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Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 2:20 pm
by AV8RCAT
If the examples of Fisch's bad coaching are so obvious to Madden players etc, I have to ask if an experienced coach really doesn't know basics or is there something else in play.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 2:40 pm
by Chicat
If being a head coach was easy, they wouldn’t pay people millions of dollars to do it. And with that paycheck will come criticism. I’m sure Jedd looked at film during the week after losses and thought “We should have run ____ instead.” Every coach does.

If Jedd Fisch were to tell me that he made the right call 100% of the time last year and the players just sucked and didn’t execute, I’d tell him he was full of shit and deserved to be nowhere near a football sideline. It’s his job to put the players in the best position to succeed by coaching them up Sunday through Friday and then calling the best plays with the best chance of success at the right times on Saturday. We only won 1 game and needed an assist from a global pandemic to get that. There is just no way there isn’t room for improvement amongst the coaches.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 3:01 pm
by AV8RCAT
Chicat wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 2:40 pm If being a head coach was easy, they wouldn’t pay people millions of dollars to do it. And with that paycheck will come criticism. I’m sure Jedd looked at film during the week after losses and thought “We should have run ____ instead.” Every coach does.

If Jedd Fisch were to tell me that he made the right call 100% of the time last year and the players just sucked and didn’t execute, I’d tell him he was full of shit and deserved to be nowhere near a football sideline. It’s his job to put the players in the best position to succeed by coaching them up Sunday through Friday and then calling the best plays with the best chance of success at the right times on Saturday. We only won 1 game and needed an assist from a global pandemic to get that. There is just no way there isn’t room for improvement amongst the coaches.
Really, I'd have to ask him, say "Why did you call a screen on that play? He might give a reason why he thought it might work or he might say "the wrong play got relayed. I meant to call blah, blah"
If he is 1/2 as knowledgable as you would expect any coach to be, these things should improve in year 2.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:01 pm
by BBQ wildcat
AV8RCAT wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 3:01 pm
Chicat wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 2:40 pm If being a head coach was easy, they wouldn’t pay people millions of dollars to do it. And with that paycheck will come criticism. I’m sure Jedd looked at film during the week after losses and thought “We should have run ____ instead.” Every coach does.

If Jedd Fisch were to tell me that he made the right call 100% of the time last year and the players just sucked and didn’t execute, I’d tell him he was full of shit and deserved to be nowhere near a football sideline. It’s his job to put the players in the best position to succeed by coaching them up Sunday through Friday and then calling the best plays with the best chance of success at the right times on Saturday. We only won 1 game and needed an assist from a global pandemic to get that. There is just no way there isn’t room for improvement amongst the coaches.
Really, I'd have to ask him, say "Why did you call a screen on that play? He might give a reason why he thought it might work or he might say "the wrong play got relayed. I meant to call blah, blah"
If he is 1/2 as knowledgable as you would expect any coach to be, these things should improve in year 2.

"should" being the operative word. I don't think there was any, or at least not much, improvement over the course of last year. A lot of us are in the "show me" stage. Or, I'll believe it when (if) I see it.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:40 pm
by Merkin
He really needs to listen to his assistants. Those head scratching plays most certainly had to bring some comments from them.

Can't imagine Fisch is like KO where assistants are just there to hold the clipboard. Carroll for one probably wouldn't stand for that, although this will be just his 2nd season as OC.

Same with Dougherty as QB coach.

Fisch does wear a headset for a reason.

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Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 4:45 am
by azcat49
CFN article on the season projecting 4 wins. Not a bad read

https://collegefootballnews.com/2022/05 ... es-players

Arizona Regular Season Win Total

BetOnline Win Total: 2.5

CFN 2022 Win Total Projection, Spring: 4

CFN 2021 Win Total Projection: 3

BetMGM 2021 Win Total Line: 2.5

2021 Final Regular Season Win Total: 1

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Head Coach: Jedd Fisch, 2nd year at Arizona, 1-11
2nd year overall, 2-12
2021 Record: Overall: 1-11, Conference: 1-8
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Baby steps.

Jedd Fisch had a complete overhaul to do when he took over as the head coach last season, and it started by trying play defense again at the University of Arizona.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:57 am
by Merkin
azcat49 wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 4:45 am CFN article on the season projecting 4 wins. Not a bad read

https://collegefootballnews.com/2022/05 ... es-players

and the red zone defense was the worst in college football

I thought the red zone offense was the worst ever in recorded history?


Looking it up, UA football was dead last in red zone defense. https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs ... eam/704/p3

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:23 am
by Chicat
Merkin wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 7:57 am
azcat49 wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 4:45 am CFN article on the season projecting 4 wins. Not a bad read

https://collegefootballnews.com/2022/05 ... es-players
and the red zone defense was the worst in college football

I thought the red zone offense was the worst ever in recorded history?


Looking it up, UA football was dead last in red zone defense. https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs ... eam/704/p3
We let teams score so we could get the ball back and then march down the field, get within the opponent’s twenty, and then puke all over ourselves. Brilliant strategy. Worked every time.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 12:13 pm
by UAEebs86

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 12:44 pm
by Merkin
At least no one will see them lose.


You are one of the worst teams in FBS, so you end up with the late starts and worst TV stations.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 2:25 pm
by AzCatFan2
I absolutely abhor the 8 pm starts. Living in Gilbert, the 8 pm starts don't even allow me to stay through halftime and get back by midnight. And I'm sure there are locals with kids who feel a similar way. For a school that struggles with attendance, these 8 pm starts don't help. And honestly, it's one reason I would never consider buying season tickets. Too many games I just can't make.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 2:34 pm
by EastCoastCat
AzCatFan2 wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 2:25 pm I absolutely abhor the 8 pm starts. Living in Gilbert, the 8 pm starts don't even allow me to stay through halftime and get back by midnight. And I'm sure there are locals with kids who feel a similar way. For a school that struggles with attendance, these 8 pm starts don't help. And honestly, it's one reason I would never consider buying season tickets. Too many games I just can't make.
Sorry, I have no sympathy for this post.

:P

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 2:51 pm
by ASUHATER!
God 8 pm are the worst. I live in Tucson and I can't make it past the start of the 3rd quarter for those games

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 2:52 pm
by azcat49
AzCatFan2 wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 2:25 pm I absolutely abhor the 8 pm starts. Living in Gilbert, the 8 pm starts don't even allow me to stay through halftime and get back by midnight. And I'm sure there are locals with kids who feel a similar way. For a school that struggles with attendance, these 8 pm starts don't help. And honestly, it's one reason I would never consider buying season tickets. Too many games I just can't make.
Very much agree with this. Coming from the Phoenix area you are forced to get a hotel and stay the night. You can take the cat bud down but that makes for a really long day but it’s pretty fun but if it’s a blow out you have to wait for the game to end and an 8pm gane won’t end until 11:30 at best.

Just a shame our TV time slots are so bad. Amazing we can’t get a 6pm slot for a PAC/SEC match up

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 2:58 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Merkin wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 12:44 pm At least no one will see them lose.


You are one of the worst teams in FBS, so you end up with the late starts and worst TV stations.
Miss St isn't a terrible loss, just a reminder we could have gone after Mike Leach post-Stoops.

NDSU...I hope we win but there's a high chance it's better Fisch's 2nd straight L to a non-D1 team is buried.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 3:41 pm
by Merkin
Spaceman Spiff wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 2:58 pm Miss St isn't a terrible loss, just a reminder we could have gone after Mike Leach post-Stoops.
Agree with that 100%. The thing with the shed was pretty bad, but just keep him on a short leash with no 2nd chances, and that then being fired for cause.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 5:02 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 5:02 pm
by azgreg
Arizona – Didius Julianus: Julianus is probably one of the most insignificant emperors in the history of the empire. After the Praetorian Guard (the personal bodyguards for Roman emperors) killed the preceding emperor Pertinax, the Guard put the throne up for bid. Julianus made the highest offer at 25,000 sesterces and the Guard proclaimed him Augustus. The problem was, Julianus didn’t actually have the money. So after 5 weeks of not getting paid, the Guard killed him too. A truly ignominious end. He accomplished nothing in office, did nothing important, and was otherwise so inconsequential that he likely would have been lost to history if not for this obvious blunder. But in spite of all this, he still gets to be counted as a Roman emperor. I think you all can see where this is going. Despite being a member of the PAC since 1978 Arizona has never played in the Rose Bowl. Really, their tenure in the league has been a whole lot of nothing. And they’ve had way longer to accomplish nothing than Julianus. Yet in spite of this whole heap of nothingness, Arizona still gets to claim to be a "P5 team".

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 4:15 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:03 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:08 pm
by azgreg
84Cat wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 9:41 pm

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:18 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:46 pm
by azgreg
SDSU's new stadium is coming along nicely.


Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:12 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:23 am
by azgreg
We opened at +11.5 and it is now +5.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:39 am
by azgreg

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:26 am
by ANGCatFan
I hope the PAC12 comes off easily.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:01 am
by TheCatInTheHat
ANGCatFan wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:26 am I hope the PAC12 comes off easily.
Boom! :lol:

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:02 am
by CatsbyAZ
This week I'm buying tickets for the Wildcat's Sept 10 homegame Vs Mississippi State. Who knows, with how speculatively chaotic conference realignments are, maybe this'll preview a future conference foe?

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:20 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:19 pm
by azcat49
College Football news has gone out with its team rankings and we come in at #70

70 Arizona

Player You Need to Know: Jacob Cowing, WR Jr.

Season Opener: at San Diego State

2022 Preseason Prediction: 3-9

2021 Record: 1-11 2021 CFN Prediction: 2-10

2021 CFN Preseason Rank: 72 2021 CFN Final Rank: 86

https://collegefootballnews.com/2022/07 ... -teams/amp

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 4:08 pm
by TheCatInTheHat
Regardless of whatever league we'll be playing in when 2024 rolls around, a reminder of some of the less than ideal aspects of the Pac is available daily on the Pac-12 Networks. The whole thing is driven by football media rights, but as I sit during the off-season looking for something to watch, the regional nets are airing (LA:) women's water polo, (Arizona:) women's gymnastics, (Washington:) women's softball, (Oregon:) women's volleyball, (Mountain:) women's gymnastics, (Bay Area:) women's gymnastics. I'm willing to pay Spectrum for that stuff, partly due to some of the other sports available in that tier. But, as has been beaten to death, many people won't, so it hurts in terms of exposure. I enjoy women's sports a great deal, but only if it's live. When we're looking forward to Pac-12 football media day in one week and the training camps starting within a month, the only non-live sport I want to watch is a review of last season's football and a look ahead to the coming season. Or even a talking head panel discussion about the current situation. But, if you're going to show a smorgasbord of sports that don't draw well or get big ratings, you might as well show infomercials for air fryers and beauty products. But, that's where the presidents are at, so that's what we've got. On the Arizona channel, old programming seems to cater to the Phoenix audience, with what sure looks like somebody works pretty hard to cherry-pick a lot of ASU wins and Arizona losses across the board in all sports (even pre-dating our most recent 4-year 10-31 football mess.) Even under the best of circumstances, live coverage is typically the lesser games and the minor sports. Whether or not we're going to continue in the Pac in some form, they need to ash-can the regional nets and have a single, well-produced network to showcase the league without all the junk. Then, mandate that all schools stream their home games for non-network telecast men's and women's hoops, baseball and softball, and make access to each available for a single reasonable subscription price so you get all of your team's games. (I'm assuming a single conference network can schedule and broadcast all league football games not picked up by bigger networks.) It's pretty common-sense stuff, but apparently common sense isn't a pre-requisite for being a college president.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:59 am
by RichardCranium

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:26 pm
by dmjcat

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:54 pm
by AzCatFan2
Hard to say anything bad about what Fisch has done off the field so far. On the field? Different story. Still gets a pass this year in regards to W/L record, but we need to see improvement between the lines. Closer games, smart decisions in terms of play calling, and 60 minutes of fighting like Wildcats. Show improvements on the field, and then I'll start to get excited over Arizona Football again.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:41 pm
by dmjcat

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:20 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:56 pm
by OSUCat
azgreg wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:20 pm
One week until start of preseason.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:39 pm
by Merkin
Vegas says 2.5 wins. Now is the time to put your money down.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-fo ... in-totals/

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:57 pm
by azcat49
I’m heavy on the over. Hopefully a good holiday season for gifts!

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:00 pm
by azgreg
Merkin wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:39 pm Vegas says 2.5 wins. Now is the time to put your money down.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-fo ... in-totals/
I already have.

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Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:49 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:51 pm
by OSUCat
I’m just getting caught up on spring ball. Is Jayden de Laura the starter?

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:57 pm
by Merkin
OSUCat wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:51 pm I’m just getting caught up on spring ball. Is Jayden de Laura the starter?
He was the starter the day he was signed.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:42 am
by gronk4heisman
Merkin wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:39 pm Vegas says 2.5 wins. Now is the time to put your money down.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-fo ... in-totals/
Not near sure enough thing for me to lock up money for 5 months. I may be in the minority but I think that is a pretty good line.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:38 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:46 pm
by azcat49
Very impressive that Oregon St is up to fifth. Smith has done a great job.

We are where you would expect but scum fans have to be elated with their spot

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:59 pm
by Merkin
Vegas Insider has ASU at 5.5 wins. Apparently they have done well in the transfer portal. Big shoes to fill at QB, RB and WR.

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:41 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2022 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:12 pm
by PHXCATS
Let's say there are 12 units on a football team.

1-QB
2-Recievers
3-Tight Ends
4-Running Backs
5-Oline
6-Secondary
7-Linebackets
8-Dline
9-Field Goal Kicking
10-Punting
11-Kickoff Returns
12-Punt Return

U of A is above average (PAC-12 average) in 9 of the 12. Unfortunately the three they are below average on are all in the top 5 of importantance. Oline, Dline, Linebackers. U of A is actually good and has great depth in all the others