Bear Down Wildcats

AzCatFan2

Former Fox Sports President was on a Utah Podcast last week. Lots of good insight, including why the 4-corner PAC schools would have value to the BIG 12. But today, it's in the best interest of Utah to stick with the PAC, because a need to move isn't imminent. Also goes over the value of G5 schools ...

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How come Scarlett Johansson isn't marrying me? Maybe because she's already married and doesn't want to commit polygamy? Some good inside information to have before you ask questions. I'd image the 10 PAC University Presidents also have some inside info that we're not privy to. But with the informat...

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If anyone with half a brain knows jumping to the BIG 12 now is the best option, how come none of the PAC schools are hopping? How come Scarlett Johansson isn't marrying me? Maybe because she's already married and doesn't want to commit polygamy? Some good inside information to have before you ask q...

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With the exception of Crow at ASu and the Colorado Chancellor, I think all other PAC Presidents have been appointed 2015 or later. They were smart enough to finally let Larry Scott go and not renew his contract. And University Presidents are often self-serving egomaniacs, they generally aren't stupi...

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If anyone with half a brain knows jumping to the BIG 12 now is the best option, how come none of the PAC schools are hopping? How come Scarlett Johansson isn't marrying me? Maybe because she's already married and doesn't want to commit polygamy? Some good inside information to have before you ask q...

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If anyone with half a brain knows jumping to the BIG 12 now is the best option, how come none of the PAC schools are hopping? Are all 10 University Presidents and ADs just stupid and only people here are smart? Or maybe, just maybe, the PAC schools understand that with the ACC GOR, it will at least ...

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11 years ago after not adding Texas & Oklahoma: “We have the luxury of time and there may be better options available to us if we wait.” 2022 after losing USC and UCLA and officially entering mid-tier status: “We have the luxury of time and there may be better options available to us if we wait.” I...

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You wait and you run the risk of getting shut out. That is the reason you go to the B12 if invited and you don’t look back. Anyone with half a brain gets that. The PAC is a wounded animal and I don’t see any scenario it survives as a Power 12. They have no leverage other than the late night slot wh...

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You wait and you run the risk of getting shut out. That is the reason you go to the B12 if invited and you don’t look back. Anyone with half a brain gets that. The PAC is a wounded animal and I don’t see any scenario it survives as a Power 12. They have no leverage other than the late night slot wh...

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You wait and you run the risk of getting shut out. That is the reason you go to the B12 if invited and you don’t look back. Anyone with half a brain gets that. The PAC is a wounded animal and I don’t see any scenario it survives as a Power 12. They have no leverage other than the late night slot wh...

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We're already in a minor league now. You do know that right? If we go to the Big 12 it's not going to prevent the B1G or SEC to add us if they ever truly wanted to, which they won't during our lifetimes barring some drastic change to the status of Arizona Football or a huge market growth in the cit...

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I literally ignored your entire post outside of this, because TLDNR. The Big 12 is stable because all their schools are located in smaller markets that the B1G and SEC are not eyeing any time soon. Their membership is secure and they will have numbers (membership-wise). Even in the theoretical univ...

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How is the BIG 12 stable? The SEC and B1G are stable. So is the ACC, because of the huge buyout on their contract that doesn't seem like it can be broken. But the BIG 12 and PAC? We are in the same boat. I literally ignored your entire post outside of this, because TLDNR. The Big 12 is stable becau...

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How is the BIG 12 stable? The SEC and B1G are stable. So is the ACC, because of the huge buyout on their contract that doesn't seem like it can be broken. But the BIG 12 and PAC? We are in the same boat. I literally ignored your entire post outside of this, because TLDNR. The Big 12 is stable becau...

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And waiting for the SEC and B1G to act doesn't cost us anything, unless you think joining the BIG 12 today has more value than potentially joining it in a few years, after we know what else is going on. That's exactly what I believe yes. I don't see a point in sticking with the Pac-10 for another 5...

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. As for ESPN bidding on the B1G contract, that's unlikely. First, FOX owns a 60% stake in the B1G Network. Second, I'm not sure ESPN has the money for both the SEC and the B1G. In addition, the SEC/ESPN contract is a 10-year deal starting in 2024, and if ESPN also signed the B1G, it would dilute t...

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In life, you don’t want to control your own destiny? Yikes if so. Yes it may be lateral but it’s stable. I actually think others have made a perfect argument as to why. They make sense to me. The wishing and hoping by waiting confuses me I'd rather make the best, most informed decision possible for...

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Conference Realignment talk bores the fuck out of me. I feel like Bill Murray in "Groundhog Day". The same arguments keep getting rehashed every day. Welcome to fan boards during the off season. I stopped reading AzCatFan2 posts awhile ago. They are long winded and basically say the same thing. I g...

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There are people out there that think the SEC wants Arizona? That’s wild. Not exactly. The SEC and ESPN which holds the SEC purse strings, doesn't want to see the B1G become the first super conference with top teams from coast to coast. And if the B1G takes the top remaining west coast teams, which...

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Nobody knows the future, but short term, with the B1G announcing no further expansion at this time, short term, what is most likely to happen is the PAC stays together and signs a short term media agreement. Whether or not the BIG 12 agreement is larger or smaller is to be determined, but the former...

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I can see Arizona, ASU, Utah and Colorado going to the big 12 and Oregon and UW/Stanford to the big 10. And UW/Stanford Cal, OSU and WSU getting left out and having to join some super sized mountain west I can also see UW/UO not getting a B1G invite and instead going to the B12..........which then ...

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LOL. Sorry, but you are just delusional about any possibility of getting into the SEC. So go ahead and pontificate. Everyone here knows you are delusional, so there is no point in even trying to reason with you. UA needs to dump the PAC, and sooner, rather than later. FOX is broadcasting a USC game...

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IMO, we gain absolutely nothing by waiting. It's like working for a company and they cut 15% of the employees, but you don't get cut. Then it becomes obvious that they will eventually (maybe soon, maybe later) cut 20% to 40% of the remaining employees. Do you wait to see if you will be one of the u...

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IMO, we gain absolutely nothing by waiting. It's like working for a company and they cut 15% of the employees, but you don't get cut. Then it becomes obvious that they will eventually (maybe soon, maybe later) cut 20% to 40% of the remaining employees. Do you wait to see if you will be one of the u...

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Why take that chance though if the ultimate destination is the Big 12. The Bay Area schools will be included because kid UCLA and that TV market. I think they are ahead of the NW schools so your dire scenario might play out. We need to be proactive now Because the odds of the nightmare scenario are...

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Former Utah AD, Chris Hill, who was AD when Utah joined the PAC, and also hired coaches like Urban Meyer and Kyle Whittingham, stated there is no reason for any PAC team to join the BIG 12, unless the desire is to destroy the PAC. https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/08/03/former-utah-ad-says-no-reason...

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Former Utah AD, Chris Hill, who was AD when Utah joined the PAC, and also hired coaches like Urban Meyer and Kyle Whittingham, stated there is no reason for any PAC team to join the BIG 12, unless the desire is to destroy the PAC. https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/08/03/former-utah-ad-says-no-reason-...

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Bro I agree with you more than anyone else here and now I think you have gone crazy If ucla and usc play 8 home games each year not vs each other's in Big Ten play at least 6 will be late slots. That is all Fox needs. Broadcast AL or NL playoffs in western division ballparks and they are set for th...

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Tell me how much revenue Oregon and Washington bring vs the existing SEC schools (to their respective conference via TV and tickets)? It is less than half. There are only two goals of the SEC and Big Ten. Dominate sports Make as much revenue for your member schools as possible. Bringing in every ot...

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Tell me how much revenue Oregon and Washington bring vs the existing SEC schools (to their respective conference via TV and tickets)? It is less than half. There are only two goals of the SEC and Big Ten. Dominate sports Make as much revenue for your member schools as possible. Bringing in every ot...

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There are zero schools that benefit the SEC west of the Mississippi anymore. It makes zero sense for them to expand that direction. The only schools the SEC will consider that aren't in the B1G are UNC, Clemson, Miami, Florida St, Notre Dame and maybe Virgina. No other school makes sense for them f...

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It only makes sense, because this is the dumbest group of University Presidents ever collected in history, so naturally all of them would do something that would only benefit Oregon, Washington, and maybe Stanford. I'm so proud to continue on with this legacy of a conference that hasn't accomplishe...

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The more I read and hear about this, I get the sense that the remaining 10 will band together and that they will sign a short term deal. It only makes sense, because this is the dumbest group of University Presidents ever collected in history, so naturally all of them would do something that would ...

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The more I read and hear about this, I get the sense that the remaining 10 will band together and that they will sign a short term deal. It only makes sense, because this is the dumbest group of University Presidents ever collected in history, so naturally all of them would do something that would ...

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The more I read and hear about this, I get the sense that the remaining 10 will band together and that they will sign a short term deal. Near the end of that contract the B1G and the SEC will pick off schools to compete against one another along with ESPIN and FOX who are the ones behind all this m...

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While I attended Arizona and still live in the state, I grew up in Florida and have Gator family members. My first ever college game was in Gainesville, during the Emmitt Smith era. Still follow the Gators and post on Gator Country. There's a thread on that board saying the SEC should add Oregon, Wa...

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Here's an article on Phil Knight, Oregon's Godfather, exploring either the BIG 10 or the SEC for Oregon. https://www.on3.com/college/oregon-ducks/news/phil-knight-backs-oregon-ducks-exploring-big-ten-sec-move-super-conference-nike-pac-12-big-12/ And here's a Duck op-ed saying the BIG12/PAC merger no...

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Is the conference really unified? It appears Oregon and Washington would leave tomorrow with a B1G offer and Stanford will go if ND goes. Why stay around for that. Those schools are not going to sign anything that locks them in n ACC style. Does anyone here even remotely believe that there is even ...

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Is the conference really unified? It appears Oregon and Washington would leave tomorrow with a B1G offer and Stanford will go if ND goes. Why stay around for that. Those schools are not going to sign anything that locks them in n ACC style. Does anyone here even remotely believe that there is even ...

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We're in a holding pattern, with everyone waiting on what Notre Dame would do. Let's be honest. If the BIG 10 came calling for any PAC school right now, the answer would be yes before the BIG 10 Commissioner even finished the question! Arizona included. The reason to stay together now is it's likely...

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It should come as no surprise that the BIG 10 wants to expand to include more west coast teams. Anyone think they'd leave UCLA and USC on an island, with no team closer to them than Nebraska? Stanford as a package with Notre Dame makes sense. So do Oregon and Washington, plus CAL if ND stays indepen...

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https://twitter.com/mikem67_1967/status/1552118419826393089 No school is going to sign a long term contract and be stuck like ACC schools are right now. Probably 5 year max. It should also be no surprise the BIG 10 is going to add more west coast teams, unless you think the BIG 10 is gong to leave ...

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For those clamoring to get into the BIG 12 now, the money just won't be there. In fact, Wilner has a good article looking at football ratings between the BIG 12 minus OU and TX, and the PAC minus LA. The PAC is the clear winner, meaning the money will likely be better if we stay in the PAC. https://...

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If the UofA jumped to the Big 12 by itself, I would have to believe there would be at least one Pac-12 school that would decide to follow. The domino effect would begin. Would the ABOR allow Arizona to go alone without ASu? And would the per school payout be any better in the BIG 12? Probably not. ...

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Hard to say anything bad about what Fisch has done off the field so far. On the field? Different story. Still gets a pass this year in regards to W/L record, but we need to see improvement between the lines. Closer games, smart decisions in terms of play calling, and 60 minutes of fighting like Wild...

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Hey you were living in reality until you made this statement and then you went completely off the railing. No streaming service is going to share with another streaming service. Get off my lawn and talk about unicorns somewhere else. Why? ESPN, Amazon, and Apple are all businesses. If the numbers w...

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By the way, business competitors working together for mutual benefit happens all the time. There's even a business term for it. It's called collaboration. A more recent term you might have heard is "Coopetition," which comes from this Forbes article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/briannegarrett/2019/...

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No reason a game can't be streamed on both ESPN+ and Amazon Prime or AppleTV at the same time. Hey you were living in reality until you made this statement and then you went completely off the railing. No streaming service is going to share with another streaming service. Get off my lawn and talk a...

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No reason a game can't be streamed on both ESPN+ and Amazon Prime or AppleTV at the same time. Hey you were living in reality until you made this statement and then you went completely off the railing. No streaming service is going to share with another streaming service. Get off my lawn and talk a...

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Disappointing but not unexpected, if the ESPN numbers are true. Remember, they are a business and want to profit. And they are currently in a time period where they and FOX are the only ones bidding for PAC TV rights--and FOX has decided not to bid. Why would ESPN's first offer be high in this inst...

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