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Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:48 pm
by Postmaster
UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:38 pm I think I like this new Tommy better than Aw Shucks Tommy.

Let's hope he has the same energy in recruiting going forward as well.
Some people get a bit more pissy when they become grandparents.

Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:56 am
by Merkin
"We're closing the gap". Now where have I heard that before?

Not sure why he was complaining about Sampson targeting ADO, TT and CB. That's just good basketball.

Nothing about the players being gassed the last 5 minutes though. And 3 air balls in this time.

The UA led 62-61 with 5:23 left—after being down 10 six minutes earlier—but didn’t make a field goal the rest of the way, missing its final five shots and turning it over three times down the stretch including on consecutive possessions when down two and four points in the last 1:09 as Houston (30-4) locked down on defense.

5:32 Tobe Awaka made Layup. 62 61
5:28 Houston Timeout 62 61
5:28 Emanuel Sharp subbing out for Houston 62 61
5:28 Joseph Tugler subbing in for Houston 62 61
5:09 Milos Uzan made Three Point Jumper. 62 64
4:36 Jaden Bradley missed Three Point Jumper. 62 64
4:33 Tobe Awaka Offensive Rebound. 62 64
4:33 Arizona Turnover. 62 64
4:10 L.J. Cryer missed Jumper. 62 64
4:07 Mylik Wilson Offensive Rebound. 62 64
3:53 Milos Uzan made Jumper. 62 66
3:26 KJ Lewis missed Three Point Jumper. 62 66
3:24 Mylik Wilson Defensive Rebound. 62 66
2:54 Mylik Wilson missed Three Point Jumper. 62 66
2:52 Joseph Tugler Offensive Rebound. 62 66
2:33 Foul on Joseph Tugler. 62 66
2:33 Joseph Tugler Turnover. 62 66
2:33 Official TV Timeout 62 66
2:33 Joseph Tugler subbing out for Houston 62 66
2:33 Emanuel Sharp subbing in for Houston 62 66
2:14 Caleb Love missed Three Point Jumper. 62 66
2:10 Milos Uzan Defensive Rebound. 62 66
1:44 Milos Uzan missed Jumper. 62 66
1:41 Mylik Wilson Offensive Rebound. 62 66
1:40 Mylik Wilson Turnover. 62 66
1:40 KJ Lewis Steal. 62 66
1:37 Foul on Milos Uzan. 62 66
1:37 Caleb Love made Free Throw. 63 66
1:37 Caleb Love made Free Throw. 64 66
1:17 Emanuel Sharp missed Three Point Jumper. 64 66
1:15 Caleb Love Defensive Rebound. 64 66
1:09 Caleb Love Turnover. 64 66
0:43 Ja'Vier Francis made Dunk. 64 68
0:42 Arizona Timeout 64 68
0:32 Jaden Bradley Turnover. 64 68
0:31 Tobe Awaka subbing out for Arizona 64 68
0:31 Carter Bryant subbing in for Arizona 64 68
0:31 Foul on KJ Lewis. 64 68
0:22 Houston Timeout 64 68
0:17 Foul on KJ Lewis. 64 68
0:17 Emanuel Sharp made Free Throw. 64 69
0:17 Emanuel Sharp made Free Throw. 64 70
0:10 Caleb Love missed Three Point Jumper. 64 70
0:09 Houston Defensive Rebound. 64 70
0:05 Foul on Henri Veesaar. 64 70
0:05 L.J. Cryer made Free Throw. 64 71
0:05 L.J. Cryer made Free Throw. 64 72
0:00 Jaden Bradley missed Three Point Jumper. 64 72
0:00 Mylik Wilson Defensive Rebound. 64 72




Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:30 am
by Alieberman
Merkin wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:56 am "We're closing the gap". Now where have I heard that before?

Not sure why he was complaining about Sampson targeting ADO, TT and CB. That's just good basketball.
He wasn't complaining about Houston / Sampson targeting certain players- he was complaining about our players not being up to the challenge of being targeted

Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:49 am
by Merkin
Alieberman wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:30 am
Merkin wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:56 am "We're closing the gap". Now where have I heard that before?

Not sure why he was complaining about Sampson targeting ADO, TT and CB. That's just good basketball.
He wasn't complaining about Houston / Sampson targeting certain players- he was complaining about our players not being up to the challenge of being targeted

That makes sense, but ADO can't will himself some lateral quickness, or Townsend increase his basketball IQ. Only one that can and will get better is Bryant. Quit falling for shot fakes for one.

Seems to me that is a lot on Lloyd having them out there with no help. Maybe work on a zone in the off season.

Reminds of his odd comment he made a couple weeks ago when asked if the players were tired. He said something like they need to go deeper and get more strength.

Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:31 am
by EastCoastCat
Merkin wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:49 am
Alieberman wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:30 am
Merkin wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:56 am "We're closing the gap". Now where have I heard that before?

Not sure why he was complaining about Sampson targeting ADO, TT and CB. That's just good basketball.
He wasn't complaining about Houston / Sampson targeting certain players- he was complaining about our players not being up to the challenge of being targeted

That makes sense, but ADO can't will himself some lateral quickness, or Townsend increase his basketball IQ. Only one that can and will get better is Bryant. Quit falling for shot fakes for one.

Seems to me that is a lot on Lloyd having them out there with no help. Maybe work on a zone in the off season.

Reminds of his odd comment he made a couple weeks ago when asked if the players were tired. He said something like they need to go deeper and get more strength.
He mentioned he could have played zone, but he said it in a disparaging/defeatist sort of way. In his mind, his players needed to step up to the challenge.

Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:45 am
by azcat49
This goes back to the argument of why we signed ADO and TT. Some will say it’s all we could afford and others will say we were targeting role players and they don’t cost as much along with its basketball and it’s relatively cheap.

Right from the tip everyone knew this was not a gaME for ADO. TT cake in and promptly lost his man in transition and gave up three each time and was immediately pulled and only got back in when CB took a nutt shot.

He should only be mad at himself for the poor eval’s of these guys. It will be interesting if he parts ways with ADO

Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:02 pm
by Merkin
azcat49 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:45 am It will be interesting if he parts ways with ADO
With the new rules regarding roster limits, I would certainly hold onto him. You can have 16 players next season, and all of them can be scholarship players. No more walk-ons, although junior Lloyd can probably remain on as one of the 16. No need to RhettRod him, being the UA pays his dad millions, he gets tuition discounts, and in-state residency.


I also doubt ADO would ever go. Go back to taking buses to games?

Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:04 pm
by Postmaster
The coaches need to figure out how to get ADO open shots.

Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:22 pm
by pc in NM
Postmaster wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:04 pm The coaches need to figure out how to get ADO open shots.
Hint: don't play Houston or ISU...

Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:59 pm
by MrKyle
Postmaster wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:04 pm The coaches need to figure out how to get ADO open shots.
I think the bigger issue is that he can't stay in the game for long enough stretches to get continual good looks. He gets singled out on defense by the other teams and turns into a liability.

If he could play passable defense then I think it would open up his offensive game opportunities.

Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 5:04 pm
by EastCoastCat
The thought of trying to figure out how to get ADO “open looks” is never going to happen now that you are playing good teams who know he’s our best 3 point shooter.

And because he really can’t create his own shots since defenses and his well documented defensive liabilities means he will not be seeing more than 12-15 minutes in this Tournament.

Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 5:16 pm
by UAEebs86
I will never understand why CTL thinks our two weakest rotation players should be in against the other teams best players at the moments they are most rested.

Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 6:13 pm
by TheCat
EastCoastCat wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:05 pm Man, CTL was pissed at the presser. Houston running ISO’s in the second half and our guys not “man-ing up” and getting stops irritated him to no end.
Did you watch Kelvin Sampson's presser. He said the same thing. They would iso on 3 guys when they were in and run right at them. Said V is an absolute beast the way he plays. Said Tobe was also someone they had problems with.

Re: Tommy Lloyd

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 6:16 pm
by TheCat
pc in NM wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:37 pm
TheCat wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:00 pm This is the first year but I think Arizona fans will start to show up wherever they play. Would like a rotation though simply because I hate Kansas.
T-Mobile is in Missouri...
The team not the state.