Bear Down Wildcats

AzCatFan2

When media companies need to cut costs they fire people. They don’t get rid of live entertainment which is the only medium where people still watch commercials (like HOURS of commercials). The idea that ESPN would “cut” the Big12 from their roster is ludicrous. ESPECIALLY if they are getting those ...

AzCatFan2

When media companies need to cut costs they fire people. They don’t get rid of live entertainment which is the only medium where people still watch commercials (like HOURS of commercials). The idea that ESPN would “cut” the Big12 from their roster is ludicrous. ESPECIALLY if they are getting those ...

AzCatFan2

Next round of college conference negotiations will start around 2028/29. ESPN and ACC will still be under contract until 2035/36. If ESPN is struggling to and needs to cut costs, which college conference gets cut next round? SEC? No. ACC? Again no, because they can't break the contract. That leaves ...

AzCatFan2

You’d rather wait to see if streaming for five years on Apple kills us than align ourselves with the preeminent sports entertainment property which will slowly roll out into a majority streaming platform but not before cementing the Arizona sports brand in the minds of fans literally everywhere. Ma...

AzCatFan2

You’d rather wait to see if streaming for five years on Apple kills us than align ourselves with the preeminent sports entertainment property which will slowly roll out into a majority streaming platform but not before cementing the Arizona sports brand in the minds of fans literally everywhere. Ma...

AzCatFan2

Why someone would be so married to the Pac12 that they’d pretend to be able to predict the future is beyond me. All I do know is that if the PAC adds SMU and SDSU and then signs a deal with Apple, for the vast majority of sports entertainment fans, the league will basically cease to exist. The next...

AzCatFan2

Why someone would be so married to the Pac12 that they’d pretend to be able to predict the future is beyond me. All I do know is that if the PAC adds SMU and SDSU and then signs a deal with Apple, for the vast majority of sports entertainment fans, the league will basically cease to exist. The next...

AzCatFan2

Haven't listened to the latest Marchand and Ourand podcast yet, but from what I understand, the PAC is down to less money to be on the 4th window on ESPN with Amazon as the streaming partner for a GOW, with everything else on the PAC-12 network. Or, take about 10 million more to be exclusive with A...

AzCatFan2

Haven't listened to the latest Marchand and Ourand podcast yet, but from what I understand, the PAC is down to less money to be on the 4th window on ESPN with Amazon as the streaming partner for a GOW, with everything else on the PAC-12 network. Or, take about 10 million more to be exclusive with A...

AzCatFan2

I don't know numbers, other than Apple's offer is reportedly $10 million more. That's the only rumor I heard. Also, the PAC-12 Network assets may not be included in the broadcast rights agreement, but included in a separate agreement that also brings each school revenue? Good question about DTV and ...

AzCatFan2

Haven't listened to the latest Marchand and Ourand podcast yet, but from what I understand, the PAC is down to less money to be on the 4th window on ESPN with Amazon as the streaming partner for a GOW, with everything else on the PAC-12 network. Or, take about 10 million more to be exclusive with Ap...

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Stanford and CAL would rather go independent before they aligned themselves with Mountain West Schools. And while athletically, Stanford isn't worth as much as UW and Oregon, and CAL, a far distance back, academically, the Bay Areas have a lot of clout. If the B1G could get the two Bays and Oregon a...

AzCatFan2

ASu plays decent D, and a lot of iso, 1v1 on O. If they get hot from the outside, they can be difficult to beat. We need to be patient on Offense and work for the good shot. And don't lose your man on D. We should beat them in McKale. USC is similar to ASu, only even more athletic, and a player who ...

AzCatFan2

It's wants and desires based on actions, statements, and in some cases, inside information. It's no secret UW and Oregon want out of the PAC. Heck, they petitioned to join the B1G. It was denied. You keep talking like you’ve got something besides your gut emotions. UW and Oregon petitioned to join ...

AzCatFan2

It's wants and desires based on actions, statements, and in some cases, inside information. It's no secret UW and Oregon want out of the PAC. Heck, they petitioned to join the B1G. It was denied. You keep talking like you’ve got something besides your gut emotions. UW and Oregon petitioned to join ...

AzCatFan2

It's wants and desires based on actions, statements, and in some cases, inside information. It's no secret UW and Oregon want out of the PAC. Heck, they petitioned to join the B1G. It was denied. Have they ever made a single move that would show one iota of interest in the BIG12? No. None. That's be...

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From Canzano, the BIG12 is talking with Boise St and Fresno St., plus Gonzaga for basketball only. But at best, only believe 50% of the rumors that are floating out there when it comes to conference talks (https://www.ksl.com/article/50582096/canzano-big-12-talks-with-fresno-state-while-pac-12-plots...

AzCatFan2

Do Oregon and Washington still want a bigger share of the deal? If so Arizona should jump ship just to fuck them over and force them to scramble and claw just to get any money. That's just me applying my own pettiness of course. I suspect Oregon and Washington's desire to get a larger share was the...

AzCatFan2

This Dennis Dodd (CBS) article breaks things down well. https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-offenses-continue-declining-in-key-categories-resulting-in-lowest-scoring-season-since-2011/ Basically, the PAC has supply in a market place where demand is currently satisfied. A...

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Oregon's money comes from Phil Knight. Knight is a Stanford alum that in addition to donating millions to Oregon, also donates millions to Stanford. Put 2 and 2 together. Will Oregon do something that pisses off its biggest benefactor by leaving for a conference while leaving Stanford in the dust? S...

AzCatFan2

I prefer not to divulge my source in public, but if anyone is curious, PM me, and I'll tell you who he is. And give you the link to his bio page on the UW Tyee Club page. The Tyee club is the UW Athletic equivalent to the Wildcat Club.

AzCatFan2

Oh, and as for Oregon, they do have Phil Knight money. But remember this about Mr. Nike, he's a Stanford grad, and also gives millions to his alma mater. He's not going to let Oregon go to a conference without Stanford. And no way Stanford is going BIG12 for the same reason UW isn't going. Knight ha...

AzCatFan2

"Oregon and UW want even less to do with the BIG12 than Colorado and Utah" At this point you are spouting delusional crap with ZERO evidence to back it up. If the P12 offer ends up $Million short of what the B12 offers they will flee there in a heartbeat. Your ridiculous opinions are NOT fact. The ...

AzCatFan2

That's mighty nice of you. About 40 thousand more of you (per year) and maybe the athletic department will be able to make up for the lost revenue once relegated to the MWC. And dude, why should Arizona care what Ore, Wash, Utah and Colo want? So what. The minute that money flow tightens up (it wil...

AzCatFan2

If the ACC can get more money, get will. They agreed locked into $20 million a year with ESPN until 35/36. That's their incentive. And I'll donate $1000 to the UA Foundation if Oregon and Washington ever become BIG12 members. They want no part of that conference. Neither do Utah and Colorado for th...

AzCatFan2

If the ACC can get more money, get will. They agreed locked into $20 million a year with ESPN until 35/36. That's their incentive. And I'll donate $1000 to the UA Foundation if Oregon and Washington ever become BIG12 members. They want no part of that conference. Neither do Utah and Colorado for th...

AzCatFan2

If the ACC can get more money, get will. They agreed locked into $20 million a year with ESPN until 35/36. That's their incentive. And I'll donate $1000 to the UA Foundation if Oregon and Washington ever become BIG12 members. They want no part of that conference. Neither do Utah and Colorado for tha...

AzCatFan2

Same people still coping and trying to find any little ounce of a miracle to keep this conference alive. Why people have such high loyalty to this conference I don't know. Who? Perfect timing. It's not loyalty to the conference. It's exploring all options before closing all doors. And if a ACC/PAC ...

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It's not loyalty to the conference. It's exploring all options before closing all doors. And if a ACC/PAC deal is a better deal than anything the BIG12 has to offer, why not take it? And the conference isn't dead yet. The B1G won't expand at current rates, but might pick up PAC leftovers if they exi...

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A ACC/PAC merge, or co-branding TV agreement is a possibility. This article proposes such a deal (https://writeforcalifornia.com/p/pac-12-acc-conference-realignment-sec-big-ten) Lots of moving parts, but I can see an agreement where the PAC Network and ACC Network Merge under the ESPN banner. Much o...

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Not PAC news, but related, TV rights news. Diamond Sports Group, which owns and operates Bally Sports TV Channels (former Fox Sports regional channels like FS Arizona) has missed an interest-only payment of $140 million. This triggers a 30-day period where they can try and restructure, either with o...

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Just speculation, but when Amazon lost Sunday Ticket, it no longer wanted the tonnage of college sports. Sunday ticket requires broadcasting of a number of games at the same time. Something that fits in with the college conference sports schedule. But without a reason to have multiple channels, Ama...

AzCatFan2

Just speculation, but when Amazon lost Sunday Ticket, it no longer wanted the tonnage of college sports. Sunday ticket requires broadcasting of a number of games at the same time. Something that fits in with the college conference sports schedule. But without a reason to have multiple channels, Ama...

AzCatFan2

Just speculation, but when Amazon lost Sunday Ticket, it no longer wanted the tonnage of college sports. Sunday ticket requires broadcasting of a number of games at the same time. Something that fits in with the college conference sports schedule. But without a reason to have multiple channels, Amaz...

AzCatFan2

Certainly seems like the 11th hour for the PAC. One of two things are going to happen, in my opinion. Kliavkoff pulls a rabbit out of his hat and gets a decent deal. Or, the clock strikes midnight, the 4-corners go BIG12, which leaves the Bay Area and UW and OU to go B1G, but likely at a reduced rat...

AzCatFan2

Amazon already has a an app for viewing. View Prime, or something. For TNF, Amazon already negotiated a deal with DirecTv Business so the games can be shown on sports bars and restaurants. I would imagine Amazon would negotiate with DTV Business to get PAC games on there too.

AzCatFan2

Scott made a huge mistake making Dish the official partner of the PAC-12 Network, and never getting on DirecTv. Not that it mattered much about in-home, but 99% of sports bars have DTV because of the NFL Sunday Ticket. Not being in sports bars hurt with the casual sports viewer. Wow thanks for maki...

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By the way, ESPN+ has a separate fee for Businesses (https://help.espnplus.com/espnplus_hc?id=espnplus_article_content&sys_kb_id=befefe9d870c215c0ef8dca83cbb3509) ESPN does now allow for personal ESPN+ access to be shown in a business like a sports bar. Today, mostly bars with large hockey fan traff...

AzCatFan2

Scott made a huge mistake making Dish the official partner of the PAC-12 Network, and never getting on DirecTv. Not that it mattered much about in-home, but 99% of sports bars have DTV because of the NFL Sunday Ticket. Not being in sports bars hurt with the casual sports viewer. Wow thanks for maki...

AzCatFan2

Scott made a huge mistake making Dish the official partner of the PAC-12 Network, and never getting on DirecTv. Not that it mattered much about in-home, but 99% of sports bars have DTV because of the NFL Sunday Ticket. Not being in sports bars hurt with the casual sports viewer.

AzCatFan2

The B1G expands to the Bay Area and the PAC NW to keep the LA schools happy with travel partners. That's not happening this round, unless the BIG12 delivers the death blow by taking the 4-corner PAC schools. The B1G can then pick up the pieces by offering partial payments for the 4 Bay and bigger PA...

AzCatFan2

ACC media rights deal won't expire until 2036, and the contract seems iron clad. If it weren't, Clemson and FSU would have sought SEC admittance by this point. This buys us some time, and no need to worry about ACC teams changing conferences. I agree that the LA schools will want travel partners, bu...

AzCatFan2

I don’t know anyone in my circle who has streamed a sporting event. Now of course if the cats move to that platform then I will but no way does a streaming service provide as many eyeballs as basic TV or cable does. It amazes me your fight in this battle. You are steadfast in the midst of overwhelm...

AzCatFan2

Again spouting about macro trends of Pay TV. What's the macro trend for sports fans? I'll give you a hint, it's not heading towards streaming any time soon . The macro trend says cable TV is dying for the non-sports fan, but it is beyond live and well for the sports fan as that's where they can lit...

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We have no idea if the PAC contract will pay more, less, or about the same as the BIG12. Just rumors (sorry). But we do know that the L. A. D schools will likely be paying additional $4.5 million to $5.5 million in travel costs when they move to the B1G. I'd think Oregon and UW would have similar in...

AzCatFan2

Your arguments are bereft of any logic. Basically, you argue for jumping in front of the train now instead of 5 years down the road. In case you haven't noticed nobody (and I mean NOBODY) wants the streaming option. You don't see the SEC/B!G rushing to get their games streamed for a reason. If the ...

AzCatFan2

Their TV deal is not majority streaming. The PAC's TV deal is majority streaming. Our games against lesser competition would be on ESPN+ if we were in the Big 12. Our bigger games would be on streaming if we stay in the PAC 12. You keep ignoring these facts as if they don't matter. This is why nobo...

AzCatFan2

Again spouting about macro trends of Pay TV. What's the macro trend for sports fans? I'll give you a hint, it's not heading towards streaming any time soon. The macro trend says cable TV is dying for the non-sports fan, but it is beyond live and well for the sports fan as that's where they can lite...

AzCatFan2

The logic is $$. If five years from now, every school has multiple games being streamed only per year, and say if the PAC deal is worth $3 million more a year than the BIG 12, 5 years from now, wecwill all be in the same streaming place. But if we stay in the PAC, we'd have $15 million more. The TV...

AzCatFan2

Again spouting about macro trends of Pay TV. What's the macro trend for sports fans? I'll give you a hint, it's not heading towards streaming any time soon. The macro trend says cable TV is dying for the non-sports fan, but it is beyond live and well for the sports fan as that's where they can lite...

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