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Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:48 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
rgdeuce wrote:
Chicat wrote:Maybe it is what Miller is teaching them. It happened right in front of him. Can't imagine he wouldn't have corrected it right then and there if that wasn't what he wanted.
No coach is teaching that. You are always taught to avoid the corners, each boundary line acts as another defender, so you essentially got three men on you if just one traps you in that corner. Probably not seeing a reaction from Miller because I think we have only had one turnover in the limited times we have been pressed, but several close calls.

I get that Spliff and our 1-2-2 was the same in HS, but the point was always taught to push it up the floor if that's what the defender gives you. If you can keep it in your best ball handlers hands, thats ideal, hes probably the best passer on your team too and will have the advantage on his man plus the ability to distribute or make the appropriate decision at mid court or beyond. And two options is better than one regardless, pass, or dribble. Trapped in a corner, you only have one, pass, and even then, you might not have the best angle or sight line to get off a good pass.

My guess is he is not ok with it but with presses being fluid situations and considering the limited time this team sees it, views it as a work in progress
I don't entirely disagree. That's why I'd prefer to have the entry pass go to ft line extended, because that gives the receiving player time and space to make a move.

Part of it was that ASU was keeping 2 bigs back at all times and not attacking the first pass. As soon as the ball got past the corner man, the press was done because we had a 2 on 1 or just a free dribbler. I can't imagine Miller was unhappy with the results. Being in the bonus, if you're strong against the trap, you should get fouled a lot in that situation, and we did.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:48 pm
by PHXCATS
97cats wrote:thought the first 'T' was a blatant overreaction from the official
He was on the refs the entire game. Should have been given a tech way before he got his first.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:31 pm
by Bangkok Wildcat
I wish the title of this thread was 'Suck it, Bobby Hurley' instead:-)

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:41 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:I wish the title of this thread was 'Suck it, Bobby Hurley' instead:-)
I don't want to be uncharitable. I wish him many more days like Sunday.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:50 pm
by Bangkok Wildcat
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:I wish the title of this thread was 'Suck it, Bobby Hurley' instead:-)
I don't want to be uncharitable. I wish him many more days like Sunday.
You are too kind and classy Spiff :-) .....I still would love someone to photoshop the Hurley ejection pic with a Baby's Hat and pacifier....that would be funny.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:51 pm
by UAEebs86
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:I wish the title of this thread was 'Suck it, Bobby Hurley' instead:-)
I don't want to be uncharitable. I wish him many more days like Sunday.
You are too kind and classy Spiff :-) .....I still would love someone to photoshop the Hurley ejection pic with a Baby's Hat and pacifier....that would be funny.

Man I miss Katzenfreund.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:57 pm
by Bangkok Wildcat
UAEebs86 wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:I wish the title of this thread was 'Suck it, Bobby Hurley' instead:-)
I don't want to be uncharitable. I wish him many more days like Sunday.
You are too kind and classy Spiff :-) .....I still would love someone to photoshop the Hurley ejection pic with a Baby's Hat and pacifier....that would be funny.

Man I miss Katzenfreund.
Holy Crap, love that Dude! What happened to him???

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:59 pm
by UAEebs86
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:I wish the title of this thread was 'Suck it, Bobby Hurley' instead:-)
I don't want to be uncharitable. I wish him many more days like Sunday.
You are too kind and classy Spiff :-) .....I still would love someone to photoshop the Hurley ejection pic with a Baby's Hat and pacifier....that would be funny.

Man I miss Katzenfreund.
Holy Crap, love that Dude! What happened to him???
After one of the mods took down a link he posted to a picture of Machina, he deleted all his posts and never came back.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:05 pm
by Bangkok Wildcat
UAEebs86 wrote:
Man I miss Katzenfreund.
Holy Crap, love that Dude! What happened to him???[/quote]

After one of the mods took down a link he posted to a picture of Machina, he deleted all his posts and never came back.[/quote]

Thanks UAE.....that sucks! He always made me laugh... even when making fun of me :-).

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:14 pm
by rgdeuce
Hurley taunting Higgins on twitter now. What a moron.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:16 pm
by azcat49
rgdeuce wrote:Hurley taunting Higgins on twitter now. What a moron.
What? The ref? You have got to be kidding.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:18 pm
by rgdeuce
Dont know how to embed tweets but "I'm enjoying Higgins work... Ben Higgins..The bachelor, of course"

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:20 pm
by azcat49
What an idiot. Leave it alone Hurley. He took a hit from the national press and it won't get better being childish. Glad he is a clown devil

Higgins has worked like 7 final fours so his work is respected by those that evaluate officials

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:21 pm
by ASUHATER!
There's a story on sports illustrated on his behavior. Great press for asu.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:23 pm
by AZCatGirl
rgdeuce wrote:Dont know how to embed tweets but "I'm enjoying Higgins work... Ben Higgins..The bachelor, of course"
ASU and Hurley really are a perfect fit.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:42 pm
by mrqsjhnsnsux
Higgins is a busy man. Hit Zues and Hurley yesterday, flew to Kansas and tagged Seldon and Woodard tonight.

The one on Zues, Higgins made the bad call and Zues told him it was bullshit directly. The first one on Hurley, Higgins was on the baseline handing the ball to Allen and the official on the other end of the floor made the call. Higgins heard Hurley say something to the other official while walking away and below the whistle. The second one was the same, another official made the call and Higgins put himself in the middle. Not saying that either weren't deserved, but I don't remember too many officials calling technicals when they're not the one being yelled at.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:53 am
by Bangkok Wildcat
AZCatGirl wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:Dont know how to embed tweets but "I'm enjoying Higgins work... Ben Higgins..The bachelor, of course"
ASU and Hurley really are a perfect fit.
Well-said AZCatGirl :-)......just think, not even a half-season under his belt at ASSU and he's giving us these gems.....should be good fun going forwards. Perfect fit for a low class institution and fanbase like ASU :lol:

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:24 am
by Chicat
AZCatGirl wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:Dont know how to embed tweets but "I'm enjoying Higgins work... Ben Higgins..The bachelor, of course"
ASU and Hurley really are a perfect fit.
Nothing like being a low class a-hole right out of the gate. Does he think he's endearing himself to ANY official? Good luck getting any 50/50 calls from here on out you classless douche.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:42 am
by rgdeuce
Based on what those Toledo fans said in the link I posted earlier, this will probably continue until he bounces for a better job, or bounces because he gets tired of getting shafted by the league officials because they cannot stand him. In one season in the MAC, he was the most hated coach by both officials and other coaches, and constantly whining and getting t'd up. That is pretty damn impressive for only being in a conference one year.

And when York was questioned about the whole thing, he responded with, "That's just who he is." Pretty telling.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:49 am
by cats101
rgdeuce wrote:Dont know how to embed tweets but "I'm enjoying Higgins work... Ben Higgins..The bachelor, of course"
Woooow

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:29 am
by Spaceman Spiff
cats101 wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:Dont know how to embed tweets but "I'm enjoying Higgins work... Ben Higgins..The bachelor, of course"
Woooow
Higgins has an itchy trigger finger, Hurley has an itchy twitter finger.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:55 am
by Merkin
Hurley can give it, but not take it.

From the Arizona Wildcats Basketball FB page.

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Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:05 am
by Chicat
He's a sensitive little bitch, isn't he?

Someone should ask him if he wears his seat belt when driving home after being thrown out of games . . .

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:10 am
by Olsondogg
Anyone who is shocked that Hurley is a whiny little bitch obviously didn't watch him play college basketball. I mean, he's the exact same guy 30 years later.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:36 am
by carolinacat
There are 11 coaches in the Pac 12 who have won more games as head coaches and more NCAA tournament games. Why should ESPN or any other media outlet be celebrating Hurley's tantrum? It's not as though his team got screwed by officiating costing them a win. ASU got some favorable ticky-tack calls prior to the tantrum that allowed their players to go to the FT line. Then Hurley loses his mind when the refs continue to call the game tight and ASU is called for the fouls. You can't have it both ways.

If Ken Bone had a tantrum like Hurley's while coaching Wazzu a few years ago, would anyone have cared? Why is Hurley given a pass as though he's accomplished something as a head coach? He hasn't and should sit his butt down. He's got zero equity in this conference or even as an NCAA coach for that matter. That's not doubting his ability to build a program and be successful as ASU. But he's got a lot of nerve acting as though he can just show up because he played at Duke and can act anyway he likes.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:39 am
by Olsondogg

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:40 am
by pokinmik
Olsondogg wrote:Anyone who is shocked that Hurley is a whiny little bitch obviously didn't watch him play college basketball. I mean, he's the exact same guy 30 years later.
At their core, the majority of people don't change too much throughout their lives personality-wise. I'm guessing Hurley was a whiny little bitch when he had his Pampers on and will be a whiny little bitch with his Depends on.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:01 am
by catgrad97
carolinacat wrote:There are 11 coaches in the Pac 12 who have won more games as head coaches and more NCAA tournament games. Why should ESPN or any other media outlet be celebrating Hurley's tantrum. It's not as though his team got screwed by officiating costing them a win. ASU got some favorable ticky-tack calls prior to the tantrum that allowed their players to go to the FT line. Then Hurley loses his mind when the refs continue to call the game tight and ASU is called for the fouls. You can't have it both ways.
Dude, this is Bobby Hurley and ESPN we're talking about. Dick Vitale practically treated him like he was his own son on-air when he played for Duke.

Of course there are prejudices at work here, as soft and trivial as they may be. ESPN has contractual, conference and K loyalties that clearly extend to Duke entitlement.

If Bone, Miller, or any other coach besides Dawkins had thrown that kind of fit in his first year, public opinion would've come down on him like a ton of bricks.

As it is, I don't know where he's been "given a pass" or "celebrated," but why Hurley hasn't been fined for his outburst by this point is a matter best left to the Pac-12 office and its own prejudices.
"I always want the spotlight to be on the performers, the guys on the floor and nothing more than that," Hurley said. "And that goes for all of us. It goes for coaches, officials, everyone. It should always be about the players -- players should decide the game."
This isn't an apology. This is denial.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:08 am
by Merkin
Olsondogg wrote:Anyone who is shocked that Hurley is a whiny little bitch obviously didn't watch him play college basketball. I mean, he's the exact same guy 30 years later.

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Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:09 am
by Luuuuuuuute
AZCatGirl wrote: ASU and Hurley really are a perfect fit.
So Bobby Hurley just admitted to watching The Bachelor? That won't come back to haunt him in any road arenas at all. ;)

I finally rewatched the game to see the elbow to York. For them to review that and not call ANYTHING is a complete joke. Even if it didn't fully land on Gabe's head/face, there seemed to be clear intent based on Atwood's facial expressions. Seeing it live (granted, it was from the upper deck) it looked to me like he threw an elbow, and the TV announcers seemed to agree that it was at the VERY LEAST a flagrant, and could/should have been an ejection.

When your guy gets away with that, and your team then goes on to get in the double bonus with 12 minutes to go, you have ZERO reason to complain about the officiating, which makes Hurley seem even more like a petulant child. You can take the boy out of Duke, but can't take Duke out of the boy.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:12 am
by CalStateTempe
I'm with you G, why hasn't he been fined by the pac12 yet? But miller was his appropriate Vegas tirade.

2. I hope McKale trolls the shit out of Hurley when asu comes to town in march.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:30 am
by dirtbags
Chicat wrote:He's a sensitive little bitch, isn't he?

Someone should ask him if he wears his seat belt when driving home after being thrown out of games . . .

woaaaaah! went there! :lol:

to answer your question - hurley doesn't drive; he walks home in his ITZs :D

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:07 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
dirtbags wrote:
Chicat wrote:He's a sensitive little bitch, isn't he?

Someone should ask him if he wears his seat belt when driving home after being thrown out of games . . .
woaaaaah! went there! :lol:

to answer your question - hurley doesn't drive; he walks home in his ITZs :D
Speaking of ITZs, why does he dive on the floor for a loose ball when all the other players are imaginary? Why is there a loose ball in the first place? How many players said not to ITZ first? Did he singlehandledly kill that entire company?

Bobby Hurley 1993 ITZ Basketball Shoe Commercial …: http://youtu.be/PzZHzcRYJNE" target="_blank

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:12 pm
by dirtbags
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Speaking of ITZs, why does he dive on the floor for a loose ball when all the other players are imaginary? Why is there a loose ball in the first place? How many players said not to ITZ first? Did he singlehandledly kill that entire company?

Bobby Hurley 1993 ITZ Basketball Shoe Commercial …: http://youtu.be/PzZHzcRYJNE" target="_blank
also, if hurley slaps the court floor and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:26 pm
by rgdeuce
CalStateTempe wrote:I'm with you G, why hasn't he been fined by the pac12 yet? But miller was his appropriate Vegas tirade.

2. I hope McKale trolls the shit out of Hurley when asu comes to town in march.
It's unreal, really. I'm not even sure it has been acknowledged. The actions themselves and the complete lack of remorse in the presser after? Maybe they are just keeping it under wraps so the big "f--- you" that comes from the officials down the road won't be so blatantly obvious? Maybe they are still in the planning stages of where they are going to send the next ref that runs him out of a game? Regardless, what kind of message is that sending? You would think they would be smarter than that after that Miller/Vegas debacle blew up in their faces.

I wish I had seats anywhere close to the ASU bench for that game. Hurley would be getting it all night long (pause) and there is PLENTY of easy, clean material that would not offend any children/older fans that would get you asked to leave.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:28 pm
by ASUHATER!
You can count on the zona zoo being all over Hurley when Asu comes to Tucson

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:30 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
dirtbags wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Speaking of ITZs, why does he dive on the floor for a loose ball when all the other players are imaginary? Why is there a loose ball in the first place? How many players said not to ITZ first? Did he singlehandledly kill that entire company?

Bobby Hurley 1993 ITZ Basketball Shoe Commercial …: http://youtu.be/PzZHzcRYJNE" target="_blank
also, if hurley slaps the court floor and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
That commercial was the inspiration for the film "A Beautiful Mind."

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:37 pm
by rgdeuce
ASUHATER! wrote:You can count on the zona zoo being all over Hurley when Asu comes to Tucson
It's one thing to get it from the student section. It's another to get it from any of us, who were actually alive and not in their mother's ovaries or yet to be developed in their father's testes when the world was introduced to the Bobby Hurley s--t show. When is someone like us given the opportunity to let out years of Duke hatred on one of the big 3 poster boys for Duke hatred? And he is an easily rattled, easy mark too, so you know he is going to hear and absorb every word :lol: The Zona Zoo should be asked to show up early and at minimum watch that ESPN 30 for 30 Laettner/Duke episode on the scoreboard.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:53 pm
by Jefe
Higgins did Kansas/Oklahoma last night. 3 techs called but I didnt see if it was him. Anyone?

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:14 pm
by Chicat
Jefe wrote:Higgins did Kansas/Oklahoma last night. 3 techs called but I didnt see if it was him. Anyone?
He called two of them I believe, but not the one on Self.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:47 pm
by TheGreatCatsby
Media will always focus on Hurley no matter where he's at, simply because he was a key player on one of the most infamous, memorable college basketball teams of all time in the past 50 years, right along the fab 5. That 30 for 30 show on everybody hates Christian Laettner explains it pretty well, the hate for Duke in general, and Bobby and Christian were the two lightening rods of that team. Nobody is going to forget that particular Duke team for a loooong long time.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:59 pm
by carolinacat
How fitting that ASU's two coaches in football and hoops are pretty much hated by everyone? Respected, sure. But hated, definitely. Both have embarrassing episodes. So....perfect fit for ASU.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:11 pm
by Chicat
Little sensitive bitch Bobby Hurley is quite the sensitive little bitch...

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:45 pm
by Bangkok Wildcat
carolinacat wrote:How fitting that ASU's two coaches in football and hoops are pretty much hated by everyone? Respected, sure. But hated, definitely. Both have embarrassing episodes. So....perfect fit for ASU.
+1.....nailed it carolinacat.......perfect fits for ASSU.....hard to find 2 bigger Dbags than Graham and Hurley......un-friggin-believable......even for a lowly fanbase such as ASU. Honestly, it's amazing to me that they find new ways to make them so despicable.

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Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:04 pm
by rgdeuce
I told him far worse hours after the ejection and he didnt block me. Try again?

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:16 pm
by Bangkok Wildcat
It is sad that Bobby Hurley suffers from 'premature ejection' though.....probably why he acts like such a petulant little turd ;-)

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:13 am
by Merkin

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:43 am
by DiehardDave37
Luuuuuuuute wrote:
AZCatGirl wrote: ASU and Hurley really are a perfect fit.
So Bobby Hurley just admitted to watching The Bachelor? That won't come back to haunt him in any road arenas at all. ;)

I finally rewatched the game to see the elbow to York. For them to review that and not call ANYTHING is a complete joke. Even if it didn't fully land on Gabe's head/face, there seemed to be clear intent based on Atwood's facial expressions. Seeing it live (granted, it was from the upper deck) it looked to me like he threw an elbow, and the TV announcers seemed to agree that it was at the VERY LEAST a flagrant, and could/should have been an ejection.

When your guy gets away with that, and your team then goes on to get in the double bonus with 12 minutes to go, you have ZERO reason to complain about the officiating, which makes Hurley seem even more like a petulant child. You can take the boy out of Duke, but can't take Duke out of the boy.
Does York have a shiner? If so, I hope someone sends a picture of it to several Pac-12 offices.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:17 am
by Spaceman Spiff
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Why can't we use this image for a big head? By the way if you google image search bobby hurley ejected, almost every picture is pure gold.

Re: Enjoy it, Bobby Hurley

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:44 am
by Merkin
Arizona Wildcats Basketball: How to get blocked on Twitter by ASU Coach Hurley

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