Pac 12 opportunity, wish he would have stayed. Him and Akinjo (obviously) are the two we could miss the most if we don't fill up that back court.

gronk4heisman wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:31 pm KJ Simpson committed to Tad Boyle and the Buffs. Glad he found another Pac 12 opportunity, wish he would have stayed. Him and Akinjo (obviously) are the two we could miss the most if we don't fill up that back court.

I'd say Akinjo and Baker, who we're all forgetting was the most impactful player on the team before he went down with the wrist injury. Personally never trusted Simpson to provide day 1 PG duties and he hardly felt like he'd be adequate PG depth in his freshman season.

Is there any chance Richard Isaacs reclassifies to '21? I know there was some talk about it early on and I know he was high on Gonzaga and Arizona had offered him previously.

BeardownZonaZona wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:15 am He should be making his decision this week right?

Let's also not forget that he's playing in the Iverson Classic on May 8th, and Showtime is in charge of creating content and making a short documentary about the event. This is the ONLY all-star game being played this year, with the McDonald's and Jordan Brand games cancelled.

It's entirely reasonable there is a decision made around this event, especially considering it is the only one of it's kind this year.

"Things are very quiet concerning Washington’s recruitment. One thought is that perhaps the NBA G League is making a run at him."

That would suck

Wouldn't shock me with Tyty. He seems to clearly see himself as a pro and I could easily see him going straight to prepping for the pros.

Honestly, TyTy to the G League is my hope. There are the Suggs'es and Bibby's of the world, but on the other hand, there are all those goin' pro point guards who are great only in an abstract way that's imperceptible to viewers and unimpactful in terms of results on the floor.

My general preference would be for a proven transfer, like maybe that Calvin cartoon guy from Utah.

If we miss out on Tyty and decide to go with a project like Pelle or a career college role player like Aaron Cook to run the point then my projections for the season go way down and we are looking more like a bubble team.

gronk4heisman wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:34 pm If we miss out on Tyty and decide to go with a project like Pelle or a career college role player like Aaron Cook to run the point then my projections for the season go way down and we are looking more like a bubble team.

Regardless, you don't really know what you're going to get in a top-rated freshman point guard. At the expense of immediate hopes for a team, I like what developing point guards bring to a program. And I say that with an eye toward today's game, not the past.

Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:53 pm

gronk4heisman wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:34 pm If we miss out on Tyty and decide to go with a project like Pelle or a career college role player like Aaron Cook to run the point then my projections for the season go way down and we are looking more like a bubble team.

Regardless, you don't really know what you're going to get in a top-rated freshman point guard. At the expense of immediate hopes for a team, I like what developing point guards bring to a program. And I say that with an eye toward today's game, not the past.

I agree, and we have room for both a top rated freshman and a PG to develop.

If we miss out on TyTy there may be some PGs who are not yet in the transfer portal looking for playing time or more exposure.

gronk4heisman wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:55 pm

Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:53 pm

gronk4heisman wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:34 pm If we miss out on Tyty and decide to go with a project like Pelle or a career college role player like Aaron Cook to run the point then my projections for the season go way down and we are looking more like a bubble team.

Regardless, you don't really know what you're going to get in a top-rated freshman point guard. At the expense of immediate hopes for a team, I like what developing point guards bring to a program. And I say that with an eye toward today's game, not the past.

I agree, and we have room for both a top rated freshman and a PG to develop.

I think I mean to say something different than that. I'm referring to a certain level of point guard won't transfer here to develop in practice while TyTy runs the floor during games. In that sense, you really can't have both, and I'd rather develop what I call a real college point guard than give the keys to an NBA-bound one-and-done point guard (Suggs aside) who jets after a season of getting outplayed by real college point guards. While I'm an ignorant fan wasting words on a message board while CTL has things under control, this is the hill I'll die on as an ignorant message board poster. It's all I talk about. Even to the door when I'm on the toilet.

Chicat wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:05 pm If we miss out on TyTy there may be some PGs who are not yet in the transfer portal looking for playing time or more exposure.

No question. Could see dudes on teams with a ton of guards look around and see a team with Mathurin and Tubelis and see a spot they can start in and play with elite talent and get guaranteed playing time. If we miss on Tyty, there are options available and more will come available

Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:28 pm Honestly, TyTy to the G League is my hope. There are the Suggs'es and Bibby's of the world, but on the other hand, there are all those goin' pro point guards who are great only in an abstract way that's imperceptible to viewers and unimpactful in terms of results on the floor.

My general preference would be for a proven transfer, like maybe that Calvin cartoon guy from Utah.

I'm 39 and was only practice fodder at a midmajor in my prime. So I'm flattered, but don't get your hopes up.

Not 100% what you mean by Utah either. I played in a tourney in Cedar City (I think) as a high schooler, but that's my total career in that state.