Bear Down Wildcats

rgdeuce wrote:

michcat wrote:Zags desevered it. They are a complete team with a great coach.

This is going to come across as salty but i dont care.

Fuck Gonzaga. Mark Few didnt earn shit. First off, this team starts three upper classman transfers. Guys really put in that work. Their fourth starter, a fat fuck, by the greatest of luck in the world gets injured early enough in his senior season to qualify for a medical redshirt.

As if that wasnt enough of a dump in Mark Fews lap, the dude wins a couple of good nonconference games and wraps things up by getting Arizona without Trier and PJC, before hopping into their pansy ass conference and hitting cruise control, still somehow losing to BYU at home. So they get a 1 seed, barely skate by a team that shot maybe 27 percent in a game and fouled the living hell out of them all night and go to an elite 8 where they get the joke of the school that we somehow lost to, partially thanks to a freak finger injury to Alkins playing the other pansy school from their conference. We pissed away our golden path but the truth is, theirs was the absolute golden one. No disrespect to the squad they face to skate into the title game, but naturally, a 7 seed who cant keep up offensively. And then they have a 50/50 chance of playing a 3 seed playing essentially six guys for a national title (i still think Oregon would bend them over). I mean, we played more tough games in our conference schedule alone then they will have to play all season, including the tournament, to get to a final four

Oregon and Altman have earned it. Mark Few is the guy who took the easy road for over a decade and failed repeatedlt and finally saw the stars align in one perfect season.

rgdeuce wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:My hot take has nothing to do with geography and more with the style of play to the coaches. Alford is an idiot with no control so you can do what you want. Alford is a great coach who give you the freedom to create. Miller ball is pack line and motion offense but despite having similar level of talent relative to Oregon, is less enthusiastic over letting his throughbreds run.

If your a top talent, Oregon>ucla>Arizona, as it stands after this tourney, imho

Yes, Oregon lost Boucher, but they already have what they lost in him. Plenty of outside shooting and another presence around the rim/protector. They lost a luxury. Amazing coaching job by Altman, who were already knew was a great coach. But lets not pretend he pulled off a miracle here. Pac 12 POY, a guy who is playing like the POY right now, and a great 15th year senior, Bell, Pritchard. Thats still a damn good starting five. And of course, sixth man is a dude that started for them last year.

ive brought this up before, but Altman is super successful because he doesnt have the turnover Miller does. Think hes had two big names leave early and i dont think any were after freshman or soph years. Guys stay four years at Oregon. So in terms of recruiting, I wouldnt worry too much. If Altman wants to put on his big boy pants and recruit w the blue bloods then so be it. He hasnt proven he can, he hasnt proven he can win like that, and it isnt like hes developing guys into NBA players. If you want to win in college, Altman is a great choice. But most top 30 guys are looking beyond that and that is why they mostly go to a handful of particular coaches. No knock on Altman but until I see him do, Im not super worried.

Arizona is still the gold standard out west, program and recruiting. Until UCLA or Oregon strings off 6 or 7 top classes in a row, that will not change. Until Oregon continues what theyve been doing the last few years for an extended period, they are still 2nd or 3rd fiddle in the conference. After wisconsins 14 and 15 success, are they the crown jewel of the big 10? Oregon wins their way and we win ours. There wont this huge overlap IMO. But, if there is then bring it on. Its good for us to have Oregon and UCLA joining us in the top 10 every year. The ACC is big enough for Duke and North Carolina and Louisville (and a slew of others). More guys will want to come here if and when we get that type of situation going

rgdeuce wrote:

michcat wrote:Zags desevered it. They are a complete team with a great coach.

This is going to come across as salty but i dont care.

Fuck Gonzaga. Mark Few didnt earn shit. First off, this team starts three upper classman transfers. Guys really put in that work. Their fourth starter, a fat fuck, by the greatest of luck in the world gets injured early enough in his senior season to qualify for a medical redshirt.

As if that wasnt enough of a dump in Mark Fews lap, the dude wins a couple of good nonconference games and wraps things up by getting Arizona without Trier and PJC, before hopping into their pansy ass conference and hitting cruise control, still somehow losing to BYU at home. So they get a 1 seed, barely skate by a team that shot maybe 27 percent in a game and fouled the living hell out of them all night and go to an elite 8 where they get the joke of the school that we somehow lost to, partially thanks to a freak finger injury to Alkins playing the other pansy school from their conference. We pissed away our golden path but the truth is, theirs was the absolute golden one. No disrespect to the squad they face to skate into the title game, but naturally, a 7 seed who cant keep up offensively. And then they have a 50/50 chance of playing a 3 seed playing essentially six guys for a national title (i still think Oregon would bend them over). I mean, we played more tough games in our conference schedule alone then they will have to play all season, including the tournament, to get to a final four

Oregon and Altman have earned it. Mark Few is the guy who took the easy road for over a decade and failed repeatedlt and finally saw the stars align in one perfect season.

Dave wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/college-basket ... nba-draft/

This is what college basketball has become. You lose both players and your back to rebuild mode. You get them back and you are one of the top teams in the country.

Dave wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/college-basket ... nba-draft/

This is what college basketball has become. You lose both players and your back to rebuild mode. You get them back and you are one of the top teams in the country.

Frybry02 wrote:

Dave wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/college-basket ... nba-draft/

This is what college basketball has become. You lose both players and your back to rebuild mode. You get them back and you are one of the top teams in the country.

Pretty much.

azcat49 wrote:Frank Martin is a hell of a coach.

ASUHATER! wrote:God damn south Carolina, who has been to the tournament less than ASU is going to a final 4 before Miller

Catintheheat wrote:When is taking 4 steps without dribbling not a traveling violation?

azcat49 wrote:South Carolina, now there is a Cinderella. Frank Martin is a hell of a coach. The cocks are coming to AZ

CalStateTempe wrote:nah...Oregons gonna manhandle whoever wins this game.

CalStateTempe wrote:nah...Oregons gonna manhandle whoever wins this game.

Frybry02 wrote:This game is too big for this PAC 12 crew

azgreg wrote:What a finish!

Catintheheat wrote:It's going to be a good FF. I don't hate any of the teams. UNC is my favorite of the 4 elites (UNC, UK, KU, Duke). I want to see an Oregon/Gonzaga championship game.

CalStateTempe wrote:

rgdeuce wrote:

michcat wrote:Zags desevered it. They are a complete team with a great coach.

This is going to come across as salty but i dont care.

Fuck Gonzaga. Mark Few didnt earn shit. First off, this team starts three upper classman transfers. Guys really put in that work. Their fourth starter, a fat fuck, by the greatest of luck in the world gets injured early enough in his senior season to qualify for a medical redshirt.

As if that wasnt enough of a dump in Mark Fews lap, the dude wins a couple of good nonconference games and wraps things up by getting Arizona without Trier and PJC, before hopping into their pansy ass conference and hitting cruise control, still somehow losing to BYU at home. So they get a 1 seed, barely skate by a team that shot maybe 27 percent in a game and fouled the living hell out of them all night and go to an elite 8 where they get the joke of the school that we somehow lost to, partially thanks to a freak finger injury to Alkins playing the other pansy school from their conference. We pissed away our golden path but the truth is, theirs was the absolute golden one. No disrespect to the squad they face to skate into the title game, but naturally, a 7 seed who cant keep up offensively. And then they have a 50/50 chance of playing a 3 seed playing essentially six guys for a national title (i still think Oregon would bend them over). I mean, we played more tough games in our conference schedule alone then they will have to play all season, including the tournament, to get to a final four

Oregon and Altman have earned it. Mark Few is the guy who took the easy road for over a decade and failed repeatedlt and finally saw the stars align in one perfect season.

This is all fine and dandy rg, and I totally respect many of your takes but the reality is few kept it all on track where Miller didn't. Miller is probably the better coach and few was gift tons luck, but at the end of it all were here sitting home while the zags moved on.

And we couldn't get it together enough to beat the team that they creamed today. That's not luck. Ftr the way the zags looked today, we are probably going home had we had to play them.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Everyone craps on the Pac because we have zero NC's since '97. Go Oregon, I guess.

This is a really unenthusiastic vote for the Ducks.

1stNGrant Frys wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Everyone craps on the Pac because we have zero NC's since '97. Go Oregon, I guess.

This is a really unenthusiastic vote for the Ducks.

Why do we need to root for other Pac teams? I can tell you most Oregons fans could care less about us. We don't need their success to help us recruit. They have gone far enough to give the Pac exposure.

Would you feel the same if in some bizzaro universe ASU was in the NC? The Pac-12 brotherhood crap only goes so far, before we are just morons for swallowing it.

1stNGrant Frys wrote: Why do we need to root for other Pac teams?

1stNGrant Frys wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Everyone craps on the Pac because we have zero NC's since '97. Go Oregon, I guess.

This is a really unenthusiastic vote for the Ducks.

Why do we need to root for other Pac teams? I can tell you most Oregons fans could care less about us. We don't need their success to help us recruit. They have gone far enough to give the Pac exposure.

Would you feel the same if in some bizzaro universe ASU was in the NC? The Pac-12 brotherhood crap only goes so far, before we are just morons for swallowing it.

UAEebs86 wrote:Down goes UCONN. First loss since 11/17/14.

ASUHATER! wrote:Huge upset. Also apparently South Carolina owns the sport of basketball now