2015 recruits/commitment thread

TuiTouchdown · Post by **TuiTouchdown** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:52 pm

UALoco wrote:Tezino committed to the Pirate.

That's nutty. Anyone have a read on this? Did we cool on him at all? Or did we just lose out to Wazzu for a linebacker? Which would be nutty given all the success our star linebacker is having.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:53 pm

UALoco wrote:Tezino committed to the Pirate.

UGH!!!!!

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:54 pm

TuiTouchdown wrote:
UALoco wrote:Tezino committed to the Pirate.
That's nutty. Anyone have a read on this? Did we cool on him at all? Or did we just lose out to Wazzu for a linebacker? Which would be nutty given all the success our star linebacker is having.

Somebody mentioned a while back that we cooled on him because of academics but who knows.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:59 pm

3goggles wrote:
TuiTouchdown wrote:
UALoco wrote:Tezino committed to the Pirate.
That's nutty. Anyone have a read on this? Did we cool on him at all? Or did we just lose out to Wazzu for a linebacker? Which would be nutty given all the success our star linebacker is having.
Somebody mentioned a while back that we cooled on him because of academics but who knows.

Can someone explain how different Arizona's entrance requirements are to the other P12 schools. I understand how Stanford, USC, or Cal might be tougher academically but is there any real difference between Arizona and Wazzu? I mean, my kid's 5th grade curriculum at his charter school is tougher than some of the stuff I to at Arizona...bz major of course

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:01 pm

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:05 pm

UALoco wrote:
3goggles wrote:
TuiTouchdown wrote:
UALoco wrote:Tezino committed to the Pirate.
That's nutty. Anyone have a read on this? Did we cool on him at all? Or did we just lose out to Wazzu for a linebacker? Which would be nutty given all the success our star linebacker is having.
Somebody mentioned a while back that we cooled on him because of academics but who knows.
Can someone explain how different Arizona's entrance requirements are to the other P12 schools. I understand how Stanford, USC, or Cal might be tougher academically but is there any real difference between Arizona and Wazzu? I mean, my kid's 5th grade curriculum at his charter school is tougher than some of the stuff I to at Arizona...bz major of course

Damn I hope this season is helping with 2016 recruiting. Doesn't seem to have made a difference for 2015 class. I'm holding out for some of the DT's!

dc4azcats · Post by **dc4azcats** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:04 pm

3goggles wrote:
UALoco wrote:
3goggles wrote:
TuiTouchdown wrote:
UALoco wrote:Tezino committed to the Pirate.
That's nutty. Anyone have a read on this? Did we cool on him at all? Or did we just lose out to Wazzu for a linebacker? Which would be nutty given all the success our star linebacker is having.
Somebody mentioned a while back that we cooled on him because of academics but who knows.
Can someone explain how different Arizona's entrance requirements are to the other P12 schools. I understand how Stanford, USC, or Cal might be tougher academically but is there any real difference between Arizona and Wazzu? I mean, my kid's 5th grade curriculum at his charter school is tougher than some of the stuff I to at Arizona...bz major of course
Damn I hope this season is helping with 2016 recruiting. Doesn't seem to have made a difference for 2015 class. I'm holding out for some of the DT's!

We cooled on him awhile ago according to Scheer. With what we brought in LY from Salesian (both guys redshirted TY) and then knowing that Scooby is a soph with a couple of years left - is it any wonder that some LB's are looking elsewhere? Unless you can't read a depth chart Arizona should be in good shape at LB. Doesn't mean we aren't trying and it doesn't mean we didn't want some of these guys as we did, but it's the nature of the beast sometimes. Hank Hobson is the only Senior LB listed on the official roster. Here's the class breakdown at the LB position:

Kendrick Jackson is currently our only LB in this class.
Cobb, Ware - are Redshirting TY
RJ Morgan - is a RS Frosh
Ippolito, Matthews, De'Andre Miller, Turituri, and Wright are either RS sophs or true sophs.
Thomas Jackson and Antonio Smothers are listed as Juniors.
I listed Jake Matthews even though he's a walk-on mainly because he's well thought of and has seen some PT. There's 4 other LB's listed on the roster that are also walk-ons who may or may not develop into players that garner some PT down the road.

I'm sure the staff would like to have a little more balance but they were forced to bring in a bunch of guys at once simply because we were razor thin at the position. Next year would be my guess where we load back up on LB's as the 5 sophs currently listed will be moving on in 2 years and recruits will see the opportunity for early playing time.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:14 pm

DC, good info..thanks!!

The Ooh Aah Man · Post by **The Ooh Aah Man** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:49 pm

Franklin is also a LB and Arizona didn't lose Tezino to Wazzu, they stopped recruiting him.

Scummy Dick Douglas · Post by **Scummy Dick Douglas** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:15 pm

The Ooh Aah Man wrote:Franklin is also a LB and Arizona didn't lose Tezino to Wazzu, they stopped recruiting him.

This is why offer lists can be deceiving. Many of the better teams on his "offer" list had stopped recruiting him. From those not in the know, it just looks like he chose Wazzu over much better options.

ANGCatFan · Post by **ANGCatFan** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:20 pm

The Ooh Aah Man wrote:Franklin is also a LB and Arizona didn't lose Tezino to Wazzu, they stopped recruiting him.

Ooh, good points and, aah, welcome to the board man!

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:18 pm

TuiTouchdown · Post by **TuiTouchdown** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:24 pm

ANGCatFan wrote:
The Ooh Aah Man wrote:Franklin is also a LB and Arizona didn't lose Tezino to Wazzu, they stopped recruiting him.
Ooh, good points and, aah, welcome to the board man!

Oh yeah, Cobb is going to be a beast. Take a look at his film if you haven't already.

ANGCatFan · Post by **ANGCatFan** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:15 am

UAEebs86 wrote:

Just another example of the bias inherent in recruit rankings. They are only getting extra stars because they have committed to a top 10 school. Damn the system. Damn. Damn. Damn.

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:40 am

I love Kendal Williams as a LB. Vastly Under-Rated imo. He's got so much speed coming off the edge and this was his first year learning LB after being a DE is whole life. He has a lot of potential there. I also like Kendrick Jackson. Dude's a bruiser and will be a good addition to the LB corps. Kendal Williams is a teammate of Arthur McGinnis and that's big. I'm sure he's been trying to recruit him here and Arthur is a stud. 6'2 225 and runs a 4.47 forty. That's crazy. Just a beast.

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:41 am

Tezino's top three was SDSU, Colorado, and Wazzou that should tell you all you need to know.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:13 am

Do we know when JoJo, Fotu & Williams are commiting?

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:23 am

Fotu announces today I believe

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:31 am

azcat49 wrote:Fotu announces today I believe

we just reveived a prediction for Fotu at 247sports. This was would be a huge get I think.

TuiTouchdown · Post by **TuiTouchdown** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:04 am

3goggles wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Fotu announces today I believe
we just reveived a prediction for Fotu at 247sports. This was would be a huge get I think.

If that happens, what will we have to complain about?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:05 am

TuiTouchdown wrote:
3goggles wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Fotu announces today I believe
we just reveived a prediction for Fotu at 247sports. This was would be a huge get I think.
If that happens, what will we have to complain about?

dmjcat

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:22 am

TuiTouchdown wrote:
3goggles wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Fotu announces today I believe
we just reveived a prediction for Fotu at 247sports. This was would be a huge get I think.
If that happens, what will we have to complain about?

what ever crap ASUHATER is spewing from his mouth!

ANGCatFan · Post by **ANGCatFan** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:17 am

That leaves Dane Cruikshank (JC) CB, Citrus CC, and Timmy Hamilton (JC) DE, Coffeyville CC still to sign today.

Happy JUCO NLI Day to everyone!

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:02 am

Welcome aboard Anthony Fotu! Now we're talking!

ANGCatFan · Post by **ANGCatFan** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:07 am

HaCats · Post by **HaCats** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:20 am

2 to play 2......or 3 to play 2? Anyone know?

ANGCatFan · Post by **ANGCatFan** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:59 am

Official site story on the 3 Juco signing today says all 3 have 2 years of eligibility remaining.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:05 pm

ANGCatFan wrote:Official site story on the 3 Juco signing today says all 3 have 2 years of eligibility remaining.

I think HaCats is asking if any still have a redshirt year available. (3 to play 2)

ANGCatFan · Post by **ANGCatFan** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:10 pm

I understand. When that is the case the release usually says he has 3 to play 2. For all of these guys it just says they have 2 years left to play.

ANGCatFan · Post by **ANGCatFan** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:15 pm

I am guessing that (last OKG of the day) means that Dane Cruikshank and Timmy Hamilton will not be signing now and won't arrive until this summer.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:24 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:
ANGCatFan wrote:Official site story on the 3 Juco signing today says all 3 have 2 years of eligibility remaining.
I think HaCats is asking if any still have a redshirt year available. (3 to play 2)

Magloire spent 2 years at App State so at least he already used his redshirt and will only have 2 to play 2.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:48 pm

ANGCatFan wrote:I understand. When that is the case the release usually says he has 3 to play 2. For all of these guys it just says they have 2 years left to play.

I've never seen UofA post it that way - seems like something you usually see on message boards and from the insiders.
I heard Fotu has 3 to play 2 (but most likely won't redshirt).

azthrillhouse · Post by **azthrillhouse** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:35 pm

You would think Magloire and Fotu would be likely to play right away (not necessarily start, but seems like both would be competing for PT). Would Morin? Sounds like he's not even 100% sure to end up as a TE.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:56 pm

azthrillhouse wrote:You would think Magloire and Fotu would be likely to play right away (not necessarily start, but seems like both would be competing for PT). Would Morin? Sounds like he's not even 100% sure to end up as a TE.

Since he's a former QB as well as a TE. I think he could end up anywhere within the receiving corps.

best radio voice...
"...Flea flicker to the Slot Morin...Morin Looks down field to throw, and finds Soloman wide open for an 80 yard TD!!"

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:41 pm

Really excited about Fotu. 6'4", 285? Sign me UP!

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:21 pm

Looks like the UA is out of the running for the big DT from Chicago:

http://iowa.scout.com/story/1493548-wil ... o-iowa-msu

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:47 pm

dmjcat wrote:Looks like the UA is out of the running for the big DT from Chicago:

http://iowa.scout.com/story/1493548-wil ... o-iowa-msu

Well landing Fotu softens the blow but he wouldve been a great pickup

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:51 pm

Cats looking at big DB from New Jersey:

http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/art ... e-clayton/

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:54 am

Not really sure we're in need for another DB. McGInnis and Reed is what we need

boat343 · Post by **boat343** » Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:22 pm

I think we're in need for quality DBs. We absolutely take that kid if we can get him. I'd say we're pretty set at LB. And, how realistic is McGinnis anyway? And isn't Reed to Stanford pretty much a forgone conclusion?

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:44 pm

We need another Bondurant, playmakers galore on defense. Hoping Parks becomes that guy next year aside Scooby

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:07 am

boat343 wrote: And isn't Reed to Stanford pretty much a forgone conclusion?

Really sucks to say this, but blowing Dedrick Young's recruitment puts unnecessary pressure on recruiting Reid. Wouldn't suddenly NEED Reid otherwise.

The Ooh Aah Man · Post by **The Ooh Aah Man** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:55 pm

CatsbyAZ wrote:
boat343 wrote: And isn't Reed to Stanford pretty much a forgone conclusion?
Really sucks to say this, but blowing Dedrick Young's recruitment puts unnecessary pressure on recruiting Reid. Wouldn't suddenly NEED Reid otherwise.

Magloire is going to fill the roll of Bondurant. Parks will play a huge role in the secondary. I think Tellas Jones has a big year.

Not too worried about missing out on Young. LB and WR will be our two deepest positions next year. And we are very young at LB which means we don't need a ton of them in this class. We have two LB's already in this class and are in the running to add one more. if they don't add another, it won't be that big of a deal.

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:30 pm

We have a very good young group of linebackers. I like our DB's too. People don't realize including the greyshirts were bringing in 7 DB's.. that's a lot and unless he's a real talent I'd rather shore up our LB's or Dline.

TuiTouchdown · Post by **TuiTouchdown** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:13 pm

catinfl wrote:We have a very good young group of linebackers. I like our DB's too. People don't realize including the greyshirts were bringing in 7 DB's.. that's a lot and unless he's a real talent I'd rather shore up our LB's or Dline.

Also McCall was a RS Freshman who started for us. Sure he made freshman mistakes, but he'll just improve and be great for us when he's a Senior.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:53 am

TuiTouchdown wrote:
catinfl wrote:We have a very good young group of linebackers. I like our DB's too. People don't realize including the greyshirts were bringing in 7 DB's.. that's a lot and unless he's a real talent I'd rather shore up our LB's or Dline.
Also McCall was a RS Freshman who started for us. Sure he made freshman mistakes, but he'll just improve and be great for us when he's a Senior.

And we Cam who was a true freshman and will develop this offseason!

Abrahamarvel · Post by **Abrahamarvel** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:59 am

What happened to Holiday? Thought he could be good, but a little too small maybe?

TuiTouchdown · Post by **TuiTouchdown** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:02 am

Abrahamarvel wrote:What happened to Holiday? Thought he could be good, but a little too small maybe?

If I remember correctly he played a fair amount this year. Had a pick, I think. Should be firmly in the rotation next year.

Footballjunkie · Post by **Footballjunkie** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:32 pm

Do the recruits ever get re-evaluated by the services?
What I am asking is if I am a "Two Star" in my Junior year of HS am I always going to be a two star?

What if I lead the state and Nation in TD's, tackles, or Interceptions my Senior year because my Jr year in HS I was injured or just learning the game.
I mean if RichRod, Michigan, Florida, USC, Washington, and Alabama are recruiting me, doesn't my number of "stars" change?

Also, will any of our current recruits get an additional star since the HS seasons are over.
I think one of our recruits lead his team to the LA state title and was the Player of the year (POY).

Its a crime if he isn't going to get another star, making him a 4 star?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:35 pm

They get re-evaluated all the time. Mostly it's to drop a star if they consider us or gain a star if the SEC is calling.

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