Bear Down Wildcats

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:21 pm**

TheN the conference tourney which could be three games in three nights. Basically 13 games in 30 days or a game every other day. Not even the NBA does that. The PAC will wear down all its teams setting up a dismal run in the tournament. Well done conference

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:26 pm**

CTL needs to be very smart about this. Start giving Bal and Nowell a few minutes here and there so they can play like 10 minutes in our stretch run to give our guys a little break

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:28 pm**

Game thread up.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:29 pm**

97cats wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:17 pm
azgreg wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:10 pm 10 games in 23 days.
jesus what a crock of fucking bullshit its like an NBA schedule

The “student” part gets further and further away from the “athlete” part.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:34 pm**

Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:29 pm
The “student” part gets further and further away from the “athlete” part.

ya good point i lost sight of that myself because apparently everyone else has too, including the NCAA, conferences, and universities

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:37 pm**

Do we need to start a "F*ck George Kliavkoff" thread?

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:44 pm**

so i did the the calendar count from today cause ive pretty much done nothing at work except message board nonsense ....its 26 days until the 5th of March (at CAL final reg season game) and 31 days until AZ will play its first game in the Pac12 Tournament in Vegas.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:46 pm**

Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:26 pm CTL needs to be very smart about this. Start giving Bal and Nowell a few minutes here and there so they can play like 10 minutes in our stretch run to give our guys a little break

Those two should get heavy minutes vs bottom barrel teams like Or St, Utah and Cal. Starters shouldn't even play more than like 25 mins.

I don't want to see the starters play at all the final game vs Cal at home. Maybe only the first 10 mins or so.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:37 pm**

Yeah, gotta avoid tired legs injuries.

I remember when I was young and a swimmer and could just run like crazy forever and never get tired and not be sore the next day. It was great.

Hope they are in that kind of shape. Gonna be a tough stretch.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:45 pm**

U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:37 pm Yeah, gotta avoid tired legs injuries.

I remember when I was young and a swimmer and could just run like crazy forever and never get tired and not be sore the next day. It was great.

Hope they are in that kind of shape. Gonna be a tough stretch.

Hey, a fellow swimmer! My brother and I were on the Vandy swim team when we were 8 and 10 years old. Great sport. I sucked at everything but breaststroke. What was your event?

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:01 pm**

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:31 pm**

Dalen Terry is turning into an Alpha-Dog.... we are seeing an added element to this team develop late in this season....

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:44 pm**

Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:31 pm Dalen Terry is turning into an Alpha-Dog.... we are seeing an added element to this team develop late in this season....

Pelle Larsson is turning into an incredible player too. He's hitting side step 3s and 3s in motion, attacking the basket and playing incredible defense.

Both of these guys have been getting better and better and have shown the most improvement.

I think Terry is honestly the heart/engine of this team.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:00 pm**

Lloyd loves Larson - great start to a road trip that should yield two more wins

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:01 pm**

Lloyd's patience with Pelle is 100% paying off.

I love this roster from 1-8.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:02 pm**

Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:31 pm Dalen Terry is turning into an Alpha-Dog.... we are seeing an added element to this team develop late in this season....

yes but i could do less with the acting like he hasnt been there before. and, i think that goes for other guys too on this team.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:04 pm**

97cats wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:02 pm
Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:31 pm Dalen Terry is turning into an Alpha-Dog.... we are seeing an added element to this team develop late in this season....
yes but i could do less with the acting like he hasnt been there before. and, i think that goes for other guys too on this team.

No doubt... they are a little..... animated.....

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:09 pm**

They need to tone it down…a tad.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:09 pm**

more fun to actually fuck asu than to just say it. margin does not show the absolute ass kicking that was

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:20 pm**

Man you guys are a bunch of old fuddy duddies, let the kids have fun!

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:22 pm**

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:09 pm They need to tone it down…a tad.

It’s kinda nice to see some players treat the “rivalry” the way the fans do.

DT was a ball boy there, it seems like it matters to him.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:23 pm**

Terry being from Phx, I'm sure he it's more personal for him than most of the guys on the team. Heck, most of them are from another country so what do they care

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:24 pm**

Dalen Terry does forks down

And this

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:31 pm**

prh wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:09 pm more fun to actually fuck asu than to just say it. margin does not show the absolute ass kicking that was

Went on a 90-65 run after being down 14-1, I'd say that's an ass kicking.

Laughed hard at the too small / little brother response from AT. I think they were pissed at the bullshit foul by Boayke on Pelle, just a dirty play.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:33 pm**

They got bent over and forked on their home court.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:35 pm**

dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:45 pm
U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:37 pm Yeah, gotta avoid tired legs injuries.

I remember when I was young and a swimmer and could just run like crazy forever and never get tired and not be sore the next day. It was great.

Hope they are in that kind of shape. Gonna be a tough stretch.
Hey, a fellow swimmer! My brother and I were on the Vandy swim team when we were 8 and 10 years old. Great sport. I sucked at everything but breaststroke. What was your event?

I swam the 200 fly and 400 IM, it is a great sport.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:40 pm**

U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:35 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:45 pm
U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:37 pm Yeah, gotta avoid tired legs injuries.

I remember when I was young and a swimmer and could just run like crazy forever and never get tired and not be sore the next day. It was great.

Hope they are in that kind of shape. Gonna be a tough stretch.
Hey, a fellow swimmer! My brother and I were on the Vandy swim team when we were 8 and 10 years old. Great sport. I sucked at everything but breaststroke. What was your event?
I swam the 200 fly and 400 IM, it is a great sport.

If you could swim the fly you're in the 1%. My only claim to fame was winning a medal at state. Holy shit, it must have been in the 16th century.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:41 pm**

Seeing when the USC game is scheduled I would either- 1. Play the subs against USC and give the rotation a break, making it a meaningless game for both teams, or 2. Play the entire team during the quarterfinals of the Pac-12 tourney, not trying to win so the team can get some rest before the bigger tourney.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:55 pm**

Catintheheat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:41 pm Seeing when the USC game is scheduled I would either- 1. Play the subs against USC and give the rotation a break, making it a meaningless game for both teams, or 2. Play the entire team during the quarterfinals of the Pac-12 tourney, not trying to win so the team can get some rest before the bigger tourney.

Utah/Colorado trip is before USC. NorCal teams are after USC. Lloyd should honestly play the bench as much as possible against Utah and Cal who are absolutely dreadful. Go all out @ USC, try to put away Colorado on the road and Stanford at home early to get some more rest.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 pm**

The Utah-Colorado trip is always tough physically no matter how good those teams are. Having to turn around and face USC just sucks.

We can easily be 1-2 after that trip to be honest as we have the biggest bullseye on us right now.

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:18 pm**

i just see WSU & UW

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:19 pm**

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:55 pm
Catintheheat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:41 pm Seeing when the USC game is scheduled I would either- 1. Play the subs against USC and give the rotation a break, making it a meaningless game for both teams, or 2. Play the entire team during the quarterfinals of the Pac-12 tourney, not trying to win so the team can get some rest before the bigger tourney.
Utah/Colorado trip is before USC. NorCal teams are after USC. Lloyd should honestly play the bench as much as possible against Utah and Cal who are absolutely dreadful. Go all out @ USC, try to put away Colorado on the road and Stanford at home early to get some more rest.

Who is the 9th man to rotate? Bal? We could really use Aiken Jr, I assume he is not playing because he may be eligible to transfer again? My theory is that he is upset that Ballo subsumed his role as the main bench big

Posted: **Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:43 pm**

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 pm The Utah-Colorado trip is always tough physically no matter how good those teams are. Having to turn around and face USC just sucks.

We can easily be 1-2 after that trip to be honest as we have the biggest bullseye on us right now.

This reschedule is straight garbage for Arizona. Flying to Utah and Colorado to play at altitude and then having to head to LA to play a tough USC team is going to be a real task mentally and physically. Hopefully we learned from these last couple of quick turnaround sets of games.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:46 am**

I’ve been waiting for the tech on Dalen for about 4-5 games now. It happened. Not a huge deal in this game but he needs to watch himself.

Love the passion, but it’s the plays not the talk that matter.

Tubelis with the Timme “small” move is weak too. Just dominate and never give them an edge.

I’m much more ok with it against shit programs like asu, but don’t carry that away from their dump of an arena.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:56 am**

YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:43 pm
EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 pm The Utah-Colorado trip is always tough physically no matter how good those teams are. Having to turn around and face USC just sucks.

We can easily be 1-2 after that trip to be honest as we have the biggest bullseye on us right now.
This reschedule is straight garbage for Arizona. Flying to Utah and Colorado to play at altitude and then having to head to LA to play a tough USC team is going to be a real task mentally and physically. Hopefully we learned from these last couple of quick turnaround sets of games.

I'm already chalking up the USC game as a loss, it's just too easily set up that way. If they somehow pull out a win then we're winning the whole god damn thing.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:07 am**

That asu beat down somehow dropped us in Kenpom from #2 to #3 and the adjusted defense from #5 to #8. Offense however went from #13 to #11.

I'm guessing that late garbage points under 5 minutes (probably also the first 5 minutes) hurt us ultimately there

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:10 am**

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:07 am That asu beat down somehow dropped us in Kenpom from #2 to #3 and the adjusted defense from #5 to #8. Offense however went from #13 to #11.

I'm guessing that late garbage points under 5 minutes (probably also the first 5 minutes) hurt us ultimately there

ASU having its best shooting game from 3 also contributed to that.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:11 am**

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:07 am That asu beat down somehow dropped us in Kenpom from #2 to #3 and the adjusted defense from #5 to #8. Offense however went from #13 to #11.

I'm guessing that late garbage points under 5 minutes (probably also the first 5 minutes) hurt us ultimately there

You can’t give up nearly 80 points and not have it adversely affect your defensive metrics.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:18 am**

But didn't I see or hear that almost all of the last 20 or so national champions had adjusted offense & defense below 20?

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:20 am**

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:18 am But didn't I see or hear that almost all of the last 20 or so national champions had adjusted offense & defense below 20?

I thought is was above, except UConn.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:25 am**

97cats wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:18 pm i just see WSU & UW

Wazzu is a Quad 1 game, so yes all focus needs to be there and then of course to the fighting Terrell Browns afterwards.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:27 am**

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:18 am But didn't I see or hear that almost all of the last 20 or so national champions had adjusted offense & defense below 20?

Yes, as long as you're top 20 in both metrics you're basically a serious national championship contender unless you're UCONN, whom collected all the infinity stones, and metrics didn't matter any more.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:28 am**

Stop saying UCONN please. It bothers me living here in CT...

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:38 am**

There was maybe 28 mins of good defense last night. The other 12 was hot shit that would kill most teams on the road.

The jizzfest from the arc by asu was something to see, and when it crusted over and died, it was interesting to see as well.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:59 am**

ASSU hit 13 3's. A few of them were step back's with a hand in their face.

Other things I liked:

- We had 6 players in double figures. Nice distribution of the rock.
- Ballo and Pelle off the bench were aweseome. Ballo with 13/10/1 block. Pelle with 14 points, 2 reb/2asst/2 stls
- Outrebounded the scummies 48-26. We controlled the boards.

20 TO's is still too many. It's been a trend so need to cut down on that somehow.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:01 am**

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:11 am
RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:07 am That asu beat down somehow dropped us in Kenpom from #2 to #3 and the adjusted defense from #5 to #8. Offense however went from #13 to #11.

I'm guessing that late garbage points under 5 minutes (probably also the first 5 minutes) hurt us ultimately there
You can’t give up nearly 80 points and not have it adversely affect your defensive metrics.

I would add "to a team that's a complete dumpster fire." Kenpom factors in opponent strength and ASU is not strong.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:04 am**

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:59 am 20 TO's is still too many. It's been a trend so need to cut down on that somehow.

This is the stat that most persistently worries me. We benefit a ton when TO's are under control, but they're just stubbornly high.

Against ASU it doesn't matter, but against a good team like UCLA, it compounds shots missing. So when we shoot poorly, we don't break 60.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:21 am**

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:25 am
97cats wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:18 pm i just see WSU & UW
Wazzu is a Quad 1 game, so yes all focus needs to be there and then of course to the fighting Terrell Browns afterwards.

Our Wyoming win is now a quad 1 win as well.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:27 am**

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:21 am
ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:25 am
97cats wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:18 pm i just see WSU & UW
Wazzu is a Quad 1 game, so yes all focus needs to be there and then of course to the fighting Terrell Browns afterwards.
Our Wyoming win is now a quad 1 win as well.

I believe they are on top of the mountain west.

And that Illinois road win looks better and better every day.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:32 am**

Illinois choked last time vs Purdue at home, they play them again tonight for the big ten conference championship essentially. If they lose to Purdue again, they're done even if they end up with the same amount of losses

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