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So Aaron Torres wrote this article re: UCLA

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:39 pm
by mytwocents
I'm not linking to the article because I don't want to drive traffic there but here's what he wrote about Twitter getting all upset about UCLA getting in to the tourney:

Twitter Reacts to UCLA's Tournament Bid

If you've read this website at all lately, you're probably pretty familiar with social media mobs. You know, the idea that whenever any type of news breaks in society these days --- whether it's in politics, in sports, whatever --- everybody is always quick to jump on social media with an opinion.

It doesn't matter where the opinion comes from. It doesn't matter what basis it stems from. What's most important is just getting your opinion out there, getting it out there as fast as you can, and making sure that the opinion is as extreme as possible. Facts aren't nearly as important as your sheer and utter anger!

Every social media overreaction sounds the same: "Something bad happened! Somebody needs to be fired! And it needs to have happened yesterday! For the sake of the children, won't somebody do something already!"

It's really a weird, sad phenomenon, but something that is impossible not to notice if you spend enough time on social media.

And it happens every day. The question you're probably asking yourself right now though is why we're specifically talking about it now.

Well, the answer is simple really: Because I couldn't help but notice an extreme example of it when the NCAA Tournament bracket was announced on Sunday.

Now look, I'm no bracket expert (I don't have the schoolin' for that), but overall, I actually thought the NCAA Tournament selection committee did pretty well this year. They adjusted teams based on how they're playing right now (for example, giving Wisconsin a No. 1 seed when they deserved it, and bumping Virginia down when they didn't) and by not overcompensating based on geography like in years past. The committee could've easily given Gonzaga a three-seed just to keep them in the West, but gave them the No. 2 seed (which they deserved) in the South instead.

But wait, there's more!

To the committee's credit there were no obvious screw jobs this year (like putting Kentucky as the eight-seed in Wichita State's bracket a season ago), and no brackets that appeared to be weighted heavily to favor one team (cough...Duke....cough) or to stack the deck against another (cough...Kentucky... cough) like in years past.

At first glance, it seemed to me like the tournament committee actually did a pretty solid job of picking and seeding the field this year.

The social media mob however, disagreed.

And let me tell ya, they were NOT happy about UCLA's inclusion in the NCAA Tournament field.

Again, I'm no bracket expert, but looking at the Bruins resume, things appear to be pretty solid to me. Nothing spectacular, but in a tournament where you have to take 68 teams (even though not nearly that many are deserving), the Bruins seem to match-up nicely with the last few teams who made it. They finished fourth in a solid Pac-12 conference, have wins over Oregon and Utah, and played a stacked out of conference schedule that included Kentucky, Gonzaga, Oklahoma and North Carolina.

Again, not great. But not awful. Well, except to the social media mob. Ask them, and they thought putting UCLA into the tournament field was not only a travesty, but arguably the biggest conspiracy since the 2000 Presidential election.

Some examples of the Tweets I saw Sunday night after UCLA was announced: an "awful job by the committee," the committee's "worst performance yet," and "Siskel and Ebert give the committee two thumbs down!" (Ok, I made that last one up). Some even went as far to say that putting UCLA in the field was "only about the money."

No seriously, people actually said it was about the money.

Let's dispel that one right away, because while I've never been in any high-stakes TV negotiations, that just might be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure that CBS and Turner still get the same sized check whether UCLA or North Dakota Tech is the last team in the field. I'm also pretty sure that ratings for the entire NCAA Tournament aren't going to be skewed by one UCLA game.... especially since, well, how do I put this nicely... nobody in LA cares about UCLA basketball.

No seriously, you've got to believe me on this one. I've lived in LA for three years now, and I've heard significantly more about the Lakers' lottery pick this winter on talk radio --- a pick they probably won't end up keeping, by the way --- than I've heard anything related to UCLA basketball. I can say with near certainty that putting them in the NCAA Tournament field wasn't a cash grab by anyone.

But if you listened to the social media mob on Sunday night, you would've thought that the committee negotiated a secret agreement with North Korea to get UCLA into the field.

And ultimately you know what I found so funny? How many of those outraged people actually watched UCLA play this season? I also wonder how closely the mob watched teams like Temple, Colorado State and Miami (FL) --- all schools that everyone is convinced should've gotten in over UCLA --- to see just how they stacked up against the Bruins.

Because I'll be honest, looking at their resumes, everybody has big-time flaws.

Take Temple for example, who went a combined 1-4 against the only two half decent teams in their conference, SMU and Cincinnati (and I say that as a graduate of UConn). Colorado State lost twice to Wyoming....who wouldn't have made the Big Dance if they hadn't won their conference tournament. Miami lost by 28 at home to Eastern Kentucky. Eastern Kentucky! Which sounds more like a turnpike than a college basketball powerhouse.

The point being that everyone's resumes have holes, and if we're being honest, there probably weren't 68 deserving teams to begin with. But somebody had to get in, and it just so happened to be UCLA.

And it leads me to the most important question: Is anyone that upset that UCLA made the field? Or did they simply see their buddy tweeting about it, do a quick search of UCLA's schedule and jump into the conversation because they felt like they had to?

It seems to me like it's probably the latter, but that's just the world we live in. This isn't about UCLA, it isn't about their schedule, and it's certainly not about Colorado State or Temple either. It's about the fact that in this day and age, everyone always has to be mad about something.

Yesterday, it just happened to be UCLA and the NCAA Tournament.

I can't wait to find out what it will be today.


I tweeted him that I disagreed and he asked me to lay it on him....so here's what I said and I'm just curious what you guys think:

While I agree that Twitter always likes to be mad at something and a lot of times it's fun to get in on the hate even if it's not something that would normally be on your list of 'important things that concern me'...I respectfully disagree with your take on this.

Part of what's so infuriating and what amplifies the twitter hate is that Scott Barnes defended the committees decision by saying things like, 'they passed the eye test' and 'we felt like they were gaining steam' and ‘it was one of the toughest decisions the committee had to make’.

For starters, I don’t know what eyes they were using to run this test but my guess is those eyes belonged to someone in the Helen Keller/Stevie Wonder group. I live in L.A. and went to Arizona and have 20/20 vision…so I’ve seen plenty of their games this year….

As for gaining steam…their last 8 games they went 5-3. And of those 5 wins 4 of them were literally to the 3 worst teams in the conference…teams that combined went 15-39 in conference play. So sure I guess you could squeeze out the ‘gaining steam’ argument but that would have to be assuming the locomotive was going downhill at a 90-degree angle.

As for the toughest decision…that’s total and complete BS because if it were THAT tough, they would have been either in a play in game or 16 seed…not an 11 seed…and 11 seed means they were SAFELY in the tournament.

You say that they finished 4th in a solid Pac12 conference…I guess it was semi-solid if you cut out 50% of the teams. And you mentioned their stacked out of conference schedule…well sure…but they lost every single one of those games…by double digits…and an average of 21 pts.

As for the money aspect, I’m no expert on media buying and the ins and outs of ad rates and in the grand scheme of things March Madness will draw a gazillion viewers regardless but at the same time, when they sell ad time next year, they need their numbers to be as high as possible to get the most money and I promise you that UCLA draws a hell of a lot more people than North Dakota Tech.

Another aspect of the money is that the UCLA athletic department gets a lot of donor money. It’s not so sexy to donate millions of dollars to a team that doesn’t get national attention so when Mo Ostin donates $10 million to go towards a new basketball facility there (a press release was put out 5 days ago), despite the whole ‘giving to for the love of giving thing’, something is expected in return and that’s to be able to say that you’re part of a nationally recognized, always in the spotlight group and the minute that loses it’s meaning, the money stops rolling in.

So when teams like CSU who’s all D1 games RPI rank is 29 vs. UCLA who ranks 48 and their non-conf games ranks 9 vs. UCLA who ranks 110, don’t get in but UCLA does, it really stands out as a blatant attempt by the committee to include a team based on everything BUT their actual relevant merits.

When something is so obvious that it defies logic and all sense of fairness then not only should Twitter and the rest of social media be mad, it’s their duty to do so.

Re: So Aaron Torres wrote this article re: UCLA

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:59 pm
by Chicat
Nice work MTC. You nailed it.

Re: So Aaron Torres wrote this article re: UCLA

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:19 pm
by mytwocents
Chicat wrote:Nice work MTC. You nailed it.
You think? Did I sound like I knew what I was talking about?

Cause crickets from him and that's pissed me off but maybe he's being nice cause I sounded like a moron?

Re: So Aaron Torres wrote this article re: UCLA

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:00 am
by Puerco
Nah. Spot on.

Re: So Aaron Torres wrote this article re: UCLA

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:00 am
by Chicat
No way, you hit every important point. There's a reason why social media went apeshit over UCLA getting into the tourney and that's because they out and out stole that bid. You illustrated that nicely.

If Torres hasn't answered back its probably because he's got nothing.

Re: So Aaron Torres wrote this article re: UCLA

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:24 am
by Bosy Billups
I would just add that the negativity for UCLA basketball is just insane, and Gottlieb is part right. Even their own fans, the UCLA rabid fans that love their team and follow every step of recruiting, are not that happy when they got in. Remember when we got in with Russ Pennell? Arizona was ecstatic. It was like that in reverse for them. Strange phenomenon. Seriously, BRO has turned into a group who wants the team to fail so they can fire Alford and get the next elite coach. Really odd.

You see that more than ever in twitter.

Re: So Aaron Torres wrote this article re: UCLA

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:29 am
by Olsondogg
That would be alot better than my response, which would have consisted of "Dude, uCla blows and nobody really gives a rats ass".

Re: So Aaron Torres wrote this article re: UCLA

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:32 am
by catgrad97
Bosy Billups wrote:I would just add that the negativity for UCLA basketball is just insane, and Gottlieb is part right. Even their own fans, the UCLA rabid fans that love their team and follow every step of recruiting, are not that happy when they got in. Remember when we got in with Russ Pennell? Arizona was ecstatic. It was like that in reverse for them. Strange phenomenon. Seriously, BRO has turned into a group who wants the team to fail so they can fire Alford and get the next elite coach. Really odd.

You see that more than ever in twitter.
Especially odd given the well-documented apathetic home attendance at Pauley.

So I guess the conclusion would be that your average UCLA basketball fan is one picky, spoiled m-f'er.

Re: So Aaron Torres wrote this article re: UCLA

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:43 am
by mytwocents
Thanks guys...It's almost unfollow worthy. I mean I know he's going to cry himself to sleep over it but I think that's rude and I'm glad to know I'm not totally clueless.

Oh...and FUCLA

Re: So Aaron Torres wrote this article re: UCLA

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:49 am
by Spaceman Spiff
You make more money as a leader, but you have more fun as a follower.

Every large scale criticism has some leaders and some followers. His article criticizes the process, but the result (pointing out teams with better resumes than UCLA didn't make it) is valid. It's weird to only get butthurt now. There's been a year in, year out criticism of teams that made it over other teams.

As for the $, when the committee is clearly pointing towards power 5 teams, it's only natural to speculate about why.

Re: So Aaron Torres wrote this article re: UCLA

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:44 pm
by Bangkok Wildcat
Excellent rebuttal MTC......UCLA should have been NIT or 1st round play-in.....not an 11 seed for sure.