Bear Down Wildcats

If only he would have been honest about the child rapist he employed for several years.

This isnt just reprehensible, its head scratching. UA is "A Players Program" Who wouldnt want to play for a team like ours? What is the point of abusing guys going pro?

Banned!

Olsondogg wrote:Banned!

Convenient

Chicat wrote:

Olsondogg wrote:Banned!

Convenient

My thoughts exactly...didn't come up last year when they were undefeated at the time eh?

Olsondogg wrote:

Chicat wrote:

Olsondogg wrote:Banned!

Convenient

My thoughts exactly...didn't come up last year when they were undefeated at the time eh?

And it nips any further punishment in the bud so that when the team is significantly better in '16 and '17 they'll be able to play in the post season.

They should be Fine provided nobody on the staff goes around touching little boys.

Doesn't this actually help a bubble ACC team? Certainly can't hurt them.

Hope the NCAA does more - highly unlikely.

Olsondogg wrote:They should be Fine provided nobody on the staff goes around touching little boys.

Why that scandal got swept under the rug is besides me. It's one of the worst offenses anybody can commit, and he was on Boeheim's staff for how long? And there is testimony that Boeheim and his wife had suspicions? You can't spend 7 days a week with someone, be on the road, for multiple years (decades?) and not suspect something. I used to respect Boeheim, but the Fine story threw that entirely out the window and I think he's a bad guy.

salim'sheadband wrote:Or was it honest? I don't remember.

Refresh my memory.

Calipari just ripped on Karl-Anthony Towms. Hope the young man will be OK.

gumby wrote:Calipari just ripped on Karl-Anthony Towms. Hope the young man will be OK.

So you do remember then?

Anyway, I'm sure he will, because (among other things) when the time comes for him to leave, Calipari will tell the NBA teams how great he is, and how hard he works, and that he's ready for the next level, and Calipari will be there to support him at the draft and beyond. He won't undermine him every step of the way.

Consider your boss telling your coworkers that "Gumby fucked up today" when you know, yeah, you fucked up, but you're good at what you do and he's an okay boss and your coworkers are understanding and you'll all get past it. Now consider your boss going out of his way to tell your next employer that "No, Gumby's not fit to work for you," after you'd done great work for him, had already made the decision to leave the company, and had asked for a recommendation. And if you don't see the difference between the two there's not much more for me to say.

I don't understand gumby's role in this. But I do know that if gumby were to, say, park in his boss's reserved parking space, I'd hope his boss's car was already in that space, and that his boss was in his front seat and, upon impact, poured hot coffee all over his thighs. Because that boss really pissed me off with Salim's post.

Jim Boeheim is becoming Lou Holtz without the lisp--or vagueness.

Bosy Billups wrote:

Olsondogg wrote:They should be Fine provided nobody on the staff goes around touching little boys.

Why that scandal got swept under the rug is besides me. It's one of the worst offenses anybody can commit, and he was on Boeheim's staff for how long? And there is testimony that Boeheim and his wife had suspicions? You can't spend 7 days a week with someone, be on the road, for multiple years (decades?) and not suspect something. I used to respect Boeheim, but the Fine story threw that entirely out the window and I think he's a bad guy.

He's a bad guy.

salim'sheadband wrote:

gumby wrote:Calipari just ripped on Karl-Anthony Towms. Hope the young man will be OK.

So you do remember then?

Anyway, I'm sure he will, because (among other things) when the time comes for him to leave, Calipari will tell the NBA teams how great he is, and how hard he works, and that he's ready for the next level, and Calipari will be there to support him at the draft and beyond. He won't undermine him every step of the way.

Consider your boss telling your coworkers that "Gumby fucked up today" when you know, yeah, you fucked up, but you're good at what you do and he's an okay boss and your coworkers are understanding and you'll all get past it. Now consider your boss going out of his way to tell your next employer that "No, Gumby's not fit to work for you," after you'd done great work for him, had already made the decision to leave the company, and had asked for a recommendation. And if you don't see the difference between the two there's not much more for me to say.

Always a welcoming line for discussions.

I see the difference between what Boeheim did and your hyperbolic example. Anyway, sorry this stuck with you for so long.

gumby wrote:

salim'sheadband wrote:

gumby wrote:Calipari just ripped on Karl-Anthony Towms. Hope the young man will be OK.

So you do remember then?

Anyway, I'm sure he will, because (among other things) when the time comes for him to leave, Calipari will tell the NBA teams how great he is, and how hard he works, and that he's ready for the next level, and Calipari will be there to support him at the draft and beyond. He won't undermine him every step of the way.

Consider your boss telling your coworkers that "Gumby fucked up today" when you know, yeah, you fucked up, but you're good at what you do and he's an okay boss and your coworkers are understanding and you'll all get past it. Now consider your boss going out of his way to tell your next employer that "No, Gumby's not fit to work for you," after you'd done great work for him, had already made the decision to leave the company, and had asked for a recommendation. And if you don't see the difference between the two there's not much more for me to say.

Always a welcoming line for discussions.

I see the difference between what Boeheim did and your hyperbolic example. Anyway, sorry this stuck with you for so long.

I wasn't holding out much hope of a discussion with you anyway, since I've rarely, if ever, seen you offer more than the drive-by snide comment. Anyway yeah maybe someday I'll be as cool as you and it won't linger with me. I'll work toward it every day.

I have no memory of what this thread refers to but I take issue with the apparent low regard for the art of the drive by snide comment. Is there a disagreement about the degree to which Boeheim is a jerk to his players in press conferences?

I'm gonna honor the process of healing, and drive on.

I'm having flashbacks to my parents' divorce. Please don't make me choose who I want to live with!!!

salim'sheadband wrote:

gumby wrote:

salim'sheadband wrote:

gumby wrote:Calipari just ripped on Karl-Anthony Towms. Hope the young man will be OK.

So you do remember then?

Anyway, I'm sure he will, because (among other things) when the time comes for him to leave, Calipari will tell the NBA teams how great he is, and how hard he works, and that he's ready for the next level, and Calipari will be there to support him at the draft and beyond. He won't undermine him every step of the way.

Consider your boss telling your coworkers that "Gumby fucked up today" when you know, yeah, you fucked up, but you're good at what you do and he's an okay boss and your coworkers are understanding and you'll all get past it. Now consider your boss going out of his way to tell your next employer that "No, Gumby's not fit to work for you," after you'd done great work for him, had already made the decision to leave the company, and had asked for a recommendation. And if you don't see the difference between the two there's not much more for me to say.

Always a welcoming line for discussions.

I see the difference between what Boeheim did and your hyperbolic example. Anyway, sorry this stuck with you for so long.

I wasn't holding out much hope of a discussion with you anyway, since I've rarely, if ever, seen you offer more than the drive-by snide comment. Anyway yeah maybe someday I'll be as cool as you and it won't linger with me. I'll work toward it every day.

I don't know what we're yelling about!!!

LOUD NOISES!!!!!!

I'm thinking about firing up a charcoal grill out in the snow and cooking up an Ora King salmon.

RIP Boeheim and Syracuse Basketball

Boeheim will retire before he serves any of that.

Too bad he didn't before the violations went down, as it could've saved the program a good deal of grief.

But then again, it would've also made him look incredibly guilty--which he is, but that's beside the point in his mind.

Looking forward to Steven Masiello and Steve Lavin picking up the shattered 'cuse recruit remnants at Manhattan and St. John's.

Is this for the Bernie Fine thing?

Bosy Billups wrote:Is this for the Bernie Fine thing?

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... hoarlships

Bosy Billups wrote:Is this for the Bernie Fine thing?

Somehow, the Fine thing quieted down despite the distinct likelihood that SU and Boeheim probably knowingly employed a child molester and allowed him access to kids. This is other ways in which Boeheim is a bad person.

This should probably be peace out for Jim.

NCAA being honest with Boeheim.

salim'sheadband wrote:NCAA being honest with Boeheim.

salim'sheadband wrote:NCAA being honest with Boeheim.

You know, for whatever controversy surrounded the end of Lute's run here, at least he didn't behave like a jackass and send the program down in sleazy flames. The NCAA just trashed Cuse. The only thing they really left was the national championship.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Does this mean in 2 years they'll just waive all the rest of their punishment like they did with Penn St this year?

scumdevils86 wrote:Does this mean in 2 years they'll just waive all the rest of their punishment like they did with Penn St this year?

No, this is for violating NCAA rules, not unimportant stuff like covering up child rape. Syracuse did both, so they won't get the PSU retraction.

gotcha...i never found out that much about Mr. Boeheim in this situation. But now I know. And fck them.

Here's the full decision text. It gets pretty direct about Boeheim.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... G1wWmuMM-w

Wow. Sanctions for saying his players aren't ready for the League.

But, seriously, works for me. I would've taken the title, too.

Went from second to sixth in all-time wins. He should be severed from USA Baskeetball, too.

http://www.syracuse.com/orangesports/in ... _big-photo

Chicat wrote:I'm having flashbacks to my parents' divorce. Please don't make me choose who I want to live with!!!

Just saw this. It was all your mother's idea. Didn't even know she was mad.

gumby wrote:Wow. Sanctions for saying his players aren't ready for the League.

But, seriously, works for me. I would've taken the title, too.

Went from second to sixth in all-time wins. He should be severed from USA Baskeetball, too.

http://www.syracuse.com/orangesports/in ... _big-photo

You know, he's a great college basketball coach, but morally, his compass is off. He could really have used another year to develop that.

UNC has gotta be poopin

Yeah Roy has to be scrapping his pants about now

The NCAA is such a random institution that I'm not sure you can take anything from this investigation and scale it to UNC. If you wanted me to make a guess as to what is going to happen my guess would be this: when people compare the Cuse and UNC penalties, nobody will be able to make heads or tails of them or understand why this or that happened or be able to compare egregiousness versus penalty and make it comprehendible in any sort of way.

At least that has been the (recent?) history of the NCAA.

SCCats wrote:The NCAA is such a random institution that I'm not sure you can take anything from this investigation and scale it to UNC. If you wanted me to make a guess as to what is going to happen my guess would be this: when people compare the Cuse and UNC penalties, nobody will be able to make heads or tails of them or understand why this or that happened or be able to compare egregiousness versus penalty and make it comprehendible in any sort of way.

At least that has been the (recent?) history of the NCAA.

The NCAA might respond to UNC by revoking more scholarships from USC's football team. I agree wholeheartedly that their punishments (and the way they're rescinded) makes zero sense. Sometimes (Miami) it's partially based on how much misconduct the NCAA engages in during its own investigation.

Interesting that the NCAA has effectually punished Syracuse Basketball more harshly than they punished Penn State. I can't say it is unbelievable because it is the NCAA after all.

Douche statement from boeheim

Every statement by Boeheim is inherently douchy. Including "good morning".

Boeheim should retire at the end of this season.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:The NCAA might respond to UNC by revoking more scholarships from USC's football team.

Boise State football just got a letter from the NCAA: they're going to figure out the imputed value of Boise's schadenfreude over Syracuse getting sanctions, find that to be an improper benefit and declare those football players ineligible for the upcoming year and cause Boise State to lose some scholarships.

For the record, Seth Davis and Clark Kellogg had no issue with it.