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NEW YORK – The most absurd moment of a most absurd day at the federal fraud case featuring one of college basketball’s most absurd characters had to be the following … well, actually, there are many contenders.

Maybe it was when Billy Preston wrecked his Dodge Charger on the campus of the University of Kansas. The fact a top incoming basketball recruit was driving such a car caused concern with the KU compliance office, which investigated who owned the vehicle.

Text messages later revealed Preston’s mother Nicole Player bragging about buying the car for her son, but, for whatever reason (and you can probably guess), the car was, according to statements by defense attorney Mike Schachter, registered with “Nicole Player’s recently deceased grandmother” who lived in Florida.

Wait, a great grandmother who drove a Dodge Charger? That’s one cool great grandmother.

“The University of Kansas was satisfied with that,” Schachter said.

Actually, maybe that wasn’t the craziest moment. It was what came next. That’s when in the process of looking into the car, KU discovered a wire transfer to Player that came from a man named T.J. Gassnola. Player lived in Euless, Texas, a suburb of Dallas. Gassnola hailed from Ludlow, Massachusetts, a little town a couple hours west of Boston.

There appeared to be no good reason for this exchange – and there wasn’t, at least by NCAA standards. Gassnola, a member of Adidas’ so-called “Black Ops” group and AAU team owner, detailed from the witness stand how he had plied Player with $89,000 over the course of nearly a year, including a $30,000 cash payout in a New York hotel room and another $20,000 brick delivered while in Las Vegas.

But wait, that’s not the best part.

Worried there was no proper explanation for the payments, Player texted Gassnola to inform him she had told KU officials the two had been involved in an “intimate” relationship, believing such activity would somehow make it NCAA legal. Maybe that would get them out of trouble, she theorized.

Among the reasons this was might not be believed: Player had a live-in partner, Timicha Kirby, who happened to be a woman.

“She hoped it wouldn’t bother my fiancé,” Gassnola said of what he said was a made-up affair, before breaking into a chuckle and rolling his eyes. “OK, thanks Nicole.”

Courtroom 26B broke into laughter because when you are this far down the rabbit hole of the underworld of college basketball, there isn’t much else to do. The federal fraud trial of Adidas executives Jim Gatto, Merl Code and middleman/would-be agent Christian Dawkins is essentially the theater of the ridiculous – and few are more ridiculous than T.J. Gassnola, this burly, goateed legend in his own mind.

I assume the backup story was that Gassnola was carnally involved with the deceased great grandmother.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:I assume the backup story was that Gassnola was carnally involved with the deceased great grandmother.

Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

enfuego wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

That’s funny coming from the guy who wants to give our team a nickname. Are you guys starting anybody whose name hasn’t come up in this trial?

enfuego wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

The only thing that clearly affected Arizona at this trial was that Ayton was paid.......to go to Kansas. Can't wait till they strip the "streak" from Kansas and that they can no longer claim to be the champions of the little sisters of the poor conference.

TheCat wrote:

enfuego wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

The only thing that clearly affected Arizona at this trial was that Ayton was paid.......to go to Kansas. Can't wait till they strip the "streak" from Kansas and that they can no longer claim to be the champions of the little sisters of the poor conference.

Once again, and I need folks to say it with me, AYTON WAS NEVER PAID. HIS FAMILY WAS NEVER PAID.

Again.

AYTON WAS NEVER PAID. HIS FAMILY WAS NEVER PAID.

A random person possibly affiliated with Ayton (but link is unproven) was paid a very small sum (if Preston is getting $90k, WTF did Gassnola think $15k would do?) to relay back to the family with a message of joining Adidas, which the subsequent actions of not joining Adidas AAU, choosing a Nike School, and signing with Puma seems to undercut took place. Further, Ayton and his family were cleared by the NCAA twice, and the Feds in March.

Yes, Gassnola’s intent was to pay family toward Kansas.

But, again, there is zero proof the family accepted an offer even if it made it to them, which also cannot be proven.

Too bad you can't add the above to the espn article.

enfuego wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

In all seriousness, what’s the pulse of Jayhawk Nation? You all worried or nah?

I feel like UA fans are cautiously optimistic that there will be nothing too damning but also realize the NCAA sucks a dead dog’s dick and will probably give us the death penalty anyway just for shits and giggles.

Chicat wrote:

enfuego wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

In all seriousness, what’s the pulse of Jayhawk Nation? You all worried or nah?

I feel like UA fans are cautiously optimistic that there will be nothing too damning but also realize the NCAA sucks a dead dog’s dick and will probably give us the death penalty anyway just for shits and giggles.

We did nothing wrong. Worst case Silvio sits some games this year for the $2,500 to take his on-line course.

Arizona, on the other hand, has to be given something since an actual coach was involved. Death penalty? j/k

enfuego wrote:

Chicat wrote:

enfuego wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

In all seriousness, what’s the pulse of Jayhawk Nation? You all worried or nah?

I feel like UA fans are cautiously optimistic that there will be nothing too damning but also realize the NCAA sucks a dead dog’s dick and will probably give us the death penalty anyway just for shits and giggles.

We did nothing wrong. Worst case Silvio sits some games this year for the $2,500 to take his on-line course.

Arizona, on the other hand, has to be given something since an actual coach was involved. Death penalty? j/k

But that Arizona coach was soliciting a bribe to steer kids to an agent, and was fired for it. There’s no mention of money for recruits in Book’s case, so what competitive advantage was gained by Arizona there?

enfuego wrote:

Chicat wrote:

enfuego wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

In all seriousness, what’s the pulse of Jayhawk Nation? You all worried or nah?

I feel like UA fans are cautiously optimistic that there will be nothing too damning but also realize the NCAA sucks a dead dog’s dick and will probably give us the death penalty anyway just for shits and giggles.

We did nothing wrong. Worst case Silvio sits some games this year for the $2,500 to take his on-line course.

Arizona, on the other hand, has to be given something since an actual coach was involved. Death penalty? j/k

Do you have a player in your starting 5 who hasn’t been mentioned in one way or another in the trial run up or the trial Itself? Oh, and once Self trotted out in those assless chaps, you can never again say Kansas did nothing wrong.

enfuego wrote:

Chicat wrote:

enfuego wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

In all seriousness, what’s the pulse of Jayhawk Nation? You all worried or nah?

I feel like UA fans are cautiously optimistic that there will be nothing too damning but also realize the NCAA sucks a dead dog’s dick and will probably give us the death penalty anyway just for shits and giggles.

We did nothing wrong. Worst case Silvio sits some games this year for the $2,500 to take his on-line course.

Arizona, on the other hand, has to be given something since an actual coach was involved. Death penalty? j/k

Chicat wrote:

enfuego wrote:

Chicat wrote:

enfuego wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

In all seriousness, what’s the pulse of Jayhawk Nation? You all worried or nah?

I feel like UA fans are cautiously optimistic that there will be nothing too damning but also realize the NCAA sucks a dead dog’s dick and will probably give us the death penalty anyway just for shits and giggles.

We did nothing wrong. Worst case Silvio sits some games this year for the $2,500 to take his on-line course.

Arizona, on the other hand, has to be given something since an actual coach was involved. Death penalty? j/k

But that Arizona coach was soliciting a bribe to steer kids to an agent, and was fired for it. There’s no mention of money for recruits in Book’s case, so what competitive advantage was gained by Arizona there?

Convenient you leave out:

"Jahvon Quinerly is unlikely to play for Arizona, and may not play college ball at all. Quinerly appears to be the player given money from agents through Richardson and if the NCAA finds he took it, Quinerly could be suspended for part or all of his freshman season (though it may be more likely at this point he doesn't play college ball at all, and just plays professionally overseas before joining the 2019 NBA Draft).

How do we know it's Quinerly? The document reported that Richardson took a total of $20,000 in bribes and gave most of it to a "top point guard" who committed “around three days” before Aug. 11. Quinerly, a five-star point guard, announced on ESPNU on Aug. 8 that he would play for to Arizona."

"On or about July 5, Dawkins asked the undercover agent to pay another $15,000 to Richardson which Richardson would, according to Dawkins, “provide to (a top recruit) in order to influence (recruit) to attend (Arizona).”

Dawkins told the undercover agent that Richardson had “the top point guard in the country,” who was ready to commit to Arizona but that Richardson needed to provide the player $15,000 “ASAP basically.” Dawkins said Richardson was willing to meet the undercover agent in Atlanta, South Carolina or “fly to New York and pick it up and take it to the kid’s mom.”"

enfuego wrote:

Chicat wrote:

enfuego wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

In all seriousness, what’s the pulse of Jayhawk Nation? You all worried or nah?

I feel like UA fans are cautiously optimistic that there will be nothing too damning but also realize the NCAA sucks a dead dog’s dick and will probably give us the death penalty anyway just for shits and giggles.

We did nothing wrong. Worst case Silvio sits some games this year for the $2,500 to take his on-line course.

Arizona, on the other hand, has to be given something since an actual coach was involved. Death penalty? j/k

Maybe that is what you think with your Kansas size pea brain. You played a full year with an ineligible player. If anyone should know the penalty it is Arizona. Jason Terry took 15K unknown by the coaching staff. Lost our streak of NCAA appearence and all games after he took the money. The penalty is clear. No streak no more....plus lack of control on the Billy P case.

Quinerly's cleared to play. Get less news from last September.

enfuego wrote: Convenient you leave out:

"Jahvon Quinerly is unlikely to play for Arizona, and may not play college ball at all. Quinerly appears to be the player given money from agents through Richardson and if the NCAA finds he took it, Quinerly could be suspended for part or all of his freshman season (though it may be more likely at this point he doesn't play college ball at all, and just plays professionally overseas before joining the 2019 NBA Draft).

How do we know it's Quinerly? The document reported that Richardson took a total of $20,000 in bribes and gave most of it to a "top point guard" who committed “around three days” before Aug. 11. Quinerly, a five-star point guard, announced on ESPNU on Aug. 8 that he would play for to Arizona."

"On or about July 5, Dawkins asked the undercover agent to pay another $15,000 to Richardson which Richardson would, according to Dawkins, “provide to (a top recruit) in order to influence (recruit) to attend (Arizona).”

Dawkins told the undercover agent that Richardson had “the top point guard in the country,” who was ready to commit to Arizona but that Richardson needed to provide the player $15,000 “ASAP basically.” Dawkins said Richardson was willing to meet the undercover agent in Atlanta, South Carolina or “fly to New York and pick it up and take it to the kid’s mom.”"

You should send this to Villanova's ups before Quinerly plays a single minute. HURRY BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

KillerKlown wrote:

enfuego wrote: Convenient you leave out:

"Jahvon Quinerly is unlikely to play for Arizona, and may not play college ball at all. Quinerly appears to be the player given money from agents through Richardson and if the NCAA finds he took it, Quinerly could be suspended for part or all of his freshman season (though it may be more likely at this point he doesn't play college ball at all, and just plays professionally overseas before joining the 2019 NBA Draft).

How do we know it's Quinerly? The document reported that Richardson took a total of $20,000 in bribes and gave most of it to a "top point guard" who committed “around three days” before Aug. 11. Quinerly, a five-star point guard, announced on ESPNU on Aug. 8 that he would play for to Arizona."

"On or about July 5, Dawkins asked the undercover agent to pay another $15,000 to Richardson which Richardson would, according to Dawkins, “provide to (a top recruit) in order to influence (recruit) to attend (Arizona).”

Dawkins told the undercover agent that Richardson had “the top point guard in the country,” who was ready to commit to Arizona but that Richardson needed to provide the player $15,000 “ASAP basically.” Dawkins said Richardson was willing to meet the undercover agent in Atlanta, South Carolina or “fly to New York and pick it up and take it to the kid’s mom.”"

You should send this to Villanova's ups before Quinerly plays a single minute. HURRY BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

Villanova wasn't involved, why should they be punished? Quinerly pays back the money and sits a few games.

enfuego wrote:

KillerKlown wrote:

enfuego wrote: Convenient you leave out:

"Jahvon Quinerly is unlikely to play for Arizona, and may not play college ball at all. Quinerly appears to be the player given money from agents through Richardson and if the NCAA finds he took it, Quinerly could be suspended for part or all of his freshman season (though it may be more likely at this point he doesn't play college ball at all, and just plays professionally overseas before joining the 2019 NBA Draft).

How do we know it's Quinerly? The document reported that Richardson took a total of $20,000 in bribes and gave most of it to a "top point guard" who committed “around three days” before Aug. 11. Quinerly, a five-star point guard, announced on ESPNU on Aug. 8 that he would play for to Arizona."

"On or about July 5, Dawkins asked the undercover agent to pay another $15,000 to Richardson which Richardson would, according to Dawkins, “provide to (a top recruit) in order to influence (recruit) to attend (Arizona).”

Dawkins told the undercover agent that Richardson had “the top point guard in the country,” who was ready to commit to Arizona but that Richardson needed to provide the player $15,000 “ASAP basically.” Dawkins said Richardson was willing to meet the undercover agent in Atlanta, South Carolina or “fly to New York and pick it up and take it to the kid’s mom.”"

You should send this to Villanova's ups before Quinerly plays a single minute. HURRY BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

Villanova wasn't involved, why should they be punished? Quinerly pays back the money and sits a few games.

Right over your head. The point is Vill already knows this investigated it and cleared him. Do you really think that with the success they have had they would jeopardize it with an ineligible player?

KillerKlown wrote:

enfuego wrote:

KillerKlown wrote:

enfuego wrote: "Jahvon Quinerly is unlikely to play for Arizona, and may not play college ball at all. Quinerly appears to be the player given money from agents through Richardson and if the NCAA finds he took it, Quinerly could be suspended for part or all of his freshman season (though it may be more likely at this point he doesn't play college ball at all, and just plays professionally overseas before joining the 2019 NBA Draft).

How do we know it's Quinerly? The document reported that Richardson took a total of $20,000 in bribes and gave most of it to a "top point guard" who committed “around three days” before Aug. 11. Quinerly, a five-star point guard, announced on ESPNU on Aug. 8 that he would play for to Arizona."

"On or about July 5, Dawkins asked the undercover agent to pay another $15,000 to Richardson which Richardson would, according to Dawkins, “provide to (a top recruit) in order to influence (recruit) to attend (Arizona). Dawkins told the undercover agent that Richardson had “the top point guard in the country,” who was ready to commit to Arizona but that Richardson needed to provide the player $15,000 “ASAP basically.” Dawkins said Richardson was willing to meet the undercover agent in Atlanta, South Carolina or “fly to New York and pick it up and take it to the kid’s mom.”"

You should send this to Villanova's ups before Quinerly plays a single minute. HURRY BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

Villanova wasn't involved, why should they be punished? Quinerly pays back the money and sits a few games.

Right over your head. The point is Vill already knows this investigated it and cleared him. Do you really think that with the success they have had they would jeopardize it with an ineligible player?

I think that went over your head. Villanova...was....not...involved...so...will... not... be... punished...Quinerly...will...pay...back...the...money...and...sit...out...a...few...games...see...Miles...Bridges...Michigan...State...Your...point...that...it...was...investigated...and...cleared...is...patently...false.

enfuego wrote:

KillerKlown wrote:

enfuego wrote: Convenient you leave out:

"Jahvon Quinerly is unlikely to play for Arizona, and may not play college ball at all. Quinerly appears to be the player given money from agents through Richardson and if the NCAA finds he took it, Quinerly could be suspended for part or all of his freshman season (though it may be more likely at this point he doesn't play college ball at all, and just plays professionally overseas before joining the 2019 NBA Draft).

How do we know it's Quinerly? The document reported that Richardson took a total of $20,000 in bribes and gave most of it to a "top point guard" who committed “around three days” before Aug. 11. Quinerly, a five-star point guard, announced on ESPNU on Aug. 8 that he would play for to Arizona."

"On or about July 5, Dawkins asked the undercover agent to pay another $15,000 to Richardson which Richardson would, according to Dawkins, “provide to (a top recruit) in order to influence (recruit) to attend (Arizona).”

Dawkins told the undercover agent that Richardson had “the top point guard in the country,” who was ready to commit to Arizona but that Richardson needed to provide the player $15,000 “ASAP basically.” Dawkins said Richardson was willing to meet the undercover agent in Atlanta, South Carolina or “fly to New York and pick it up and take it to the kid’s mom.”"

You should send this to Villanova's ups before Quinerly plays a single minute. HURRY BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

Villanova wasn't involved, why should they be punished? Quinerly pays back the money and sits a few games.

Except that isn't what has happened. Let me know when Quinerly reimburses Book or Dawkins and when he gets suspended.

At least when we talk **** about Kansas, we don't completely make up factual scenarios.

enfuego wrote:

KillerKlown wrote:

enfuego wrote:

KillerKlown wrote:

enfuego wrote: "Jahvon Quinerly is unlikely to play for Arizona, and may not play college ball at all. Quinerly appears to be the player given money from agents through Richardson and if the NCAA finds he took it, Quinerly could be suspended for part or all of his freshman season (though it may be more likely at this point he doesn't play college ball at all, and just plays professionally overseas before joining the 2019 NBA Draft).

How do we know it's Quinerly? The document reported that Richardson took a total of $20,000 in bribes and gave most of it to a "top point guard" who committed “around three days” before Aug. 11. Quinerly, a five-star point guard, announced on ESPNU on Aug. 8 that he would play for to Arizona."

"On or about July 5, Dawkins asked the undercover agent to pay another $15,000 to Richardson which Richardson would, according to Dawkins, “provide to (a top recruit) in order to influence (recruit) to attend (Arizona). Dawkins told the undercover agent that Richardson had “the top point guard in the country,” who was ready to commit to Arizona but that Richardson needed to provide the player $15,000 “ASAP basically.” Dawkins said Richardson was willing to meet the undercover agent in Atlanta, South Carolina or “fly to New York and pick it up and take it to the kid’s mom.”"

You should send this to Villanova's ups before Quinerly plays a single minute. HURRY BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

Villanova wasn't involved, why should they be punished? Quinerly pays back the money and sits a few games.

Right over your head. The point is Vill already knows this investigated it and cleared him. Do you really think that with the success they have had they would jeopardize it with an ineligible player?

I think that went over your head. Villanova...was....not...involved...so...will... not... be... punished...Quinerly...will...pay...back...the...money...and...sit...out...a...few...games...see...Miles...Bridges...Michigan...State...Your...point...that...it...was...investigated...and...cleared...is...patently...false.

Patently False
Prove...it's...false...and...he...definitely...took...money. Prove...that...Book...didn't...pocket...the...money. Don't give me "allegedly" b.s. give me concrete. And actually get something that's not from an SB Nation blog from half a year ago or an azcentral post from September of 2017 please.


Edited my post to simplify and take out unnecessary 0 and 1's.

Kansas is soooo innocent

Sure, for example, Kansas requires its players and coaches to fill out a lot of forms. But on the other hand, the night before he was enshrined in the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame, Self and his wife had dinner with Gassnola and his fiancee, the same Gassnola whose AAU team the NCAA suspended because of alleged contacts with agents.

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10 things to know about federal college hoops corruption trial as it heads into crucial final stretch

84Cat wrote:Kansas is soooo innocent

Sure, for example, Kansas requires its players and coaches to fill out a lot of forms. But on the other hand, the night before he was enshrined in the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame, Self and his wife had dinner with Gassnola and his fiancee, the same Gassnola whose AAU team the NCAA suspended because of alleged contacts with agents.

https://sports.yahoo.com/10-things-know ... 07130.html" target="_blank
10 things to know about federal college hoops corruption trial as it heads into crucial final stretch

Self was having an affair with Gassnola. That's the go to excuse for Kansas.

Oh enfuego.....

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

A wise poster once told me that. Good advice to heed if you ask me.

enfuego wrote:

Chicat wrote:

enfuego wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

In all seriousness, what’s the pulse of Jayhawk Nation? You all worried or nah?

I feel like UA fans are cautiously optimistic that there will be nothing too damning but also realize the NCAA sucks a dead dog’s dick and will probably give us the death penalty anyway just for shits and giggles.

We did nothing wrong. Worst case Silvio sits some games this year for the $2,500 to take his on-line course.

Arizona, on the other hand, has to be given something since an actual coach was involved. Death penalty? j/k

Texts show Kansas coaches knew of Adidas role in Silvio De Sousa's recruitment

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ecruitment" target="_blank

"We good," Self asked via text.

Enfuego's post has aged beautifully.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

enfuego wrote:

Chicat wrote:

enfuego wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Lesson of the moment: If you don't know how to be a criminal, don't engage in a criminal conspiracy.

You shouldn't lob softballs waist high down the middle of the plate with the bases loaded.

In all seriousness, what’s the pulse of Jayhawk Nation? You all worried or nah?

I feel like UA fans are cautiously optimistic that there will be nothing too damning but also realize the NCAA sucks a dead dog’s dick and will probably give us the death penalty anyway just for shits and giggles.

We did nothing wrong. Worst case Silvio sits some games this year for the $2,500 to take his on-line course.

Arizona, on the other hand, has to be given something since an actual coach was involved. Death penalty? j/k

Texts show Kansas coaches knew of Adidas role in Silvio De Sousa's recruitment

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ecruitment" target="_blank

"We good," Self asked via text.

Enfuego's post has aged beautifully.

The amazing thing is Kansas is a blue blood program, one of the top five in all of college basketball and one would think ESPN would be all over this. It is a huge story. Yes, ESPN has reported it, but not with the glee of the Miller nonsense from last winter. Kansas being involved in this college basketball scandal is huge -- but it is almost if the sports media doesn't want it to happen, like they have to reluctantly report it. Where are Seth Green, Jay Bilas and Dick Vitale calling for Self's job? Where is the outrage?

Here’s Dick Vitale’s outrage...

God what a douche. Is ESPN aware of how hypocritical they're being or do they just not give a shit?

Chicat wrote:Here’s Dick Vitale’s outrage...

Vitale was calling for Miller to be fired and banned from basketball. The Saturday after the b.s. Schlabach story (i.e. hit-piece) broke, Bilas and Greenberg said Miller would never coach again. Now, their beloved Kansas program is being outed during the trial, and everyone is treading with caution, with Vitale ignoring it completely as he bobs his head and salivates over Self and the Jayhawks' upcoming season. Totally disgusting.

Make no mistake about it. We will take our hits when Book goes on trial. It will come out that two nickel and dime guys gave him $15-20K but their will be no dollar amounts like we are talking now. You will have Book taking $20K to steer players to a financial advisor. The issue was always follow the money and it was always going to be an Adidas school that benefited and was implicated.

My bet....Kansas will be punished more than Arizona at the end.

YoDeFoe wrote:God what a douche. Is ESPN aware of how hypocritical they're being or do they just not give a shit?

Does Dick drive clicks and views?
Is Dick’s blatant hypocrisy slandering a program they have no vested financial interest in?
Then they LOVE Dick.

TheCat wrote:Make no mistake about it. We will take our hits when Book goes on trial. It will come out that two nickel and dime guys gave him $15-20K but their will be no dollar amounts like we are talking now. You will have Book taking $20K to steer players to a financial advisor. The issue was always follow the money and it was always going to be an Adidas school that benefited and was implicated.

My bet....Kansas will be punished more than Arizona at the end.

No doubt about it -- once the Book trial starts, ESPN will be all over it. Even right now, the primary article about Arizona on the ESPN basketball page is Miller refusing to discuss the FBI on media day. That said, Kansas and Bill Self are facing some serious issues with the NCAA moving forward. Pitino knew about payments to steer players to Louisville and he got fired (the firing likely happened because the new scandal alongside the previous one with prostitutes could not be overlooked by the school), but Self and the Kansas athletic department cannot be happy with this development.

Not with these headlines on CBS Sports "Kansas assistant caught on wiretap discussing money issues over Zion Williamson" and the assistant discussing a job for the parents and housing. Direct implication of the coaching staff.

On another note if they had Miller on tape discussing anything related to paying a player the defense would have brought it up today. There whole defense is the coaches knew and if they had that tape they would have used it. The discussion abbout Zion and the KU assistant was argued that it should be put in evidence since it is a wiretap. Judge said no. They have Kansas by the balls because they have the assistant and Self's texts.

I thought I read somewhere that the defense had a good day by basically saying college bball is so corrupt that it isn't. Implying it is wide spread and everyone knew it

azcat49 wrote:I thought I read somewhere that the defense had a good day by basically saying college bball is so corrupt that it isn't. Implying it is wide spread and everyone knew it

That's been the strategy from the get go. We'll see how it works out for them.

azcat49 wrote:I thought I read somewhere that the defense had a good day by basically saying college bball is so corrupt that it isn't. Implying it is wide spread and everyone knew it

I'd say you thought wrng. The judge has specifically old the defence to not go there. The trial is about fraud, not NCAA buisness model.

"The evidence, I submit, shows that Kansas' head coach knew of and asked for a payment to be made to Silvio De Sousa's handler," Schachter told the jury. "More than that, Coach Self requested just the kind of help that Mr. Gassnola arranged as a condition for Coach Self to permit Adidas to continue their sponsorship agreement with the University of Kansas."

Enfuego’s glass house is now a carport.

Chicat wrote:Enfuego’s glass house is now a carport.

It was all those softballs.

It must be enfuego's busy time at work again.

Wasn’t the job thing something that angered Jeff Whitey’s mom and a reason she made him move to KU?
I thought she was mad that she had to find her own job here in Tucson and what she found was not high paying.

Postmaster wrote:Wasn’t the job thing something that angered Jeff Whitey’s mom and a reason she made him move to KU?
I thought she was mad that she had to find her own job here in Tucson and what she found was not high paying.

Vaunted economic hub: Lawrence, Kansas. Population, 98,000 (10% of Tucson). Must have been the guiding hand of the free market that swooped in for ol Miss Whitey.

Postmaster wrote:Wasn’t the job thing something that angered Jeff Whitey’s mom and a reason she made him move to KU?
I thought she was mad that she had to find her own job here in Tucson and what she found was not high paying.

Self took care of her.

From CBS Sports "Kansas already played De Sousa in 20 games last season -- including all five games it played in the NCAA Tournament. Consequently, it's reasonable to expect that the Jayhawks will eventually be required to vacate their 2018 Final Four appearance if De Sousa is ruled to have been ineligible last season." Get ready to lose the streak of championships mr enfuego.

...and that consecutive tourney appearance streak...


Enfuego's 'busy' time at work again. But don't worry, the next time any even slightly bad UA-related news comes up in regard to the FBI he'll be front and center again. Book it.

UAdevil wrote:...and that consecutive tourney appearance streak...


Enfuego's 'busy' time at work again. But don't worry, the next time any even slightly bad UA-related news comes up in regard to the FBI he'll be front and center again. Book it.

Don't you mean ..."Book" it?