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If it's never filled, guess what? It needs to decrease. Talk shit about Tucson all you want, but if 50,000 Tucsonans don't turn out for the program there's only one way to not look like shit and make money.PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:21 am Seating does not need to decrease. It had already happened and will when seats go on the west side
Tucson need to pick it up. Weak ass attendance
Tucson does not deserve a winner if they continue to not support the program
Win?ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:26 amIf it's never filled, guess what? It needs to decrease. Talk shit about Tucson all you want, but if 50,000 Tucsonans don't turn out for the program there's only one way to not look like shit and make money.PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:21 am Seating does not need to decrease. It had already happened and will when seats go on the west side
Tucson need to pick it up. Weak ass attendance
Tucson does not deserve a winner if they continue to not support the program
Team wins and Tucson doesn't show upCarcassdragger wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:31 amWin?ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:26 amIf it's never filled, guess what? It needs to decrease. Talk shit about Tucson all you want, but if 50,000 Tucsonans don't turn out for the program there's only one way to not look like shit and make money.PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:21 am Seating does not need to decrease. It had already happened and will when seats go on the west side
Tucson need to pick it up. Weak ass attendance
Tucson does not deserve a winner if they continue to not support the program
Something we don't do consistently ever. Even when we do win we pretty much lose immediately afterwards, so the culture can literally never be built and is immediately sabotaged by our own ineptitude. This is Arizona Football.Carcassdragger wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:31 amWin?ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:26 amIf it's never filled, guess what? It needs to decrease. Talk shit about Tucson all you want, but if 50,000 Tucsonans don't turn out for the program there's only one way to not look like shit and make money.PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:21 am Seating does not need to decrease. It had already happened and will when seats go on the west side
Tucson need to pick it up. Weak ass attendance
Tucson does not deserve a winner if they continue to not support the program
I think it would be more accurate to say that Tucson has low interest, win or lose....Merkin wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:56 am Cats are oh-fer in winning sole conference football championships in both the WAC and PAC eras, and doubt I will see one in my lifetime in the B12. Right ECC?
How many programs can say that?
Tucson just has low expectations hence low excitement for the program.
Agree with all this. While some can't get enough of 'the Big XII is a terrible truck stop' analogy, a tiny bit of respect should go to league-leading 5-1 Texas Tech. But, I flew in for the game, and we did look like shit. Somebody mentioned a series of bad breaks, but it really seems like poorly disciplined teams always get more of those. For example, the penalty for the players crowding out onto the field is directly on the coaching staff. Adkins (to the extent he has any autonomy) needs to cut back the slow wide running plays and probably a few less home run balls. I'm pretty sure Brennan gets directly involved in some of that. Everybody hates him for good reason, but Fisch (granted with more receiver talent) tailored his offense to Fifita on the fly, which no doubt included throwing lanes for a short QB. In any event, people are certainly free to vent, and those who wish we were more like Gonzaga or Creighton or Marquette, unburdened by a struggling football team, can dream on, but football's been shown to be the driver in the conference realignment and media wars, and we'll have a game at BYU Saturday regardless.Merkin wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:37 amI read an analysis of the offense yesterday, and wish I would have shared it but didn't really understand it.Chicat wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:29 am Choo said it far better than I could. Biggest difference to me is that last year Noah was able to get the ball out quick and keep defenses on their heels. This year the routes all seem to take 6+ seconds and Noah is either running for his life or throwing to guys who are covered. We aren’t catching anyone by surprise with anything we are doing. That’s a big damn problem.
The gist was last season was 1,2,3 ball out with a lot of play action and short over the middle throws. Now it's 4,5,6 ball out. The running plays are extremely slow developing. Times you see a handoff to a running back that is not moving.
The grandfather of UA social media sites has a lot to say on that.
https://x.com/WSRBrad
Although I am not really sure why Fifita can't see open receivers now and if he does he misses them. I know he's shorter than the average QB, but he saw them fine last season. T-Mac also seems banged up. A step slow and trying to one hand catches.
The argument for him not seeing the field is that hes playing mostly under center this season so hes already having his view blocked before he even snaps the ball, and then the line is moving as he moves back so he doesnt have the windows to see through like he would if he was taking snaps from shotgun.Merkin wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:37 amI read an analysis of the offense yesterday, and wish I would have shared it but didn't really understand it.Chicat wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:29 am Choo said it far better than I could. Biggest difference to me is that last year Noah was able to get the ball out quick and keep defenses on their heels. This year the routes all seem to take 6+ seconds and Noah is either running for his life or throwing to guys who are covered. We aren’t catching anyone by surprise with anything we are doing. That’s a big damn problem.
The gist was last season was 1,2,3 ball out with a lot of play action and short over the middle throws. Now it's 4,5,6 ball out. The running plays are extremely slow developing. Times you see a handoff to a running back that is not moving.
The grandfather of UA social media sites has a lot to say on that.
https://x.com/WSRBrad
Although I am not really sure why Fifita can't see open receivers now and if he does he misses them. I know he's shorter than the average QB, but he saw them fine last season. T-Mac also seems banged up. A step slow and trying to one hand catches.
Gunner likely is too.
The TT cheerleader guy would take their big flag, cross the field and stand in front of our band and cheerleaders and wave the flag after every score.RawleArenas wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:30 amCatsby, you know what sparked that whole diatribe about Brennan? It's an unspoken rule among sportsmen that you never show up your opponent. You respect the game and your opponent by your conduct on the field. In the first half I watched Texas Tech go for a two point conversion when there was no reason to do so. It was a display of dominance and lack of respect for our team. I haven't heard one person on this board or any other speak on this, but that put me over the edge.CatsbyAZ wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:21 amI caution against sweeping conclusions after a loss, especially a loss followed by a truly great road performance Vs a 10th ranked Utah. But the high/low quality of the past two weeks is how I figured our season would go - strong enough to win any game on the schedule but inconsistent enough to lose most any game on the schedule.RawleArenas wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:59 am I write this post with a heavy heart. I really wanted the Brennan Experiment to work, I really did. I held back on my initial impressions on the coaching staff until I watched them play the first two games, after which it became readily apparent that we are simply not built to compete at a high level.
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We should've beat Texas Tech. But nothing went right for Arizona to start the game - for example getting stuffed on 4th&1 deep on TT's side of the field. And before we knew it Arizona was in an 18-3 hole. Then we fought back for a brief lead before, again, nothing went right - the fumble that resulted in a quick TT touchdown to put Arizona behind 28-19. Texas Tech is not as good as their 4-1 record shows, with more often than not ugly performances (Vs Abilene Christian, Washington State, and Cincinnati).
The rest of the way is impossible to predict, and for as lukewarm as the Big 12 is, with no immovable objects, we've drawn the hardest matches according to rankings/records - with Kansas St (non-C), Utah, and Texas Tech all 4-1. Arizona's next two are BYU at 5-0 and Colorado at 4-1. We've missed out on the lighter fare of Cincinnati, Houston, TCU, Baylor, and Kansas. Lot's of deadweight in the Big 12.
You remember the Kadeem timeout and how the fanbase got behind Miller? What about when Wazzu tried to do the same thing last year in Pullman and Fisch stuffed the two point conversion and we proceeded to score 44 unanswered points? We sent a message, crushed the Cougs spirits and destroyed their season (at least in my mind). Now when you have Batman, Wolverine and the Green Lantern on your team (our first rounders), you have no excuse to get embarrassed like that. That told me everything I needed to know about what kind of leader we had. There's no way on earth a coach should allow that to happen. After watching that kind of display, I would leave at halftime too like some of the other fans.
You know how many fans keep saying that we suffered major losses in terms of players and we should lower our expectations? Too many to count. You know who also suffered a lot of losses before taking the helm? Tommy Lloyd. We lost Akinjo (first team Pac) Terrell Brown (future Pac scoring leader) Jordan Brown (Pac 6th man) and Batcho (defensive swiss army knife). We still had talent, but no one expected us to make any waves or to field a super competitive team. All we got in return was Larsson, Ballo and Kier. What did Lloyd do? He quickly proved his worth and installed a new scheme, developed players and got us ranked before we hit conference play. He then proceeded to win the conference title, tournament title, secure a number 1 seed and make the sweet sixteen. No one had us being ranked before the season started. We were ranked and now we look unfocused and ragged. Tommy never complained about not having 'his guys' in order to win. He just simply did what good coaches do: perform.
Please remember what twat means.
Because we can admit our team is bad? Really?
Do you feel better now that you’ve had your little tantrum? Poor baby.
What move exactly?RawleArenas wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:32 pm I didn't have anything personal with Brennan, but I do now. I think it's selfish to put yourself out there as the savior/good guy, when in reality the move was good for him, but not for Arizona and its fans. He pulled an end around and tried to get the fanbase on his side, while pulling the same stuff that gave him losing records at SJSU. Unfortunately, its gonna backfire badly, if it hasn't already.
Betting against this team has been a money maker.AZarchery wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:38 pmWe’re 1-4 against the spread this year with that one cover coming against a fluke of a Utah game. If Vegas truly knows more than anyone here, vegas is telling us this coaching staff underperforming big time.PHXCATS wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:42 pm Been five games with a new staff
Every needs to chill. Things will be fine
BYU only favored by 3. Vegas knows more than anyone here
BYU -3.5 is a farm bet.
Townie doesn't know ballCalStateTempe wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 6:39 pm Brennens a loser, failed at SJSU, and will/has failed here.
But it let the OGs feel good for a little while.
This team is poorly coached trash.
I don’t think you know the definition of the word townie as someone who has loudly proclaimed their love for Arcadia sports barz sky harbor Phoenix is the pinnacle of western civilian while shouting down all informed criticism of team with “bad fan rants”PHXCATS wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:06 pmTownie doesn't know ballCalStateTempe wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 6:39 pm Brennens a loser, failed at SJSU, and will/has failed here.
But it let the OGs feel good for a little while.
This team is poorly coached trash.
Townie won't write a check
Don't be townie
AZarchery wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:54 pmBetting against this team has been a money maker.AZarchery wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:38 pmWe’re 1-4 against the spread this year with that one cover coming against a fluke of a Utah game. If Vegas truly knows more than anyone here, vegas is telling us this coaching staff underperforming big time.PHXCATS wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:42 pm Been five games with a new staff
Every needs to chill. Things will be fine
BYU only favored by 3. Vegas knows more than anyone here
BYU -3.5 is a farm bet.
Over/under is 4.5 yearsCalStateTempe wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:56 am We are hot garbage. Can’t wait till Brennen is fired. Gonna have to wait a long time.