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Do we know when the interview is? If he doesn't get the South Carolina job he fucked himself in recruiting super hard!!!

Hey now! I'm guessing the meet up is tomorrow. He's killing it in recruiting here. Always has. OKGs! Define an OKG.....surely not a coach that plays Prom whore.

ChiefSchadenfreude, ladies and gentlemen.

Chicat wrote:ChiefSchadenfreude, ladies and gentlemen.

German I am not Chi town. It's all fun and games until..,,oh, let's wait till next season.

Rich "Naijiel Hale" Rodriguez

I originally wanted him to stay but as this has been dragging out for the last month or so with no response from Rich Rod, now I just want Rich Rod to go and not let the door hit him on the way out.

It's clear he's either gone now or in the next year or two anyways.

For recruiting and the stability of the program, I want to find someone who is willing to stick it out here to actually build a program. It's clear Rich Rod isn't that guy.

Snake oil salesman

Chicat wrote:ChiefSchadenfreude, ladies and gentlemen.

Well given the amount of shit that posters have gotten (from the slurpers) for questioning and challenging RR on a number of fronts, he'll deserve to gloat a little bit if RR bolts.

I am still hoping chief does not get that opportunity... But the degree to which I rue the thought of RR leaving is dropping by the minute.

PS - Whose misfortune is chief celebrating? Certainly not RR whose already rich and going to get richer, no matter how this ends.

Chicat wrote:Merged your thread into this one Dill . . . . mostly because if I see another thread dedicated to whether RichRod will stay or go I might drink cheap whiskey until my liver falls out of my butthole.

How will bruins01 know to call me a racist asshole without my own thread? Please unmerge. You're intentionally trying to ruin my experience here.

Chicat wrote:

Harvey Specter wrote:

Irish27 wrote:Get Sonny Dykes on the phone.

So he can demand a raise in 3 years after winning 25% of his conference games? No thank you.

Any success whatsoever and he will punch his ticket as quickly as he can get out of town. That would be 3 schools in 5 years... The guy makes Graham look sedentary.

All coaches are mercenaries but he's at the extreme. His ambition casts a long shadow over his ability; the potential reward does not outweigh the risk.

You going to tell us who you would want?

I'd need a little bit of time, but off the top of my head I would rather see Matt Wells or Dino Babers get a shot. And that's not stretching with guys we MIGHT have a chance at, either.

Dykes is and always has been the kind of guy that is more worried about what his next job is going to be - and how he can 'position' himself for it - than he is about achieving results in his current role. And that dates back to his first year at Arizona as OC (and that is first hand knowledge, not speculation).

I have worked with plenty of Fucks like that over the years, and they are toxic. They never leave things better than they find them - but they always make sure they end up better off.

Always ask for a raise when you feel you've earned it. Don't ask for a raise until you have. Sorry... I don't think one marginally successful year in 3 tries is grounds for a fat bump. Cal had SIGNIFICANTLY more in the cupboard than his early results reflected.

Give him a 10-15K raise so he can say he makes more than McIntyre. That is the only coach in the conference that he has accomplished more than.

OK....
FIRST of all:
Sup.

Second... Who is this corderra (sp?) character?

Third...

RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:

He writes for ZZ. And has 88 followers and tweets out things like this: GL With your whole journalism thingy

Fourth...
Re RichRod sitch: A good Head Coach is one that can (in addition of course to coaching well) recruit well...and the way you do that is by selling YOUR program. So he can't walk into a recruits house and say, "I think you should come to UA because it's amazing and wonderful and great things gonna happen and I'm gonna take care of you (well, that last part is bs that ALL recruits find out the first day of practice but that's besides the point)...but personally, I'm not into all that good stuff so I won't be staying...kthxbye"
So he's also selling himself and that's what recruits buy in to. So either Greg knowingly is letting Rich recruit players on his dime that will at the very least be pissed, at worst, decommit and make UA look bad.... OR he knows that there's something else up with this whole SC thing and there's an ulterior motive or objective. ESPECIALLY given how hard he's been recruiting in Cali this week and his trip to Hawaii over our "bye" week.

Harvey Specter wrote:

Chicat wrote:ChiefSchadenfreude, ladies and gentlemen.

Well given the amount of shit that posters have gotten (from the slurpers) for questioning and challenging RR on a number of fronts, he'll deserve to gloat a little bit if RR bolts.

I am still hoping chief does not get that opportunity... But the degree to which I rue the thought of RR leaving is dropping by the minute.

PS - Whose misfortune is chief celebrating? Certainly not RR whose already rich and going to get richer, no matter how this ends.

Some people only show up when things are looking bleak or after losses. They seem to take special pleasure when things have gone wrong for the program and its fans. I have no issues with criticism of RR. He certainly deserves his fair share. No coach or leader is infallible. But to act like fans are dumb for wanting RR to succeed and for the team to do well, and that's your only schtick, is not something that sits well with me. Never will.

Harvey Specter wrote:

Chicat wrote:

Harvey Specter wrote:

Irish27 wrote:Get Sonny Dykes on the phone.

So he can demand a raise in 3 years after winning 25% of his conference games? No thank you.

Any success whatsoever and he will punch his ticket as quickly as he can get out of town. That would be 3 schools in 5 years... The guy makes Graham look sedentary.

All coaches are mercenaries but he's at the extreme. His ambition casts a long shadow over his ability; the potential reward does not outweigh the risk.

You going to tell us who you would want?

I'd need a little bit of time, but off the top of my head I would rather see Matt Wells or Dino Babers get a shot. And that's not stretching with guys we MIGHT have a chance at, either.

How do either of those guys systems fit our current personnel?

Chicat wrote:

Harvey Specter wrote:

Chicat wrote:ChiefSchadenfreude, ladies and gentlemen.

Well given the amount of shit that posters have gotten (from the slurpers) for questioning and challenging RR on a number of fronts, he'll deserve to gloat a little bit if RR bolts.

I am still hoping chief does not get that opportunity... But the degree to which I rue the thought of RR leaving is dropping by the minute.

PS - Whose misfortune is chief celebrating? Certainly not RR whose already rich and going to get richer, no matter how this ends.

Some people only show up when things are looking bleak or after losses. They seem to take special pleasure when things have gone wrong for the program and its fans. I have no issues with criticism of RR. He certainly deserves his fair share. No coach or leader is infallible. But to act like fans are dumb for wanting RR to succeed and for the team to do well, and that's your only schtick, is not something that sits well with me. Never will.

Some people are continuously on Twitter and not a free message board.

Got to keep those 250 followers constantly updated huh?

RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:

chiefzona wrote:He's losing recruits. He has to make a decision quickly.

Can make a case he has already. Not to publicly knock down the report. That's a decision (so far) that he wants to pursue other job. If it was false or something he didn't want to check out, he could knock it down. I'm sure he knows about it. Staying quiet (as we know) is a decision.

Or he's made a decision to leverage Byrne for more OR he's made the decision to go through the process and have the decision made for him by not getting an offer etc. But this decision takes time to play out.

Lots of decisions to make in this process. So far, he seems to already made some...

This shit screams of Rich Rod's agent trying to leverage Byrne. Good luck with that.

Maybe it helps push the timeline on an indoor facility....maybe?

Could assume that the Bruce Feldman tweet that RR meeting with SoCar was coordinated. Timed to not come out until RR back from his Hawaii and CA recruiting trips. That would have been awkward,

Feldman was close to being first one to report RR to AZ before Bryne tweeted out his pic of him and RR-Family. So AZ or RR camps use Feldman. Think Schad beat Feldman by 10 minutes though back then. But Schad said RR leading candidate. Feldman said RR would be named.

About timing though. Hell, it could very well be Byrne who leaked it because he was growing frustrated with RR playing the or a game and on the trail knowing all along he was going to meet with So.Car. A way to counterstrike - Politically speaking. Byrne would want to wait until RR back from recruiting not to protect AZ recruits interest with AZ. That would be Hell of a move by Byrne...

ChooChooCat wrote:

RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:

chiefzona wrote:He's losing recruits. He has to make a decision quickly.

Can make a case he has already. Not to publicly knock down the report. That's a decision (so far) that he wants to pursue other job. If it was false or something he didn't want to check out, he could knock it down. I'm sure he knows about it. Staying quiet (as we know) is a decision.

Or he's made a decision to leverage Byrne for more OR he's made the decision to go through the process and have the decision made for him by not getting an offer etc. But this decision takes time to play out.

Lots of decisions to make in this process. So far, he seems to already made some...

This shit screams of Rich Rod's agent trying to leverage Byrne. Good luck with that.

Maybe it helps push the timeline on an indoor facility....maybe?

I honestly don't see this as a push for more money, mainly because there isn't significantly more being offered by South Carolina and there isn't much room in that regard at UA. So if it is a shakedown, it was poorly thought out and won't be very successful.

I think RR has a genuine interest in getting back to the east coast. Not only for personal reasons but also to alleviate many of the issues he's complained about as far as recruiting, long distance road trips, and stupid start times.


As far as Feldman's tweet, he worked with RR at CBS. So I would guess that's where the interview info came from.

Chicat:

I've been saying all along RR has interest in leaving AZ (no problem with that. Hope he does now that his interest is public). Throwing out possibility Byrne counter striking back at RR slow playing it or being quiet about it while recruiting. If RR left, Byrne would need to move quickly on his own. Which I'm already sure he has plan(s) but need this to play out quickly.

EDIT: I actually hope IF RR doesn't get So.Car offer (would sound like - "RR no longer candidate at So.Car" - "RR not interested in So.Car" - "Don't know how these rumors start" etc. that Byrne doesn't agree to any new terms for RR. RR has one year with a winning conference record. 1-3 against those guys, longevity plan, top half paid in P12.

Actually think footballscoop beat Schad and then Feldman on RR to AZ

Chicat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:

chiefzona wrote:He's losing recruits. He has to make a decision quickly.

Can make a case he has already. Not to publicly knock down the report. That's a decision (so far) that he wants to pursue other job. If it was false or something he didn't want to check out, he could knock it down. I'm sure he knows about it. Staying quiet (as we know) is a decision.

Or he's made a decision to leverage Byrne for more OR he's made the decision to go through the process and have the decision made for him by not getting an offer etc. But this decision takes time to play out.

Lots of decisions to make in this process. So far, he seems to already made some...

This shit screams of Rich Rod's agent trying to leverage Byrne. Good luck with that.

Maybe it helps push the timeline on an indoor facility....maybe?

I honestly don't see this as a push for more money, mainly because there isn't significantly more being offered by South Carolina and there isn't much room in that regard at UA. So if it is a shakedown, it was poorly thought out and won't be very successful.

I think it's more of a shakedown in regards to speeding up the process on football facilities and not money honestly. Although do we actually know just how much SC would offer at this point? They're in pure desperation mode for sure and have more than enough money from SEC TV contracts alone to dwarf Arizona if need be. I mean look at the names associated with this search, Muschamp? Lincoln Riley? At this point Rich Rod is a homerun for them based on the circumstances.

If RR leaves I've got two words for all of you: therapy.














Actually, the two words: Chip Kelly. NFL isn't for him. Come back to the Pac and dominate once again. No way his brand of football will fly in the SEC or Big 10, but would be perfect at Arizona. Byrne does not play!

Go Cats!!

I'm fine with Dino Babers or Matt Wells if we could pull either.

ChooChooCat wrote:I think it's more of a shakedown in regards to speeding up the process on football facilities and not money honestly. Although do we actually know just how much SC would offer at this point? They're in pure desperation mode for sure and have more than enough money from SEC TV contracts alone to dwarf Arizona if need be. I mean look at the names associated with this search, Muschamp? Lincoln Riley? At this point Rich Rod is a homerun for them based on the circumstances.

Yeah but he's not a $4.5M/yr homerun. Not coming off 6-6 and bringing the 3-3-5 to the SEC. South Carolina fans may not be crazy with their expectations and demands, but I honestly think they'd riot if that was where his contract ended up being at.

Unless SC has an AD that ignores the boosters and alums, Rich Rod won't be going to SoCarolina. Those two groups are already grumbling no. Imagine this year's AZ defense playing against the SEC. No thanks, they are saying.

Chicat wrote:Got to keep those 250 followers constantly updated huh?

More like 3 followers. I had 4 but you unfollowed. I miss our back and forth discussions. Kisses.

CatsbyAZ wrote:Unless SC has an AD that ignores the boosters and alums, Rich Rod won't be going to SoCarolina. Those two groups are already grumbling no. Imagine this year's AZ defense playing against the SEC. No thanks, they are saying.

What if they pay him enough to leave Jeff behind?

What if the Muschamp part is just a cover to bring Will in as DC?

Nobody can guess how this might work itself out. We'll just have to wait and see.

Chicat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:I think it's more of a shakedown in regards to speeding up the process on football facilities and not money honestly. Although do we actually know just how much SC would offer at this point? They're in pure desperation mode for sure and have more than enough money from SEC TV contracts alone to dwarf Arizona if need be. I mean look at the names associated with this search, Muschamp? Lincoln Riley? At this point Rich Rod is a homerun for them based on the circumstances.

Yeah but he's not a $4.5M/yr homerun. Not coming off 6-6 and bringing the 3-3-5 to the SEC. South Carolina fans may not be crazy with their expectations and demands, but I honestly think they'd riot if that was where his contract ended up being at.

You definitely got me there.

Chicat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:I think it's more of a shakedown in regards to speeding up the process on football facilities and not money honestly. Although do we actually know just how much SC would offer at this point? They're in pure desperation mode for sure and have more than enough money from SEC TV contracts alone to dwarf Arizona if need be. I mean look at the names associated with this search, Muschamp? Lincoln Riley? At this point Rich Rod is a homerun for them based on the circumstances.

Yeah but he's not a $4.5M/yr homerun. Not coming off 6-6 and bringing the 3-3-5 to the SEC. South Carolina fans may not be crazy with their expectations and demands, but I honestly think they'd riot if that was where his contract ended up being at.

The 3-3-5 has been in the SEC before. Charlie Strong ran it AT South Carolina when he was DC. Joe Lee Dunn had success with it at Ole Miss under Billy Brewer and at Miss St under Jackie Sherrill.

Wasn't Auburn running the 3-3-5 before Muschamp took over as the DC there?

Between landing a decent bowl for a mediocre Arizona team and making sure its head football coach is secured through the next recruiting class, Greg Byrne is under an awful lot of pressure right now.

And if he pulls it off, Arizona should make him its athletic director for life. He's about the only person I trust in this whole process right now.

Because no matter what other drama anyone tries to throw on my wall and make stick, I still believe RR is going to pull a Robert Irsay on this program, and it won't necessarily be for another head coaching job.

Oh, and calling most coaches like him a "mercenary" is an insult to mercenaries. I don't fear Rich Rodriguez. I think he's incredibly weak and wishy-washy when it comes to what he wants, doesn't have the strength to stick out bad situations or the ramifications of his rhetoric and ultimately will always believe there's a better coaching job down the road.

Even if he comes back, this long silence of his will have done nothing to change my mind on that score.

The South Carolina boards are saying it's Muschamp even with the extra interviews being done.

I don't hold him talking to SC against him, considering he hasn't promised the fans or media that he's not going anywhere. He could be looking at a pay increase of 30-50% there, and pretty much any of us would entertain that. Lute talked to Kentucky. Tomey talked to Miami and Washington. Miller talked to Maryland. It happens.

azpenguin wrote:The South Carolina boards are saying it's Muschamp even with the extra interviews being done.

I don't hold him talking to SC against him, considering he hasn't promised the fans or media that he's not going anywhere. He could be looking at a pay increase of 30-50% there, and pretty much any of us would entertain that. Lute talked to Kentucky. Tomey talked to Miami and Washington. Miller talked to Maryland. It happens.

Where are the South Carolina boards? Scout's is vacant. Rivals?

CatsbyAZ wrote:

azpenguin wrote:The South Carolina boards are saying it's Muschamp even with the extra interviews being done.

I don't hold him talking to SC against him, considering he hasn't promised the fans or media that he's not going anywhere. He could be looking at a pay increase of 30-50% there, and pretty much any of us would entertain that. Lute talked to Kentucky. Tomey talked to Miami and Washington. Miller talked to Maryland. It happens.

Where are the South Carolina boards? Scout's is vacant. Rivals?

http://southcarolina.forums.rivals.com/ ... -forum.10/" target="_blank

CatsbyAZ wrote:

azpenguin wrote:The South Carolina boards are saying it's Muschamp even with the extra interviews being done.

I don't hold him talking to SC against him, considering he hasn't promised the fans or media that he's not going anywhere. He could be looking at a pay increase of 30-50% there, and pretty much any of us would entertain that. Lute talked to Kentucky. Tomey talked to Miami and Washington. Miller talked to Maryland. It happens.

Where are the South Carolina boards? Scout's is vacant. Rivals?

The big one for them is cockytalk.com as far as I've found. Their thread on the coach search has over 21,000 replies and there's a new page worth every few minutes.

uh oh, East Carolina now has a preemptive HC opening!

azpenguin wrote:The big one for them is cockytalk.com as far as I've found.

I looked at that board name all strange, wondering why they called their board that.

It took a couple seconds to figure it out.

SCCats wrote:

azpenguin wrote:The big one for them is cockytalk.com as far as I've found.

I looked at that board name all strange, wondering why they called their board that.

Took about three seconds to figure it out.

The other day my wife went on our tablet and yells out, "What the fuck?? Why are you going to CockTalk.com???"

femcat cares if you watch pornoz?

Chicat wrote:The other day my wife went on our tablet and yells out, "What the fuck?? Why are you going to CockTalk.com???"

AAAAAAAND there it is.

wyo-cat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:I think it's more of a shakedown in regards to speeding up the process on football facilities and not money honestly. Although do we actually know just how much SC would offer at this point? They're in pure desperation mode for sure and have more than enough money from SEC TV contracts alone to dwarf Arizona if need be. I mean look at the names associated with this search, Muschamp? Lincoln Riley? At this point Rich Rod is a homerun for them based on the circumstances.

Yeah but he's not a $4.5M/yr homerun. Not coming off 6-6 and bringing the 3-3-5 to the SEC. South Carolina fans may not be crazy with their expectations and demands, but I honestly think they'd riot if that was where his contract ended up being at.

The 3-3-5 has been in the SEC before. Charlie Strong ran it AT South Carolina when he was DC. Joe Lee Dunn had success with it at Ole Miss under Billy Brewer and at Miss St under Jackie Sherrill.

Are we talking "come close to winning the SEC" success or "made a shit bowl a few times" success?

scumdevils86 wrote:femcat cares if you watch pornoz?

I think she cares what kind of porno, and she'd rather it not be left up on the tablet our kids use.

azpenguin wrote:The South Carolina boards are saying it's Muschamp even with the extra interviews being done.

I don't hold him talking to SC against him, considering he hasn't promised the fans or media that he's not going anywhere. He could be looking at a pay increase of 30-50% there, and pretty much any of us would entertain that. Lute talked to Kentucky. Tomey talked to Miami and Washington. Miller talked to Maryland. It happens.

RR to Auburn as DC.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:RR to Auburn as DC.

RR to ASU as the OC.

They couldn't get Gruden or Cowher so their fallback is Rich.

Chicat wrote:

scumdevils86 wrote:femcat cares if you watch pornoz?

I think she cares what kind of porno, and she'd rather it not be left up on the tablet our kids use.

fair enough. they gotta learn sometime though.

Chicat wrote:

Harvey Specter wrote:

Chicat wrote:

Harvey Specter wrote:

Irish27 wrote:Get Sonny Dykes on the phone.

So he can demand a raise in 3 years after winning 25% of his conference games? No thank you.

Any success whatsoever and he will punch his ticket as quickly as he can get out of town. That would be 3 schools in 5 years... The guy makes Graham look sedentary.

All coaches are mercenaries but he's at the extreme. His ambition casts a long shadow over his ability; the potential reward does not outweigh the risk.

You going to tell us who you would want?

I'd need a little bit of time, but off the top of my head I would rather see Matt Wells or Dino Babers get a shot. And that's not stretching with guys we MIGHT have a chance at, either.

How do either of those guys systems fit our current personnel?

That is honestly not a factor at all to me... It's not as if I see tremendous success in our immediate future if we bring in a coach with "the right scheme". I am more concerned about a guy who can recruit, develop and scheme to build a good team & program over time. If we suck in the immediate term everyone will chalk it up to "the cupboard being bare" anyways. It's standard fare...

I am not convinced that our existing personnel suits our current scheme especially well, anyway.

Chicat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:

chiefzona wrote:He's losing recruits. He has to make a decision quickly.

Can make a case he has already. Not to publicly knock down the report. That's a decision (so far) that he wants to pursue other job. If it was false or something he didn't want to check out, he could knock it down. I'm sure he knows about it. Staying quiet (as we know) is a decision.

Or he's made a decision to leverage Byrne for more OR he's made the decision to go through the process and have the decision made for him by not getting an offer etc. But this decision takes time to play out.

Lots of decisions to make in this process. So far, he seems to already made some...

This shit screams of Rich Rod's agent trying to leverage Byrne. Good luck with that.

Maybe it helps push the timeline on an indoor facility....maybe?

I honestly don't see this as a push for more money, mainly because there isn't significantly more being offered by South Carolina and there isn't much room in that regard at UA. So if it is a shakedown, it was poorly thought out and won't be very successful.

I think RR has a genuine interest in getting back to the east coast. Not only for personal reasons but also to alleviate many of the issues he's complained about as far as recruiting, long distance road trips, and stupid start times.

As far as Feldman's tweet, he worked with RR at CBS. So I would guess that's where the interview info came from.

So why did RR make SC an offer they could not accept? Was Scheer completely wrong on that one?

Harvey Specter wrote:
I am not convinced that our existing personnel suits our current scheme especially well, anyway.

Considering the cupboard is bare in talent in the LB corps and I can't name a single DL worth half a damn, I'd have to say I'd agree. That's not even touching on the back 5 of the defense. At least we have Nick Wilson...when healthy.

Chicat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:I think it's more of a shakedown in regards to speeding up the process on football facilities and not money honestly. Although do we actually know just how much SC would offer at this point? They're in pure desperation mode for sure and have more than enough money from SEC TV contracts alone to dwarf Arizona if need be. I mean look at the names associated with this search, Muschamp? Lincoln Riley? At this point Rich Rod is a homerun for them based on the circumstances.

Yeah but he's not a $4.5M/yr homerun. Not coming off 6-6 and bringing the 3-3-5 to the SEC. South Carolina fans may not be crazy with their expectations and demands, but I honestly think they'd riot if that was where his contract ended up being at.

I don't think fans really care how much their new coach is making... Only whether or not they are happy to have him. South Carolina is down to their "Plan C" list... and they all know it. And Rich Rod is a damn fine "Plan C".

When I thought we had whiffed on Calipari, Miller, and everyone else under the sun - I talked myself into being happy about the rumor that Tim Floyd would we be our next head coach - and I was not concerned about how much he was going to get paid

SCCats wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:RR to Auburn as DC.

RR to ASU as the OC.

They couldn't get Gruden or Cowher so their fallback is Rich.

Auburn wants to run the 3-3-5, so I wouldn't count them out.

Other than that, who knows?

Harvey Specter wrote:So why did RR make SC an offer they could not accept? Was Scheer completely wrong on that one?

I'm just spitballing, but it wouldn't be the first time someone threw out a crazy number in a negotiation that was then actually considered. RR obviously isn't so in love with Tucson that making significantly more money wouldn't sway him to look at a situation that has a lot of the things he's looking for in a job and that UA can't offer.

I always talk about how I could never work for our main competitor. Their product and office culture sucks. But if they wanted to double my current salary, let me work from home, give me six weeks vacation, and a company luxury car? Well hello there company I've always claimed to loathe... I'm your man!