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Mods can move, but I figured I'd say goodbye to the people who only post here.

I've had positive interactions with a lot of you guys, so no disrespect. I'm sure I'll forget a few people I should have named, but shout out to TucsonClip and YoDefoe for great basketball takes and to Choo and 97 for ...

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I know it's early, and this is probably the wrong thread, but I really, really wanna see some Pac 12 preview chatter after the dust settles from these two huge commitments.

I think most Pac rosters are pretty solidified at this point. Lots of new players in the league this season ...

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In my pro/con dynamic, it's also why I could easily see UCLA going further than us in the postseason.

Cronin's been past the S16 one time in his 25 years of head coaching. I wouldn't expect much postseason success from ucla while he's there.

I'm much higher on Cronin than you are. His ...

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I know it's early, and this is probably the wrong thread, but I really, really wanna see some Pac 12 preview chatter after the dust settles from these two huge commitments.

I think most Pac rosters are pretty solidified at this point. Lots of new players in the league this season, transfers ...

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I know it's early, and this is probably the wrong thread, but I really, really wanna see some Pac 12 preview chatter after the dust settles from these two huge commitments.

I think most Pac rosters are pretty solidified at this point. Lots of new players in the league this season ...

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Yes but we are only 1 injury / suspension away from having a bunch of playing time to offer.

And unless I'm mistaken we are still the University of Arizona... so there are certain things we can count on....

That's why Borocavinin and Anderson exist. Pipe dream for me anyone beyond a ...

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I know it's early, and this is probably the wrong thread, but I really, really wanna see some Pac 12 preview chatter after the dust settles from these two huge commitments.

I think most Pac rosters are pretty solidified at this point. Lots of new players in the league this season, transfers and ...

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KERR / RAMEY / PELLE / ZU / BALLO
VEESAAR / HENDERSON / BAL / BORO / ANDERSON

WE'RE GOOD GOOD

I worry we have the NBA talent ceiling limit, but we weren't changing that this late in the game.

So, Ramey and Henderson give us an experienced, solid 8 man core rotation. Having a 3rd year ...

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Do we think that's it or maybe 1 more?

I always want 1 more....

1 more means that 1 more will be pissed about lack of PT. In the know when to hold em, fold em, walk away and when to run continuum, I'd put this at fast walk to slow run away from the table.

Yes but we are only 1 injury ...

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Alieberman wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:48 pm Do we think that's it or maybe 1 more?

I always want 1 more....

1 more means that 1 more will be pissed about lack of PT. In the know when to hold em, fold em, walk away and when to run continuum, I'd put this at fast walk to slow run away from the table.

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KERR / RAMEY / PELLE / ZU / BALLO
VEESAAR / HENDERSON / BAL / BORO / ANDERSON

WE'RE GOOD GOOD

I worry we have the NBA talent ceiling limit, but we weren't changing that this late in the game.

So, Ramey and Henderson give us an experienced, solid 8 man core rotation. Having a 3rd year starter ...

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https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/status/1535343724946829314

Best possible outcome given the options at this point.

5 man perimeter rotation, starting Kerr, Ramey and Pelle, bringing Bal and Henderson off the bench.

3 man big rotation, starting (sooner or later) Veesaar and Tubelis with Ballo ...

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Also with Henderson only having played 3 seasons, one of which was the Covid year with no tourney…doesn’t he have the option to play a 5th year?

I think I posted this the other day. I believe all college basketball players cirrently have unlimited eligibility until they declare for the draft ...

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The only odd part about Henderson, he was a very good 3 point shooter as a freshman, not good as a soph and good again as a junior. He was average to above average free throw shooter as a freshman and sophomore and then not good as a junior.

I mean this as an aside. Pelle in 21-22 is a role he ...

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The only odd part about Henderson, he was a very good 3 point shooter as a freshman, not good as a soph and good again as a junior. He was average to above average free throw shooter as a freshman and sophomore and then not good as a junior.

I mean this as an aside. Pelle in 21-22 is a role he ...

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Dalen Terry has much more upside than Henderson Jr. But a 5th year Henderson likely can match much of DT's productivity last year. Henderson is more mature, more experienced, and has played a lot more college basketball games. With that said, I think Larrson has more upside than Henderson, and ...

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azgreg wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:45 pm Will Henderson be a capable replacement for Terry?

I'd put much more stock in Kerr, Ramey and Larsson. Henderson is a guy I'd think of like Mark Tollefsen in terms of role.

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YoDeFoe wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:40 pm (I'm still holding onto my "Pelle Larsson can make the NBA" ticket - I believe)

He needs to get that 3 and D on point. Then watch Bogdanovic film until he sees his future.

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I'm going to be interested to see how our season forecast is impacted by Henderson's and (hopefully) Ramey's commitments. My initial reaction is that it answers lingering questions about our depth and makes us a preseason top 25 team. Think our ceiling next year will be largely determined by ...

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I'm going to be interested to see how our season forecast is impacted by Henderson's and (hopefully) Ramey's commitments. My initial reaction is that it answers lingering questions about our depth and makes us a preseason top 25 team. Think our ceiling next year will be largely determined by the ...

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84Cat wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:09 pm I hope Henderson doesn't impact Ramey's decision. I would think they play different positions

It shouldn't. Henderson's a pure wing and Ramey's a combo guard. Ramey also would start over Henderson 10/10 times, and we have an open starting spot.

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Arizona fans... waiting for recruiting news... rehashing past losses and firings

We need a commitment ASAP lol

Only needed to wait an hour!
https://247sports.com/college/arizona/Article/cedric-henderson-jr-commits-arizona-188556859/

Not bad. I would peg him as a backup, especially if ...

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Are we forgetting Kerr's injury?

Are you implying that we beat Houston if Kerr is 100%?

Posters are saying we played crappy in every tourney game. Think that might have something to do with our starting PG having jacked up his ankle?

At least for me, I'm not saying we played ...

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Are we forgetting Kerr's injury?

Are you implying that we beat Houston if Kerr is 100%?

Posters are saying we played crappy in every tourney game. Think that might have something to do with our starting PG having jacked up his ankle?

At least for me, I'm not saying we played crappy ...

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Has Ramey given a timeframe for his decision, or are we going to be hitting refresh all summer?

The same people like to constantly derail threads so stuff gets lost in these mega threads but he's apparently going to choose Arizona soon

"On3 just released a report stating that Ramey is ...

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Ok you lost me once you brought up Miller as if Tommy's current situation and the reason we fired Miller have anything remotely in common. We didn't fire Sean Miller because he wasn't meeting our expectations in the NCAA tourney. Hell he wasn't even getting there more often than not in the end ...

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I don't know how you can acknowledge the uselessness of two key starters throughout the tournament, and then still gripe with the fact that we made it to the second weekend and lost to a solid, experienced team with a great head coach. We didn't look great in the tournament in any individual ...

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Ok you lost me once you brought up Miller as if Tommy's current situation and the reason we fired Miller have anything remotely in common. We didn't fire Sean Miller because he wasn't meeting our expectations in the NCAA tourney. Hell he wasn't even getting there more often than not in the end ...

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I don't know how you can acknowledge the uselessness of two key starters throughout the tournament, and then still gripe with the fact that we made it to the second weekend and lost to a solid, experienced team with a great head coach. We didn't look great in the tournament in any individual game ...

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Ok you lost me once you brought up Miller as if Tommy's current situation and the reason we fired Miller have anything remotely in common. We didn't fire Sean Miller because he wasn't meeting our expectations in the NCAA tourney. Hell he wasn't even getting there more often than not in the end ...

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Choo, for the record I did not originate this post. I just merely cosigned with other posters, I'm not sure where your energy is coming from. You might want to direct it at them. I do believe that it would have been better to wait to extend him and then give him a hefty raise, You can have a ...

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We need someone who can consistently make 3s.
Rinse, repeat 150 times.

Ramey and Grandison are each exceptional spot-up shooters - need one or both (hopefully Ramey and then anything extra would be gravy)

I wouldn't say totally gravy, as I'm still not sold on Borcavinin's readiness. If ...

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"On3 just released a report stating that Ramey is now expected to commit to play for the Arizona Wildcats in the coming days.

Although this doesn’t mean that the Mountaineers are completely out of the running for him, On3 stated that they are confident in the intel that they have received ...

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Lastly, I gonna give a little criticism to Lloyd. While he did a great job his first year, I wouldn't say that you need to play a team like Houston in the preseason to prepare for the tourney. I always go back to the UNLV/Duke games. They get blown out by UNLV and humiliated and the next year ...

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Postmaster wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:00 am Atlantis wasn’t on TV so it didn’t happen.
Just like the baseball game the other day

So Atlantis was lost? Fitting.

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Still disappointed that CTL wasn’t able to prepare for Houston after the TCU game.

His first time coaching in the NCAA tournament. It's hard to be too upset. We absolutely exceeded expectations this past season. Lloyd was so good that he's already earned a pay raise and contract extension ...

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Sampson out coached him, that’s for sure. But Lloyd did the best he could putting together a freestyled “cook what’s in the cupboard” version of his offense in his first year. Don’t think we could expect the boys to have the punch to the counter punch down yet.

A confluence of headwinds ...

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We need someone who can consistently make 3s.
Rinse, repeat 150 times.

Ramey and Grandison are each exceptional spot-up shooters - need one or both (hopefully Ramey and then anything extra would be gravy)

I wouldn't say totally gravy, as I'm still not sold on Borcavinin's readiness. If he ...

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Sampson out coached him, that’s for sure. But Lloyd did the best he could putting together a freestyled “cook what’s in the cupboard” version of his offense in his first year. Don’t think we could expect the boys to have the punch to the counter punch down yet.

A confluence of headwinds though ...

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I expected the team to get to s16 before CSM left. So i had the same expectation for his replacement.
I expected playing in championship game in P12 tournament and a top 3 finish in regular.
CTL beat two of those and came out even on the third.

The more I think about the NCAA tournament the more ...

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No chance. He's a walking video game

https://twitter.com/swishcultures_/status/1529954387958738944

I mean, I doubt he's there to doing that in an NBA game, but when you know how far he's come, you can figure he might be there soon.

It's tough to overstate exactly how much he's developed ...

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Ummm... last year?

Huh?? We returned Mathurin, Kriisa, Koloko, Tubelis, Terry and eventually added Larsson, Kier and Ballo. That strikes me as a much better situation than we're currently in.

There was a long time after we hired Tommy Boy that many thought all or most of those guys ...

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Can't remember the last time our roster was so riddled with question marks this late in the offseason!

Ummm... last year?

Huh?? We returned Mathurin, Kriisa, Koloko, Tubelis, Terry and eventually added Larsson, Kier and Ballo. That strikes me as a much better situation than we're ...

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Thanks, Spiff, and it's sounding from some of the other posts here that Ramey would actually start alongside KK, PL, AT and OB? Ramey's listed at 6'3, so that's a pretty small ass lineup. But maybe it has some advantages. Or maybe it means Bal and Veesaar get more PT earlier in the year.

6'3 ...

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Can WVA offer him a starting spot?

Their top 4 guards were all seniors. Of course, eligibility and the portal could influence the current situation.

They recruited Toussaint from Iowa to play the 1 and Stevenson from South Carolina to play the 2. Ramey could possibly beat either of them ...

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Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:05 pm Can WVA offer him a starting spot?

Their top 4 guards were all seniors. Of course, eligibility and the portal could influence the current situation.

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Mom responds on FB:

Valentina Tubelienė
everything will be fine with him, there is nothing tragic

Nothing tragic? This lady does not know hardcore sports fans.

It's borderline King Lear when a coach divides his playing time wrong. Sub a player on a hot streak and:

"How sharper than a ...

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dmjcat wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:20 pm wrist

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... llege-2023

Better than lower body. I always worry exponentially more about foot, ankle, knee, particularly with bigs.

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Also, things have changed a lot in the last 5-7 years. Two way contracts and the NBA's commitment to the G League means you don't need to be a 1st rounder any more.

You're right, Spiff. The larger context for this is that the G League and NIL have had a profound impact on the sport, and ...

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