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Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:27 pm**

dirtbags wrote:right - we're in agreement around the potential consequences of such a decision. i was putting a fine point on "the player has to consent". sitting a player out isn't about Miller obtaining the kid's consent; it's whether he's prepared to deal with the backlash from the kid's parents, its effect on the team's culture & chemistry, what it means for recruiting, and so on.

No, I know. I figured that was why you said technically.

You start forcibly redshirting kids and say goodbye to them and hello to it being used against you in recruiting.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:32 pm**

Zeus, Dusan
Anderson, Comanche
Smith
York, Trier, Pitts, Allen
PCJ, Simon

If Stanley comes back, add him and we have 12. If we land the SF grad transfer, 13. I think it takes both of those to happen for Comanche to redshirt.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:26 pm**

Tarc's return dramatically changes the outlook for next year's team. We're solidly in the top 15, maybe top 10. And if SJ returns too (which I doubt), we're top 5.

Love this lineup:

Gabe
PJC
Smith
Anderson
Tarc

I also wonder if Sean will try to put Tarc and Ristic on the floor at the same time against bigger teams.

We can go big or small. Love it!

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:41 am**

Interesting to see which of Trier or Smith starts.

I like this depth chart:
PJC, Simon
York, Trier, Pitts
Johnson, Smith
Anderson, Rabb
Tarc, Ristic, Comanche

EDIT: And welcome back, Zeus! This is very, very good for us.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:39 am**

Where's Allen?

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:17 am**

Library, I hope

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:47 am**

Chad Ford's take:

Kaleb Tarczewski, C, Jr., Arizona
Tarczewski has always looked the part of an NBA center. Blessed with size and good athleticism, he has the physical tools to be a very good NBA big man. But his production in three years at Arizona has been lacking and had he declared, he likely would've been a late first-rounder. If he has a strong senior year, look for him to play his way higher.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft201 ... draft-list

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:07 am**

Coop Cat wrote:Chad Ford's take:

Kaleb Tarczewski, C, Jr., Arizona
Tarczewski has always looked the part of an NBA center. Blessed with size and good athleticism, he has the physical tools to be a very good NBA big man. But his production in three years at Arizona has been lacking and had he declared, he likely would've been a late first-rounder. If he has a strong senior year, look for him to play his way higher.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft201 ... draft-list

Huh. Late first is significantly more optimistic than most mocks.

Posted: **Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:52 am**

3goggles wrote:Where's Allen?

He's going to be a big player for us next year. Having 3 shooters on the wing will eliminate teams ability to shut us down via a zone. Our major weakness this year IMO

Posted: **Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:02 am**

Dont think Allen is really a shooter

Posted: **Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:56 am**

rgdeuce wrote:Dont think Allen is really a shooter

True, he is more of a scorer like Mark Lyons. Allen is a 30.5% 3 PT shooter against JC competition.

Posted: **Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:48 pm**

Tarc projected to go in the late 1st round is news to me. Everywhere said he'd get drafted late 2nd round or possibly not at all. Don't think Tarc would have stayed if he was gonna be a late first round pick.

Posted: **Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:57 pm**

Chad Ford and Joe Lunardi have mastered the art of masquerading bullshit opinion as fact.

There's better analysis on this board.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:53 pm**

Sorry if posted elsewhere, but do we know definitively that Tarc is coming back?

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:54 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote:Sorry if posted elsewhere, but do we know definitively that Tarc is coming back?

No

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:59 pm**

Chicat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Sorry if posted elsewhere, but do we know definitively that Tarc is coming back?
No

I had thought it was sure he was coming back until I read that Stanley/Kaleb article yesterday.

We need the big man back.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:07 pm**

He has fallen off the draft chart: http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2015/

I think he was up to #57 which gave him only a 10% chance of making a team.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:28 pm**

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:32 pm**

Jacob Hazzard?

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:38 pm**

Max Wiepking?

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:40 pm**

Max Power?

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:10 pm**

"Max FGA per Minute" Hazzard.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:37 pm**

UAEebs86 wrote:

Did he drop any?

I kid. I joke. I hope he returns.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:58 pm**

We need Zeus. Could be the difference between winning a third straight Pac title and finishing lower.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:04 pm**

Holy cow, I thought Zeus coming back was a done deal a week ago. Now its not?

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:44 pm**

Gladiator Cat wrote:Holy cow, I thought Zeus coming back was a done deal a week ago. Now its not?

It's not not a done deal either.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:12 pm**

Chicat wrote:
Gladiator Cat wrote:Holy cow, I thought Zeus coming back was a done deal a week ago. Now its not?
It's not not a done deal either.

When is the deadline to declare for the draft? Anyone know?

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:14 pm**

UAEebs86 wrote:

I'm glad we have Hansen to keep us updated

.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:16 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Gladiator Cat wrote:Holy cow, I thought Zeus coming back was a done deal a week ago. Now its not?
It's not not a done deal either.
When is the deadline to declare for the draft? Anyone know?

April 26th

Posted: **Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:17 pm**

4/26 parties!

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:37 am**

Alright, Tarc. You're on the clock.

(Please come back)

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:20 am**

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:23 am**

#12-15

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:24 am**

Maybe the sky is not falling.

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:27 am**

BMalo wrote:#12-15

And still the Pac 12 favorite

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:31 am**

Thank you Zeus.

Special place in my fandom for stud cats who finish up as upper classmen.

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:36 am**

Zeus has a chance to be the winningest player in program history. Let that sink in for a second.

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:43 am**

Thumbs up

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:46 am**

Good to have you back Zeus!!!

Olsondogg wrote:Zeus has a chance to be the winningest player in program history. Let that sink in for a second.

It's amazing. And he's going to surpass the record by quite a bit.

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:52 am**

BMalo wrote:#12-15

Where's the heroin!!!!!!

Welcome back, Zeus! Here's to a godly year. Ungodly works, too.

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:04 am**

SCCats wrote:Good to have you back Zeus!!!

Olsondogg wrote:Zeus has a chance to be the winningest player in program history. Let that sink in for a second.
It's amazing. And he's going to surpass the record by quite a bit.

And still, some "fans" will crap on Miller for not reaching the Final Four, despite likely producing a 4 year run Lute never did.

Welcome back, Zeus!

Mase - Welcome Back (Official Music Video): http://youtu.be/adg6iEz3-Ow

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:23 am**

He's the anchor we need next year. Glad you're coming back Kaleb!

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:24 am**

Olsondogg wrote:Zeus has a chance to be the winningest player in program history. Let that sink in for a second.

That is pretty amazing. His return helps our prospects for next year tremendously.

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:43 am**

Very Excited for Zeus.

I expect a special senior season from him.

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:05 am**

Remember when Lute's team had that stat, that for 16+years or whatever it was, if you came in and stayed till you were a senior, you were basically guaranteed to play in the Final Four? Let's have Tarc be the Senior who gets that started again.

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:06 pm**

Wow, I had no idea he'll become the winningest player in program history. Really shows what an amazing a job Miller has done.

So excited for Zeus' final year.

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:27 pm**

AZCatGirl wrote:Wow, I had no idea he'll become the winningest player in program history. Really shows what an amazing a job Miller has done.

So excited for Zeus' final year.

That is true, however, not to diminish anything Miller has done, when Lute won the NC in 97 the Cats only played 34 games. The last two Miller Elite 8 teams both finished with 38 games played.

Well done CSM in any event.

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:53 pm**

CalStateTempe wrote:Thank you Zeus.

Special place in my fandom for stud cats who finish up as upper classmen.

Hell yeah CST, +1,000,000.......ESPECIALLY in this day and age......frickin' love Zeus more than ever......BTFD Zeus and dominate next year!

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:56 pm**

kap'n kaleb!

Posted: **Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:10 pm**

Glad to have him back.

York should have the same number of wins as zeus though, no? Same class.

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