2014 Bowl Projections

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:10 am

3goggles wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:After last night we will drop to at least #14-18 in the polls. The fiesta bowl is no longer an option. End of story
Okay UOFAHATER I mean ASUHATER I forgot you were on the CFP committee. All hail ASUHATER!!!

What a whiner.

Please explain to me how we stay in the top 10 after last night.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:15 am

3goggles wrote:would it have been better to have Ucla be the sacrificial lamb last night then for us to be blown out?

Yes. If UCLA beat Stanford we would be looking at being ranked #9 or so in the final poll.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:29 am

yeah. Us being blown out in this game probably means a holiday bowl. If we hadn't even played in it we'd probably be in the fiesta. So it was actually worse to win the division. But hey now we get to play a mediocre big 10 team in the holiday bowl like Minnesota or Nebraska

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:42 am

ASUHATER! wrote:yeah. Us being blown out in this game probably means a holiday bowl. If we hadn't even played in it we'd probably be in the fiesta. So it was actually worse to win the division. But hey now we get to play a mediocre big 10 team in the holiday bowl like Minnesota or Nebraska

Nothing like a bad loss to bring out your pessimistic self. Committee isn't dropping Arizona 7-11 spots for losing to the #2 team in the country. You are on tilt right now.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:16 pm

Well we're dropping at least 4-5 which will exclude us from the fiesta. I feel really confident it'll be the holiday bowl.

Cfp-Oregon
Alamo-ucla
Holiday-Arizona
Foster farms sf bowl-Stanford(they've said they want Stanford)
Sun bowl-asu or usc
Vegas bowl-asu or usc
Cactus bowl-Utah or uw
Random other bowl with an open spot-leftover from Utah or uw.

But to be fair the holiday bowl would probably want usc over Arizona and they are allowed to pick usc. So there's a small chance we end up in the sun bowl.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:48 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:yeah. Us being blown out in this game probably means a holiday bowl. If we hadn't even played in it we'd probably be in the fiesta. So it was actually worse to win the division. But hey now we get to play a mediocre big 10 team in the holiday bowl like Minnesota or Nebraska

This is what I was worried about if Oregon really laid it on - the Fiesta Bowl might not really want Arizona anymore.

Still, most of the media projections had UA losing to Oregon and still ending up in the Fiesta Bowl, playing against Boise State.

Why then is Boise State getting in with a #20 ranking and not UA with a presumable #15/16 ranking?

And is their some stipulation that the Fiesta must take some shmoe ranked ahead of us, even if they don't draw the fan support?

I don't mind the Holiday as long as we win - the worst case scenario is a repeat of ASU last year getting blown out in both the Pac CG & the Holiday.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:02 pm

One of the playoff bowls is required to pick the highest ranked mw/cusa/mac/aac/sun belt champion

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:26 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
3goggles wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:After last night we will drop to at least #14-18 in the polls. The fiesta bowl is no longer an option. End of story
Okay UOFAHATER I mean ASUHATER I forgot you were on the CFP committee. All hail ASUHATER!!!
What a whiner.

Please explain to me how we stay in the top 10 after last night.

Well if all the teams that are ahead of us when which is very possible the only team that may jump us is Michigan State. Losing in the conference championship shouldn't hurt you that bad! I think we will be ranked higher then UCLA that's for sure!

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:28 pm

Should we tell Scheer and Mandel that ASUHATER! already knows?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:36 pm

I can understand if we lost in overtime...but they won't be too kind to us after seeing us pushed around like a 1aa team.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:43 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:I can understand if we lost in overtime...but they won't be too kind to us after seeing us pushed around like a 1aa team.

And how the fuck do you know this? You have no clue!

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:45 pm

And how do you know they won't? You have no clue.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:52 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:And how do you know they won't? You have no clue.

You are the one saying what they will do. Everyone else is saying we'll have to see.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:02 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:

Either way, so glad we don't have to wait until bedtime to find out the Bowl lineup tomorrow. The BCS lineups didn't often get released until like 9PM.

10:30 Church, Noon:30 Bowl Selection show, 1PM NFL/Afternoon Nap

michcat · Post by **michcat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:36 pm

A lot of the favorites are winning big. That helps us and I think we still get a major bowl game.

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:56 pm

At least we're not getting shut out like Wisconsin...

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:02 pm

Everything went right today for Arizona

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:02 pm

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:03 pm

Alieberman wrote:Everything went right today for Arizona

So far, but KSU still has a chance.

EDIT: Never mind

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:07 pm

Even if the Cats beat Oregon yesterday, I still doubt the Cats would have been in the playoff, at least the way today's games are falling.

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:09 pm

Catintheheat wrote:Even if the Cats beat Oregon yesterday, I still doubt the Cats would have been in the playoff, at least the way today's games are falling.

Yuuup. OSU earned it. Shutting them down so much.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:10 pm

Here's my prediction if everything holds:

Sugar: #1 Alabama vs. #4 Baylor
Rose: #2 Oregon vs. #3 FSU

Orange: Georgia Tech vs. Kansas St.
Peach: Mississippi St. vs. Michigan St.
Cotton: TCU vs. Ohio St
Fiesta: Arizona vs. Boise St.

Might have to swap OSU for Baylor

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:11 pm

qwertyus wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:Even if the Cats beat Oregon yesterday, I still doubt the Cats would have been in the playoff, at least the way today's games are falling.
Yuuup. OSU earned it. Shutting them down so much.

I doubt if Ohio State is going to make it to the playoffs unless they pass undefeated Florida State or TCU.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:12 pm

Baylor isn't going to jump two spots when the 5 teams ahead of them all won. Baylor is in the cotton bowl

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:16 pm

I say leave TCU out and move Ohio State in. That would solve the TCU/Baylor dilemma.

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:18 pm

I don't know if you can let TCU in here. OSU has had key injuries at QB and is STILL dominating. Plus they won their Conference Championship, while TCU isn't even a Conference champ AND they don't need to play Baylor in a championship game!

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:21 pm

but how can you drop #3 tcu 2 spots because they won by 52? (And won the conference)

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:22 pm

qwertyus wrote:I don't know if you can let TCU in here. OSU has had key injuries at QB and is STILL dominating. Plus they won their Conference Championship, while TCU isn't even a Conference champ AND they don't need to play Baylor in a championship game!

So why was tcu raising a conference title trophy earlier today?

77HoyaCat4Ever · Post by **77HoyaCat4Ever** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:23 pm

No way FSU loses this one to Georgia Tech . . .

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:24 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:but how can you drop #3 tcu 2 spots because they won by 52? (And won the conference)

They've shown the week to week rankings are always in flux - this isn't like the polls where you really can't move down if you win.

I don't see how you can have TCU over Baylor with Baylor winning head-to-head in the same conference that plays all 9 teams.

As CITH said, put OSU in and solve that problem.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:24 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
qwertyus wrote:I don't know if you can let TCU in here. OSU has had key injuries at QB and is STILL dominating. Plus they won their Conference Championship, while TCU isn't even a Conference champ AND they don't need to play Baylor in a championship game!
So why was tcu raising a conference title trophy earlier today?

Co-champs. Big 12 BS - said head-to-head doesn't matter. Baylor is the champ.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:25 pm

Florida State is not one of the 4 best teams.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:26 pm

Catintheheat wrote:Florida State is not one of the 4 best teams.

May be true, but I can't see them leaving a Big 5 13-0 team out.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:26 pm

I personally think Baylor should be in over tcu, but the committee would have a hard time explaining how they dropped tcu out after they won by 52 today.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:27 pm

Catintheheat wrote:Florida State is not one of the 4 best teams.

Agree. I'd put them at like #6, but the committee won't leave out an undefeated power 5 champ.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:28 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:I personally think Baylor should be in over tcu, but the committee would have a hard time explaining how they dropped tcu out after they won by 52 today.

They were waiting for Baylor to have another quality win and finishing the season before going to the head-to-head.

But now I am thinking they just might take OSU.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:30 pm

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:30 pm

What drop tcu from 3 to 5, keep Baylor at 6 and jump osu from 5 to 4?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:31 pm

The Big 12 is taking a beating on ESPN for not having a conference championship game and having "co-champions".

They are also saying Baylor would get the nod if it's a Big 12 team now.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:35 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:The Big 12 is taking a beating on ESPN for not having a conference championship game and having "co-champions".

Isn't the Big Ten and higher rated conference than the Big 12?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:37 pm

Nope. From Sagarin:

CONFERENCE CENTRAL MEAN SIMPLE AVERAGE TEAMS WIN50%

1 SEC-WEST (A) = 92.42 92.22 ( 1) 7 92.26 ( 1)
2 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 81.30 79.87 ( 2) 6 80.51 ( 2)
3 SEC-EAST (A) = 80.10 79.19 ( 3) 7 79.92 ( 3)
4 BIG 12 (A) = 79.27 78.96 ( 4) 10 79.12 ( 4)
5 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 75.60 76.53 ( 5) 6 75.99 ( 5)
6 BIG TEN-WEST (A) = 74.90 74.96 ( 8) 7 74.91 ( 6)
7 BIG TEN-EAST (A) = 74.27 75.42 ( 6) 7 74.73 ( 8)
8 ACC-ATLANTIC (A) = 74.24 73.30 ( 9) 7 73.87 ( 9)
9 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 74.21 75.01 ( 7) 7 74.82 ( 7)
10 MWC-MOUNTAIN (A) = 67.56 67.26 ( 10) 6 67.42 ( 10)

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:38 pm

I doubt it the big 10 is terrible. Ohio state only played like 3 ranked teams this year.

If they leave out tcu and Baylor because of not having a title game...guess what that means? Big 12 will try to expand to 12-14 within 2 years so they aren't left out any more...

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:50 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
qwertyus wrote:I don't know if you can let TCU in here. OSU has had key injuries at QB and is STILL dominating. Plus they won their Conference Championship, while TCU isn't even a Conference champ AND they don't need to play Baylor in a championship game!
So why was tcu raising a conference title trophy earlier today?

No reason. Baylor beat them, and they finished with the same record. That's Co-Champs, with Baylor winning the tie-breaker unless I'm forgetting something. They don't have a Conference championship, that should count against them, because we could be certain which team's better (Baylor or TCU) by having them play each other.

Why does Baylor think they're conference champs?

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:51 pm

8 team playoff please

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:51 pm

It should be Oregon against Ohio State in the Rose Bowl. Or the Pac-12 vs the Big 10 like it's supposed to be.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:55 pm

Catintheheat wrote:It should be Oregon against Ohio State in the Rose Bowl. Or the Pac-12 vs the Big 10 like it's supposed to be.

To do that they have to put osu over fsu. I'd be happy with and it would present nicely to have Oregon/osu in Pasadena and Alabama/fsu in New Orleans

In re UofA · Post by **In re UofA** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:10 pm

I think it's
1. Oregon
2. Alabama
3. FSU
4. Ohio State

Oregon v. Ohio State
Alabama v. FSU

The Big XII played 12 games not 13, and no championship. Too bad, so sad TCU and Baylor.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:12 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:What drop tcu from 3 to 5, keep Baylor at 6 and jump osu from 5 to 4?

I think a 4 team playoff of Bama vs FSU and Oregon vs Ohio St. would be pretty decent

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:16 pm

In re UofA wrote:I think it's
1. Oregon
2. Alabama
3. FSU
4. Ohio State

Oregon v. Ohio State
Alabama v. FSU

The Big XII played 12 games not 13, and no championship. Too bad, so sad TCU and Baylor.

My problem is who has Ohio State beat? Michigan State? They beat nobody of note. Wisconsin? They beat nobody of note.

I'd rather the committee make a tough choice twixt TCU/Baylor.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:18 pm

Welp everything happened that needed to. I dont know if the big bowls have input but the slightest rumour that Fiesta screwed us and I wont attend any of their bowls ever. Wouldn't mind a date in dallas. Just hate the early game.

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