Bear Down Wildcats

Alieberman wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:59 pm Do we know what year it was the last time a head coach from AZ left because he wasn't fired?

azcat49 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:50 pm Larry Smith

Agreed on all points Harvey. It might be wifespeak but she sounded tired of the constant moves and they sure seem to be enjoying the sunshine.

His love for all things Spurrier might warrant a look at Florida if he has that kind of success and at that point we will be elated at our fortunes under him

azgreg wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:39 pm Here we go.

UAEebs86 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:14 pm

azcat49 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:50 pm Larry Smith

Agreed on all points Harvey. It might be wifespeak but she sounded tired of the constant moves and they sure seem to be enjoying the sunshine.

His love for all things Spurrier might warrant a look at Florida if he has that kind of success and at that point we will be elated at our fortunes under him

That's what I was thinking too. She's got to be tired of having to move the kids to a new town and school every 2 years.

And if mama ain't happy, nobody's happy.

Alieberman wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:59 pm Are we really worrying about an AZ football coach being too successful that he is being recruited elsewhere?

Really?

Do we know what year it was the last time a head coach from AZ left because he wasn't fired?

Chicat wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:46 pm
4 star DLineman formerly at UCLA and with offers last year from literally everywhere.

Chicat wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:46 pm 4 star DLineman formerly at UCLA and with offers last year from literally everywhere.

Alieberman wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:59 pm Are we really worrying about an AZ football coach being too successful that he is being recruited elsewhere?

Really?

Do we know what year it was the last time a head coach from AZ left because he wasn't fired?

CopaCat wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:01 pm

Chicat wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:46 pm
4 star DLineman formerly at UCLA and with offers last year from literally everywhere.

Looks like the Nansen hire is paying dividends. Build them lines Jedd.

Sid wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:34 am

CopaCat wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:01 pm

Chicat wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:46 pm
4 star DLineman formerly at UCLA and with offers last year from literally everywhere.

Looks like the Nansen hire is paying dividends. Build them lines Jedd.

Two things. 1.) The Jedi just kicked Lincoln Riley’s ass, sc wanted him bad!
2.) The Polynesian pipeline is back!!!

Chicat wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:51 pm You can’t convince me that’s not the guy who tiled my basement shower.

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:01 am

Chicat wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:51 pm You can’t convince me that’s not the guy who tiled my basement shower.

I'm not sure we can convince a guy with a mullet/moustache combo like that to leave the South, but that might just be my stereotype brain.

Say what you want about Fisch, and I certainly have, he definitely seems to understand what you have to do in the modern football landscape as Arizona. He's recruited hard in HS and also positioned us as a transfer option for kids unhappy about PT or who had coaches leave on them like De Laura or Savea.

That's 100% right because Arizona Football has to maximize all opportunities, especially with the roster he was left. The immediate eligibility change for first time transfers lets you build much faster than you could.

cerec_cat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:15 am I really don't understand some of these transfers though. If a player is really that great, unless it is a coaching change or wants to upgrade the team he is on, why transfer? Don't they expect some competition?

azgreg wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:28 am

cerec_cat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:15 am I really don't understand some of these transfers though. If a player is really that great, unless it is a coaching change or wants to upgrade the team he is on, why transfer? Don't they expect some competition?

have you ever accepted a job and within a week or so realized you made a huge error?

azgreg wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:28 am

cerec_cat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:15 am I really don't understand some of these transfers though. If a player is really that great, unless it is a coaching change or wants to upgrade the team he is on, why transfer? Don't they expect some competition?

have you ever accepted a job and within a few months to a couple years realized you made a huge error?

cerec_cat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:34 am

azgreg wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:28 am

cerec_cat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:15 am I really don't understand some of these transfers though. If a player is really that great, unless it is a coaching change or wants to upgrade the team he is on, why transfer? Don't they expect some competition?

have you ever accepted a job and within a week or so realized you made a huge error?

Believe my I am very happy with the transfers, but it seems like some of these players ( and I am not only talking about our school), could have probably beat out the new players coming in.

azgreg wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:28 am

cerec_cat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:15 am I really don't understand some of these transfers though. If a player is really that great, unless it is a coaching change or wants to upgrade the team he is on, why transfer? Don't they expect some competition?

have you ever accepted a job and within a week or so realized you made a huge error?

cerec_cat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:15 am I really don't understand some of these transfers though. If a player is really that great, unless it is a coaching change or wants to upgrade the team he is on, why transfer? Don't they expect some competition?

Chicat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:42 am

cerec_cat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:34 am

azgreg wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:28 am

cerec_cat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:15 am I really don't understand some of these transfers though. If a player is really that great, unless it is a coaching change or wants to upgrade the team he is on, why transfer? Don't they expect some competition?

have you ever accepted a job and within a week or so realized you made a huge error?

Believe my I am very happy with the transfers, but it seems like some of these players ( and I am not only talking about our school), could have probably beat out the new players coming in.

There are all kinds of reasons to transfer. Social (girlfriend goes to a different school, homesick), economic (family can’t afford to travel to see you play or NIL opportunities), academic (current school doesn’t offer a program or won’t set them up for life after football), and athletic (scheme, S&C, competition, exposure, coaching, etc).

I would be willing to bet that for a lot of these kids there are a mix of reasons where transferring becomes the best option.

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:14 am

Chicat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:42 am

cerec_cat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:34 am

azgreg wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:28 am

cerec_cat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:15 am I really don't understand some of these transfers though. If a player is really that great, unless it is a coaching change or wants to upgrade the team he is on, why transfer? Don't they expect some competition?

have you ever accepted a job and within a week or so realized you made a huge error?

Believe my I am very happy with the transfers, but it seems like some of these players ( and I am not only talking about our school), could have probably beat out the new players coming in.

There are all kinds of reasons to transfer. Social (girlfriend goes to a different school, homesick), economic (family can’t afford to travel to see you play or NIL opportunities), academic (current school doesn’t offer a program or won’t set them up for life after football), and athletic (scheme, S&C, competition, exposure, coaching, etc).

I would be willing to bet that for a lot of these kids there are a mix of reasons where transferring becomes the best option.

Yes. If you go to any P5 school, you were a big star in HS. All of a sudden, you're homesick and sitting the bench. Maybe a position coach leaves.

I went to HS in Las Vegas and wasn't really ready for a cold weather college. Snow was fun the first couple times for the novelty, then I remember freezing my ass off and hating it. Sometimes it's even as simple as weather playing a role. Fans underrate the basic human factors because they can view players solely as commodities through the lens of playing time.

Chicat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:42 am My wife transferred from Indiana University to Arizona because her freshman year roommate was from LA and ended up hating the cold. The roommate transferred to UA for 2nd semester freshman year and then every time they talked she begged my wife to transfer there too. So she did, we met, and 25 years later we’ve got two kids a dog and a mortgage (unfortunately in Indiana, not in Tucson but oh well…).

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:58 am

Chicat wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:42 am My wife transferred from Indiana University to Arizona because her freshman year roommate was from LA and ended up hating the cold. The roommate transferred to UA for 2nd semester freshman year and then every time they talked she begged my wife to transfer there too. So she did, we met, and 25 years later we’ve got two kids a dog and a mortgage (unfortunately in Indiana, not in Tucson but oh well…).

I always say an unspoken thing on player transfers should be that you're dealing with 19 year olds.

At 19, a lot of things were a big deal to me that wouldn't register these days at 40. The value of hard work, earning stuff over time...I didn't have near the perspective on it at 19 as I do these days.

azgreg wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:30 am What the hell is Scheer talking about here?

dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:26 am

azgreg wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:30 am What the hell is Scheer talking about here?

Kicker??

Schools frequently have them walk on.

dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:26 am Kicker??

Schools frequently have them walk on.

DrWildcat wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:45 am

dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:26 am

azgreg wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:30 am What the hell is Scheer talking about here?

Kicker??

Schools frequently have them walk on.

If it is not a kicker than Jason is for sure overselling it/clickbait. Guessing it is a kid that had a 4-star HS rating but has fallen hard. I mean it isn't a bad thing to get someone like that, but I'm sure there is a reason he isn't getting a scholarship anywhere at the D1 level.

dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:26 am

azgreg wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:30 am What the hell is Scheer talking about here?

Kicker??

Schools frequently have them walk on.

azgreg wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:23 am

dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:26 am

azgreg wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:30 am What the hell is Scheer talking about here?

Kicker??

Schools frequently have them walk on.

If it was a kicker I don't think Scheer would put out that tweet and write an article on it.

gronk4heisman wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:25 am Additionally, we have a returning Freshman kicker who made 12/12 FGs and 12/12 XPs (wow or offense was bad if we only kicked 12 XP's)

Chicat wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:46 pm 4 star DLineman formerly at UCLA and with offers last year from literally everywhere.