Bear Down Wildcats

gronk4heisman

They're going to lose guys. They lose their best player, Smith, who's a senior, and I would expect they'll lose at least two from this group: Riley, Bernard, Hill, Singleton. Chris Smith is not their best player, nor do they for sure lose him. The trio of juniors in Tyger, Jaquez and Juzang is goin...

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They're going to lose guys. They lose their best player, Smith, who's a senior, and I would expect they'll lose at least two from this group: Riley, Bernard, Hill, Singleton. They have some talent coming in. They may well also wind up where it isn't really about us, either. I feel like when you're ...

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If we end up with these major pieces: Akinjo Kerr Benn Tubelis And then include Terry, Koloko, Brown...that’s top 2 for sure. If we can also get Eason and Tyty....that’s 1st in PAC, top 10 team...Arizona Good. Even with Eason and Tyty, if UCLA returns everyone they would be very hard to beat. If we...

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I worry about the size of our guards on the defensive end. I think that limits us somewhat. Top 3 in PAC if we reach our potential. TBH, I don't worry about guard size. If we return Akinjo and Kriisa, those are our two best defensive guards. Mathurin and Terry have the physical attributes to be goo...

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If we end up with these major pieces: Akinjo Kerr Benn Tubelis And then include Terry, Koloko, Brown...that’s top 2 for sure. If we can also get Eason and Tyty....that’s 1st in PAC, top 10 team...Arizona Good. Even with Eason and Tyty, if UCLA returns everyone they would be very hard to beat.

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I've wondered for the longest time if UNC doesn't intentionally sandbag their players pro prospects. Roy's had a lot of 5 stars stick around, and it doesn't often seem to be for the love of college. I thought the same thing, they do a great job of getting guys who are leaving most schools after 1 y...

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Respectfully, I'm not sure the bolded is the case nowadays. Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga are likely both top 5 picks and top 10 locks, and both spent this year in the G league. And Nix and Todd, the other 5 star recruits who took that same path are probably not going to be drafted. Definitely n...

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You're right. We really don't need him. Only way we really do is if Akinjo leaves. And even then, we still wouldn't as we have enough guards. If Akinjo leaves, then I think the need for Tyty is huge as we will need someone who can create offense. I didn't even consider Akinjo leaving as an option w...

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azgreg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:47 pm
gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:46 pm
TheCat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:27 pm I will quote the great Lute Olson. It isn't whether you are good enough to get drafted, it is if you can get the second contract.
That view went away from this program when Lute Olson left.
A rookie contract is life changing.

A second contract is life changing for generations.

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TheCat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:27 pm I will quote the great Lute Olson. It isn't whether you are good enough to get drafted, it is if you can get the second contract.

That view went away from this program when Lute Olson left.

gronk4heisman

What makes Tyty special is that he's very good playing on or off ball. He also really takes pride in playing defense, something our guards struggled with this season. I think really fits with what CSM wants to do and our system. Him as a sixth man or a 2 guard beside Akinjo would be very big for us...

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Hearing TyTy Washington is leaning Arizona. Any traction there? I am not sure I am a fan of that if true. Not sure how him and Akinjo can co-exist and I would prefer Akinjo. Any particular reason? Tyty looks like a combo to me and even if he isn't, Miller's recent push has been a two PG lineup. Aki...

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NickyBCats wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:06 am Hearing TyTy Washington is leaning Arizona. Any traction there?

I am not sure I am a fan of that if true. Not sure how him and Akinjo can co-exist and I would prefer Akinjo.

gronk4heisman

Let’s not kid ourselves, we all know Robbins would try to find that hidden gem to stroke his ego. An assistant at some strong program would be my guess. His hires so far, and I do mean his hires since Heeke is just a face, have been a retread with no interest in doing anything other than cashing ch...

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It's okay to be upset with the last three years. I'm a Miller supporter and I'm upset and frustrated. But I'm also practical and see the big picture. No coach would've been able to navigate that situation. Not John Wooden. Not K. Not Roy. Not Izzo. Nobody. And Miller somehow did surprisingly well. ...

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I see a lot of limitations with Miller's style and would not second guess getting rid of him one bit, but this is definitely not the time to make that move. Next year should be a prove it year. With the roster we are expected to return, if he is that top 5 or 7 coach some say he is he has the roster...

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I think it is pretty clear Miller sees the one thing the team severely lacks after watching this entire year. An athletic long wing who can cause havoc on the perimeter. I think that is evident by the people he is going after, and he is using the transfer market because those are the best available...

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I think it is pretty clear Miller sees the one thing the team severely lacks after watching this entire year. An athletic long wing who can cause havoc on the perimeter. I think that is evident by the people he is going after, and he is using the transfer market because those are the best available ...

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I agree that PJC had limitations. But I still expect Miller to figured something out. You can’t have the best player in the country and get bounced in first round. You mean like Anthony Edwards, whose Georgia team didnt make the tournament? Or like Ben Simmons and his LSU team? Or Markelle Fultz an...

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I would prefer it be Danny Peters if anyone, but that is based solely on me having the least historical knowledge on him.

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Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:19 am
EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:18 am We are putting the band back together...
Archie's free, so is Book...it's time.

James Whitford has to be sick of living in Muncie also.

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2010-2011 to 2013-2014 were the healthiest years for the Arizona Basketball Program in the Sean Miller era - his brother Archie is a GIGANTIC reason why it was healthy during that time, and unhealthy after that time. I dont get it, he left after 2011. He was here two years. I think he is a great as...

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Maybe Daniel Batcho knows fellow Frenchman Josh Mballa from Buffalo and can say hey, that type of guy would complete our team next year.

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Transfers are hard to evaluate based on their stat line. Especially those from smaller conferences. You really need to pass the eye test to see how their game will translate against tougher competition. Dylan Smith looked like a decent transfer on paper. Against weak opponents he flourished, just l...

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Wolken was just on 1450. I didn’t catch whole interview but one thing that stood out to me was he straight up said that Robins was running the show and Heeke has no say so in this. Again....how would he know? Unless the person that knows Sean's thoughts is an assistant coach where I can see Sean gi...

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Wolken was just on 1450. I didn’t catch whole interview but one thing that stood out to me was he straight up said that Robins was running the show and Heeke has no say so in this. Sounds like the football hire, why do we pay this Heeke guy again? He must feel like such a tool knowing that he is ba...

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Extending him at least two years = current roster has a shot to get back to the tourney next year, Miller is given time to build new momentum Did I miss something where the Cats may or will be eligible next season? I haven't followed this closely but I thought the Cats were looking at a 2+ year pos...

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Obviously the BOR isn't against all extensions so what the fuck are they even talking about? That's the biggest crock of shit ever. And how, exactly, do you know that??? Are you a member of the ABOR??? *snort* is that cocaine you are snorting?? :lol: We still don't know what the truth is. Wolkens s...

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This is some piss poor planning all around thrown under the guise of budget concerns so they can blame something on their indecisiveness. They should have contingency planned the shit out of all this the second the allegations came out. Or at least December. There is literally no new info since the...

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Pasternak recruited him to AZ, I would love to see him finish his career at UCSB where he could dominate on one of the nicest campuses in his backyard. Pepperdine also fits the same mold with Romar there.

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Looks like Ira Lee is going to transfer. I hope he finds some place where he can kill it in his fifth year.

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Agreed. Don't forget Batcho will play next year too. He's another true center. J Brown is really like a 4 or small ball 5. You could roll out Tubelis and Brown at the 4 and Koloko and Batcho at the 5. But it's be nice to grab one more post player for sure Does a lineup that immobile work in todays ...

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I would argue that guys leave early and transfer here due to the culture Sean has built. And the only metric I was using for the improvement was my eyes, which are old and blurry, so take them for what their worth (but looking at stats, the one you mentioned with PJC only rose from 39% to 42%). Mayb...

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I am referring to players getting better year over year, I would argue most those you listed were not so much a development thing as much as a underrated thing. Lauri got here and day 1 it was clear he was way better then his ranking, I could see an argument that Ben showed development for half the ...

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Keep seeing that we're reaching out to transfers on the market. I know at the moment someone's gotta go, we get one of these transfers two gotta go. I saw you all were say Baker might be gone who might be the other to leave to make room? According to who we are show interestin ... ... a 6'6" to 6'7...

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I really like our returning core next year (assuming everyone comes back) which is the only reason I want Miller to stay, which admittedly is very short sighted. I think that Sean has serious limitations when it comes to player development and making the most of the roster he has. I am honestly fine...

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Choo, I can not follow what you want. Do you want him fired or extended? I thought two weeks ago you were the conductor of the fire him train now I am not sure where you sit?

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Isn't Bill Self going into the last year of his contract? Kansas has done a lot better than Arizona since this whole FBI thing, are their fans going this crazy over an extension?

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Lets say there was a certain NBA coach who was tired of the NBA and wanted to coach closer to a parent who for arguments sake is a surgeon here in Tucson. If that was a reality I would be the first one packing Miller's bags, otherwise based on where we are today extend Miller with a University frien...

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The key to our 21-22 defense is finding someone who can play perimeter defense. Whether it be Ben, Dalen, Kerr, Jemarl or one of the freshman. If we do not find that we will not be going far and whoever steps up in that category will get all the minutes he wants. I would include Terrell in that list...

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I know it is still super early, but we currently have the number 28 recruiting class in the country.

gronk4heisman

Good pickup and a good start to this class. We already have two guys in the top 1000 after being shut out of those top 1000 last year. Still need a lot more quality pickups to bridge the talent gap.

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84Cat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:44 pm Anyone know what this is about? Seems related to Sean although I could be wrong

I think this had to do with a football recruit.

gronk4heisman

This conference has become a joke in both major sports and needs a major turnaround ASAP to still be considered a power conference. It also would help our scheduling if we didn't sit on our hands while all the other major conferences set up intra conference battles (SEC/BIG 12 & Big10/ACC)

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Makes sense, I am working under the belief that if the basketball program needs money they will be able to find willing donors (which very likely could be misguided).

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And Pastner was and is an awful coach, those records Penny has put up are not very good in a not very deep conference. I love JET, but I would take a lot of guys before him at this point.

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It’s time guys. This is a pointless endeavor to continue this marriage. Choo, if you we ultimately do part ways with Miller is there any clue what caliber of coach we’d be able to pull? I feel if you make the move on Miller or mutually agree to part ways you better have a good idea that you can mak...

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I would argue the scraps form the football program in an SEC program have more long term upside then the first servings from a top program in the failing PAC 12 (thanks Larry!). Cuonzo Marin (!!!) gets paid more by his school than Sean Miller, and while pay is not everything it sure means a lot. The...

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I am not really sure what your point you are trying to make is, but I do not believe we have lost to Oregon St at home since Millers first year.

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If our entire backcourt comes back, I could see some disharmony with the lack of minutes to go around. We have Akinjo (already almost always on the floor), Kerr, Brown, Mathurin, and Terry currently. Add back in Baker with the three freshman. Something has to give.

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