Re: lets talk '16
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:41 am
Beachcat97 wrote:Sorta feel like he's gonna pick Shaka.
I feel for youBeachcat97 wrote:Sorta feel like he's gonna pick Shaka.
Any chance, 97?HiCat wrote:Bruce Pascoe Arizona Daily Star
Texas guard De'Aaron Fox schedules a UA visit.
http://tucson.com/sports/college/wildcats/
Figured. If 97 hasn't even mentioned his name, it's not really worth following.HiCat wrote:August 14th
De'Aaron Fox Cypress Lakes
De'Aaron Fox Where will De'Aaron Fox commit to?
Kentucky 33%
Kansas 6%
All Crystal Ball Predictions
http://www.aseaofblue.com/2015/8/14/915 ... dcats-list
At this point in what has been a very disheartening (bungled?) recruiting year, we should be very happy to at least get Lauri and Lightfoot.ChooChooCat wrote:Josh Jackson and Lauri Markkanen or bust.
Well really just Josh Jackson or bust, but Lauri would be some fantastic icing.
That's a failure of a class. Jackson or bust.az91 wrote:At this point in what has been a very disheartening (bungled?) recruiting year, we should be very happy to at least get Lauri and Lightfoot.ChooChooCat wrote:Josh Jackson and Lauri Markkanen or bust.
Well really just Josh Jackson or bust, but Lauri would be some fantastic icing.
I don't think it's Jackson or bust, but it would be a tough time to have a bad recruiting year with other programs doing very well with their '16 classes.ChooChooCat wrote:That's a failure of a class. Jackson or bust.az91 wrote:At this point in what has been a very disheartening (bungled?) recruiting year, we should be very happy to at least get Lauri and Lightfoot.ChooChooCat wrote:Josh Jackson and Lauri Markkanen or bust.
Well really just Josh Jackson or bust, but Lauri would be some fantastic icing.
Yes, when the success of your whole recruiting year hinges on one player's decision, it is a failure. The following three factors have put us into this situation:ChooChooCat wrote:That's a failure of a class. Jackson or bust.az91 wrote:At this point in what has been a very disheartening (bungled?) recruiting year, we should be very happy to at least get Lauri and Lightfoot.ChooChooCat wrote:Josh Jackson and Lauri Markkanen or bust.
Well really just Josh Jackson or bust, but Lauri would be some fantastic icing.
When you've been leading for an elite player from the get go and do not land him, yes it's an absolute failure.Beachcat97 wrote:I don't think it's Jackson or bust, but it would be a tough time to have a bad recruiting year with other programs doing very well with their '16 classes.ChooChooCat wrote:That's a failure of a class. Jackson or bust.az91 wrote:At this point in what has been a very disheartening (bungled?) recruiting year, we should be very happy to at least get Lauri and Lightfoot.ChooChooCat wrote:Josh Jackson and Lauri Markkanen or bust.
Well really just Josh Jackson or bust, but Lauri would be some fantastic icing.
Man so many dead on points here. You nailed it all.az91 wrote:Yes, when the success of your whole recruiting year hinges on one player's decision, it is a failure. The following three factors have put us into this situation:ChooChooCat wrote:That's a failure of a class. Jackson or bust.az91 wrote:At this point in what has been a very disheartening (bungled?) recruiting year, we should be very happy to at least get Lauri and Lightfoot.ChooChooCat wrote:Josh Jackson and Lauri Markkanen or bust.
Well really just Josh Jackson or bust, but Lauri would be some fantastic icing.
1. The collapse of the California talent pipeline due to a combination of the rift with the Compton Magic, the influence of Adidas, and Alford's and Martin's recruiting
2. The coaching turnover that started with the surprising departure of Damon and the head-scratching, underwhelming decision to replace him with an obscurity from the Midwest
3. The lack of any benefit from Miller coaching the U-19 and the possibility it may have even alienated the previously committed Leaf (of course, if Jackson does sign here, the U-19 will have resulted in something positive)
He wasn't fired, he just finished grad school, so he could no longer be a grad assistant. The players did like him, but it's not really a head scratcher to me. I don't think the guy ever had aspirations of becoming a coach or anything and from what I understand a grad assistant's role is very limited.Merkin wrote:Just wanted to add Joe Blair getting fired without explanation to the list of head scratchers. Not a recruiter since he was only a grad assistant, but the players liked him.
ChooChooCat wrote:He wasn't fired, he just finished grad school, so he could no longer be a grad assistant. The players did like him, but it's not really a head scratcher to me. I don't think the guy ever had aspirations of becoming a coach or anything and from what I understand a grad assistant's role is very limited.Merkin wrote:Just wanted to add Joe Blair getting fired without explanation to the list of head scratchers. Not a recruiter since he was only a grad assistant, but the players liked him.
He ran out of eligibility to remain a grad assistant and Miller had no reason to let go of anybody else on his staff. Really much to do about nothing here.Merkin wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:He wasn't fired, he just finished grad school, so he could no longer be a grad assistant. The players did like him, but it's not really a head scratcher to me. I don't think the guy ever had aspirations of becoming a coach or anything and from what I understand a grad assistant's role is very limited.Merkin wrote:Just wanted to add Joe Blair getting fired without explanation to the list of head scratchers. Not a recruiter since he was only a grad assistant, but the players liked him.
I agree that coaching really isn't in his future, his charity is and he doesn't have enough time for both, but just recall this quote:
Blair said via email today that he was not offered a position with the Wildcats for next season.
"I would love to continue coaching but until that situation presents itself, I will be advocating for the community as I always have," wrote Blair, who is vacationing out of the country.
I'm not sure, but York has been mentioned. It is puzzling though, since it is not like York has been stuck on the bench his entire time here and he will be a big factor next year.CalStateTempe wrote:Who poisoned the well with the Compton Magic? York?
Love Gabe. He's going to be huge for us this year.az91 wrote:I'm not sure, but York has been mentioned. It is puzzling though, since it is not like York has been stuck on the bench his entire time here and he will be a big factor next year.CalStateTempe wrote:Who poisoned the well with the Compton Magic? York?
When it comes to recruiting? This year.Puerco wrote:UCLA has resurged? When did that happen?
Has their recruiting ever really fallen off, though? Lots of 4 and 5 star guys on that roster every year.Chicat wrote:When it comes to recruiting? This year.Puerco wrote:UCLA has resurged? When did that happen?
On the west coast, yes, it fell off for a good period there.Beachcat97 wrote:
Has their recruiting ever really fallen off, though?
Norman Powell, Zach Lavine, Aaron Holiday, Welsh, Hamilton, the Wears...I'm probably forgetting a few. Not really seeing that drop off on the west coast.ChooChooCat wrote:On the west coast, yes, it fell off for a good period there.Beachcat97 wrote:
Has their recruiting ever really fallen off, though?
Go ahead and point out the 5 star talents in that group that Arizona also recruited. Also the Wears were in high school so long ago that Lute Olson was still our coach their season year, so that was a major stretch on your part. Look at Arizona's west coast recruiting the past few years and UCLA's. They're now landing all the west coast guys we want, so yes they fell off for a bit by their standards just like we are by our standards now.Beachcat97 wrote:Norman Powell, Zach Lavine, Aaron Holiday, Welsh, Hamilton, the Wears...I'm probably forgetting a few. Not really seeing that drop off on the west coast.ChooChooCat wrote:On the west coast, yes, it fell off for a good period there.Beachcat97 wrote:
Has their recruiting ever really fallen off, though?
What PF will we have on the roster next season? I count zero.A1RZONA wrote:honestly, i am less concerned about next year then most. considering we dont have a clear one and done in this years class, we should be fine next year at almost every position. Only concerns i do have are at the center position. add in lauri (PF/C) and we could be fine. obviously want josh as much as the next guy but all hope is not lost if we dont get him.
Lauri definitely the top option at the 4, but if we land Jackson then we'd have both Smith and him to back up the position.Harvey Specter wrote:What PF will we have on the roster next season? I count zero.A1RZONA wrote:honestly, i am less concerned about next year then most. considering we dont have a clear one and done in this years class, we should be fine next year at almost every position. Only concerns i do have are at the center position. add in lauri (PF/C) and we could be fine. obviously want josh as much as the next guy but all hope is not lost if we dont get him.
Our desperate needs for next season extend beyond JJ; in addition to a wing, we need a PF, probably 2. A CG would be nice, but is a luxury we would be fine without.
JJ, an impact 4, and Lightfoot would not match recent classes on paper - but it would address team needs and position us well for next season.
They hang banners for that, right?Chicat wrote:When it comes to recruiting? This year.Puerco wrote:UCLA has resurged? When did that happen?
I've never known a team with shitty third tier players to hang a banner earned on the court.Puerco wrote:They hang banners for that, right?Chicat wrote:When it comes to recruiting? This year.Puerco wrote:UCLA has resurged? When did that happen?
Here's hoping the remaining 32 all commit to AZ.Merkin wrote:
Shh... The OKG guys might hear you and get a little upset.Chicat wrote:I've never known a team with shitty third tier players to hang a banner earned on the court.Puerco wrote:They hang banners for that, right?Chicat wrote:When it comes to recruiting? This year.Puerco wrote:UCLA has resurged? When did that happen?