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Count me in as 1 of the majority of AZ fans who was ready to move on from Caleb after last year.

I'm so glad he decided to come back.

Instead of being remembered from his abysmal performance vs Clemson... He is now forever in Wildcat royalty and will be remembered for his heroics vs Iowa St and his performance vs Oregon... and hopefully he's not done building his AZ legacy
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Alieberman wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 7:37 am Count me in as 1 of the majority of AZ fans who was ready to move on from Caleb after last year.

I'm so glad he decided to come back.

Instead of being remembered from his abysmal performance vs Clemson... He is now forever in Wildcat royalty and will be remembered for his heroics vs Iowa St and his performance vs Oregon... and hopefully he's not done building his AZ legacy
Same Ari, he’s won me over the second half of this season.
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KJ on Love putting up big numbers against Oregon: “I think he likes going duck hunting.”
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Now do some Duke hunting Caleb.
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Alieberman wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 7:37 am Count me in as 1 of the majority of AZ fans who was ready to move on from Caleb after last year.

I'm so glad he decided to come back.

Instead of being remembered from his abysmal performance vs Clemson... He is now forever in Wildcat royalty and will be remembered for his heroics vs Iowa St and his performance vs Oregon... and hopefully he's not done building his AZ legacy
I just never understood it really. He was voted the conference player of the year by the COACHES in the PAC. Sure he was not consistent and there is certainly that chance again but who would you have brought in that is better? Certainly not a freshman. Maybe there was a transfer that could have been better but not sure I could name who. This year he is first team all big 12 voted by the coaches. Those guys certainly know better than me. Everyone wants a perfect player. There are no perfect players. Everyone wants a perfect coach. Hint there are no perfect coaches. I will settle with ours who many here criticize and he now stands alone as having the second most wins in his first four years in NCAA history. Think about that. He is in a tougher league and has MASSIVELY upgraded our OOC schedule at the same time. There will always be those that profess to know more and maybe they do. I just go by results.
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TheCat wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 11:46 am
Alieberman wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 7:37 am Count me in as 1 of the majority of AZ fans who was ready to move on from Caleb after last year.

I'm so glad he decided to come back.

Instead of being remembered from his abysmal performance vs Clemson... He is now forever in Wildcat royalty and will be remembered for his heroics vs Iowa St and his performance vs Oregon... and hopefully he's not done building his AZ legacy
I just never understood it really. He was voted the conference player of the year by the COACHES in the PAC. Sure he was not consistent and there is certainly that chance again but who would you have brought in that is better? Certainly not a freshman. Maybe there was a transfer that could have been better but not sure I could name who. This year he is first team all big 12 voted by the coaches. Those guys certainly know better than me. Everyone wants a perfect player. There are no perfect players. Everyone wants a perfect coach. Hint there are no perfect coaches. I will settle with ours who many here criticize and he now stands alone as having the second most wins in his first four years in NCAA history. Think about that. He is in a tougher league and has MASSIVELY upgraded our OOC schedule at the same time. There will always be those that profess to know more and maybe they do. I just go by results.
Ahem: you just "go by results", EXCEPT when ADO has good results.,
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TheCat wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 11:46 am
Alieberman wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 7:37 am Count me in as 1 of the majority of AZ fans who was ready to move on from Caleb after last year.

I'm so glad he decided to come back.

Instead of being remembered from his abysmal performance vs Clemson... He is now forever in Wildcat royalty and will be remembered for his heroics vs Iowa St and his performance vs Oregon... and hopefully he's not done building his AZ legacy
I just never understood it really. He was voted the conference player of the year by the COACHES in the PAC. Sure he was not consistent and there is certainly that chance again but who would you have brought in that is better? Certainly not a freshman. Maybe there was a transfer that could have been better but not sure I could name who. This year he is first team all big 12 voted by the coaches. Those guys certainly know better than me. Everyone wants a perfect player. There are no perfect players. Everyone wants a perfect coach. Hint there are no perfect coaches. I will settle with ours who many here criticize and he now stands alone as having the second most wins in his first four years in NCAA history. Think about that. He is in a tougher league and has MASSIVELY upgraded our OOC schedule at the same time. There will always be those that profess to know more and maybe they do. I just go by results.
I never understood it either. We know his failings but he has made huge strides this year with shot selection. If you listen to the players, they absolutely love Caleb and so does Tommy so it's all kind of mute
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pc in NM wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 11:54 am
TheCat wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 11:46 am
Alieberman wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 7:37 am Count me in as 1 of the majority of AZ fans who was ready to move on from Caleb after last year.

I'm so glad he decided to come back.

Instead of being remembered from his abysmal performance vs Clemson... He is now forever in Wildcat royalty and will be remembered for his heroics vs Iowa St and his performance vs Oregon... and hopefully he's not done building his AZ legacy
I just never understood it really. He was voted the conference player of the year by the COACHES in the PAC. Sure he was not consistent and there is certainly that chance again but who would you have brought in that is better? Certainly not a freshman. Maybe there was a transfer that could have been better but not sure I could name who. This year he is first team all big 12 voted by the coaches. Those guys certainly know better than me. Everyone wants a perfect player. There are no perfect players. Everyone wants a perfect coach. Hint there are no perfect coaches. I will settle with ours who many here criticize and he now stands alone as having the second most wins in his first four years in NCAA history. Think about that. He is in a tougher league and has MASSIVELY upgraded our OOC schedule at the same time. There will always be those that profess to know more and maybe they do. I just go by results.
Ahem: you just "go by results", EXCEPT when ADO has good results.,
I'm not sure that was directed to me but while I see he has many defensive liabilities he serves a purpose and I think his defense in the Oregon game was improved and without his shooting we would have probably lost. For all you TT haters, there were two crucial offensive rebounds late in the game and both were snagged by TT and it led to the consecutive 3's shots by Delly. One a miss and the other BINGO.
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The other shot was one I didn't see because I had my eyes closed. A three by KJ. LOL.
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I think the perception on CL has been negative by some fans primarily due to his shot selection.
The guy that he has become in the last month or two is the guy that we thought we were getting 2 years ago.
When he came here last season and said things about wanting more structure, well he didn't seem to play with a lot of structure last season or the first half of this year.
There was also a time , mid season, where he seemed to go the other way and not be aggressive enough on offense.
Lately, he seems to have found his lane. He has taken it to the hoop more, he is a great passer (sometimes too good). He still shoots some illadvised 3s but that is how his brain works. He has also started taking some midrange shots that he can make.
He gives effort on defense.

4 more games!
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Duke played him well in the first game often double teaming/blitzing him. He add a bad night shooting. He might again but I am glad he came back to the Wildcats and I think he has represented himself and his teammates with class. I have never heard him have an interview where he doesn't credit his teammates and coaching staff first. He has been through a lot the past 5 years and whether he ends on a high note or not I will always respect his courage to take the tough shot and his ability to deal with all the criticism. Thanks for coming back Caleb. Bear Down.
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I thought CL played an almost perfect game except for a couple of ball handling gaffs and maybe that embarrassing alley oop.

He was surgical on offense and I didn’t see any heat checks or forced shots. When he got the ball at the top of the key good things happened. We need that CL on Thursday night.
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That alley oop gaffe was all on KJ.
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If Caleb Love can lead us to a victory over Duke tomorrow wouldn’t that be enough to put him over the top for our Ring of Honor or am I off here? He’s already got P12 POY award…..

and lastly, I really enjoy having a player for more than even 2 years these days….BTFD.
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Bangkok Wildcat wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 7:03 pm If Caleb Love can lead us to a victory over Duke tomorrow wouldn’t that be enough to put him over the top for our Ring of Honor or am I off here? He’s already got P12 POY award…..

and lastly, I really enjoy having a player for more than even 2 years these days….BTFD.
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Pac 12 POY is enough to get him in and I'm sure he'll get it regardless of what happens tomorrow. Though I do enjoy that last category where basically anyone can get in if they do something awesome.
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Caleb played his ass off in his final game ever. Looking forward to honoring him in the Ring of Honor ceremony. No one better shit talk this man ever again!
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Caleb played his heart out the past 2 season and got better at defense and passing. I love Love!
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Hell of a Wildcat

You should be proud as fuck!

Now go make some money playing pro ball
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Great end to his AZ career, wish the result was a W as a fan of course!
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It's honestly insane he scored 35 on this Duke team.
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The Caleb Love Experience was a rollercoaster overall, but holy shit did he step up this March. Great Wildcat. He embodied the toughness this team exhibited this year.
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Good luck to Caleb Love and wish him nothing but the best…..he gave his heart to our program for 3 years and played his butt off. Great Wildcat. BTFD Caleb!
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Stud today. Refused to give up and started playing with intention and fire. Wish we had one other player stepped up with him but overall happy with this season
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Wherever you land, you will prosper Caleb. Thank you for being a leader for us.
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“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
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The announcers all season have said that about him., what a great teammate he is. Wish him nothing but the best. Hope he makes bank in Europe or wherever he ends up.
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AZCatGirl wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:29 pm
No disrespect to Love, but that is a misleading stat. Love had 5 years to do that due to the extra Covid year.

Many players in the HOF only had 3 years due to freshmen not being allowed to play, such as Kareem, and no 3 point shot. Anyone hear of Pete Maravich? Also a 3 year player.
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Merkin wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 1:34 am
AZCatGirl wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:29 pm
No disrespect to Love, but that is a misleading stat. Love had 5 years to do that due to the extra Covid year.

Many players in the HOF only had 3 years due to freshmen not being allowed to play, such as Kareem, and no 3 point shot. Anyone hear of Pete Maravich? Also a 3 year player.
Bad timing. Everybody gets that so it’s not some great revelation.

I understand you love referring to the past but today is about celebrating CL’s career and contributions to Arizona basketball.
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I'm so glad CTL landed Caleb through the Potral.

Caleb's Pac-12 POY season was awesome, and he fulfilled his promise.

I'm even happier that Caleb came back for this season - I cheered his return big time at the time!!

I've admired Caleb's floor play and defensive skills, even as other fans and commentators reviled him solely for his shooting.

Watching this young man face adversity, learning of his character, and seeing him, in real time, gain confidence and discipline has been, and is, one of the great features of following collegiate sports.

Some of us were were unnecessarily harsh on him; some were supportive throughout; lot's of hair was pulled out; Many moments of astonishment and thrill were, and will be, cherished; it was a hell of a ride!!! He'll be a favorite alum henceforth!!

Bear Down, Caleb!!!
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I am glad Love ended on a high note. Huge props to him. I confess I thought he needed to be benched early in the year. He took terrible shots, missed them badly and seemed completely disengaged on the court. But he turned it around big time the last two months and he goes down as a great Wildcat. Wish him nothing but the best.
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When they showed him at UNC, I hardly recognized him. He has matured a great deal. Good luck young man.

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cpt wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 8:36 am I am glad Love ended on a high note. Huge props to him. I confess I thought he needed to be benched early in the year. He took terrible shots, missed them badly and seemed completely disengaged on the court. But he turned it around big time the last two months and he goes down as a great Wildcat. Wish him nothing but the best.
Amen. He played intelligently, beginning with the Big 12 tourney; he attacked the rim, took some high percentage runners and looked to bait the opposition into committing fouls.
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cpt wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 8:36 am I am glad Love ended on a high note. Huge props to him. I confess I thought he needed to be benched early in the year. He took terrible shots, missed them badly and seemed completely disengaged on the court. But he turned it around big time the last two months and he goes down as a great Wildcat. Wish him nothing but the best.
Same here - it was a great turnaround throughout the year.

Hope he has success in whatever his next stop is (NBA / Europe etc)

He left it all out there last night
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My favorite player the past 2 seasons. As posted above great to see him go out swinging. Wish we could have put more around him as the dude could definitely be significant part of a legit contender. Hope he enjoyed his time playing for Arizona.
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I wish I knew what his or the coaches’ thought process early in the year was when he was mostly hanging out on the perimeter in one spot waiting for someone to pass him the ball (while ADO or TT or KJ dribbled into traffic and turned it over).

Once he (or the coaches) got it in his head to start demanding the ball and attacking the defense, our whole season turned around.
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Chicat wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:48 am I wish I knew what his or the coaches’ thought process early in the year was when he was mostly hanging out on the perimeter in one spot waiting for someone to pass him the ball (while ADO or TT or KJ dribbled into traffic and turned it over).

Once he (or the coaches) got it in his head to start demanding the ball and attacking the defense, our whole season turned around.
His father told me that he was trying to defer and not over-dominate the ball. Don't know if that was of his own accord or a mandate from the coaching staff.
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Chicat wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:48 am I wish I knew what his or the coaches’ thought process early in the year was when he was mostly hanging out on the perimeter in one spot waiting for someone to pass him the ball (while ADO or TT or KJ dribbled into traffic and turned it over).

Once he (or the coaches) got it in his head to start demanding the ball and attacking the defense, our whole season turned around.
It seemed to me that maybe was a mix of both, I think I remember some snippets from him and CTL saying they were asking him to be more a team player and not hunt as many shots for himself. Perhaps that is why he was playing more passively to let the rest of the team get going.

You are spot on that it took him demanding the ball in key situations and facilitating for himself or the others that things turned around - he had some not great games in there where he was hunting his own shot too much; but overall he was able to rein it in enough to be a great contributor on both ends of the floor.
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I’m all for spreading the ball around … when you have other players who can do something with it. We became so much better when he started needing the ball in his hands. And not just with him scoring. He made great kick-out and interior passes when defenses collapsed on him. But holy shit the last third of the season he was damn near unguardable.
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Can we revoke Goodman's alumni status? Even last night after the game he had against Duke and after Oregon, he is still dogging him saying he doesn't make anyone on the team better, just gets his own.
I'm glad he came back, loved seeing him grow, wish him all the best and thankful for what he gave this program. Don't know who replaces him, I'm sure there isn't one.
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U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:19 am Can we revoke Goodman's alumni status? Even last night after the game he had against Duke and after Oregon, he is still dogging him saying he doesn't make anyone on the team better, just gets his own.
I'm glad he came back, loved seeing him grow, wish him all the best and thankful for what he gave this program. Don't know who replaces him, I'm sure there isn't one.
Goodman is a joke - if that is his narrative from the game last night then not sure what he was watching.

If Love hadn't put the team on his back we would have been blown out by 20+
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I agree, we were a little lost there till he went for 15 straight for us. Really turned the whole team around.
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U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:19 am Can we revoke Goodman's alumni status?
For me that happened as soon as I saw his ESPN bio 15 years ago when he mentioned being a student and suffering through 1st round upsets but made no mention that we won a fucking National Championship his senior year.

Joyless mushmouth fuckstick…
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If you don't think Caleb made his teammates better- you need to watch the post game news conference from after yesterday's game. Actually every Cat fan should watch this.

Henri (and others) have some words for you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfzQweZJrZI
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Alieberman wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:26 am If you don't think Caleb made his teammates better- you need to watch the post game news conference from after yesterday's game. Actually every Cat fan should watch this.

Henri (and others) have some words for you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfzQweZJrZI
It was hard to watch that without tearing up. Caleb's face especially just made you want to cry with how much he was trying to keep it together.

Hope he gets his chance at the NBA. He deserves it. A special young man among a very special group of young men. What a team this was.
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Alieberman wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:26 am If you don't think Caleb made his teammates better- you need to watch the post game news conference from after yesterday's game. Actually every Cat fan should watch this.

Henri (and others) have some words for you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfzQweZJrZI
I agree that is moving and with the criticism he received from his own fan base at UNC and here at Arizona his teammates have nothing but praise. They see and hear the bullshit he receives. While that is a great tribute from V have you seen the Carter Bryant locker room comments? The guy's eyes are filled with tears when talking about him.
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Oh, did Caleb catch some criticism from fans? I don’t think I’ve seen you mention that more than 600 times. New news indeed.
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If you shoe fits. No one is above criticism but was it you that said you didn't want him back or was it someone else? Yes I'm sure your basketball knowledge is beyond compare but I will take the word of the coaches in the PAC and Big 12 and doubt the all knowledgeable nay- sayers.

Chi what new news have you brought in the last 5 years other than complaints about everything. You have changed and maybe you lost your optimism somewhere along the way. Maybe things just have a different hue for you now. Maybe it is me and I just have more hope than most when the chips are down. Maybe I'm too optimistic that we have a coach that will work hard and figure it out. Blind optimism.

This team represented true believe and optimism. Have you heard them talk. "We struggled but we knew we had a good team" when everyone said they didn't. No one quit no one stopped fighting and that is how I will remember this team. Imperfect but embraced the struggle and did their best.
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Re: Caleb Love

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TheCat wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:57 pm No one is above criticism but was it you that said you didn't want him back or was it someone else?
I think this was my only post on the matter.
Chicat wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:03 am Boswell’s defense was subpar. On many of the nights where he was a no-show on offense he was also getting cooked on the defensive end.

If the choice is Love or Boswell, give me Love. But in truth I want to see the kids play. I think the future is brighter the more experience KJ, Krivas, and the freshmen get.
Does that put me on your People To Kill list or take me off?

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TheCat wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:57 pm Chi what new news have you brought in the last 5 years other than complaints about everything.
:lol:

Projection is a defense mechanism where an individual unconsciously attributes their own unacceptable thoughts, feelings, or behaviors to another person or group.”

Can’t wait for your next batch of posts complaining that some people had issues with Caleb’s playing style. I’m sure they’ll be just as useful as all the others.
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Re: Caleb Love

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Chicat wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:55 am
TheCat wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:57 pm No one is above criticism but was it you that said you didn't want him back or was it someone else?
I think this was my only post on the matter.
Chicat wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:03 am Boswell’s defense was subpar. On many of the nights where he was a no-show on offense he was also getting cooked on the defensive end.

If the choice is Love or Boswell, give me Love. But in truth I want to see the kids play. I think the future is brighter the more experience KJ, Krivas, and the freshmen get.
Does that put me on your People To Kill list or take me off?

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TheCat wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:57 pm Chi what new news have you brought in the last 5 years other than complaints about everything.
:lol:

Projection is a defense mechanism where an individual unconsciously attributes their own unacceptable thoughts, feelings, or behaviors to another person or group.”

Can’t wait for your next batch of posts complaining that some people had issues with Caleb’s playing style. I’m sure they’ll be just as useful as all the others.
I “project” Spurs will be Arsenal’s bitch for a long time…
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