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Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:06 am
by wyo-cat
These people are bonkers. My sister is one of them.

I’ve been involved with girls sports for 10 yrs or more, never had a problem with this.

It’s a solution looking for a problem.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:21 am
by CalStateTempe
You know who else hate women who cut their hair?

The Iranian government

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:00 pm
by 84Cat
The women's soccer team is driving me nuts with this prevent defense bs. Come on, control the ball and stop letting Australia take shots on goal

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:00 pm
by azcat49
Anyone see the women’s rugby team that scored from their end zone on the last play of the game to beat Australia and win the bronze medal. Google that because it is simply amazing. The emotions of both teams is raw

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:05 pm
by 84Cat
azcat49 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:00 pm Anyone see the women’s rugby team that scored from their end zone on the last play of the game to beat Australia and win the bronze medal. Google that because it is simply amazing. The emotions of both teams is raw
Absolutely awesome ending


Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:41 pm
by wyo-cat
azcat49 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:00 pm Anyone see the women’s rugby team that scored from their end zone on the last play of the game to beat Australia and win the bronze medal. Google that because it is simply amazing. The emotions of both teams is raw
It was brilliant.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 1:31 pm
by azgreg
Simone Biles is really good.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:22 pm
by TheCatInTheHat
Chicat wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:37 am Chase Budinger and his partner won their first match 2-0 over France.
Then they lost to the Netherlands. They play again Friday (I believe at 6 am PT) against Spain. A salute to them from somebody's South Bay condo overlooking the beach and the volleyball nets to the amazingly scenic beach volleyball site in the shadow of the Eiffel Tower in Paris:

Image

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:16 pm
by wyo-cat
I’ve been blown up today from my right wing sister about a trans male fighting in women’s boxing.

I finally get home and chill for a sec….

Turns out the lady was born with Swyer Syndrome.

She has female genitalia and male (XY) chromosomes.

Definitely not a tranny or a man.

What’s really sad is the right wing freak out. She was born between sexes, and not really either. I can’t imagine the amount of bullying she got as a young girl.

Fuck these Faux News Brain Rot assholes.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:43 pm
by Chicat
She’s also competing within the rules the IOC has set forth. She’s passed every test they have to be considered female.

The meltdown is about her existing. Simple as that. Same with Ilona Maher. They exist and because they don’t fit into other people’s narrow worldview, they are somehow an abomination. Because they are strong and good at sports.

Anyone freaking out about this are telling on themselves.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:57 am
by EastCoastCat
I don’t think raising the issue about having an equal playing field for all participants is wrong. Throw out the Trans talk because it has nothing to do with this issue being raised.

I agree she won the bout fair and square because she is competing within the IOC rules. But I do think the IOC needs to look at females with male chromosomes just like they look at doping regulations. It’s obviously an advantage but what “amount” is the right amount.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:47 am
by Chicat
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:57 am I don’t think raising the issue about having an equal playing field for all participants is wrong.
Depends on your agenda.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:49 am
by wyo-cat
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:57 am I don’t think raising the issue about having an equal playing field for all participants is wrong. Throw out the Trans talk because it has nothing to do with this issue being raised.

I agree she won the bout fair and square because she is competing within the IOC rules. But I do think the IOC needs to look at females with male chromosomes just like they look at doping regulations. It’s obviously an advantage but what “amount” is the right amount.
What about have some creepy dude like JD Vance doing genitalia checks?

That work for you?

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:19 am
by pc in NM
Chicat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:47 am
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:57 am I don’t think raising the issue about having an equal playing field for all participants is wrong.
Depends on your agenda.
This issue is of very recent vintage, and the IOC (as well as all sports groups) are evolving their rules. They'll all need to seriously consider "equal playing field" as well as examining the "agendas" of all advocates.

This is unlikely to be the last Olympics where these questions will be raised. But, I agree that this particular case is not the test case....

And, what they should do about Katie Ladecky when considering "an equal playing field for all participants" :shock: :? :o :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:31 am
by Chicat
pc in NM wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:19 am And, what they should do about Katie Ladecky when considering "an equal playing field for all participants" :shock: :? :o :lol: :lol: :lol:
That’s the question. LeBron James has a distinct advantage over me at basketball because he’s a foot taller and built out of granite but I demand a level playing field so he needs to be banned.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:48 am
by EastCoastCat
Chicat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:47 am
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:57 am I don’t think raising the issue about having an equal playing field for all participants is wrong.
Depends on your agenda.
I was trying to have a civil discourse about it but I should have known that doesn’t happen any more because everything now is political.

Carry on…

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:53 am
by 84Cat
Chicat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:31 am
pc in NM wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:19 am And, what they should do about Katie Ladecky when considering "an equal playing field for all participants" :shock: :? :o :lol: :lol: :lol:
That’s the question. LeBron James has a distinct advantage over me at basketball because he’s a foot taller and built out of granite but I demand a level playing field so he needs to be banned.
Serena Williams, Navratilova, Michael Phelps, Shaq. There are a lot of athletes with unfair advantages. I think it's still good to discuss this issue to try and flesh out what's best for everyone. It will be interesting to see how this woman does going forward.

We are still learning about steroids too. I think if someone is caught they should be banned for life because they are finding out there is an advantage there never goes away completely. The problem is how can we be sure someone is using steroids because they're always changing them up so it's hard to detect. With so much money in sports now, it's worth the risk.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:06 am
by dovecanyoncat
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:48 am
Chicat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:47 am
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:57 am I don’t think raising the issue about having an equal playing field for all participants is wrong.
Depends on your agenda.
I was trying to have a civil discourse about it but I should have known that doesn’t happen any more because everything now is political.

Carry on…
The context of query is everything. That's what Chi is saying. If I want to outlaw the right of religious assembly I will highlight some fundamental imbalance related to assembly itself and work backward. If assembly is overseen by some supposedly idiosyncratic body, so much the better.

In the current case, a Defense of Sport Integrity Act will rise through the ranks of the GOP laying the groundwork for banning the Olympics on American soil. Surely the LA Dodgers deserve the same protections.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:11 am
by Alieberman
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:48 am
Chicat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:47 am
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:57 am I don’t think raising the issue about having an equal playing field for all participants is wrong.
Depends on your agenda.
I was trying to have a civil discourse about it but I should have known that doesn’t happen any more because everything now is political.

Carry on…
I won't speak for anyone but myself- but I do think conversations should be had about this. The problem... as Chi I am sure was alluding to... is that in the eyes of many folks... with a certain political ideology... this is more about being cruel than being fair....

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:18 am
by Merkin
Alieberman wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:11 am The problem... as Chi I am sure was alluding to... is that in the eyes of many folks... with a certain political ideology... this is more about being cruel than being fair....

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:27 am
by Chicat
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:48 am
Chicat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:47 am
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:57 am I don’t think raising the issue about having an equal playing field for all participants is wrong.
Depends on your agenda.
I was trying to have a civil discourse about it but I should have known that doesn’t happen any more because everything now is political.

Carry on…
There was nothing uncivil about my response. Maybe try unclenching your sphincter*.



*Now THAT was uncivil

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:31 am
by Merkin
Huh? Stanford sure, but ASU? Is ballroom dancing an Olympic event?

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:34 am
by pc in NM
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:48 am
Chicat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:47 am
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:57 am I don’t think raising the issue about having an equal playing field for all participants is wrong.
Depends on your agenda.
I was trying to have a civil discourse about it but I should have known that doesn’t happen any more because everything now is political.

Carry on…
You didn't actually "discuss" anything there. You raise a question...

Please, is it possible to discuss this question without political considerations??

In fact, it's only being "discussed" this week BECAUSE of political commentators using phony rhetorical questions to provoke political innuendo

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:36 am
by CalStateTempe
The French swimmer with phelp’s coach goes to ASU.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:08 am
by 84Cat

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:33 am
by Chicat
My Father-in-Law: “Did you see about that transgender boxer?”
Me: “She’s not transgender.”
FIL: “Yes she is.”
Me: “You think ALGERIA sent a trans athlete to the Olympics? Ha!”
FIL: … stunned silence …

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:51 am
by EastCoastCat
Chicat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:27 am
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:48 am
Chicat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:47 am
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:57 am I don’t think raising the issue about having an equal playing field for all participants is wrong.
Depends on your agenda.
I was trying to have a civil discourse about it but I should have known that doesn’t happen any more because everything now is political.

Carry on…
There was nothing uncivil about my response. Maybe try unclenching your sphincter*.



*Now THAT was uncivil
Thanks, I certainly will as I’m not a Tottenham fan…

;)

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:29 pm
by EastCoastCat
Alieberman wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:11 am
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:48 am
Chicat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:47 am
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:57 am I don’t think raising the issue about having an equal playing field for all participants is wrong.
Depends on your agenda.
I was trying to have a civil discourse about it but I should have known that doesn’t happen any more because everything now is political.

Carry on…
I won't speak for anyone but myself- but I do think conversations should be had about this. The problem... as Chi I am sure was alluding to... is that in the eyes of many folks... with a certain political ideology... this is more about being cruel than being fair....
Well put Ari. That’s what I was trying to say but you did a better job than I did.

And I do feel bad for Khelif as she is just trying to compete like anyone else.

I also read an article in USA Today (assuming it’s accurate) that gender equality is not determined by the IOC. They defer to the international governing bodies for each of the 32 Olympic sports. The IOC does provide a framework but apparently it’s nonbinding.

The IOC removed the boxing governing body IBA due to scandals before the Tokyo games and placed an ad hoc group which allowed both Khelif and Lin Yu-Ting from Taiwan to compete. Paris has followed Tokyo’s guidelines. The IBA does govern the world championships and they disqualified both Khalif and Lin from the 2023 championships for failing gender equality tests.

The whole thing is a mess, which is not a surprise for boxing.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:58 pm
by pc in NM
Great 10K race!!

Grant Fisher, USA won bronze...

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:02 pm
by EastCoastCat
That 10k race was about as exciting as it gets.

And Fischer almost fell down but recovered to get the Bronze. Way to go!

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:18 pm
by Merkin
Biles is the GOAT of GOATs!

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:22 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Remember when the Shiteaters went after her "bad hair"? If it ain't trad, cis, or beige dominant it's Woke!

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:25 pm
by 84Cat
This ain't the lower boards gents

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:45 pm
by Alieberman
84Cat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:25 pm This ain't the lower boards gents
I agree- but frankly... again... when a certain political ideology decide to make the Olympics political from the Opening Ceremony on... it's really fucking hard

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:51 pm
by UAEebs86
Is this the first time they've had mixed mens/womens relays?

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:53 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Alieberman wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:45 pm
84Cat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:25 pm This ain't the lower boards gents
I agree- but frankly... again... when a certain political ideology decide to make the Olympics political from the Opening Ceremony on... it's really fucking hard
Mea culpa. I'm really bad at it.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 2:08 pm
by 84Cat
Alieberman wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:45 pm
84Cat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:25 pm This ain't the lower boards gents
I agree- but frankly... again... when a certain political ideology decide to make the Olympics political from the Opening Ceremony on... it's really fucking hard
Fair

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:12 pm
by PHXCATS
UAEebs86 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:51 pm Is this the first time they've had mixed mens/womens relays?
No

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:16 pm
by PHXCATS
You can delete tweets but people remember

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:17 pm
by PHXCATS
Goes for the IOC and the haters

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 9:42 am
by Merkin

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:29 pm
by AZCatGirl
Chase may need another face stomp to light a fire under him.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:39 pm
by Merkin
^ :D True, that changed his whole season.


Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:43 pm
by azgreg
And Chase into the knockout round.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 5:01 pm
by azcat49
Amazing that one runner can bring a whole island country together in joy and happiness. That is truly the Olympic spirit

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:07 pm
by PHXCATS
azcat49 wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 5:01 pm Amazing that one runner can bring a whole island country to together in joy and happiness. That is truly the Olympic spirit
Every US Olympic team and athletes should be doing the same thing. Unfortunately some decide to bring politics and other divisive things into it

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:27 am
by Carcassdragger
Merkin wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:39 pm ^ :D True, that changed his whole season.

These videos are the best thing I've seen in a while. Thanks Merk.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:49 am
by EastCoastCat
American swimmers end on a strong note with the women’s 4x100 medley relay team setting a WR.

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 12:57 pm
by PHXCATS
Lyles!!!

What an amazing race

Fuck yeah

Closest race I have ever seen

Re: Paris Olympics

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 1:07 pm
by EastCoastCat
Can’t believe it’s been 20 years since we won the gold in the 100 meters.

Lyle’s won by 5/1000th of a second. Unbelievable.