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Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:08 pm**

Irish27 wrote:The ESPN ticker said Scooby will be out a month.

That's about right. Ucla might be too soon, unfortunately.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:14 pm**

azcat49 wrote:Can he come back mentally? I l know he has the hard edge but if he was going league you have to wonder how this might affect him

No way can I see this take the edge off his game because he's worrying about the NFL. The dude balls out so hard on every play because he's out to prove something. When he comes back I bet he feels he has even more to prove.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:30 pm**

Fishclamps wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Can he come back mentally? I l know he has the hard edge but if he was going league you have to wonder how this might affect him
No way can I see this take the edge off his game because he's worrying about the NFL. The dude balls out so hard on every play because he's out to prove something. When he comes back I bet he feels he has even more to prove.

My thoughts exactly. I think that attitude will be hugely increased if we drop a game while he's out (hoping not to!)

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:51 pm**

prh wrote:
Fishclamps wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Can he come back mentally? I l know he has the hard edge but if he was going league you have to wonder how this might affect him
No way can I see this take the edge off his game because he's worrying about the NFL. The dude balls out so hard on every play because he's out to prove something. When he comes back I bet he feels he has even more to prove.
My thoughts exactly. I think that attitude will be hugely increased if we drop a game while he's out (hoping not to!)

The one thing I don't worry about is Scooby's mental fortitude.

Dude is a motherfucking warrior.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:52 pm**

Great, I hope you are all right and he comes back just as aggressive and effective

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Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:14 pm**

Chicat wrote:Is this about the first time something like this has worked out for us as a fanbase?

Well let's just see how the recovery goes before we start talking about it having worked out

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:16 pm**

UAEebs86 wrote:

yup, looks like scoob's out through at least the ucla game: Source: Arizona LB Wright has meniscus surgery, hopes to be back in a month (via espn)

hope he has a speedy recovery

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:19 pm**

Scooby works his butt off and he will do everything he can to get back as soon as possible. I don't know if he will be back by UCLA, but Im not counting him out of it.

Posted: **Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:33 am**

I guess this is the best time to bring up the conversation of who will replace Scooby next year? Are we grooming someone for that spot?

Posted: **Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:56 am**

whatisee wrote:I guess this is the best time to bring up the conversation of who will replace Scooby next year? Are we grooming someone for that spot?

Don't think you can just groom someone to replace Scooby. The guy is one of those ultra rare finds in football where being humble, passionate about football, and fucking good at what he does makes for a very potent combo.

Can't really teach that unfortunately, just have to hope a tiny piece of his level of work ethic rubs off on the rest of the team.

Posted: **Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:27 am**

UAEebs86 wrote:

"Injury Expert." Does he testify at trials?

Is he the Father of Debridement?

#behereallweek #trythechimis

Posted: **Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:36 am**

Fishclamps wrote:
whatisee wrote:I guess this is the best time to bring up the conversation of who will replace Scooby next year? Are we grooming someone for that spot?
Don't think you can just groom someone to replace Scooby. The guy is one of those ultra rare finds in football where being humble, passionate about football, and fucking good at what he does makes for a very potent combo.

Can't really teach that unfortunately, just have to hope a tiny piece of his level of work ethic rubs off on the rest of the team.

I'm talking about the MLB spot. The QB of the D. Scoob6y is gone next year. The #2 guy is a RS senior. Who is our D's QB next year once Scooby is gone? 'Punchy' Cody Ippolito?

OF COURSE you could never replace Scooby haha

Posted: **Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:53 am**

whatisee wrote:
Fishclamps wrote:
whatisee wrote:I guess this is the best time to bring up the conversation of who will replace Scooby next year? Are we grooming someone for that spot?
Don't think you can just groom someone to replace Scooby. The guy is one of those ultra rare finds in football where being humble, passionate about football, and fucking good at what he does makes for a very potent combo.

Can't really teach that unfortunately, just have to hope a tiny piece of his level of work ethic rubs off on the rest of the team.
I'm talking about the MLB spot. The QB of the D. Scoob6y is gone next year. The #2 guy is a RS senior. Who is our D's QB next year once Scooby is gone? 'Punchy' Cody Ippolito?

OF COURSE you could never replace Scooby haha

Yeah I get what you're saying now, but I dunno if you can necessarily groom someone to take over the leadership of the D. You can certainly try and hope specific people step up to the plate, but I think for the most part we're just gonna have to wait and see who it comes to naturally.

Hopefully it's someone that starts to shine in the short absence of Scooby over the next few weeks.

Posted: **Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:41 pm**

Fishclamps wrote:
whatisee wrote:
Fishclamps wrote:
whatisee wrote:I guess this is the best time to bring up the conversation of who will replace Scooby next year? Are we grooming someone for that spot?
Don't think you can just groom someone to replace Scooby. The guy is one of those ultra rare finds in football where being humble, passionate about football, and fucking good at what he does makes for a very potent combo.

Can't really teach that unfortunately, just have to hope a tiny piece of his level of work ethic rubs off on the rest of the team.
I'm talking about the MLB spot. The QB of the D. Scoob6y is gone next year. The #2 guy is a RS senior. Who is our D's QB next year once Scooby is gone? 'Punchy' Cody Ippolito?

OF COURSE you could never replace Scooby haha
Yeah I get what you're saying now, but I dunno if you can necessarily groom someone to take over the leadership of the D. You can certainly try and hope specific people step up to the plate, but I think for the most part we're just gonna have to wait and see who it comes to naturally.

Hopefully it's someone that starts to shine in the short absence of Scooby over the next few weeks.

I'm looking out for Kendall Franklin. He got some good love in camp and impressed. He also said he came here because of Scooby. To learn from and be around the best.

Posted: **Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:56 pm**

BearDown89 wrote:
Fishclamps wrote:
whatisee wrote:
Fishclamps wrote:
whatisee wrote:I guess this is the best time to bring up the conversation of who will replace Scooby next year? Are we grooming someone for that spot?
Don't think you can just groom someone to replace Scooby. The guy is one of those ultra rare finds in football where being humble, passionate about football, and fucking good at what he does makes for a very potent combo.

Can't really teach that unfortunately, just have to hope a tiny piece of his level of work ethic rubs off on the rest of the team.
Which is the exact reason losing him for any length of time is so brutal. Not only is he a one man wrecking crew, but he inspires all the players around him on the field and the ones off of it to push themselves. I would have to imagine moral on the defensive side took a pretty big hit when he left.

Long story short, I hope Scooby's real lasting impact on this program is to be the role model all of our players aspire to.

I'm talking about the MLB spot. The QB of the D. Scoob6y is gone next year. The #2 guy is a RS senior. Who is our D's QB next year once Scooby is gone? 'Punchy' Cody Ippolito?

OF COURSE you could never replace Scooby haha
Yeah I get what you're saying now, but I dunno if you can necessarily groom someone to take over the leadership of the D. You can certainly try and hope specific people step up to the plate, but I think for the most part we're just gonna have to wait and see who it comes to naturally.

Hopefully it's someone that starts to shine in the short absence of Scooby over the next few weeks.
I'm looking out for Kendall Franklin. He got some good love in camp and impressed. He also said he came here because of Scooby. To learn from and be around the best.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:16 pm**

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:32 pm**

http://arizona.247sports.com/Bolt/Rodri ... e-39246284

Wright will travel with the team to Nevada

Sucks for the 71st player on the team who has to stay home now.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:16 pm**

azgreg wrote:

Here's to Smothers being a Nick Foles type of practice player. Him and Ware could see playing time due to need, so you never know what could happen there. Hopefully make a lot of you eat your words

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:22 pm**

Good article by board resident Gimino:

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/2997 ... king-rehab

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:30 pm**

UAEebs86 wrote:Good article by board resident Gimino:

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/2997 ... king-rehab

I was just reading that piece. great work.

The worry was somewhat alleviated at halftime, when it was evident that Scooby wasn't showing signs of a torn ligament. The family was able to take Scooby for an MRI exam in Friday's early morning hours, and they were back at the Lowell-Stevens Football Facility later that morning, meeting with doctors, trainers and coaches.

It was at this point that the family was cautious, eager to seek out multiple professional opinions.

"I tell you this, the school was first class," Phil said.

"Once they got in there, the injury was less than they even could have thought," Phil said.

Scooby was able to return home that night, walking around the house without crutches.

"I think he's going to come back even stronger than he was before," Rodriguez said. "Knowing Scooby, he will be chomping at the bit, but we will make sure, and the trainers will make sure, that when he is coming back, he's coming back 100 percent ready to go."

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:26 am**

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... e-practice

All-American linebacker Scooby Wright, who had surgery after suffering a torn meniscus in No. 16 Arizona's season opener, will try practicing this week as the team prepares for Saturday's showdown against No. 9 UCLA.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:40 am**

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:40 am**

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr- ... 04051.html

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:41 am**

hope he doesn't push it too hard

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:50 am**

Epic picture

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:04 am**

ASUHATER! wrote:hope he doesn't push it too hard

same. not that the trainers & med staff would allow him to play if he wasn't ready, i'd rather scoob sit this one out and be 100% for the rest of the season than play at 80% and get re-injured. it's only ucla.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:08 am**

I imagine the training staff recalls the Adam Hall fiasco quite well.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:58 am**

Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:03 am**

MrBug708 wrote:Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury

Nice try, but doctors makes those calls.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:06 am**

I think if anything Scooby would end up lying to get on the field vs RR potentially bringing him back at even 95%. True football players do what they can to get back on the field, because its the one thing they really wanna do. They probably shouldn't, but they do. I seriously doubt anyone is pushing the star player of this team to hurry his ass up and come back.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:14 am**

MrBug708 wrote:Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury

you're so good at the backhanded twat behavior.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:17 am**

Fishclamps wrote:I think if anything Scooby would end up lying to get on the field vs RR potentially bringing him back at even 95%. True football players do what they can to get back on the field, because its the one thing they really wanna do. They probably shouldn't, but they do. I seriously doubt anyone is pushing the star player of this team to hurry his ass up and come back.

Someone tried to stay off the field although cleared, see below.

Sage&Silver wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury
Nice try, but doctors makes those calls.

And doctor's have differing opinions.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:19 am**

Sage&Silver wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury
Nice try, but doctors makes those calls.

Just like the DA makes the call on felony charges and when players are reinstated

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:24 am**

MrBug708 wrote:Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury

Get out of here with that crap.

IF Scooby plays it will be because: Scooby, Scooby's family, the training staff, The Medical Staff, AND the coaching staff all give the OK.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:27 am**

scumdevils86 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury
you're so good at the backhanded twat behavior.

And youre just an asshat who wants to be accepted by the board. I guess we all have our deal. But at least you arent your brother so I guess it's not all gloom and doom.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:29 am**

So if the medical staff says he's good to go, who are we to judge? The bottom line is Scooby most certainly did everything required and then some to get where he his now. That's just how this kid is, a fierce competitor and the text book definition of a OKG.

That being said, having to pretty much sit out of 3 games (UTSA minimal minutes) and this caged animal is about to be unleashed on a rookie QB under a national spotlight with the world tuning in.

Good times ahead for Mr. Rosen!

Should be a lot of fun, can't wait.....

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:30 am**

if he doesnt practice and practice well doing so without limitation and range at full speed he 100% shouldnt play.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:31 am**

I like you Bug for a non UA fan, but the Scott comment bugs me right now. No pun intended. Do you mean the USC game or the UCLA game in 2012? I can understand if you mean USC but I think it is a bad look if you are talking about UCLA when medial professionals cleared him.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:32 am**

MrBug708 wrote:
Sage&Silver wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Hopefully RichRod doesn't use the same judgement on Scooby that he used on the Matt Scott concussion injury protocol. Hate seeing kids playing when they shouldn't and risk further injury
Nice try, but doctors makes those calls.
Just like the DA makes the call on felony charges and when players are reinstated

The DA makes the call when a player is reinstated?

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:37 am**

PHXCATS wrote:I like you Bug for a non UA fan, but the Scott comment bugs me right now. No pun intended. Do you mean the USC game or the UCLA game in 2012? I can understand if you mean USC but I think it is a bad look if you are talking about UCLA when medial professionals cleared him.

I remember the game bug is talking about and honestly I didn't understand why Scott came back in to that game, he threw up on the field and looked a little wobbly.

This year on the football boards has been a little chippy, I'm liking it.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:38 am**

PHXCATS wrote:I like you Bug for a non UA fan, but the Scott comment bugs me right now. No pun intended. Do you mean the USC game or the UCLA game in 2012? I can understand if you mean USC but I think it is a bad look if you are talking about UCLA when medial professionals cleared him.

Just watching him, you could tell he wasn't right and shouldn't have been on the field, concussion or not he shouldn't have had his helmet

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:58 am**

MrBug708 wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:I like you Bug for a non UA fan, but the Scott comment bugs me right now. No pun intended. Do you mean the USC game or the UCLA game in 2012? I can understand if you mean USC but I think it is a bad look if you are talking about UCLA when medial professionals cleared him.
Just watching him, you could tell he wasn't right and shouldn't have been on the field, concussion or not he shouldn't have had his helmet

So USC game right? If so I agree with you. If you mean another game your comment is not fair because doctors cleared him after plenty of evaluation

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:02 am**

PHXCATS wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:I like you Bug for a non UA fan, but the Scott comment bugs me right now. No pun intended. Do you mean the USC game or the UCLA game in 2012? I can understand if you mean USC but I think it is a bad look if you are talking about UCLA when medial professionals cleared him.
Just watching him, you could tell he wasn't right and shouldn't have been on the field, concussion or not he shouldn't have had his helmet
So USC game right? If so I agree with you. If you mean another game your comment is not fair because doctors cleared him after plenty of evaluation

Yeah almost positive he meant the game he never actually left

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:43 pm**

Concussions are tricky things. IMO, the training staff should've taken him out as a precaution, but why does it matter that Rich Rod allowed him back into the game? If the training staff didn't take away his helmet or bar him from returning, why should we expect a non-medical professional, like a coach, to do it? Isn't that the entire point? Take away the decision-making power from coaches and players, and putting the decision in the hands of medical professionals?

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:48 pm**

I thought we all got past this Matt Scott confusion between puking and concussion when he puked in the NFL preseason.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:49 pm**

Me too, the bruin fans are just being the turds in the punch bowl that they almost always are.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:59 pm**

Back to Scooby...

By my count he will be 20 days post op on Saturday. Which is pretty close to the 3-4 week window for the injury.

I don't see a problem if the training staff says he's good to go and is braced and taped up.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:18 pm**

I think that is key, everyone seems to hear 3-4 weeks and assumes 3-4 games but Friday will be the 3rd week. Just him engaged and being a pass rush on 3rd downs would lift the D. Not a full rotation, just a sniff.

Posted: **Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:44 pm**

97cats wrote:if he doesnt practice and practice well doing so without limitation and range at full speed he 100% shouldnt play.

This. There is physiology and healing that needs to take place that is independent of conditioning, muscle mass, motivation, etc. I'm not an orthopod, but anything less then 3 weeks for this type of condition is a set up for reinjury, in general.

Then again people arnt textbooks and Scooby maybe an outlier. Interested to see what his, his coaches, and his medical team decide.

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