Bear Down Wildcats

CalStateTempe wrote:

97cats wrote:if he doesnt practice and practice well doing so without limitation and range at full speed he 100% shouldnt play.

This. There is physiology and healing that needs to take place that is independent of conditioning, muscle mass, motivation, etc. I'm not an orthopod, but anything less then 3 weeks for this type of condition is a set up for reinjury, in general.

Then again people arnt textbooks and Scooby maybe an outlier. Interested to see what his, his coaches, and his medical team decide.

UAEebs86 wrote:Per Scheer, Gimino, and others on Twitter, Scooby is running with the first team D at practice today.

scumdevils86 wrote:

MrBug708 wrote:Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury

you're so good at the backhanded twat behavior.

MrBug708 wrote:Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury

dc4azcats wrote:

MrBug708 wrote:Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury

Because we all know that the coaches are the first ones who have say over that kind of stuff? Because no doubt RR isn't concerned about liability or anything like that - stay with me on this Bug, but that's why they have trainers and a Doc on the sidelines. Because RR doesn't have the time to go check on each every player to see if he has a tummy ache or a concussion. Nice effort.

MrBug708 wrote:

dc4azcats wrote:

MrBug708 wrote:Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury

Because we all know that the coaches are the first ones who have say over that kind of stuff? Because no doubt RR isn't concerned about liability or anything like that - stay with me on this Bug, but that's why they have trainers and a Doc on the sidelines. Because RR doesn't have the time to go check on each every player to see if he has a tummy ache or a concussion. Nice effort.

Catch up, we are way past that

ASUHATER! wrote:

MrBug708 wrote:

dc4azcats wrote:

MrBug708 wrote:Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury

Because we all know that the coaches are the first ones who have say over that kind of stuff? Because no doubt RR isn't concerned about liability or anything like that - stay with me on this Bug, but that's why they have trainers and a Doc on the sidelines. Because RR doesn't have the time to go check on each every player to see if he has a tummy ache or a concussion. Nice effort.

Catch up, we are way past that

Past you being a turd? Nope. Basically what you said was completely wrong and very turd ish.

Fishclamps wrote:Win or lose it'll be nice when this week is over...

chiefzona wrote:

Fishclamps wrote:Win or lose it'll be nice when this week is over...

The worst part of the big game is the build up.

chiefzona wrote:

Fishclamps wrote:Win or lose it'll be nice when this week is over...

The worst part of the big game is the build up.

Fishclamps wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Fishclamps wrote:Win or lose it'll be nice when this week is over...

The worst part of the big game is the build up.

Yeah by Saturday half the people on these forums are gonna be looking to kill each other.

Chicat wrote:Scooby is going to pull a Willis Reed.

chiefzona wrote:

Fishclamps wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Fishclamps wrote:Win or lose it'll be nice when this week is over...

The worst part of the big game is the build up.

Yeah by Saturday half the people on these forums are gonna be looking to kill each other.

That already happened on a pay for nothing board. This board will be fine. It's all good.

Fishclamps wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Fishclamps wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

Fishclamps wrote:Win or lose it'll be nice when this week is over...

The worst part of the big game is the build up.

Yeah by Saturday half the people on these forums are gonna be looking to kill each other.

That already happened on a pay for nothing board. This board will be fine. It's all good.

While the death of the rivals board was sad, much popcorn was had reading it in it's death throes.

Merkin wrote:Injury has to be season ending in order to get a medical redshirt.

Merkin wrote:Injury has to be season ending in order to get a medical redshirt.

the real dill wrote:

Merkin wrote:Injury has to be season ending in order to get a medical redshirt.

Interesting decision. Show you are healthy for the draft by playing last couple weeks and/or bowl, or do you risk another injury by coming back?

CalStateTempe wrote:He shouldnt have played against ucla, IMO.

the real dill wrote:

Merkin wrote:Injury has to be season ending in order to get a medical redshirt.

Interesting decision. Show you are healthy for the draft by playing last couple weeks and/or bowl, or do you risk another injury by coming back?

Merkin wrote:

the real dill wrote:

Merkin wrote:Injury has to be season ending in order to get a medical redshirt.

Interesting decision. Show you are healthy for the draft by playing last couple weeks and/or bowl, or do you risk another injury by coming back?

What did Gronkowski do?

Fell to the second round, but did quite well since then.

I don't follow the NFL, so not sure what the demand is for MLB. What's the best he could get, 3rd round? Maybe drop to 4th if he declares this year unless he does really well at the combines.

97cats wrote:i will pound this drum forever and ever and ever -- regardless of what Dr decides (whether to clear a player or not) or what training staff says is standard protocol, rushing a player(s) back from injury (especially back, knee, neck, foot, ankle, shoulder, etc.) puts unwanted stress and pressure on the rest of the body, and is almost always totally counterproductive to immediate performance on the field.

in addition, conditioning and/or lack there of makes 'said' rushed player back ultra susceptible to further complications (new and old) and potentially stunts full healing and aggravation that can exasperate the down time and in some cases cause permanent damage.

NOTHING can simulate game speed or in game highs and lows like the game itself -- adverse effects almost always derive from a situation where a player is clearly rushed back.

it is ridiculous to think a pool or a bike or even two days of no contact drills can mirror the physical and mental strength it takes to fight through fatigue and exhaustion and still perform at the highest level while protecting the body.

dont f*ck with FITNESS -- almost always zero upside

chiefzona wrote:

97cats wrote:i will pound this drum forever and ever and ever -- regardless of what Dr decides (whether to clear a player or not) or what training staff says is standard protocol, rushing a player(s) back from injury (especially back, knee, neck, foot, ankle, shoulder, etc.) puts unwanted stress and pressure on the rest of the body, and is almost always totally counterproductive to immediate performance on the field.

in addition, conditioning and/or lack there of makes 'said' rushed player back ultra susceptible to further complications (new and old) and potentially stunts full healing and aggravation that can exasperate the down time and in some cases cause permanent damage.

NOTHING can simulate game speed or in game highs and lows like the game itself -- adverse effects almost always derive from a situation where a player is clearly rushed back.

it is ridiculous to think a pool or a bike or even two days of no contact drills can mirror the physical and mental strength it takes to fight through fatigue and exhaustion and still perform at the highest level while protecting the body.

dont f*ck with FITNESS -- almost always zero upside

Are we gonna ignore that our 2nd and 3rd string MLB were both injured? If we had Ippoliitto we would all feel a lot more comfortable with losing Scooby. Injuries have certainly not helped our cause and we do need more talent, but usually you don't have this many injuries to one position.

I completely agree and all it shows is how desperate RR is. Scooby was a non-factor in the game and they still played him 4 quarters. Also, in year 4, there should have been enough depth to not have to play walk ons who wouldn't even sniff the field for Wazzu or Colorado. Gotta have depth. Recruiting needs to get way better.

ASUHATER! wrote:Either way it looks like we won't really see much more of him in his Arizona career. Just a few injury riddled games here and there before he goes pro. Sad ending to his career here.

Salty wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:Either way it looks like we won't really see much more of him in his Arizona career. Just a few injury riddled games here and there before he goes pro. Sad ending to his career here.

To be completely honest, scouts already has him pegged as undersized, unathletic, and slow. Now he's injury prone.

I would be very surprised if he declared for the draft. I'm not sure he's much higher than a 5th rounder.

TuiTouchdown wrote:Injury was on the other leg, right? Doesn't seem like it was an issue of him coming back too early. Sprained ankles happen all the time. And I'm willing to bet the coaches would be way more cautious than we'd be.

PHXCATS wrote:How can so many people tell someone what to do with their body?

when Scooby Wright III said he was ready to play, he allowed his star player to walk onto the field at clearly less than 100 percent.

...The big takeaway for me in this game, is just how casual Rodriguez was with mortgaging the future of his best defensive player.

...To show that Rodriguez is not even thinking about Wright’s future once he moves on, he even suggested that maybe Wright should seek a medical redshirt for this season and come back as a senior. What? Really? Why would you counsel a guy like Wright to give up the NFL to come back and play for your program again, risking even more injury?

...Nevertheless, guys like Wright are not wired like that, and they want to get back on the field and help their team as soon as they can. Which is why the team doctors and head coach need to be the mature adults and stop that from happening.

...Real reform is needed by both the NCAA and the NFL, but until that happens, coaches like Rodriguez need to man up and put the needs of their players above winning at all costs.