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Everyone should be praying KU is the #1 seed in the West and Arizona is the #4 seed - and hope Gonzaga is not the #5 seed.Beachcat97 wrote:Kansas is one of the more undeserving #1s in recent years.
You know, I'm not completely sold on the Zags tbh. IMO, they seem pedestrian in the post this year compared to years past (no karnowski or collins). I think Ayton and Dus would have their ways with the Zags in that aspect. The one concern I would have is the length of some of their guards and the range they have. Our Perimeter D has improved but there deep game could pose a problem. I don't think they are as talented as previous years. I think we win that game npNYCat wrote:Everyone should be praying KU is the #1 seed in the West and Arizona is the #4 seed - and hope Gonzaga is not the #5 seed.Beachcat97 wrote:Kansas is one of the more undeserving #1s in recent years.
Gonzaga is nowhere near the team they were last year, but Tillie is a very good player and their defense is solid. I agree: I think we're clearly the better team this year, but the Zags are as well coached as any team and would be a very tough second round game.BE4RDOWN21 wrote:You know, I'm not completely sold on the Zags tbh. IMO, they seem pedestrian in the post this year compared to years past (no karnowski or collins). I think Ayton and Dus would have their ways with the Zags in that aspect. The one concern I would have is the length of some of their guards and the range they have. Our Perimeter D has improved but there deep game could pose a problem. I don't think they are as talented as previous years. I think we win that game npNYCat wrote:Everyone should be praying KU is the #1 seed in the West and Arizona is the #4 seed - and hope Gonzaga is not the #5 seed.Beachcat97 wrote:Kansas is one of the more undeserving #1s in recent years.
if they lose they are like the definition of a bubble team to study for the committee as a thought experiment. good wins in ooc, bad conference and conference result. very bubbly SOS and RPI in the 50s/60s.SabinoDrifter wrote:those turds in Tempe would be an interesting case if they were to lose today...
Just about half.BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I'm Pretty sure 90% of ASU's shots have been from 3 point range so far today...live by the 3, die by the 3
they're either an 11 seed play-in team or like the #1 overall seed in the NITNYCat wrote:Yeah asu shouldn't be in, they were hovering the 11 line before. Especially if UCLA, Oregon or USC wins the conference tournament. At best ASU should be a play in game.
In my mind's eye, they're wearing the Guard U t-shirts when this happens. Then Hurley gives an interview with CBS with his hands behind his back.azgreg wrote:Please have a camera on them as they announce the field and they're not in.
azgreg wrote:Please have a camera on them as they announce the field and they're not in.
Gonzaga is a tough team for anyone to face. I don’t think a 5 seed is justified, and it makes sense to ship Arizona or Gonzaga.NYCat wrote:Everyone should be praying KU is the #1 seed in the West and Arizona is the #4 seed - and hope Gonzaga is not the #5 seed.Beachcat97 wrote:Kansas is one of the more undeserving #1s in recent years.
Don't you have to have a winning conf record to make the NIT or at least even?ASUHATER! wrote:they're either an 11 seed play-in team or like the #1 overall seed in the NITNYCat wrote:Yeah asu shouldn't be in, they were hovering the 11 line before. Especially if UCLA, Oregon or USC wins the conference tournament. At best ASU should be a play in game.
They have to have near .500 records and a large fan-base. We'll see how long ASU fans stick around...U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Don't you have to have a winning conf record to make the NIT or at least even?ASUHATER! wrote:they're either an 11 seed play-in team or like the #1 overall seed in the NITNYCat wrote:Yeah asu shouldn't be in, they were hovering the 11 line before. Especially if UCLA, Oregon or USC wins the conference tournament. At best ASU should be a play in game.
LH you being sarcastic or already drunk in vegas? if asu is in a play-in game they'd be an 11 seedLonghorned wrote:If ASU is in the play-in game, which #1 seed wants to face them in the first round? Kansas and Xavier would no doubt be spared, but how does Villanova and Virginia feel about that? It's one thing with conference foes that know how to plan for ASU. The one-and-out tourney is another thing. Not out of this world to wonder if this would be the first ever 1-seed eliminated by a 16-seed.
No, I actually confused myself. Only three drinks in. Thanks, prh.prh wrote:LH you being sarcastic or already drunk in vegas? if asu is in a play-in game they'd be an 11 seedLonghorned wrote:If ASU is in the play-in game, which #1 seed wants to face them in the first round? Kansas and Xavier would no doubt be spared, but how does Villanova and Virginia feel about that? It's one thing with conference foes that know how to plan for ASU. The one-and-out tourney is another thing. Not out of this world to wonder if this would be the first ever 1-seed eliminated by a 16-seed.
Not anymore.U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Don't you have to have a winning conf record to make the NIT or at least even?ASUHATER! wrote:they're either an 11 seed play-in team or like the #1 overall seed in the NITNYCat wrote:Yeah asu shouldn't be in, they were hovering the 11 line before. Especially if UCLA, Oregon or USC wins the conference tournament. At best ASU should be a play in game.
No way Oklatraema is out, poster child for WTF?Alieberman wrote:Oklahoma was listed in the top 16 when the selection committee put their top 16 out a few weeks ago. They just lost again and finished the season at 18-13. Are they now out? Even a worse collapse than ASU.
Last 15 games they are 4-11CatFanOneMil wrote:No way Oklatraema is out, poster child for WTF?Alieberman wrote:Oklahoma was listed in the top 16 when the selection committee put their top 16 out a few weeks ago. They just lost again and finished the season at 18-13. Are they now out? Even a worse collapse than ASU.
That's sad. But if they are that bad over the past 15 games and Kansas keeps loosing at home like they did ( even against ASU), then that would mean the big 12 is not as good as promoted - and conferences like the PAC-12 are better than being reported.Alieberman wrote:Last 15 games they are 4-11CatFanOneMil wrote:No way Oklatraema is out, poster child for WTF?Alieberman wrote:Oklahoma was listed in the top 16 when the selection committee put their top 16 out a few weeks ago. They just lost again and finished the season at 18-13. Are they now out? Even a worse collapse than ASU.
NYCat wrote:Everyone should be praying KU is the #1 seed in the West and Arizona is the #4 seed - and hope Gonzaga is not the #5 seed.Beachcat97 wrote:Kansas is one of the more undeserving #1s in recent years.
Yeah Im not seeing how they can get in. Finished tied for 9th in a conference that probably only gets 2 or 3 teams in the tournament. Only won one of their last 6 games, and that was a home game against a brutal Cal team. The Kansas win loses some of its pop when you look at how Kansas was playing (also losing to UW and barely edging another weaker team). As the season has progressed those two wins (incl Xavier) have looked more and more like flukes or getting the right opponent on the wrong night. RPI 62, BPI 47 and Kenpom 44 aren't enough to push them over the edge for the numbers guys either.ASUHATER! wrote:if they lose they are like the definition of a bubble team to study for the committee as a thought experiment. good wins in ooc, bad conference and conference result. very bubbly SOS and RPI in the 50s/60s.SabinoDrifter wrote:those turds in Tempe would be an interesting case if they were to lose today...
I'm scared of Michigan State.EVCat wrote:Would sign off on Palm's current bracketology
4 in west vs Buffalo, winner of NMSU/Ohio State, Kansas is the 1, Creighton/FSU 8/9 a legit chance to beat Kansas in the first weekend.
Other (2/3) side of the bracket features Michigan State, North Carolina, TCU, Rhode Island, Texas...
Annnd...no ASU
Longhorned wrote:
Region doesn't matter.
If they got through, that would be a tough game. But I could flip KU and MSU and we would be in line to hit them in the S16, and that would be far worse than this design.Spaceman Spiff wrote:I'm scared of Michigan State.EVCat wrote:Would sign off on Palm's current bracketology
4 in west vs Buffalo, winner of NMSU/Ohio State, Kansas is the 1, Creighton/FSU 8/9 a legit chance to beat Kansas in the first weekend.
Other (2/3) side of the bracket features Michigan State, North Carolina, TCU, Rhode Island, Texas...
Annnd...no ASU
I learned that the last time we met them in the West. Would love to do it again97cats wrote:Longhorned wrote:
Region doesn't matter.
fast fact: did you know that under the leadership of legendary coach Mike Krzyzewski Duke has been to the Final Four 12 times and that none of those 12 trips came when slotted in the WEST Region.
I know we all know the NCAA rigs this shit to create TV worthy match-ups instead of "purely" seeding the tournament... I know we know East Coast bias is a thing...97cats wrote:Longhorned wrote:
Region doesn't matter.
fast fact: did you know that under the leadership of legendary coach Mike Krzyzewski Duke has been to the Final Four 12 times and that none of those 12 trips came when slotted in the WEST Region.
Oh, I know for a fact that Duke has never made it out of the west. And yet I still don't believe that's because of the flight time or time zone or anything else associated with their placement in that region.97cats wrote:Longhorned wrote:
Region doesn't matter.
fast fact: did you know that under the leadership of legendary coach Mike Krzyzewski Duke has been to the Final Four 12 times and that none of those 12 trips came when slotted in the WEST Region.
When's the last time Arizona made the FF while placed in the West? I honestly don't know the answer, but something tells me it isn't great.97cats wrote:Longhorned wrote:
Region doesn't matter.
fast fact: did you know that under the leadership of legendary coach Mike Krzyzewski Duke has been to the Final Four 12 times and that none of those 12 trips came when slotted in the WEST Region.
The best part about all of this is now they get to sit and wait as more and more bids get stolen.rgdeuce wrote:Yeah Im not seeing how they can get in. Finished tied for 9th in a conference that probably only gets 2 or 3 teams in the tournament. Only won one of their last 6 games, and that was a home game against a brutal Cal team. The Kansas win loses some of its pop when you look at how Kansas was playing (also losing to UW and barely edging another weaker team). As the season has progressed those two wins (incl Xavier) have looked more and more like flukes or getting the right opponent on the wrong night. RPI 62, BPI 47 and Kenpom 44 aren't enough to push them over the edge for the numbers guys either.ASUHATER! wrote:if they lose they are like the definition of a bubble team to study for the committee as a thought experiment. good wins in ooc, bad conference and conference result. very bubbly SOS and RPI in the 50s/60s.SabinoDrifter wrote:those turds in Tempe would be an interesting case if they were to lose today...
Do NOT want to see them til the final four. One of only 3(?) teams who are top 20 in both adjO and adjD, and we have seen far less superior Izzo teams go to final fours. Yeah, no thanks.Spaceman Spiff wrote:I'm scared of Michigan State.EVCat wrote:Would sign off on Palm's current bracketology
4 in west vs Buffalo, winner of NMSU/Ohio State, Kansas is the 1, Creighton/FSU 8/9 a legit chance to beat Kansas in the first weekend.
Other (2/3) side of the bracket features Michigan State, North Carolina, TCU, Rhode Island, Texas...
Annnd...no ASU
Making them sweat, then giving them the bad news will be the ultimate timeline. Lmaocats101 wrote:The best part about all of this is now they get to sit and wait as more and more bids get stolen.rgdeuce wrote:Yeah Im not seeing how they can get in. Finished tied for 9th in a conference that probably only gets 2 or 3 teams in the tournament. Only won one of their last 6 games, and that was a home game against a brutal Cal team. The Kansas win loses some of its pop when you look at how Kansas was playing (also losing to UW and barely edging another weaker team). As the season has progressed those two wins (incl Xavier) have looked more and more like flukes or getting the right opponent on the wrong night. RPI 62, BPI 47 and Kenpom 44 aren't enough to push them over the edge for the numbers guys either.ASUHATER! wrote:if they lose they are like the definition of a bubble team to study for the committee as a thought experiment. good wins in ooc, bad conference and conference result. very bubbly SOS and RPI in the 50s/60s.SabinoDrifter wrote:those turds in Tempe would be an interesting case if they were to lose today...