Official Steak Thread

Moderators: UAdevil, JMarkJohns

Post Reply
User avatar
UAdevil
Posts: 4215
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:32 am
Reputation: 635
Location: LV-426

Official Steak Thread

Post by UAdevil »

All things steak. My favorite cut is easily the bone-in rib-eye. Love the flavor of the marbled fat.

What steak makes your mouth water?


Current favorite rib-eyes in AZ:

Monti's in Tempe
Cup Cafe at Hotel Congress (they only have it intermittently as a special)
'lil Abner's in Marana

Any other faves in AZ?

Also, any recommendations for a killer rib-eye in or near Anaheim? Going there for business and looking for a hung o' beef. My hotel is adjacent to both a Morton's and a Ruth's Chris, which are backups, but I'd rather find a kick ass non chain.

Image
Love the 've! Stop with the: Would of - Could of - Should of - Must of - Might of
User avatar
Jefe
Posts: 4932
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:29 am
Reputation: 154

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by Jefe »

User avatar
UAdevil
Posts: 4215
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:32 am
Reputation: 635
Location: LV-426

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by UAdevil »

Oh yeah. Uglies are tasty. Me and a buddy fairly regularly get togeth for grilled surf and turf. Ugly steaks and shrimp.
Love the 've! Stop with the: Would of - Could of - Should of - Must of - Might of
User avatar
phenom5
Posts: 185
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:09 pm
Reputation: 8

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by phenom5 »

First off...great site. http://amazingribs.com/table_of_contents.html

Second, interesting steak cooking technique. http://amazingribs.com/tips_and_techniq ... _meat.html
A co-worker told me about this, and I argued the classic "2 minutes, 1/4 turn sear until the blood runs through, then flip once" method. But I tried this, and it comes out incredible. With Tri-tip I do an indirect cook for around 20 minutes, then sear. For most everything else I use the technique above. It comes out really good.
User avatar
Longhorned
Posts: 14758
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:04 pm
Reputation: 975
Location: In a guayabera at The Sands Club, Arizona Stadium

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by Longhorned »

UAdevil wrote:All things steak. My favorite cut is easily the bone-in rib-eye. Love the flavor of the marbled fat.

What steak makes your mouth water?


Current favorite rib-eyes in AZ:

Monti's in Tempe
Cup Cafe at Hotel Congress (they only have it intermittently as a special)
'lil Abner's in Marana

Any other faves in AZ?

Also, any recommendations for a killer rib-eye in or near Anaheim? Going there for business and looking for a hung o' beef. My hotel is adjacent to both a Morton's and a Ruth's Chris, which are backups, but I'd rather find a kick ass non chain.

Image
My favorite? Bone-in ribeye.
User avatar
phenom5
Posts: 185
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:09 pm
Reputation: 8

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by phenom5 »

Longhorned wrote:
My favorite? Bone-in ribeye.
Yup.
User avatar
Longhorned
Posts: 14758
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:04 pm
Reputation: 975
Location: In a guayabera at The Sands Club, Arizona Stadium

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by Longhorned »

You can make a perfect steak on your own charcoal grill if you buy the perfect cut of meat. But people who insist on this miss out on the whole steakhouse experience. A huge part of that is the ambience and the side dishes. My favorite was Monty's. Jim Herrick's old haunt where he got himself into trouble. The waiters would take a baked potato and load it up with real bacon, butter, and sour cream with some green onions. Just wow.

What's the steakhouse in Tucson where Lute used to do his radio shows from?
User avatar
UAdevil
Posts: 4215
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:32 am
Reputation: 635
Location: LV-426

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by UAdevil »

^Would have Sullivan's or McMahon's for Lute's show. Both very mediocre for steaks imo.
Love the 've! Stop with the: Would of - Could of - Should of - Must of - Might of
User avatar
ASUCatFan
Posts: 956
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:44 pm
Reputation: 109

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by ASUCatFan »

I've never had a steak as good as the ones I make on my Weber at home at a restaurant and I have a hard time justifying going out and paying top dollar for one. The sides are great, though. I like it when they have a seafood option.
Last edited by ASUCatFan on Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
ghostwhitehorse
Posts: 15914
Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:29 pm
Reputation: 168
Location: Jupiter Trojan: 3317 Paris

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by ghostwhitehorse »

Image
User avatar
UAdevil
Posts: 4215
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:32 am
Reputation: 635
Location: LV-426

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by UAdevil »

ghostwhitehorse wrote:Image

Got a lot of vampires in your hood huh? :-)
Love the 've! Stop with the: Would of - Could of - Should of - Must of - Might of
User avatar
Merkin
Posts: 43350
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:31 am
Reputation: 1570
Location: UA basketball smells like....victory

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by Merkin »

ASUCatFan wrote:I've never had a steak as good as the ones I make on my Weber at home at a restaurant and I have a hard time justifying going out and paying top dollar for one. The sides are great, though. I like it when they have a seafood option.

And why I never order tri-tip at restaurants.

However, I am still not great at steaks as I am at tri-tip.
azcat49
Posts: 11314
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:33 pm
Reputation: 1034
Location: Gilbert Az

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by azcat49 »

I am a fan of the steaks at Durants in downtown Phoenix
Waiting at the Rose Bowl patiently for the cats to arrive
"I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more wildcat sports"
2019 BDW Survivor Pool Champion
User avatar
Longhorned
Posts: 14758
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:04 pm
Reputation: 975
Location: In a guayabera at The Sands Club, Arizona Stadium

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by Longhorned »

azcat49 wrote:I am a fan of the steaks at Durants in downtown Phoenix
So am I. So is my wife. And talking about ambiance. But those are spectacular cuts to begin with. And the food and cocktails are impeccably prepared.
User avatar
beames
Posts: 37
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:48 am
Reputation: 0
Location: Anthem

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by beames »

Bone-in ribeyes in order from best to worst: Vic and Anthony's (with some lobster bisque to start it off), CUT (dry-aged), or Mastro's, all in Vegas. Still waiting to try the Mastro's locations in Scottsdale, though I am concerned my nice shirt, pants, and shoes combo that I can get away with in Vegas will not suffice there.
User avatar
the real dill
Posts: 1721
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:08 pm
Reputation: 0

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by the real dill »

The main thing is making sure you get a Prime cut of meat. It's all the difference in the world. With a prime cut of meat, you should only use salt and pepper. Maybe olive oil if you're to lazy to olive oil the grates of your grill instead. I prefer Hawaiian Red Sea Salt Coarse and cracked black pepper.

I grill a minute and a half on each side to char it (over as high of heat as I can get), and then move it over to the cool side of the grill lid closed for about 10 minutes to finish up. That is for medium rare. If you like rare, you can really just do 2 min over direct heat on each side. I also let the steak rest for 5 minutes after it comes off the grill. I've read both this helps and doesn't so who knows.

If you're going to grill less than Prime, just grill a hamburger patty, dump a bunch of steak sauce on it, and call it a steak.

Image
User avatar
scumdevils86
Posts: 11662
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:34 pm
Reputation: 231
Location: t-town

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by scumdevils86 »

not really a steak but I picked up a $8 on sale London broil at Safeway the other day and wasn't even sure how I wanted to cook it...but I was rather impressed with the results.

blended together a marinade of garlic, salt, soy sauce, honey, balsamic, and red wine and marinated the meat for about 18 hours. seared it in my le creuset for about 2 minutes on each side then placed it in a 350 degree oven for about 25 minutes. I had no idea how long I should cook it for and didn't even have a thermometer.

it turned out absolutely perfect. tender, very juicy, picture perfect evenly cooked medium rare throughout the entire 3 lb roast. I had no real plan of cooking it and lo and behold it turned out to be the most amazingly well cooked cut of beef I have ever had.
User avatar
TheBlackLodge
Posts: 480
Joined: Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:51 am
Reputation: 0

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by TheBlackLodge »

the real dill wrote:The main thing is making sure you get a Prime cut of meat. It's all the difference in the world.
I'd cook prime beef everyday…as long as someone else is buying.
With a prime cut of meat, you should only use salt and pepper.


Agreed, simple but generous seasoning is all you need. Beef (especially grass-fed) has a lot of natural flavor. Why mask that great steak taste?
Maybe olive oil if you're to lazy to olive oil the grates of your grill instead.
I just use vegetable or peanut oil for my grates, but I also don't buy prime beef either.
If you're going to grill less than Prime, just grill a hamburger patty, dump a bunch of steak sauce on it, and call it a steak.
See I don't buy this sentiment. The home cook can make an excellent steak by abiding some simple rules:

1. Buy the right cut of meat
2. Dry-age it yourself (mainly for ribeyes and t-bone/porterhouse)
3. Allow the meat to come up to room temperate (30 mins for smaller cuts, up to 60 mins for thicker steaks)
4. Season liberally with salt and pepper
5. Cook using high heat to sear the outside and low, indirect heat to finish it off (I do the opposite order for leaner cuts like tenderloin)
6. Let the meat rest after cooking (5 mins for little steaks, up to 10 for bigger ones)

Besides, if we're going to get snooty about prime beef, anything you or I can get at our local butcher shop has already been picked over by top-drawer steakhouses and restaurants. We're basically getting their sloppy seconds.
Formerly McLurvin
User avatar
UAdevil
Posts: 4215
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:32 am
Reputation: 635
Location: LV-426

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by UAdevil »

Steak sauce should only be reserved for really shitty steaks. Even then...
Love the 've! Stop with the: Would of - Could of - Should of - Must of - Might of
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26569
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1559

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by azgreg »

Don't forget the catsup.
User avatar
scumdevils86
Posts: 11662
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:34 pm
Reputation: 231
Location: t-town

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by scumdevils86 »

azgreg wrote:Don't forget the catsup.
Image
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26569
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1559

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by azgreg »

Our language can be kinda goofy sometimes.
User avatar
the real dill
Posts: 1721
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:08 pm
Reputation: 0

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by the real dill »

TheBlackLodge wrote:
the real dill wrote:The main thing is making sure you get a Prime cut of meat. It's all the difference in the world.
I'd cook prime beef everyday…as long as someone else is buying.
With a prime cut of meat, you should only use salt and pepper.


Agreed, simple but generous seasoning is all you need. Beef (especially grass-fed) has a lot of natural flavor. Why mask that great steak taste?
Maybe olive oil if you're to lazy to olive oil the grates of your grill instead.
I just use vegetable or peanut oil for my grates, but I also don't buy prime beef either.
If you're going to grill less than Prime, just grill a hamburger patty, dump a bunch of steak sauce on it, and call it a steak.
See I don't buy this sentiment. The home cook can make an excellent steak by abiding some simple rules:

1. Buy the right cut of meat
2. Dry-age it yourself (mainly for ribeyes and t-bone/porterhouse)
3. Allow the meat to come up to room temperate (30 mins for smaller cuts, up to 60 mins for thicker steaks)
4. Season liberally with salt and pepper
5. Cook using high heat to sear the outside and low, indirect heat to finish it off (I do the opposite order for leaner cuts like tenderloin)
6. Let the meat rest after cooking (5 mins for little steaks, up to 10 for bigger ones)

Besides, if we're going to get snooty about prime beef, anything you or I can get at our local butcher shop has already been picked over by top-drawer steakhouses and restaurants. We're basically getting their sloppy seconds.
Agree. I'm just a snob on the cut of meat when it comes to steak. I forgot to add, make sure you get your steak cut at least 1 1/2 inches thick. I get mine cut 2 inches.

I don't have the balls to dry-age my own mean. Where do you do this? Garage? What is your method? Isn't essentially hanging the meat in a dark place until it molds over?
User avatar
Longhorned
Posts: 14758
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:04 pm
Reputation: 975
Location: In a guayabera at The Sands Club, Arizona Stadium

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by Longhorned »

Dill, Alton Brown has an episode from about 13 years ago where he shows how to age steak in your refrigerator using a glass container with holes in it, as I recall imperfectly. It's out there somewhere if you want a new hobby without the mold.
User avatar
scumdevils86
Posts: 11662
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:34 pm
Reputation: 231
Location: t-town

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by scumdevils86 »

Longhorned wrote:Dill, Alton Brown has an episode from about 13 years ago where he shows how to age steak in your refrigerator using a glass container with holes in it, as I recall imperfectly. It's out there somewhere if you want a new hobby without the mold.
this? http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alto ... index.html
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26569
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1559

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by azgreg »

Alton Brown is awesome.

User avatar
TheBlackLodge
Posts: 480
Joined: Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:51 am
Reputation: 0

Re: Official Steak Thread

Post by TheBlackLodge »

the real dill wrote:I don't have the balls to dry-age my own mean. Where do you do this? Garage? What is your method? Isn't essentially hanging the meat in a dark place until it molds over?
Looks like SD86 and Greg beat me to the punch. I use the roasting pan and extra rack from my toaster oven because it takes up less room in the refrigerator than a half sheet pan. Remember to change the paper towel everyday to prevent leathery spots, and if some of the towel sticks to meat just use a little cooking spray to take it off. Three days later, a one-pound steak will have lost about one to two ounces of weight, all of which is water.
Formerly McLurvin
Post Reply