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"For six weeks this summer, Washington State coach Kyle Smith had a chance to work with Kim Aiken Jr., showing him where he fit in the Cougars’ plans. Then Aiken made a one-way trip to Tucson. “I guess the six weeks wasn’t as good as we thought,” Smith said, laughing. It wasn’t the Cougars’ practice...

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No TV, only streaming?

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Anytime I see Kentucky on a guys list I figure that’s where the kid will go. Of course we need a PG and maybe TyTy stays an extra year and the roster situation is not as good there? I became concerned when he openly said recruiting has been more difficult than he expected. Never an issue for Miller...

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I'm not buying Kansas or Baylor. What's wrong with Baylor? Seems they earned some respect last season. But yeah, Kansas is usually fool's gold. Interesting that AZ is nowhere near these preseason forecasts. There's a sizable gulf between AZ fan's expectations with Lloyd in year one and national med...

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Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:26 pm
BBQ wildcat wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:17 pm He needs to show he can deliver in year 1. Middle of the PAC is not going to cut it for me
Define "deliver."

Top 4 in the PAC. Two wins in PACTourney, Big dance invite 6 seed or better and 2 wins in the tourney. Not unreasonable IMO

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He needs to show he can deliver in year 1. Middle of the PAC is not going to cut it for me

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I’m just the opposite. Self sanctioning and the process of stringing along Miller, then firing him, then getting Lloyd (a lifetime assistant) all has left me feeling blah. Throw in all of the football coaching process, softball and baseball going 2 and Q..... Having by a hard time getting excited f...

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2) Completely agree with this and I hope we all can rest on this whether we like it or not. Yeah, we took a step back losing Miller. No, we don't know what the long-term future will hold. But this is our guy for the next few seasons and there's no sense in getting worked up, looking backwards, or e...

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I just don’t see why there is question about Lloyd succeeding at AZ. I think the program will self sustain given our recruiting advantages. I know he has never been the lead guy but his recruiting history points to a high level. His schemes seem to be enjoyable to watch and to play in. Unless he ju...

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Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:15 pm How long do you guys think it will take us to get back to being in the running for kids like this?

If Lloyd ends up being a flop as a HC, it could be a long, long time.

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This thread is like McDonald's.

I'm lovin' it.

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Very true. Rich Rod and Sumlin could also recruit. But only bodies to fill available scholarships.

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Olsondogg wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:23 pm I think the better question is can he coach?

So far, he hasn't shown either at Arizona. So I will definitely be in the "show me" phase at least until after the upcoming season -- and quite possible after that.

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Of course Tommy Boy can recruit. He’s proven that. The question is whether he can recruit high level kids to a program run by Tommy Lloyd, not to one run by Mark Few. Exactly what I have been saying. Much easier to recruit kids to play for a proven, successful head coach than to play for someone wh...

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this one definitely hurts but I really think we need to stay patient here and see how this off-season finishes. at the end of the day, it’s clear to me that this is a developmentally focused staff that doesn’t necessarily need to bring in top top tier talent to win games. Rationalize much? Lloyd sh...

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Since this is a place to post feelings others don't care about: Now that the dust has settled, and transfers and recruiting are underway, I'm left with the sinking feeling that this whole situation of firing Sean Miller without cause and breaking up his team in order to hire an assistant coach has ...

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Life of an AZ fan- April 6- "Sean Miller is going to have a top 15 team!!!!" April 7- "Sean Miller is fired" April 9- "We have our Head coach all lined up" April 10 "The University President got involved" April 14 "Tommy Lloyd is hired as Head Coach" also April 14 "Who the Hell is Tommy Lloyd? Tomm...

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Now that Spring ball is done, I hope those who were against this hire, including those who said they would not not support the program anymore, have changed their minds. Fisch is doing exactly what a head coach should be doing. When was the last time this program was getting national media coverage...

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Now that Spring ball is done, I hope those who were against this hire, including those who said they would not not support the program anymore, have changed their minds. Fisch is doing exactly what a head coach should be doing. When was the last time this program was getting national media coverage...

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How do we feel about Lloyd seemingly "self sanctioning" our scholarship limit this season? Because I fucking hate it. Now, I'm not having a good day, so I fucking hate a lot of things today, so please give me some feedback: yay or nay to self imposing a scholarship limit in order to get that out of...

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So are we holding the bar for Lloyd in his 1st year coaching to exceed Miller in his 17th year? Absolutely should be that. Miller's 17th year was substandard, based on his previous history and next year was prijected to be much better. So yes, IMO Lloyd should, in his first year here, exceed last y...

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Same for me. Lloyd inherited a top 20 / top 15 team. The core of the talent is back and should be much improved over last year. So why should he be given any leeway? Either he is or is not a HC who will be better than Miller? Why should he be given 3-4 seasons to get his shit together? He didn't inh...

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The “director of athletics and head of compliance” is also named in a separate aggravating factor. He’s still employed by the U of A, as are Head swimming coach Augie Bush and Dwight Dumais, who have their own violations to deal with. Robbins purged Men’s basketball but everyone forgets the swim te...

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I think they all will enter the transfer portal as a sign of loyalty to Miller. I hope the majority return quickly. I hope they all leave. Let Lloydbuild from nothing the way Miller had to. I have never before been so apathetic about UA basketball. Well, with the exception of when Lindsey was hired...

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I have never before been less enthused about UA's two major sports. Two coaches without a single win as a head coach. And, just for the shitty way that Sean Miller was treated, I hope both of Robbins's hand picked coaches fail miserably. Then maybe UA can start anew with a new prez and new AD who wi...

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UGH!!!!!

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And so the downward spiral begins.

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I don't think we know if Lloyd has a bigger upside. Or even if he has any upside from where he's at. If we shouldn't look at Damon, who HAS been a head coach, I really don't think we should look at someone who has NEVER been a head coach. Just goes to show how fucked up this whole thing has been, ev...

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I would rather hire a coach who amassed a .500 record at a place (city) that no one would want to be than a coach with a .000 record as a head coach. I really just don't get why people support hiring a career assistant in a minor conference. Yes, even though he is at the best school in that minor co...

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George Armstrong Custer and his 7th Cavalry were kicking butt, then the UA president got involved.

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Remember when Choo said that if nothing happened by Monday, it would be time to panic? Yeah, well it was time to panic when Robbins fired Miller. Because the firing, how it was all handled was so fucked up that you just KNEW the hiring process would be at least as fucked up....................becaus...

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I just don't get why so many people want Lloyd hired. The guy has never been a head coach, just an assistant. What makes him the best candidate? I think Gonzaga's success is mostly due to Few. There are head coaches out there that are more qualified than Lloyd. I am not going to panic like many her...

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Rehiring Sean looks 1000% better than any of the names that have been floated, with the possible exception of Musselman.

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Give him a 5 year ironclad contract and he might. But probably not, he is one proud fucker. And he has every right to be proud.

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LMFAO @ all of the Miller haters. This is what you get when you have an egotistical Prez and a sniveling AD, neither of whom have a clue. As I mentioned, either in another thread or earlier in this one, this is where the UA slips into mediocrity and irrelevence. I am totally done with the UA as long...

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Musselman is the man to be going after. It's time to ante up instead of cheaping out. You have to spend money to make money. The whole 'we don't have the money to hire a good HC right now' BS is boiling my blood. You either want to win or you don't; you find a way to get it done or you get the hell...

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Is there really any point in even having a team until the sanctions are over. They could give us a 10 year post season ban. Who knows? I wouldn't stick around if I were a player good enough to transfer. With no players and no coach and no post-season what's the point? Just cancel basketball until t...

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And so will begin our slide into mediocrity and irrelevence. Firing a coach with a .730 winning percentage, multiple conference championships, multiple NCAA appearances to hire, who? An assistant coach with pretty much nothing, Arizona most certainly should deserve much more than this. There really...

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It can always get worse. I'm sensing a pattern with you. Let me ask --- do you have any faith that Robbins/Heeke will do something ------ anything --- right? And yes, a pattern. I am still fkn pissed and depressed about what they did and how they did it. I have absolutely NO confidence in them.

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Chicat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:05 pm It can always get worse.

And it probably will.

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And so will begin our slide into mediocrity and irrelevence. Firing a coach with a .730 winning percentage, multiple conference championships, multiple NCAA appearances to hire, who? An assistant coach with pretty much nothing, Arizona most certainly should deserve much more than this. There really ...

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So here is my plan for Sean. Go overseas to coach and take all our foreign players with you. Pick up Foggy and Derrick while you are there. We have already seen two foreign player testimony that Sean is the best coach they have ever had. Whip ass in some European league and watch Arizona descend in...

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This thread is just so hilarious!!! For some years now, "some" people here have been saying how Mark Few is such a better coach than Miller. Now we have people saying that Lloyd is the one who has really been running the program, not Few, so we should just jump to hire him ASAP. Fkn mind boggling to...

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Olsondogg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:32 pm Anyone who says he wasn’t a good coach and a class act can go fuck themselves.

AMEN!!!!

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I would love to see the new coach lose every game if it would get Heeke and Robbins out one day sooner. Get a REAL prez and AD in and rebuild from there. If the new coach is successful, it will just feed Robbins' already oversized ego that much more. To the point where he could force out other coach...

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CSM. Always classy. As for me, not so classy, because I say fuck those fuckers, Heeke and Robbins. And I wish failure for anyone those two hire.

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Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:26 pm
BibbysTowelDude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:00 pm I can't wait until everyone pretends Lloyd is their guy.
Don't worry about me.

Until Robbins and Heeke are gone, I'm done with support of Arizona Athletics.

Same here.

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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/sean-miller-firing-college-basketball-losing-ncaa-case-235343119.html "Heeke reverted to empty clichés on the timing and reasoning for the firing because there are no good reasons without shedding light on the backroom fighting over Miller’s future. So he tap-danced, cl...

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Who would Robbins hire? Who is the college basketball equivalent of Sumlin?

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I completely agree with Spiff. I hope UA football and men's basketball teams get beat 100-0. Not only by ASU, but by every team they play, until Heeke and Robbins (and their hires) are gone.

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