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by AzCatFan2
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:42 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

I think Utah is ahead of us on the B1G list. And they won't say no, even if it's just a half share. Would be shocked if Oregon turned down the B1G for half share for that matter. Money is about the same short term as the BIG12, but the long term prospects are much better. Rumors are USC is the one t...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:07 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

espn has great value in the ACC. Why anyone thinks espn is gonna let ACC schools go to the B1G and be competitors or go to the SEC and have to pay way more to those schools is beyond crazy ESPN may have no choice if 8 ACC teams decide to disband the conference. It also might not be a huge issue for...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:54 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

The TV Networks would love to have a NFL style arrangement with the B1G acting as the AFC, and the SEC acting as the NFC. Would have plenty of eyeballs and lowest costs, resulting in being most profitable. Question is, would it work if the SEC has zero teams in the Mountain and Pacific time zones, m...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:06 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

The BIG12 will always be a distant third at best to the B1G and SEC. And who chants, "We’re a distant third!" Nobody. Still, if the PAC is collapsing, and the B1G isn't calling, the BIG12 becomes our only real option. Short term, it's the best of a bad situation. Long term, it could be awful if the ...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:37 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

Stop AzCat...please for the love of God...stop. I know you somehow rationalize those thoughts in your brain and to you it makes sense. The problem is you keep stating the same thing over and fucking over again and only your bunkmate at the sanitarium is drinking the kool-aide. It's not convincing a...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:23 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

I would agree Arizona to the B1G ship has sailed. Even with ASu getting into the AAU, there are better options for the B1G. Arizona has a better academic profile than Oregon, but Oregon has Uncle Phil. We would still be a consideration for the SEC, if they ever choose to expand west. This happens, ...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:03 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

I would agree Arizona to the B1G ship has sailed. Even with ASu getting into the AAU, there are better options for the B1G. Arizona has a better academic profile than Oregon, but Oregon has Uncle Phil. We would still be a consideration for the SEC, if they ever choose to expand west. This happens, E...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:37 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

The BIG12 has 4 pro-rata spots for Power 5 teams written into their contract. Meaning the first 4 P5 teams that jump to the BIG12 are guaranteed a full $31 million. Colorado already took one spot. UCONN and SDSU are not P5 teams, and would likely not get a full BIG12 share to start; it would likely ...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:16 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

The B1G has been hesitant to shoot the kill shot to the PAC, but perhaps the B1G see the PAC now as seriously wounded, and are ready to kill it as an act of compassion? Any combination of these schools going B1G, and we have no choice but to go to the BIG12. Would like to see the BIG12 also pick up ...
by AzCatFan2
Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:12 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

Here's an article on the pressures ESPN is facing, and the obstacles they are facing in the future (https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/disneys-espn-streaming-transition-to-be-massive-extra-disruptive-event-163725086.html). Basically, ESPN gets about $9 to $10 per subscriber, but only about 1/3 peopl...
by AzCatFan2
Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:50 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

This article from CBS Sports describes how the BIG12 may be winning versus the PAC, longb term, the BIG12 is just losing more slowly. Over the next 5 years, BIG12 teams will be making significantly less than SEC and B1G schools. If that gap widens in the future, is not sustainable. https://www.cbssp...
by AzCatFan2
Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:11 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

Again, only one school, Notre Dame, has a media value north of what the B1G and SEC are getting. So, if the B1G and SEC do expand to 24 each, guess what happens? Schools with media values less than $60 million get invites! Why can't UA be one of them? Wouldn't be assured, but if the future is 48 te...
by AzCatFan2
Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:26 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

If you think the changing television landscape is irrelevant, I have no words. The SEC and B1G are top dogs because ESPN and FOX are paying them. But what would happen if the well starts to run dry? Which it is, by the way. ESPN just laid off a lot of people, and more pain is likely coming as more ...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:10 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

If you think the changing television landscape is irrelevant, I have no words. The SEC and B1G are top dogs because ESPN and FOX are paying them. But what would happen if the well starts to run dry? Which it is, by the way. ESPN just laid off a lot of people, and more pain is likely coming as more ...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:03 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

If you think the changing television landscape is irrelevant, I have no words. The SEC and B1G are top dogs because ESPN and FOX are paying them. But what would happen if the well starts to run dry? Which it is, by the way. ESPN just laid off a lot of people, and more pain is likely coming as more p...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:50 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

Why would the SEC or B1G take a member that brings in less money? Because the person holding the wallet, in this case ESPN or FOX, is consolidating. There may be a future with only a big 2 and crumbs for everyone else. In this future, FOX and ESPN only back their one big dog, and no longer carry any...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:34 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

Your argument/word salad is so illogical its hard to know where to start. 1) What the future of ESPN/Disney looks like is irrelevant. The UA will still have a much lower media value than what the existing schools in the B1G/SEC have. NOBODY is going to take a pay cut to admit the UA to one of those...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:59 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

My God, you are as delusional as PHXCATS. Do you understand that the the UA's media value is a fraction of what the SEC/B1G are paying out??? Are you naive enough to believe that the other members of the B1G or SEC are all going to take a pay cut to let the UA in??? Show me your crystal ball that a...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:50 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

Nobody knows the future. But a conference with a $100 million payout is likely unlikely in the near future. The B1G has the largest at $60 million now. And the future of TV channels like ESPN and FS1 is cloudy at best. It is possible that 16-team conferences are untenable, especially with the trave...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:16 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

Nobody knows the future. But a conference with a $100 million payout is likely unlikely in the near future. The B1G has the largest at $60 million now. And the future of TV channels like ESPN and FS1 is cloudy at best. It is possible that 16-team conferences are untenable, especially with the trave...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:00 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

Nobody knows the future. But a conference with a $100 million payout is likely unlikely in the near future. The B1G has the largest at $60 million now. And the future of TV channels like ESPN and FS1 is cloudy at best. It is possible that 16-team conferences are untenable, especially with the travel...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:59 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

So great, we may be getting off the Titanic just in time. But there's a good chance we've just exchanged our ticket for one on the Lusitania. Given all the coming changes in the TV Sports market, how is joining a conference that will never be better than third being the SEC and B1G a great long-term...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:06 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

I'm not worried about the buyout. We'll find the money if an invite to the B1G or SEC ever comes. Let's get off this sinking ship first. Clemson, FSU, Miami, and North Carolina can't seem to come up with $100 million to buy themselves out of the ACC. But somehow, we'll have $100 million waiting for...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:10 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

I can admit the PAC is crumbling, especially with Colorado leaving. And the PAC was always likely to crumble the moment UCLA and USC left. I was just hoping to survive one more contract until 2030 in the hopes that better option than the BIG12 came calling. I still hold out hope that something bette...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:12 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

If you scroll down to the section entitled, "What about the BIG 12" you'll see an explanation of the conference bylaws. (https://www.oklahoman.com/story/sports/2021/07/21/big-12-grant-rights-potential-ou-texas-move-sec-faq/8048313002/) Basically, it is a 99 year deal, ending in 2111, where schools n...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:35 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

I know the fear is if we don't move to the BIG12 now, we'll end up in a G5 Conference life the Mountain West. And for the next 5 years, the BIG12 has a decent TV contract. But what happens after that period is over and the SEC and B1G start picking off the best of the rest, starting with ACC teams?...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:44 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

I know the fear is if we don't move to the BIG12 now, we'll end up in a G5 Conference life the Mountain West. And for the next 5 years, the BIG12 has a decent TV contract. But what happens after that period is over and the SEC and B1G start picking off the best of the rest, starting with ACC teams? ...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:24 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

Isn't this like the fourth or fifth Colorado BOR meeting where the announcement back to the BIG12 is supposed to happen? Not saying it won't this time. But I'm also not going to hold my breath.
by AzCatFan2
Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:14 am
Forum: Arizona Football
Topic: 7 Jayden de Laura
Replies: 305
Views: 9668

Re: 7 Jayden de Laura

Here’s a thought experiment for you all Your 18 YO daugther calls from her dorm at the U of A to share the exciting news that “the quarterback” from the team has asked her out for next weekend. What are your first thoughts? How do you respond? My daughter will be an 18-year old freshman at UA in a ...
by AzCatFan2
Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:44 pm
Forum: Arizona Football
Topic: 7 Jayden de Laura
Replies: 305
Views: 9668

Re: 7 Jayden de Laura

Can you post the text messages so we can see them? OJ was also found guilty on the civil case. JDL was not. Let's just stick to facts. The victim laid out her case in the civil court case regarding the text messages. The victim also claimed that 2 the two perps agreed to admit to 2nd degree sexual ...
by AzCatFan2
Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:40 am
Forum: Arizona Football
Topic: 7 Jayden de Laura
Replies: 305
Views: 9668

Re: 7 Jayden de Laura

Agreed athletes get special treatment and like I said the optics are terrible but the authorities we have assume did their due diligence and opted not to try as an adult. I will not be his judge or juror so for me, I trust the system and move on So, your position is that in such a case, the crimina...
by AzCatFan2
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:49 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

The Conference Presidents have numbers in front of them. And if the numbers were unacceptably bad, either Kliavkoff would need to go back to the negotiating table or schools would have left already. Washington and Oregon would leave now if the B1G would have them. But for whatever reason, the B1G do...
by AzCatFan2
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:12 am
Forum: Arizona Football
Topic: 7 Jayden de Laura
Replies: 305
Views: 9668

Re: 7 Jayden de Laura

Nothing has changed about this case. The facts are what actually happened will remain hidden behind Juvenile court records. And while there is no gag law on the legal case, it wouldn't shock me to find there was one added to the civil suit settlement. Likely to protect both parties. JDL has pro foot...
by AzCatFan2
Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:26 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

https://twitter.com/theACC/status/1679582896896573440 Wonder if this means if the CW will be the linear partner for the PAC? Having ACC games followed by PAC games makes for good "shoulder content" for the CW. Also could be a test run for a future combined ACC/PAC? Just speculation, but seems logic...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:50 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

The BIG12 without Texas and OU is a conference of also-rans There are more sports than just football. PAC-12 Conference of Champions. Understanding that football is the biggest revenue sport, but look how well the ACC has done as a basketball conference. https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/16...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:50 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

The BIG12 without Texas and OU is a conference of also-rans. It will always be third fiddle at best, and the gap between the SEC, B1G, and the BIG12 will continue to grow. Conferences need cash cows/marquee programs. Who is the BIG12 cash cow? If we join the BIG12, we'll be in the exact same positi...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:12 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

The BIG12 without Texas and OU is a conference of also-rans. It will always be third fiddle at best, and the gap between the SEC, B1G, and the BIG12 will continue to grow. Conferences need cash cows/marquee programs. Who is the BIG12 cash cow? If we join the BIG12, we'll be in the exact same positio...
by AzCatFan2
Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:32 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

This article was written in 2017 about the 5 reasons ESPN is dying. The issues have not resolved. If anything, they have only gotten worse, and the death of ESPN has progressed, which is why ESPN will soon be streaming only. https://www.thestreet.com/opinion/espn-14308344 Our two college baseball re...
by AzCatFan2
Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:33 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

By the way, Apple TV is currently only $6.99/month. And like other streaming services, no contract, You can cancel and re-subscribe at any time. If $63/year for Apple TV for the 9 months that broadcast UA sporting events is too much for you, than you have other, more serious issues. If you can affo...
by AzCatFan2
Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:33 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

By the way, Apple TV is currently only $6.99/month. And like other streaming services, no contract, You can cancel and re-subscribe at any time. If $63/year for Apple TV for the 9 months that broadcast UA sporting events is too much for you, than you have other, more serious issues. If you can affo...
by AzCatFan2
Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:19 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

By the way, Apple TV is currently only $6.99/month. And like other streaming services, no contract, You can cancel and re-subscribe at any time. If $63/year for Apple TV for the 9 months that broadcast UA sporting events is too much for you, than you have other, more serious issues. If you can affor...
by AzCatFan2
Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:16 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

Last year, ESPN+ broadcast over 500 college football games (https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-releases/2022/08/espn-to-stream-more-than-500-college-football-games-this-fall-2/#:~:text=ESPN%2B%20will%20stream%20more%20college,%2C%20Southland%2C%20MEAC%20and%20SWAC.) This year, there will be more. On...
by AzCatFan2
Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:59 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

The reality is, college sports has two top conferences. The B1G and SEC. If you are not a part of one of these conferences, you want to be. The BIG12? Once Texas and OK leave, it's a conference of 8 also-rans and 4 G5 call ups. If any one of these teams ever get an invite from the B1G or SEC, they a...
by AzCatFan2
Mon Jul 10, 2023 8:24 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

Not sure if that's a response to me, after I already said pride in the conference has obviously been diminished by the various missteps, or if it's intended for previous posts. But being disappointed isn't the same as caring about any attempts at humor by rival fans on the internet. I used to trave...
by AzCatFan2
Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:21 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

How embarrassing this situation ends up to be depends on the contract. If it's a decent deal, we'll hear it was worth the wait. And the Conference had to take its time to make sure it got things right. If the contract is crap, the shitshow will grow proportionately, and the PAC won't likely survive.
by AzCatFan2
Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:59 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Soccer thread (Champions League • PL • La Liga • Euros etc)
Replies: 593
Views: 204955

Re: Soccer thread (Champions League • PL • La Liga • Euros etc)

Good first half against Canada. And Balogun with the kind of finish we've been missing from a target man up front. 2-0 US at half. 45 minutes to go.
by AzCatFan2
Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:42 am
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

San Diego State has asked the Mountain West for an extension of 1 month to leave without a larger penalty. The inside information is they are waiting for the PAC to sign a TV deal, and will leave if the deal is signed by June 30. If not, SDSU wants another month. https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...
by AzCatFan2
Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:26 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Soccer thread (Champions League • PL • La Liga • Euros etc)
Replies: 593
Views: 204955

Re: Soccer thread (Champions League • PL • La Liga • Euros etc)

Nice score line in yesterday's match against Mexico. Tres a cero is better than dos a cero, and great that the US has a 6-game unbeaten streak against Mexico. But what an ugly second half. 12 card in total, but 11 in the 2nd half, with 4 reds. And the red against McKinnie was BS. The ref had lost co...
by AzCatFan2
Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:14 am
Forum: NBA
Topic: 2022-2023 NBA Season
Replies: 101
Views: 6989

Re: 2022-2023 NBA Season

So will Nnaji. But AG was the difference maker in the series. Worked his ass off and did a lot of the dirty things to help Denver win. Both teams played tight last night, but with full effort. Denver was just the better and deeper team all year.
by AzCatFan2
Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:23 pm
Forum: Football Arch Rivals
Topic: Conference Realignment
Replies: 4336
Views: 3573915

Re: Conference Realignment

The 2023/24 numbers are bad, especially compared to other conferences. But moving to the BIG12 won't change those numbers for us. We are contractually obligated to be in the PAC this upcoming academic year regardless. The big question is the TV contract numbers. Can the PAC meet or beat the BIG12's ...