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chiefzona wrote:https://youtu.be/74q6TImzVLQ

Very interesting discussion. First, Hansen takes so much shit from most people, but he's clearly in the know and understands the issues. He's texting Ced Dempsey six weeks ago and basically getting a confirmation on Heeke. Second, I guess I never really personally appreciated the sub-par fan experience at Arizona Stadium because I only make it to a game every several years. I did go to the Hawaii game last season and sat on the lower West side 50-yard line. Great view, but yeah very uncomfortable for this 50-yo's fat ass. Especially for 4 hours with all the TV timeouts, reviews and such. That's a long time on a metal plank. I was well past ready to leave by the start of the 4th quarter (but would definitely stay for the duration most nights given a good game). Could really care less about bathrooms and concessions. As a dude I really don't care about the quality of the pissing accommodations. Yes, the west-side restrooms are steamy-hot concrete bunkers reeking of urine, but so what. Whip it out and move on. Overall, however, I can see how a regular attendee/season ticket holder would expect more in this day and age. Leading to third, yes Heeke faces a tall order on fundraising to improve the stadium experience, indoor practice facility and other big ticket items.

What are the ins and outs of the Student Fee issue? Seems like Hansen and Finley implied the was the beginning of the end and/or the writing on the wall for the end of the Byrne era . . . fundraising will continue to be an uphill battle for Arizona Athletics.

BearDown89 wrote:

chiefzona wrote:https://youtu.be/74q6TImzVLQ

Very interesting discussion. First, Hansen takes so much shit from most people, but he's clearly in the know and understands the issues. He's texting Ced Dempsey six weeks ago and basically getting a confirmation on Heeke. Second, I guess I never really personally appreciated the sub-par fan experience at Arizona Stadium because I only make it to a game every several years. I did go to the Hawaii game last season and sat on the lower West side 50-yard line. Great view, but yeah very uncomfortable for this 50-yo's fat ass. Especially for 4 hours with all the TV timeouts, reviews and such. That's a long time on a metal plank. I was well past ready to leave by the start of the 4th quarter (but would definitely stay for the duration most nights given a good game). Could really care less about bathrooms and concessions. As a dude I really don't care about the quality of the pissing accommodations. Yes, the west-side restrooms are steamy-hot concrete bunkers reeking of urine, but so what. Whip it out and move on. Overall, however, I can see how a regular attendee/season ticket holder would expect more in this day and age. Leading to third, yes Heeke faces a tall order on fundraising to improve the stadium experience, indoor practice facility and other big ticket items.

What are the ins and outs of the Student Fee issue? Seems like Hansen and Finley implied the was the beginning of the end and/or the writing on the wall for the end of the Byrne era . . . fundraising will continue to be an uphill battle for Arizona Athletics.

I believe that Byrne was smart enough to know that the next phase of fund raising would be the most difficult phase. We shall see if Heeke is up to the task. I don't know nor have heard much about the student fee.

Well no one said "yikes" like Chief did. Lots of work to do. The students need to come to terms with the fee because it puts us at a huge competitive disadvantage.

azcat49 wrote:Well no one said "yikes" like Chief did. Lots of work to do. The students need to come to terms with the fee because it puts us at a huge competitive disadvantage.

We'll get initial push back on the fee, but after a few years no one will even notice it.

azcat49 wrote:Well no one said "yikes" like Chief did. Lots of work to do. The students need to come to terms with the fee because it puts us at a huge competitive disadvantage.

Uncle Greg's first line was...."Probably the best they could get." In Chiefese that is translated as "Yikes".

chiefzona wrote:

azcat49 wrote:Well no one said "yikes" like Chief did. Lots of work to do. The students need to come to terms with the fee because it puts us at a huge competitive disadvantage.

Uncle Greg's first line was...."Probably the best they could get." In Chiefese that is translated as "Yikes".

That doesn't make it a yikes. Arizona is slotted in a certain range when it comes to basketball coaches, football coaches, and athletic directors. Arizona can obviously land a better basketball coach than a football coach and an athletic director for obvious reasons. Arizona's primary candidates were the ADs from Central Michigan and Kansas State. That's about the pool we're always pulling from. Our prior ADs came from Mississippi State and Wazzu.

From what I understand there were two groups of people involved in this hire, one preferred Heeke and the other preferred Currie. The Heeke group won out. Either way if you wanna argue that Arizona didn't land a P5 AD and say yikes about that then fair enough, but Arizona isn't going to lure away a very accomplished AD at a major P5 school, we just don't have the endless supply of income to ever get one of those. I'm just happy we didn't go the USC route where we hired an unqualified alum or the ASU route where we hired a guy with zero AD experience.

I like that Chief is still beating that "Byrne jumped ship right before the iceberg" line. As if if the football team had won 8 games and donors were lining up for the indoor practice facility, Byrne would have said no to Bama.

Chicat wrote:I like that Chief is still beating that "Byrne jumped ship right before the iceberg" line. As if if the football team had won 8 games and donors were lining up for the indoor practice facility, Byrne would have said no to Bama.

The thing that I like about it is that I mentioned Byrne's possible departure last year because I had my suspicions. I voiced those opinions and was told by many that Byrne would not leave...that he was specifically waiting for a commissioner position to open. I knew that he would get a good AD job offer before that would happen and it did. Byrne was gonzo regardless.

chiefzona wrote:

Chicat wrote:I like that Chief is still beating that "Byrne jumped ship right before the iceberg" line. As if if the football team had won 8 games and donors were lining up for the indoor practice facility, Byrne would have said no to Bama.

The thing that I like about it is that I mentioned Byrne's possible departure last year because I had my suspicions. I voiced those opinions and was told by many that Byrne would not leave...that he was specifically waiting for a commissioner position to open. I knew that he would get a good AD job offer before that would happen and it did. Byrne was gonzo regardless.

"Regardless" is a silly word to use.

Chicat wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Chicat wrote:I like that Chief is still beating that "Byrne jumped ship right before the iceberg" line. As if if the football team had won 8 games and donors were lining up for the indoor practice facility, Byrne would have said no to Bama.

The thing that I like about it is that I mentioned Byrne's possible departure last year because I had my suspicions. I voiced those opinions and was told by many that Byrne would not leave...that he was specifically waiting for a commissioner position to open. I knew that he would get a good AD job offer before that would happen and it did. Byrne was gonzo regardless.

"Regardless" is a silly word to use.

re·gard·less
rəˈɡärdləs/
adverb
without paying attention to the present situation; despite the prevailing circumstances.
"they were determined to carry on regardless"

So if Florida Atlantic came calling, he was gone? GTFO

Chicat wrote:So if Florida Atlantic came calling, he was gone? GTFO

Man, you're like the media. HAHA! No. We all know he was suited for a "top tier" AD job and that it was going to happen sooner than later. The world of college football is an ever-changing process and never a stasis.

chiefzona wrote:

Chicat wrote:So if Florida Atlantic came calling, he was gone? GTFO

Man, you're like the media. HAHA! No. We all know he was suited for a "top tier" AD job and that it was going to happen sooner than later. The world of college football is an ever-changing process and never a stasis.

So .... not regardless. Got it.

Chicat wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Chicat wrote:So if Florida Atlantic came calling, he was gone? GTFO

Man, you're like the media. HAHA! No. We all know he was suited for a "top tier" AD job and that it was going to happen sooner than later. The world of college football is an ever-changing process and never a stasis.

So .... not regardless. Got it.

He was leaving, regardless. He knew a top tier position was coming. He's a very smart man.

chiefzona wrote:

Chicat wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Chicat wrote:So if Florida Atlantic came calling, he was gone? GTFO

Man, you're like the media. HAHA! No. We all know he was suited for a "top tier" AD job and that it was going to happen sooner than later. The world of college football is an ever-changing process and never a stasis.

So .... not regardless. Got it.

He was leaving, regardless. He knew a top tier position was coming. He's a very smart man.

is that why he didn't take the florida job?

ASUHATER! wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Chicat wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Chicat wrote:So if Florida Atlantic came calling, he was gone? GTFO

Man, you're like the media. HAHA! No. We all know he was suited for a "top tier" AD job and that it was going to happen sooner than later. The world of college football is an ever-changing process and never a stasis.

So .... not regardless. Got it.

He was leaving, regardless. He knew a top tier position was coming. He's a very smart man.

is that why he didn't take the florida job?

He was never offered the Florida job.

chiefzona wrote:

Chicat wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Chicat wrote:So if Florida Atlantic came calling, he was gone? GTFO

Man, you're like the media. HAHA! No. We all know he was suited for a "top tier" AD job and that it was going to happen sooner than later. The world of college football is an ever-changing process and never a stasis.

So .... not regardless. Got it.

He was leaving, regardless. He knew a top tier position was coming. He's a very smart man.

He left for a better job, yes he is a genius. How astute of you to predict such an outcome knowing his children were all done with high school.

ChooChooCat wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Chicat wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Chicat wrote:So if Florida Atlantic came calling, he was gone? GTFO

Man, you're like the media. HAHA! No. We all know he was suited for a "top tier" AD job and that it was going to happen sooner than later. The world of college football is an ever-changing process and never a stasis.

So .... not regardless. Got it.

He was leaving, regardless. He knew a top tier position was coming. He's a very smart man.

He left for a better job, yes he is a genius. How astute of you to predict such an outcome knowing his children were all done with high school.

Thanks. I appreciate it.

Chief,

Random question kinda off topic/on topic. If you were AD, you fire RR at the end of the year, who are your top 3 realistic guys you'd go after to replace him?

ChooChooCat wrote:Chief,

Random question kinda off topic/on topic. If you were AD, you fire RR at the end of the year, who are your top 3 realistic guys you'd go after to replace him?

Craig Bohl - Wyoming.

BearDown89 wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Chief,

Random question kinda off topic/on topic. If you were AD, you fire RR at the end of the year, who are your top 3 realistic guys you'd go after to replace him?

Craig Bohl - Wyoming.

Interesting choice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Bohl" target="_blank

Looks like he can win (for the most part) but can he recruit?

ChooChooCat wrote:Chief,

Random question kinda off topic/on topic. If you were AD, you fire RR at the end of the year, who are your top 3 realistic guys you'd go after to replace him?

Tee Martin
Scott Frost
Tosh Lupoi
Ken Niumatalolo

They all can recruit there asses off and that's what Arizona needs. Arizona has been plagued with recruitless coaches who cannot tap into Cali good enough. These guys can do it. Sure, I think there are much better choices for HC but I would go after these guys. Young and vivacious....hungry. Attainable. West coast ties.

BearDown89 wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Chief,

Random question kinda off topic/on topic. If you were AD, you fire RR at the end of the year, who are your top 3 realistic guys you'd go after to replace him?

Craig Bohl - Wyoming.

I do like him.

chiefzona wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Chief,

Random question kinda off topic/on topic. If you were AD, you fire RR at the end of the year, who are your top 3 realistic guys you'd go after to replace him?

Tee Martin
Scott Frost
Tosh Lupoi
Ken Niumatalolo

They all can recruit there asses off and that's what Arizona needs. Arizona has been plagued with recruitless coaches who cannot tap into Cali good enough. These guys can do it. Sure, I think there are much better choices for HC but I would go after these guys. Young and vivacious....hungry. Attainable. West coast ties.

Would KN run the bone at AZ? Always wonder if those academy coaches recruit or if the academy recruits for them. He turned down his alma matter BYU so I doubt we could get him

azcat49 wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Chief,

Random question kinda off topic/on topic. If you were AD, you fire RR at the end of the year, who are your top 3 realistic guys you'd go after to replace him?

Tee Martin
Scott Frost
Tosh Lupoi
Ken Niumatalolo

They all can recruit there asses off and that's what Arizona needs. Arizona has been plagued with recruitless coaches who cannot tap into Cali good enough. These guys can do it. Sure, I think there are much better choices for HC but I would go after these guys. Young and vivacious....hungry. Attainable. West coast ties.

Would KN run the bone at AZ? Always wonder if those academy coaches recruit or if the academy recruits for them. He turned down his alma matter BYU so I doubt we could get him

I think he'd run another scheme. Those academy coaches recruit their tails off. They have very strict school limitations as far as height and weight for lineman, etc. Ken would be a tough get for sure.

azgreg wrote:

No fire. Arizona needs passion, fire, and determination.

LOL OK program cancer. To each his own

azcat49 wrote:LOL OK program cancer. To each his own

The program cancer is mediocrity. It always has been. Think about that.

Does Tom Jurich have fire, or does he just have KFC Yum! & papa John's money

I will but you are.

chiefzona wrote:

azgreg wrote:

No fire. Arizona needs passion, fire, and determination.

Lol what?

Just met Dave Heeke... seems like a nice guy

Alieberman wrote:Just met Dave Heeke... seems like a nice guy

Yeah, but does he have fire?

ChooChooCat wrote:

Alieberman wrote:Just met Dave Heeke... seems like a nice guy

Yeah, but does he have fire?

Actually he is a pretty lousy keynote speaker!

Heard he has already made greats strides with Arte Moreno. Guess Arte hated GB

Alieberman wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

Alieberman wrote:Just met Dave Heeke... seems like a nice guy

Yeah, but does he have fire?

Actually he is a pretty lousy keynote speaker!

He is not gifted in the speech department for sure.

azcat49 wrote:Heard he has already made greats strides with Arte Moreno. Guess Arte hated GB

Arte just stays clear.

chiefzona wrote:

azgreg wrote:

No fire. Arizona needs passion, fire, and determination.

Every press conference, he should bring someone dressed as Sparky out, then beat them to within an inch of their life, light the podium on fire and walk out to the strains of "Rock you like a hurricane." That's fire.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

azgreg wrote:

No fire. Arizona needs passion, fire, and determination.

Every press conference, he should bring someone dressed as Sparky out, then beat them to within an inch of their life, light the podium on fire and walk out to the strains of "Rock you like a hurricane." That's fire.

That's a KISS concert.

chiefzona wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

azgreg wrote:

No fire. Arizona needs passion, fire, and determination.

Every press conference, he should bring someone dressed as Sparky out, then beat them to within an inch of their life, light the podium on fire and walk out to the strains of "Rock you like a hurricane." That's fire.

That's a KISS concert.

I thought that was a typical Tuesday at Chief's house of fire?

ChooChooCat wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

azgreg wrote:

No fire. Arizona needs passion, fire, and determination.

Every press conference, he should bring someone dressed as Sparky out, then beat them to within an inch of their life, light the podium on fire and walk out to the strains of "Rock you like a hurricane." That's fire.

That's a KISS concert.

I thought that was a typical Tuesday at Chief's house of fire?

More like a Saturday night.

chiefzona wrote:

More like a Saturday night.

Met Heeke last night at the Diamondbacks game. Real genuine. Doesn't give you the same impression as Byrne after talking to him, but you trust him more. Arizona is in good hands with Heeke. Some of these things may have been in the works already but I am impressed so far and the indoor facility is happening soon.

Admit it Chief. You like Heeke more now.

I’m impressed he pulled the trigger on Rich Rod....Someone posted a tweet about never seeing Heeke this angry before after the ASU Debacle.....I’m hoping that he’d already made the decision to fire him but the timing had to be done in the new year for financial reasons.

In any case, this is the first big test for him and I hope he hits it out of the park.....it’s looking good so far though.

Chicat wrote:

Admit it Chief. You like Heeke more now.

No. He was late to the party.

Heeke, so far, been very good. Seems honest and forthright, and absolutely made the right call firing RR. Got the indoor practice facility approved and funded, though that had been in the works at least he got it finally submitted, along with some other athletic facility upgrade money for the stadium, aquatics, and softball stadium.

Thought he was very upfront all football season not pleased with attendance and said he was listening from all angles on how to improve attendance and the fan experience. New coach should help there if he hires well. Now his big test is this football hire, and navigating the athletic department the next few years to clear out these scandals and hopefully be on the watch, and train all his charges, so no new ones pop up.