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Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:20 pm
by Newportcat
Beachcat97 wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:I am just about sooooo over college basketball.
Maybe it's a good time to pose this question, then: what is it that sustains your interest/enthusiasm in AZ hoops?

Aside from just rooting for your alma mater's premier athletics program, is there something more? A love of the sport? Nostalgia for Lute Olson?

I'll admit, my enthusiasm has waned. This past season, I watched fewer games than ever. With all due respect to our guys, the Justin Coleman Era just didn't do it for me. And even going back to the previous season, with Ayton dunking and Trier slashing, it still felt off. Those TJ/Nick Johnson teams have so far been the highpoint of the Miller era, and I've been waiting to see if we can get back there.

As a native of Detroit, which is among the worst sports cities in America during my lifetime, UofA has been my only team to consistently feel good about. And while I've repeatedly been patient with our football program, they just disappoint again and again and again. Only hoops has given us a reason to be excited from year to year.

So contrary to CST, I am far from being "over college basketball." I want to see Miller get a FF and see his haters forced to sing his praises. If the Miller Era is indeed nearing its end, I just hope it happens on our schedule, not the fucking media's. If this season comes to pass without a FF and with unmet expectations, maybe both parties (Miller and the school) decide to part ways amicably. I'd be good with that. The program can recover, and Miller will find another job. But I do hope that his first FF happens at AZ. It would be a really tough pill to see him climb that ladder and cut down the nets as coach of a different school, especially if we're closing in on a quarter century without a FF.
For me my love of Arizona Basketball starts at McKale. It is a magical place to watch a game. Anytime I get the chance to go back I step in and am immediately back in college and takes me to an awesome placeZ. But candidly there does not seem to be any of these big games driving me to go back. I remember watching Kansas and UConn play there. Remember storming the court my freshmen year against Stanford. Remember literally the riot in front of mckale for student season tickets my senior year in 2002. We went to Tucson for my bachelor party in 2010 to the Kyle fogg usc free throw game. So awesome

If I lived in Tucson I would still have tickets but the last game I went to mckale three years ago, Magic was gone a bit. It was weird

I can’t truly explain it but something feels so different now to me about college basketball.

I am excited for next year but what happens in 2020/2021?

Sorry for the ramble as done it a couple times before on college basketball. Just sad about where things are and going even outside of all this FBI shit

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:20 pm
by Irish27
Does this surprise anyone? Here is a picture from Zagoria's Facebook page.
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Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:34 pm
by IrishAzCat
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Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 8:05 am
by 97cats
lol

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:57 am
by azgreg

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:58 am
by ChooChooCat
azgreg wrote:
Stupid fucking idiots.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:59 am
by Spaceman Spiff
azgreg wrote:
I guess "everybody does it" isn't the best defense.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:06 pm
by NYCat
Dawkins could've plead guilty and saved time but they were trying to cause damage. I wouldn't be surprised if Dawkins and his defense start leaking taped/wiretaps that weren't played during trial.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:08 pm
by YoDeFoe
NYCat wrote:Dawkins could've plead guilty and saved time but they were trying to cause damage. I wouldn't be surprised if Dawkins and his defense start leaking taped/wiretaps that weren't played during trial.
I'm not sure that Dawkins wants to commit another felony.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:13 pm
by PHXCATS
NYCat wrote:Dawkins could've plead guilty and saved time but they were trying to cause damage. I wouldn't be surprised if Dawkins and his defense start leaking taped/wiretaps that weren't played during trial.
Pretty sure that is against the law and if he were to do so he would have done it when he leaked the Will Wade tape. Dawkins and Haney shot their best shots and there were total duds

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:26 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
NYCat wrote:Dawkins could've plead guilty and saved time but they were trying to cause damage. I wouldn't be surprised if Dawkins and his defense start leaking taped/wiretaps that weren't played during trial.
Other than sour grapes, no reason for that. Pretrial leaks could influence a jury pool. Now...that time has passed.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 3:30 pm
by TyAbbottGotOwned
so.. now what?

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 3:36 pm
by Gilbertcat
Dawkins says ESPN reported conversation did not take place
"I wasn’t there," Dawkins said. "I just got out of criminal court case for the last two months. I had no involvement with Deandre Ayton, that’s a fact. So the whole (February 2018) ESPN report (that said Dawkins and Miller discussed paying Ayton), that’s something I couldn’t say is accurate because I never had conversations about delivering Deandre Ayton to Arizona for Sean Miller. Didn't happen."
https://247sports.com/college/arizona/A ... 131884280/" target="_blank

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 3:37 pm
by CalStateTempe
Wow thanks dickhole

Thanks espn

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 3:41 pm
by NYCat
:lol:

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 3:49 pm
by CalStateTempe
All that shit for truly nothing....

Fuck it all

Fuck college bb.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 3:51 pm
by Ned Zissou
Gilbertcat wrote:Dawkins says ESPN reported conversation did not take place
"I wasn’t there," Dawkins said. "I just got out of criminal court case for the last two months. I had no involvement with Deandre Ayton, that’s a fact. So the whole (February 2018) ESPN report (that said Dawkins and Miller discussed paying Ayton), that’s something I couldn’t say is accurate because I never had conversations about delivering Deandre Ayton to Arizona for Sean Miller. Didn't happen."
https://247sports.com/college/arizona/A ... 131884280/" target="_blank
Is this real? I find it shockingly great quote from Dawkins, but temper my enjoyment because there not 400 responses to this story from AZ fans telling us how ESPN and Vitale have blocked them for trying to get them to respond to this new info. I will wait to gloat.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 3:54 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Gilbertcat wrote:Dawkins says ESPN reported conversation did not take place
"I wasn’t there," Dawkins said. "I just got out of criminal court case for the last two months. I had no involvement with Deandre Ayton, that’s a fact. So the whole (February 2018) ESPN report (that said Dawkins and Miller discussed paying Ayton), that’s something I couldn’t say is accurate because I never had conversations about delivering Deandre Ayton to Arizona for Sean Miller. Didn't happen."
https://247sports.com/college/arizona/A ... 131884280/" target="_blank
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Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:00 pm
by NYCat
BTW this quote is from the Daily Star, reported by Adam Zagoria (!) For the Star

https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildca ... 7356b.html" target="_blank

Here's more quotes
On Friday, a defense attorney asked Dawkins twice on the witness stand whether Miller knew that Arizona players were being paid. In both cases, the government objected before Dawkins could answer; judge Edgardo Ramos sustained the objections.

Dawkins was asked Wednesday what he would have said had he been able to answer the question.

“I’m not going to answer that," he said. "Because this is the thing, I don’t see nothing wrong with it so I’m not gonna throw nobody under the bus for something that I agree with.

“I’m not going to put (Miller) in a position that could hurt him. It’s just too sensitive for me. I don’t care that much. I don’t want him to lose his job.”
Asked if the payments actually took place, Dawkins said: "I wasn’t there. I just got out of criminal court case for the last two months. I had no involvement with Deandre Ayton, that’s a fact. So the whole (February 2018) ESPN report (that said Dawkins and Miller discussed paying Ayton), that’s something I couldn’t say is accurate because I never had conversations about delivering Deandre Ayton to Arizona for Sean Miller. Didn't happen."
As for the wiretapped conversation between he and Richardson, "look at the transcripts," Dawkins said.

“Book is saying, ‘Sean gave Ayton X,Y,Z.’ I’m just listening,” he said.
Crazy that Zags didn't tweet any of this out

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:01 pm
by gronk4heisman
I have a feeling this will not be newsworthy enough for ESPN.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:03 pm
by NYCat
So did Dawkins' lawyer (Haney) leak this to ESPN/Schlabach or was Haney only leaking to the Yahoo! and other guys (for jury reasons)?

:?: :?: :?:

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:05 pm
by ChooChooCat
CalStateTempe wrote:All that shit for truly nothing....

Fuck it all

Fuck college bb.
Welp now we just have to wait for Book to set the record straight about his wiretap. Please Book, please.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:05 pm
by Gilbertcat
Cant expect Zagoria to lead with that statement but at least it managed to come out. I think UA should issue a statement about how they are committed to Miller despite the report that sent the program into a down-spiral.

I really think a simple statement from Ayton would make some noise. It would at least get covered in the phoenix area.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:07 pm
by NYCat
Is Book expected to speak during his sentencing?

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:08 pm
by ChooChooCat
NYCat wrote:Is Book expected to speak during his sentencing?
I believe he will. Have no idea what he will say though.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:10 pm
by Longhorned
We're waiting, Schlabach.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:26 pm
by KillerKlown
Miller is indeed a witch. :lol:

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:28 pm
by CalStateTempe
Gotta wonder what millers doing right now?

I hope it’s plotting...

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:36 pm
by prh
With this and 97's post, specifically the "well, Seth - we will see," I'm starting to feel something building about this year

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:45 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Everywhere you look today, the fabric of reality is just a rag.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:49 pm
by YoDeFoe
Unfucking believable. A whole year plus of bullshit just blown right the fuck out of the window.

I mean... I guess thanks for that parting piece of help, Dawkins. I'll toss a twenty in your commissary.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:49 pm
by CalStateTempe
I want to run a train on everyone we play next year.

Just curb stomp them.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:51 pm
by YoDeFoe
Zagoria dumps the quote a dozen paragraphs deep. COOOOOOOOOOL

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:56 pm
by CalStateTempe
When’s schlemachy gonna get shit canned?

I hope Arizona nation lights up him twitter

I am so fucking pissed over the past 1 year right now.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 5:07 pm
by Gilbertcat

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 5:14 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Gilbertcat wrote:
The not good quote for Miller is Dawkins's everybody gets paid so I don't throw stones quote. This is about as goodas it could ever get for Milller.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 5:37 pm
by Longhorned
No tweets from Dicky V either.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 5:57 pm
by splitsecond
CalStateTempe wrote:When’s schlemachy gonna get shit canned?

I hope Arizona nation lights up him twitter

I am so fucking pissed over the past 1 year right now.
Hope these phoenix radio fucks eat their damn crow tomorrow.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 5:57 pm
by phxcat23
Was listening to Jody Oehler on my drive home. He said it best that there was a lot of smoke over the years with college bb, and that if you went looking for the smoke, you’d find a lot of it but people just disregarded it. However, with everything that’s transpired, everyone wanted there to be a fire and went looking for where the most smoke was, and unfortunately it was Arizona that everyone wanted to go after.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:07 pm
by CalStateTempe
What station is Jodi on? I tried finding it on my phone but had no such luck.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:14 pm
by azgreg
CalStateTempe wrote:What station is Jodi on? I tried finding it on my phone but had no such luck.
https://www.iheart.com/live/fox-sports- ... 2Fabout%2F" target="_blank

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:16 pm
by Chicat

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:17 pm
by NYCat
It's unbelievable. This report crushed Arizona more than the trial itself or FBI scandal itself or Book's arrest or Book's guilty plea. The damage from that report also set the narrative and put it out on the open and we saw what happened as 97 said in his thread. Because of said report now there's a "where there's smoke there's fire" narrative (probably deservedly so, again see 97s thread) around the whole program.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:20 pm
by ASUHATER!
I doubt ESPN says much about this news.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:22 pm
by UAEebs86
Fuck ESPN


Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:30 pm
by Chicat
ESPN is just going to keep talking about “the allegations” as if they themselves didn’t make them up out of NOTHING and I’m going to seriously contemplate burning Bristol, Connecticut to the motherfucking ground.

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:36 pm
by UAEebs86
Oh and Fuck Columbo too


Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:00 pm
by NYCat
FBI wiretaps intercepted telephone conversations between Arizona coach Sean Miller and Christian Dawkins, a key figure in the FBI's investigation into college basketball corruption, in which Miller discussed paying $100,000 to ensure star freshman Deandre Ayton signed with the Wildcats, sources familiar with the government's evidence told ESPN.

According to people with knowledge of the FBI investigation,
Miller and Dawkins, a runner working for ASM Sports agent Andy Miller, had multiple conversations about Ayton. When Dawkins asked Sean Miller if he should work with assistant coach Emanuel "Book" Richardson to finalize their agreement, Miller told Dawkins he should deal directly with him when it came to money, the sources said.

The telephone calls between Sean Miller and Dawkins were among 3,000 hours of conversations intercepted from Dawkins' phone by the FBI.
Who's the source

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:02 pm
by UAEebs86
Did I mention Fuck The Daily Star?

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:13 pm
by PHXCATS
Steve Haney will be on the radio tomorrow morning

This station has a text line where you can text in before during or after the interview. Should be interesting especially since Monty has been a huge turd during this process and believed every word from Haney so far.