Bear Down Wildcats

TheCat wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:04 pm Nice class and I think Phillips is a lot like Salim. Those guys are shooters.

EastCoastCat wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:30 pm Pretty impressive list…except for Kansas of course.

EastCoastCat wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:30 pm Pretty impressive list…except for Kansas of course.

ChooChooCat wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:51 am

EastCoastCat wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:30 pm Pretty impressive list…except for Kansas of course.

He just committed there. Even though he listed us we were never involved at least not seriously.

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:25 am Someone on this board was saying that if Love comes back, Sanon is likely to not sign. I don’t remember who or where though

pc in NM wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:40 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:25 am Someone on this board was saying that if Love comes back, Sanon is likely to not sign. I don’t remember who or where though

Vague, unsourced rumors about vague, unsourced rumors!

Sure glad I checked in this morning...

Winger wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:54 am

TucsonClip wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:05 am

Winger wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:09 am

Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:58 pm https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... -25-season

This is more legit than those rankings posted upthread. And I think we could rise higher once the dust settles from the transfer portal.

Interesting how they do it this early and I wonder how accurate that starting 5 for Arizona will end up being.

I don’t know anything but declaring for the portal doesn’t always mean one is gone. It can be used as leverage for NIL fund raising.

I don’t read Scheer and Luke anymore but I wonder if their “Love may come back” news is based on the recent rumor that someone(s) has pledged significant $$$ to his NIL.

Often in the past when that site in the early off season posted “Joe may come back” is has been homer and wrong and sometimes directly opposed to what I was hearing (Terry and Koloko being the most recent examples).

I don’t think I’d bet $5 on any starting 5 for Arizona at this point.

Whoa, Winger is here!?

Also, wanted to chime in and say I heard something similar as well. Not sure if it's a full pledge to his NIL or a donation to the hoops NIL/program with an earmark for Love.

No clue if its true, but I heard it was more than twice what Johnson received and for Love specifically. Question I have is: would Lloyd allow him to come back? That is a difficult question imo. Everything taken in to account it seems unlikely but who knows now a days. Also heard that if Love comes back Sanon doesn’t sign.

SunnyAZ wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:51 am That was before Boswell left. Scheer did a live about Caleb potentially coming back and said that one of Kylan or Sanon would leave if it happened. Well Kylan already left.

Chicat wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:08 am

pc in NM wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:40 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:25 am Someone on this board was saying that if Love comes back, Sanon is likely to not sign. I don’t remember who or where though

Vague, unsourced rumors about vague, unsourced rumors!

Sure glad I checked in this morning...

It was Winger who said it. He’s about as dialed in as they come but please don’t let that stop your unsourced rumors rant.

ChooChooCat wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:21 am

SunnyAZ wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:51 am That was before Boswell left. Scheer did a live about Caleb potentially coming back and said that one of Kylan or Sanon would leave if it happened. Well Kylan already left.

It’s still not a sure thing Sanon would come if Love comes back regardless. I won’t go as far as Winger did in saying he for sure won’t come, but it’s certainly up in the air.

SunnyAZ wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:50 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:21 am

SunnyAZ wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:51 am That was before Boswell left. Scheer did a live about Caleb potentially coming back and said that one of Kylan or Sanon would leave if it happened. Well Kylan already left.

It’s still not a sure thing Sanon would come if Love comes back regardless. I won’t go as far as Winger did in saying he for sure won’t come, but it’s certainly up in the air.

even if you include love coming back the bench rn would be Henri and two freshman. maybe Conrad if you think he will play. I don't know why he would commit with Boswell on the team and Caleb leaving and then leave in the reverse. it's basically the same thing as far as minutes distribution imo

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:18 am So for those of you who have looked into Damon more than I have (minimal) who would you rather have?

Freshman Sanon (is he a 1&Done?)
Or Super Senior Love?

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:18 am So for those of you who have looked into Damon more than I have (minimal) who would you rather have?

Freshman Sanon (is he a 1&Done?)
Or Super Senior Love?

SunnyAZ wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:51 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:18 am So for those of you who have looked into Damon more than I have (minimal) who would you rather have?

Freshman Sanon (is he a 1&Done?)
Or Super Senior Love?

Love, not even close. But I don't know why ppl think Sanon is a 1&D.

RawleArenas wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:34 am
You need NBA guys without question. Last two years we lacked NBA talent.

I would take youth over experience unless experience is ready to accept a sacrificial leadership role. I'm not sure if Love can be that.

Also, youth is more moldable. Players like Love (while I love his production) can be difficult because they're set in their ways.

ChooChooCat wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:13 am
For all intents and purposes, Sanon's role on the team would be the same as Love's. Boswell wouldn't have impacted that as much. So it's more of a role issue rather than minutes.

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:18 am So for those of you who have looked into Damon more than I have (minimal) who would you rather have?

Freshman Sanon (is he a 1&Done?)
Or Super Senior Love?

Winger wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:33 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:18 am So for those of you who have looked into Damon more than I have (minimal) who would you rather have?

Freshman Sanon (is he a 1&Done?)
Or Super Senior Love?

Love was my favorite player to watch in an Arizona uniform this past season. I am not big on 1&Ds who aren’t game changers from day 1, which Sanon is not. But, you can’t run Love back this season. He will kill you too often by shooting and TOing you out of games and Lloyd isn’t a dude who can rein in players and his offense specifically isn’t designed with that in mind. If Love comes back that would be a black mark for me on Lloyd’s ability to coach and manage a roster.

Until he does in fact rein him in and improve his efficiency, of course. Then I will apologize and take it back. But, that ain’t happening.

Winger wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:33 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:18 am So for those of you who have looked into Damon more than I have (minimal) who would you rather have?

Freshman Sanon (is he a 1&Done?)
Or Super Senior Love?

Love was my favorite player to watch in an Arizona uniform this past season. I am not big on 1&Ds who aren’t game changers from day 1, which Sanon is not. But, you can’t run Love back this season. He will kill you too often by shooting and TOing you out of games and Lloyd isn’t a dude who can rein in players and his offense specifically isn’t designed with that in mind. If Love comes back that would be a black mark for me on Lloyd’s ability to coach and manage a roster.

Until he does in fact rein him in and improve his efficiency, of course. Then I will apologize and take it back. But, that ain’t happening.

Winger wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:28 am

ChooChooCat wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:13 am
For all intents and purposes, Sanon's role on the team would be the same as Love's. Boswell wouldn't have impacted that as much. So it's more of a role issue rather than minutes.

Agree, that Boswell reference in relation to Sanon doesn’t make sense.

EastCoastCat wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:45 am

Winger wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:33 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:18 am So for those of you who have looked into Damon more than I have (minimal) who would you rather have?

Freshman Sanon (is he a 1&Done?)
Or Super Senior Love?

One thing that most Arizona losses shared was Love shooting and missing a lot. At the end of the season as he was shooting and missing and turning the ball over a lot he didn’t selfcontrol and Lloyd didn’t or couldn’t do anything about it and we lost a lot of games.

I value efficiency at what it means to winning, especially when it matters and particularly when our opponents can slow the game down. I have seen the Love Arizona experiment and it didn’t work.

Time for Lloyd to move on.

Love was my favorite player to watch in an Arizona uniform this past season. I am not big on 1&Ds who aren’t game changers from day 1, which Sanon is not. But, you can’t run Love back this season. He will kill you too often by shooting and TOing you out of games and Lloyd isn’t a dude who can rein in players and his offense specifically isn’t designed with that in mind. If Love comes back that would be a black mark for me on Lloyd’s ability to coach and manage a roster.

Until he does in fact rein him in and improve his efficiency, of course. Then I will apologize and take it back. But, that ain’t happening.

Not really understanding your logic Winger. We seem to forget Love was basically booted out of Chapel Hill the year before because of his poor performance and Lloyd helped turn his career around including Love winning the PAC POY award. What makes you think CTL wouldn’t help him take the next steps in his player growth?

I just can’t see turning our back on a POY winner if he wants to come back and commits to taking the necessary next steps to be even better next year.

But that’s just me I guess…

EastCoastCat wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:45 am

Winger wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:33 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:18 am So for those of you who have looked into Damon more than I have (minimal) who would you rather have?

Freshman Sanon (is he a 1&Done?)
Or Super Senior Love?

Love was my favorite player to watch in an Arizona uniform this past season. I am not big on 1&Ds who aren’t game changers from day 1, which Sanon is not. But, you can’t run Love back this season. He will kill you too often by shooting and TOing you out of games and Lloyd isn’t a dude who can rein in players and his offense specifically isn’t designed with that in mind. If Love comes back that would be a black mark for me on Lloyd’s ability to coach and manage a roster.

Until he does in fact rein him in and improve his efficiency, of course. Then I will apologize and take it back. But, that ain’t happening.

Not really understanding your logic Winger. We seem to forget Love was basically booted out of Chapel Hill the year before because of his poor performance and Lloyd helped turn his career around including Love winning the PAC POY award. What makes you think CTL wouldn’t help him take the next steps in his player growth?

I just can’t see turning our back on a POY winner if he wants to come back and commits to taking the necessary next steps to be even better next year.

But that’s just me I guess…

Winger wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:32 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:45 am

Winger wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:33 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:18 am So for those of you who have looked into Damon more than I have (minimal) who would you rather have?

Freshman Sanon (is he a 1&Done?)
Or Super Senior Love?

Love was my favorite player to watch in an Arizona uniform this past season. I am not big on 1&Ds who aren’t game changers from day 1, which Sanon is not. But, you can’t run Love back this season. He will kill you too often by shooting and TOing you out of games and Lloyd isn’t a dude who can rein in players and his offense specifically isn’t designed with that in mind. If Love comes back that would be a black mark for me on Lloyd’s ability to coach and manage a roster.

Until he does in fact rein him in and improve his efficiency, of course. Then I will apologize and take it back. But, that ain’t happening.

Not really understanding your logic Winger. We seem to forget Love was basically booted out of Chapel Hill the year before because of his poor performance and Lloyd helped turn his career around including Love winning the PAC POY award. What makes you think CTL wouldn’t help him take the next steps in his player growth?

I just can’t see turning our back on a POY winner if he wants to come back and commits to taking the necessary next steps to be even better next year.

But that’s just me I guess…

One thing that most Arizona losses shared was Love shooting and missing a lot. At the end of the season as he was shooting and missing and turning the ball over a lot he didn’t selfcontrol and Lloyd didn’t or couldn’t do anything about it and we lost a lot of games.

I value efficiency and what it means to winning, especially when it matters and particularly when our opponents can slow the game down. I have seen the Love Arizona experiment and it didn’t work.

Time for Lloyd to move on.

Winger wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:32 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:45 am

Winger wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:33 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:18 am So for those of you who have looked into Damon more than I have (minimal) who would you rather have?

Freshman Sanon (is he a 1&Done?)
Or Super Senior Love?

Love was my favorite player to watch in an Arizona uniform this past season. I am not big on 1&Ds who aren’t game changers from day 1, which Sanon is not. But, you can’t run Love back this season. He will kill you too often by shooting and TOing you out of games and Lloyd isn’t a dude who can rein in players and his offense specifically isn’t designed with that in mind. If Love comes back that would be a black mark for me on Lloyd’s ability to coach and manage a roster.

Until he does in fact rein him in and improve his efficiency, of course. Then I will apologize and take it back. But, that ain’t happening.

Not really understanding your logic Winger. We seem to forget Love was basically booted out of Chapel Hill the year before because of his poor performance and Lloyd helped turn his career around including Love winning the PAC POY award. What makes you think CTL wouldn’t help him take the next steps in his player growth?

I just can’t see turning our back on a POY winner if he wants to come back and commits to taking the necessary next steps to be even better next year.

But that’s just me I guess…

One thing that most Arizona losses shared was Love shooting and missing a lot. At the end of the season as he was shooting and missing and turning the ball over a lot he didn’t selfcontrol and Lloyd didn’t or couldn’t do anything about it and we lost a lot of games.

I value efficiency and what it means to winning, especially when it matters and particularly when our opponents can slow the game down. I have seen the Love Arizona experiment and it didn’t work.

Time for Lloyd to move on.

Winger wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:32 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:45 am

Winger wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:33 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:18 am So for those of you who have looked into Damon more than I have (minimal) who would you rather have?

Freshman Sanon (is he a 1&Done?)
Or Super Senior Love?

Love was my favorite player to watch in an Arizona uniform this past season. I am not big on 1&Ds who aren’t game changers from day 1, which Sanon is not. But, you can’t run Love back this season. He will kill you too often by shooting and TOing you out of games and Lloyd isn’t a dude who can rein in players and his offense specifically isn’t designed with that in mind. If Love comes back that would be a black mark for me on Lloyd’s ability to coach and manage a roster.

Until he does in fact rein him in and improve his efficiency, of course. Then I will apologize and take it back. But, that ain’t happening.

Not really understanding your logic Winger. We seem to forget Love was basically booted out of Chapel Hill the year before because of his poor performance and Lloyd helped turn his career around including Love winning the PAC POY award. What makes you think CTL wouldn’t help him take the next steps in his player growth?

I just can’t see turning our back on a POY winner if he wants to come back and commits to taking the necessary next steps to be even better next year.

But that’s just me I guess…

One thing that most Arizona losses shared was Love shooting and missing a lot. At the end of the season as he was shooting and missing and turning the ball over a lot he didn’t selfcontrol and Lloyd didn’t or couldn’t do anything about it and we lost a lot of games.

I value efficiency and what it means to winning, especially when it matters and particularly when our opponents can slow the game down. I have seen the Love Arizona experiment and it didn’t work.

Time for Lloyd to move on.

Winger wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:01 am You might be right CCC but I am not sure on that. I can’t think of one reason why he wouldn’t have announced he was back. I am sure there are some I don’t know about but I can’t come up with a single thing. He isn’t getting drafted. No other program would give him even 50% of what his Arizona number is. No contract outside of the NBA draft comes close to his Arizona number. One thing in favor of your conjecture is the offer. Unless Lloyd has zero control over who is offering whom it seems unlikely that that would have gone down without his blessing and there is no reason to give that blessing if you aren’t willing to run it back with him. I really like Love as a Wildcat he was my favorite guy on the team until his end of season implosion (not unusual for him btw) but I will go in to next season believing that Arizona and Lloyd will not be able to get to where they want to go with Love being Love.

All the “POY” stuff falls just as flat to me now as the “he led his team to the Final Four” stuff did last off season. Window dressing from folks that don’t understand what it takes to win college basketball games.