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97, who do you like to come out of the other regions?97cats wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:28 pm
the second weekend is where the better and more dominant teams generally begin to flex their muscle - i expect more of the same this weekend in all the regions.
ceiling for the remaining sixteen teams in the NCAA Tournament:
UNC to win it all, eh? Wow. Pretty surprising to me that you have the Tar Heels as the third possible national champion, but I'm sure you have your reasons. And I can see you like the UNC/ucla winner to reach the Final Four. Not feeling Purdue, eh?97cats wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:17 pmceiling for the remaining sixteen teams in the NCAA Tournament:
Gonzaga - National Champion
Villanova - ELITE 8
Purdue - ELITE 8
Providence - Sweet 16
Miami - Final Four
Arizona - National Champion
Kansas - National Final
North Carolina - National Champion
Texas Tech - ELITE 8
Duke - ELITE 8
UCLA - Final Four
Houston - National Final
Arkansas - Sweet 16
Michigan - ELITE 8
St Joseph's - Sweet 16
Iowa State - ELITE 8
Oh man. If Chase is in attendance on Thursday, that shit is gonna pump me up.AZCatGirl wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:57 pm Totally forgot face stomp was from Houston. Hope we own these guys Thursday.
Gonna take a lot of blizzards and Phil Martelli whining for that to happen. Maybe the school can call in a Joey Brackets favor.97cats wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:17 pmceiling for the remaining sixteen teams in the NCAA Tournament:
St Joseph's - Sweet 16
CatFanOneMil wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:48 pm Here's a video from how Sampson has setup Houston from last year, still relevant...
How Houston Scores
RaisingArizona wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:51 amGonna take a lot of blizzards and Phil Martelli whining for that to happen. Maybe the school can call in a Joey Brackets favor.97cats wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:17 pmceiling for the remaining sixteen teams in the NCAA Tournament:
St Joseph's - Sweet 16
Interesting.97cats wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:17 pmceiling for the remaining sixteen teams in the NCAA Tournament:
Gonzaga - National Champion
Villanova - ELITE 8
Purdue - ELITE 8
Providence - Sweet 16
Miami - Final Four
Arizona - National Champion
Kansas - National Final
North Carolina - National Champion
Texas Tech - ELITE 8
Duke - ELITE 8
UCLA - Final Four
Houston - National Final
Arkansas - Sweet 16
Michigan - ELITE 8
St Peter's - Sweet 16
Iowa State - ELITE 8
I don't see it either. But with such an easy draw to the Final 4... they have a shotRaisingArizona wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:29 am I don't see it with Kansas. They'll likely get to the Final Four bc of their gift of a draw (both seeding and upsets) but I just don't think that's all that talented of a roster.
Against the set defense, I can't picture how we'll get the ball to the bigs in that position. I also don't see how we can play Koloko and Ballo together against Houston.RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:59 amCatFanOneMil wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:48 pm Here's a video from how Sampson has setup Houston from last year, still relevant...
How Houston Scores
Yeah I think they're going to play Tubelis out of the game game because of the post trap, he's going to get stripped constantly.
Ballo I think will be similar. We have to get the bigs inside ball so that they don't have to take much of a step or dribble. Even when it looks like we'll have a clear advantage, they're switching will negate that quickly. Koloko is the only one who's patient and has the post moves to wait for the trap to end because they don't do it permanently.
We have to pass to the bigs on the short roll like Memphis did in the video. But that requires bigs putting the ball on the floor. Tubelis is the best at it but he can only go left and gets stripped a considerable amount when moving with the ball in traffic.Longhorned wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:52 amAgainst the set defense, I can't picture how we'll get the ball to the bigs in that position. I also don't see how we can play Koloko and Ballo together against Houston.RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:59 amCatFanOneMil wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:48 pm Here's a video from how Sampson has setup Houston from last year, still relevant...
How Houston Scores
Yeah I think they're going to play Tubelis out of the game game because of the post trap, he's going to get stripped constantly.
Ballo I think will be similar. We have to get the bigs inside ball so that they don't have to take much of a step or dribble. Even when it looks like we'll have a clear advantage, they're switching will negate that quickly. Koloko is the only one who's patient and has the post moves to wait for the trap to end because they don't do it permanently.
I'm not saying it won't happen, just that Tommy's (and some of you guys's) basketball imagination exceeds my basketball imagination.
Being honest, I'm not sure heavy post entries should ever be a major plan for us. Tubelis needs to make plays on the move, and even Koloko isn't a pound it in big guy.RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:59 amCatFanOneMil wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:48 pm Here's a video from how Sampson has setup Houston from last year, still relevant...
How Houston Scores
Yeah I think they're going to play Tubelis out of the game game because of the post trap, he's going to get stripped constantly.
Ballo I think will be similar. We have to get the bigs inside ball so that they don't have to take much of a step or dribble. Even when it looks like we'll have a clear advantage, they're switching will negate that quickly. Koloko is the only one who's patient and has the post moves to wait for the trap to end because they don't do it permanently.
Who don't need to fall in love with chucking 3s
That's important, especially if they aren't going down. We have the length and athleticism to make plays going to the rim, so that needs to be option 1 every time.
also super important with this team are the type of turnovers. If we turn the ball over trying to lob high/low, or over the top of the D in the half court, that doesn't bug me. Even the tightest angle pass is about 60-70% conversion rate, going to a position where, if controlled, the conversion rate is very high. So a turnover every 3rd or 4th lob to entry (not lob to alley oop...missing those is much more problematic) is still getting a high conversion rate.97cats wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:15 pmyoure more than welcome - in this game Arizona turnovers committed and offensive rebounds for Houston allowed will tell the tale of this gameDrWildcat wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:12 pm
Thanks, that makes sense. Just trying to put some context to the the stats. I do worry about our turnover tendencies with a team like Houston though. But agree that if we play to our potential we will be fine.
If they do shoot well from 3, that will dramatically cut down their offensive rebounding, so I don't think it's as much an overall boost to them as it is for most teams. Their offensive rebounding is from longer rebounds off mid-long range misses, of which there are a LOT. They don't rebound like us (ie. very heavy around the rim).Beachcat97 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:17 am I was gonna ask about Houston's three point shooting, but then quickly remembered that it doesn't matter: they will shoot their highest 3FG% of the season on Thursday. Even TCU was pretty hot from three in the first half, and they are NOT a good three point shooting team.
Of course the Cats will get Houston’s best shot. I guess that is flattering considering everting looks forward to playing Arizona. In many cases it is their Super Bowl.Beachcat97 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:17 am I was gonna ask about Houston's three point shooting, but then quickly remembered that it doesn't matter: they will shoot their highest 3FG% of the season on Thursday. Even TCU was pretty hot from three in the first half, and they are NOT a good three point shooting team.
They ended up shooting like 23% compared to our 18%Beachcat97 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:17 am I was gonna ask about Houston's three point shooting, but then quickly remembered that it doesn't matter: they will shoot their highest 3FG% of the season on Thursday. Even TCU was pretty hot from three in the first half, and they are NOT a good three point shooting team.
zero chance97cats wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:45 am this is exactly what AZ wants - everyone telling them they will lose
perfect thank you everyone i will carry that message with me loud and proud...AZ has no shot in San Antonio
Clearly we've lucked into 33 victories97cats wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:45 am this is exactly what AZ wants - everyone telling them they will lose
perfect thank you everyone i will carry that message with me loud and proud...AZ has no shot in San Antonio
Rob Dauster: "Kerr Kriisa was the best player on TCU."Olsondogg wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:08 am Love, love love being the underdog in this game.
“Kerr Kriisa could have like 17 turnovers this game” —Rob Dauster
Love love love.
This is the thing that gets me. Their shot selection makes for long rebounds. The defense is basically out of position for those. How do you counter? Just sheer effort by our guards and wings?prh wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:35 amIf they do shoot well from 3, that will dramatically cut down their offensive rebounding, so I don't think it's as much an overall boost to them as it is for most teams. Their offensive rebounding is from longer rebounds off mid-long range misses, of which there are a LOT. They don't rebound like us (ie. very heavy around the rim).Beachcat97 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:17 am I was gonna ask about Houston's three point shooting, but then quickly remembered that it doesn't matter: they will shoot their highest 3FG% of the season on Thursday. Even TCU was pretty hot from three in the first half, and they are NOT a good three point shooting team.
All effort and focus. There's a couple factors. One is our desire to leak out for transition buckets. I think trading that leak out for staying home is absolutely worth it. Secondly, can't have our perimeter guys creep/collapse to the rim when the shot is up. Guards and wings gotta move backwards, away from the rim and put a body on someone.Longhorned wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:06 amThis is the thing that gets me. Their shot selection makes for long rebounds. The defense is basically out of position for those. How do you counter? Just sheer effort by our guards and wings?prh wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:35 amIf they do shoot well from 3, that will dramatically cut down their offensive rebounding, so I don't think it's as much an overall boost to them as it is for most teams. Their offensive rebounding is from longer rebounds off mid-long range misses, of which there are a LOT. They don't rebound like us (ie. very heavy around the rim).Beachcat97 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:17 am I was gonna ask about Houston's three point shooting, but then quickly remembered that it doesn't matter: they will shoot their highest 3FG% of the season on Thursday. Even TCU was pretty hot from three in the first half, and they are NOT a good three point shooting team.
It really is interesting. Our defense has been giving up long rebounds all season, but it's been worth it on balance. Now we're facing a team that both makes a living off long offensive rebounds and can defend in transition. So, the calculus changes to accepting a slower pace that, on paper, favors Houston, but in reality speeds Houston up because they're giving up all those refreshed shot clocks if we can grab the defensive boards at the expense of getting out on the run.prh wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:09 amAll effort and focus. There's a couple factors. One is our desire to leak out for transition buckets. I think trading that leak out for staying home is absolutely worth it. Secondly, can't have our perimeter guys creep/collapse to the rim when the shot is up. Guards and wings gotta move backwards, away from the rim and put a body on someone.Longhorned wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:06 amThis is the thing that gets me. Their shot selection makes for long rebounds. The defense is basically out of position for those. How do you counter? Just sheer effort by our guards and wings?prh wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:35 amIf they do shoot well from 3, that will dramatically cut down their offensive rebounding, so I don't think it's as much an overall boost to them as it is for most teams. Their offensive rebounding is from longer rebounds off mid-long range misses, of which there are a LOT. They don't rebound like us (ie. very heavy around the rim).Beachcat97 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:17 am I was gonna ask about Houston's three point shooting, but then quickly remembered that it doesn't matter: they will shoot their highest 3FG% of the season on Thursday. Even TCU was pretty hot from three in the first half, and they are NOT a good three point shooting team.
I was gonna pick our score in the 80s, but Houston's opponents only score 60ppg! I do think we'll impose our style of play and make them uncomfortable, but I think overall the game will be slightly lower scoring. If we put up 83 on these chumps, I agree: it won't be that close.azcat49 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:53 am And don’t forget to start an overrated chant at just the right time to motivate Mathurin.
Cats 83-68 Thursday night
Or, when defending so many jump shots: If you're out of position from switching, does it finally work in your favor to be a tall guy away from the basket who can tip or grab so many long rebounds?IndianaZonaFan wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:32 am 79-70 Cats.
Also good point by RS. We switch a lot. It will be interesting to see if we switch less often against this team in order to get a body on everyone.
Also, if they are so busy offensive rebounding, we should be able to run it on them when we grab the boards on D.
Given what happened in the last game, I HAVE to think Larsson and Kriisa are going to shoot better on Thursday. These guys have been huge for us all season, and I imagine they're both eager to splash some threes this week.CatFanOneMil wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:38 am
If Pelle and Krissa and Terry are hitting threes its a route...if the threes are not falling we probably win the rebound battle because its a long bounce...
I just don't see what options Houston has that we have not already dealt with this season.
I agree, Tubelis may actually be the X-factor here...not on Houstons radar, and the other guys its a matter of the averages catching up...Beachcat97 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:55 amGiven what happened in the last game, I HAVE to think Larsson and Kriisa are going to shoot better on Thursday. These guys have been huge for us all season, and I imagine they're both eager to splash some threes this week.CatFanOneMil wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:38 am
If Pelle and Krissa and Terry are hitting threes its a route...if the threes are not falling we probably win the rebound battle because its a long bounce...
I just don't see what options Houston has that we have not already dealt with this season.
I expect a better game from Tubelis too.
Rob's colleague Jeff Goodman had Illinois in the Final Four.RaisingArizona wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:06 amRob Dauster: "Kerr Kriisa was the best player on TCU."Olsondogg wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:08 am Love, love love being the underdog in this game.
“Kerr Kriisa could have like 17 turnovers this game” —Rob Dauster
Love love love.
Narrator: Arizona was +27 with Kerr Kriisa on the floor
That and the tendency to leak out on a fast break plays into it too.RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:22 am Our constant defensive switching just puts us in bad rebounding situations sometimes.