Bear Down Wildcats

azcat49 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:03 am Anthony Simpson declared for the portal this morning. Going to be more after graduation

azcat49 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:47 am When I see a WR leave us I don’t worry much. Very deep position just like RB on our roster. Besides, with having two 1000 yard receivers this past year, I am sure we can get a quality transfer or good freshman (and we still have Jones and Greene)

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:40 pm Once an athlete enters the portal, then the school no longer has the responsibility to honor their scholarship.

I'd pull them all. Either you want to be a Wildcat or you don't. Looking for a better offer just won't cut it.

dmjcat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:53 pm Biggins put in a crystal ball for AZ

azcat49 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:11 pm 5 star LB and we are doing very well with S’ua. Get some D Line transfers and maybe Fisch and staff can turn that defense around like the offense

azcat49 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:16 pm It was Flowe I was talking about. I saw somewhere he was referred as a 5 star by at least one service

dmjcat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:25 pm This one hurts

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:04 pmBarrs?

CopaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:13 am

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:04 pmBarrs?

Yes, Barrs. Kind of dropped off a scosch this year without Dr Blitz creating 1 on 1 situations with his blitz packages. Would probably have been a bit more effective with a more aggressive D scheme(could be why he is transferring?).

Barrs better watch out with USC though. Big risk/reward transferring upward after a mediocre year in comparison to expectations(went from 5 sacks to 0) Could get recruited over in a program like that. Might have found better NFL aspirations at Zona depending on how his competition/scheme on the Trojans pans out.

We are really thin on the D Line without Barrs, Wilson, and Shand. Also losing Echols and Harris. Desperately need several big transfer portal gets along that line to mitigate those losses and hopefully improve.

azcat49 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:40 pm Oh nice. If it’s a package deal that’s even better

azgreg wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:48 amSinger to USC.

dmjcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:29 pm The college transfer portal is out of control........its Pro free agency on steroids.

Unfortunately, I don't see a way to put the Genie back in the bottle anytime soon

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 am

CopaCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:07 pm

dmjcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:29 pm The college transfer portal is out of control........its Pro free agency on steroids.

Unfortunately, I don't see a way to put the Genie back in the bottle anytime soon

This is what all the "fairness" people wanted. Apparently a Scholarship to get an education and rep the school you commit to just isn't enough with these new generations of spoiled humans. Look at Singer. Guy was a walk on here, Jedd gives him a scholarship(deservedly so) and then he leaves to a hated rival in conference for NIL money. Fantastic system.

Gotta love the skills we are teaching our young kids now. Love money over teammates and school. Loyalty? Only to one's self. Great character building concepts that will definitely lead to a better world in the future. AMirite?

The overall fairness of this concept is flawed too. Especially as NIL is applied to lower tiered players. Is it fair to them? Is it fair that many who are going to benefit the most from NIL are the guys that have Pro Aspirations in the first place? How is that even remotely fair and how does that lead to an improved College Athletic experience?

Oh, but the rich greedy networks and schools are making so much money off these kids. That isn't fair and that is why we need NIL now now now. Right? Lol

How about scrapping NIL and going to a profit/donation sharing system that is evenly distributed amongst ALL athletes at a school. No outside influences allowed except donations directly to the school that can then be evenly distributed to the athletes. Wouldn't that make a bit more sense if we are indeed concerned about fairness? The big men on campus can make their big money when they turn pro. All athletes get paid evenly in spite of ones better ability over another(afterall they are all sacrificing their bodies the same).

Something has got to be better than this utter travesty we have now. Amateurism is so far dead that we might as well just scrap the whole concept of college athletics and just turn these colleges into minor league sports franchises. Just completely get rid if the education portion of the commitment. Not like many of these athletes are there for the degree anyway.

ASUHATER! wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:24 pm

CopaCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:07 pm

dmjcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:29 pm The college transfer portal is out of control........its Pro free agency on steroids.

Unfortunately, I don't see a way to put the Genie back in the bottle anytime soon

This is what all the "fairness" people wanted. Apparently a Scholarship to get an education and rep the school you commit to just isn't enough with these new generations of spoiled humans. Look at Singer. Guy was a walk on here, Jedd gives him a scholarship(deservedly so) and then he leaves to a hated rival in conference for NIL money. Fantastic system.

Gotta love the skills we are teaching our young kids now. Love money over teammates and school. Loyalty? Only to one's self. Great character building concepts that will definitely lead to a better world in the future. AMirite?

The overall fairness of this concept is flawed too. Especially as NIL is applied to lower tiered players. Is it fair to them? Is it fair that many who are going to benefit the most from NIL are the guys that have Pro Aspirations in the first place? How is that even remotely fair and how does that lead to an improved College Athletic experience?

Oh, but the rich greedy networks and schools are making so much money off these kids. That isn't fair and that is why we need NIL now now now. Right? Lol

How about scrapping NIL and going to a profit/donation sharing system that is evenly distributed amongst ALL athletes at a school. No outside influences allowed except donations directly to the school that can then be evenly distributed to the athletes. Wouldn't that make a bit more sense if we are indeed concerned about fairness? The big men on campus can make their big money when they turn pro. All athletes get paid evenly in spite of ones better ability over another(afterall they are all sacrificing their bodies the same).

Something has got to be better than this utter travesty we have now. Amateurism is so far dead that we might as well just scrap the whole concept of college athletics and just turn these colleges into minor league sports franchises. Just completely get rid if the education portion of the commitment. Not like many of these athletes are there for the degree anyway.

What a whiny spoiled boomer mess of a post.

ASUHATER! wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:11 pm Don't have to be a boomer to act like one. Athletes now finally are not being treated like indentured servants.

CopaCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:07 pm

dmjcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:29 pm The college transfer portal is out of control........its Pro free agency on steroids.

Unfortunately, I don't see a way to put the Genie back in the bottle anytime soon

This is what all the "fairness" people wanted. Apparently a Scholarship to get an education and rep the school you commit to just isn't enough with these new generations of spoiled humans. Look at Singer. Guy was a walk on here, Jedd gives him a scholarship(deservedly so) and then he leaves to a hated rival in conference for NIL money. Fantastic system.

Gotta love the skills we are teaching our young kids now. Love money over teammates and school. Loyalty? Only to one's self. Great character building concepts that will definitely lead to a better world in the future. AMirite?

The overall fairness of this concept is flawed too. Especially as NIL is applied to lower tiered players. Is it fair to them? Is it fair that many who are going to benefit the most from NIL are the guys that have Pro Aspirations in the first place? How is that even remotely fair and how does that lead to an improved College Athletic experience?

Oh, but the rich greedy networks and schools are making so much money off these kids. That isn't fair and that is why we need NIL now now now. Right? Lol

How about scrapping NIL and going to a profit/donation sharing system that is evenly distributed amongst ALL athletes at a school. No outside influences allowed except donations directly to the school that can then be evenly distributed to the athletes. Wouldn't that make a bit more sense if we are indeed concerned about fairness? The big men on campus can make their big money when they turn pro. All athletes get paid evenly in spite of ones better ability over another(afterall they are all sacrificing their bodies the same).

Something has got to be better than this utter travesty we have now. Amateurism is so far dead that we might as well just scrap the whole concept of college athletics and just turn these colleges into minor league sports franchises. Just completely get rid if the education portion of the commitment. Not like many of these athletes are there for the degree anyway.

CopaCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:07 pm

dmjcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:29 pm The college transfer portal is out of control........its Pro free agency on steroids.

Unfortunately, I don't see a way to put the Genie back in the bottle anytime soon

This is what all the "fairness" people wanted. Apparently a Scholarship to get an education and rep the school you commit to just isn't enough with these new generations of spoiled humans. Look at Singer. Guy was a walk on here, Jedd gives him a scholarship(deservedly so) and then he leaves to a hated rival in conference for NIL money. Fantastic system.

Gotta love the skills we are teaching our young kids now. Love money over teammates and school. Loyalty? Only to one's self. Great character building concepts that will definitely lead to a better world in the future. AMirite?

The overall fairness of this concept is flawed too. Especially as NIL is applied to lower tiered players. Is it fair to them? Is it fair that many who are going to benefit the most from NIL are the guys that have Pro Aspirations in the first place? How is that even remotely fair and how does that lead to an improved College Athletic experience?

Oh, but the rich greedy networks and schools are making so much money off these kids. That isn't fair and that is why we need NIL now now now. Right? Lol

How about scrapping NIL and going to a profit/donation sharing system that is evenly distributed amongst ALL athletes at a school. No outside influences allowed except donations directly to the school that can then be evenly distributed to the athletes. Wouldn't that make a bit more sense if we are indeed concerned about fairness? The big men on campus can make their big money when they turn pro. All athletes get paid evenly in spite of ones better ability over another(afterall they are all sacrificing their bodies the same).

Something has got to be better than this utter travesty we have now. Amateurism is so far dead that we might as well just scrap the whole concept of college athletics and just turn these colleges into minor league sports franchises. Just completely get rid if the education portion of the commitment. Not like many of these athletes are there for the degree anyway.

Fishclamps wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:08 pm Most kids on scholarship fully take advantage of the provided education, how disingenuous.

CopaCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:19 pm

Fishclamps wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:08 pm Most kids on scholarship fully take advantage of the provided education, how disingenuous.

You are right. Most actually do. Some of the NIL darlings might not, but the vast majority of athletes do.

I suppose I will just have to get used to college free agency. It just seems crazy to me. To go from absolutely no benefits to an outright Wild West scenario just seems short sighted. Many schools do already have donation sharing collectives and I have no problems with those as money is evenly distributed amongst the athletes(in most cases). To me the issue is the outside money/product(to select athletes) and schools tampering more with the lax rules. Welcome to the NCFL.

azcat49 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:23 am Bohls might have been the highest rates Sumlin recruit in that last class and ge never got close to playing. Is there any players in that class recruiting by Sumlin still here? (Guys like Taylor and Simpson were late adds by Fisch).

tgrumpy2 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:13 am

CopaCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:19 pm

Fishclamps wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:08 pm Most kids on scholarship fully take advantage of the provided education, how disingenuous.

You are right. Most actually do. Some of the NIL darlings might not, but the vast majority of athletes do.

I suppose I will just have to get used to college free agency. It just seems crazy to me. To go from absolutely no benefits to an outright Wild West scenario just seems short sighted. Many schools do already have donation sharing collectives and I have no problems with those as money is evenly distributed amongst the athletes(in most cases). To me the issue is the outside money/product(to select athletes) and schools tampering more with the lax rules. Welcome to the NCFL.

50 percent of college football players do not get their degree. That percentage is actually better than the other major sports of basketball and baseball. It's a real shame because I loved your use of the word disingenuous.

• Graduation Rate Within 4 Years 49.7%

• Graduation Rate Within 5 Years 61.5%

• Graduation Rate Within 6 Years 64.2%

• Women 68.8%

• Men 59.4%

• White 65.7%

• Black african-american 54.7%

• Hispanic 59.7%

• Asian 72.5%

• American Indian or Alaskan Native 34.3%

• Race-ethnicity Unknown 69.8%

• Non-resident alien 72.3%