ASUHATER! wrote:We've had like 8 game losing collapses in the last minute or two of games this season. Just no fortitude or ability to be clutch at all on this team.
I was in something that got out with 2 min to go listening on radio and totally knew this was gonna happen.
38-16 free throw attempts. PAC 12 should be fucking embarrassed. I hope Miller absolutely goes off after the game.
Don’t drag the argument about play down the stretch. It’s irrelevant. Regardless the outcome, that was an embarrassment by the officials. UCLA plays a style that commits a ton of fouls. That was just brutal.
A well-coached team doesn't go 0-for-the-final-two-minutes while committing nothing but unforced errors in that same stretch.
Nobody is downplaying the FT shooting discrepancy, but this team had every chance to salt away the lead in spite of that. Our offensive execution was just horrific.
Man, it is getting difficult to be optimistic, I seriously think we could lose the next 3 games and go to the nit.
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
-Norlander.
CalStateTempe wrote:Yeah those two turnovers in the last minute we’re totally in the refs hands.
We fucking suck. Thats all there is to it.
Didn’t say we didn’t shit the bed. But a 22 FT disparity in a tight game is a travesty. The conference should be embarrassed.
If we don't want a huge FT disparity then we should STOP fouling. Both Ira and Dylan were foul machines out there tonight. Ira seems to think he is on a rugby team.
The Cats choked this one away......Period. The refs had nothing to do with 3 straight choke-job turnovers.
Dang it, then I'm gonna have to keep this stupid signature that flippin r&f wrote for me last year.
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
-Norlander.
CalStateTempe wrote:Yeah those two turnovers in the last minute we’re totally in the refs hands.
We fucking suck. Thats all there is to it.
Didn’t say we didn’t shit the bed. But a 22 FT disparity in a tight game is a travesty. The conference should be embarrassed.
If we don't want a huge FT disparity then we should STOP fouling. Both Ira and Dylan were foul machines out there tonight. Ira seems to think he is on a rugby team.
The Cats choked this one away......Period. The refs had nothing to do with 3 straight choke-job turnovers.
You’re missing the point. It’s quite possible for the refs to perform terribly and Arizona still be responsible for the loss because of their play. They’re not mutually exclusive.
CalStateTempe wrote:Yeah those two turnovers in the last minute we’re totally in the refs hands.
We fucking suck. Thats all there is to it.
Didn’t say we didn’t shit the bed. But a 22 FT disparity in a tight game is a travesty. The conference should be embarrassed.
If we don't want a huge FT disparity then we should STOP fouling. Both Ira and Dylan were foul machines out there tonight. Ira seems to think he is on a rugby team.
The Cats choked this one away......Period. The refs had nothing to do with 3 straight choke-job turnovers.
You’re missing the point. It’s quite possible for the refs to perform terribly and Arizona still be responsible for the loss because of their play. They’re not mutually exclusive.
I understand your point Zonagrad but when Ira Lee is throwing people around like sacks of rice there isn't much the refs can do but call fouls. All the talk about the disparity in fouls misses the point that we FOULED them...we fouled the hell out of them. We got out of position, reached, and just committed some REALLY stupid fouls.
CalStateTempe wrote:Sorry dude, I appreciate your opinion, but I don’t live in a world with excuses.
Hahahahahahaha.
What a fucking douchebag comment.
Nothing douchey about it. You can send a tape to the league office and publicly call out the officiating, hell scream until you get fined if you're Miller.
That won't do a thing to change the result on the floor. Nor should it. In the final two minutes, this team plain choked away its lead it held for 30 minutes tonight, regardless of the FTs.
Merkin wrote:Not saying the refs didn't have an impact, they most certainly did. However, the Cats could have still won besides them.
Especially the 3 TOs by our seniors.
I totally agree. That summation of our last possessions shows we just choked. The refs did have an influence but our late game mental flatulence is why we lost.
