Bear Down Wildcats

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:34 pm**

That Bal couldn't crack the rotation this year is very telling. Disappointed, but when you play less minutes as a sophomore than you do a freshmen, then you should rethink the school you are at. Bal just never took the stop between freshman and sophomore we were all hoping he would take.

I don't see that for Boswell, who was already a better player at the end of this year as compared to game one. In fact, Bos was our best outside player against Princeton, and I wish Tommy would have given Bos some minutes in clutch time. Because with Kerr out there, we were stagnant, and it was ugly.

I'm hoping Pelle stays, because he is capable of playing PG. I would imagine we also pick up a few transfers as well, and if you're a mid-major guard/swingman who thinks he can play at the next level, I'd be contacting Arizona right now. We're losing Ramey, Kerr, and Bal. Definitely room for a good transfer swing man.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:37 pm**

AzCatFan2 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:34 pm That Bal couldn't crack the rotation this year is very telling. Disappointed, but when you play less minutes as a sophomore than you do a freshmen, then you should rethink the school you are at. Bal just never took the stop between freshman and sophomore we were all hoping he would take.

I don't see that for Boswell, who was already a better player at the end of this year as compared to game one. In fact, Bos was our best outside player against Princeton, and I wish Tommy would have given Bos some minutes in clutch time. Because with Kerr out there, we were stagnant, and it was ugly.

I'm hoping Pelle stays, because he is capable of playing PG. I would imagine we also pick up a few transfers as well, and if you're a mid-major guard/swingman who thinks he can play at the next level, I'd be contacting Arizona right now. We're losing Ramey, Kerr, and Bal. Definitely room for a good transfer swing man.

Henderson too

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:48 pm**

arizonawildcats wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:30 pm

He has to learn to shoot imo if he wants to come back, otherwise it's diminishing returns

Was surprised he didn't work on it in the off-season, his outside shooting and free throw shooting has been atrocious.

And the ability not stretch out the defense hurts our spacing and offense. Both Kerr and Tubelis really didn't grow much and have been the same player since first stepping into the court

Tubelis also isn't going to all of a sudden becomes a dawg with his on court personality

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:54 pm**

That's too bad about Bal. High upside but just couldn't develop for some reason. Maybe Lloyd and crew are just better with bigs. But Boswell did quite well.

Could have had lots of minutes next season with Kriisa, Henderson and Ramey all gone, and only Lewis coming in, so far anyway.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:59 pm**

So as I said before it comes down to the collectives

Let's see how good Arizona fans actually are

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:14 pm**

I expected Bal would transfer. I’m not overly surprised Kerr would transfer with how the season ended. I hope Larson stays.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:36 pm**

OSUCat wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:14 pm I expected Bal would transfer. I’m not overly surprised Kerr would transfer with how the season ended. I hope Larson stays.

Akinjo was effectively a college free agent. Momo wanted to be closer to home.

Kriisa is transferring because...?? He can do better than starting PG at AZ?

I'm not at all broken up over today's news, just surprised. I imagined Kriisa could go start getting paid in Europe, but where tf is he going? He's not Remy Martin.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:51 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:36 pm Momo wanted to be closer to home.

Ahhh, made me think of Will Bynum, who did start some games for the UA then transferred to Georgia Tech.

He initially claimed he wanted to be closer to his mom.

In Chicago.

Then the real reason came out: https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... orgia-tech

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:04 pm**

Bynum should have been the starting PG.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:05 pm**

Bonne chance mon ami joue bien et continue.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:06 pm**

Merkin wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:51 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:36 pm Momo wanted to be closer to home.
Ahhh, made me think of Will Bynum, who did start some games for the UA then transferred to Georgia Tech.

He initially claimed he wanted to be closer to his mom.

In Chicago.

Then the real reason came out: https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... orgia-tech

Great memory, Merk!

Will Bynum...wow. There's a name I haven't thought about for a long time.

So when Bynum got to Tucson, he had Gardner and Salim ahead of him. Then the following season we brought in Chris Rodgers(!) and Hassan. So for a little while there, the backcourt was crowded. Iggy joined the team as well in '02. I did think Bynum would become a big-minutes player eventually if he'd stuck it out, but it sounds like he needed to be back in Chicago.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:40 pm**

Was it Lions or Momo that transferred and went to Iona? Or were they not PGs?

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:57 pm**

Momo went to Iona. Though he was more of a sg than a pg. Lions finished his college playing days while at Arizona, also more of a sg. Too bad he was only elgible for a year, guy was money when he was needed the most.

Edit: They both played pg at AZ.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:16 pm**

AzCatFan2 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:34 pm I'm hoping Pelle stays, because he is capable of playing PG. I would imagine we also pick up a few transfers as well, and if you're a mid-major guard/swingman who thinks he can play at the next level, I'd be contacting Arizona right now. We're losing Ramey, Kerr, and Bal. Definitely room for a good transfer swing man.

He's really not a ball handler at all, did you not watch Larsson make turnover after turnover when teams pressed Arizona late in games this year?

Even Kerr wasn't that good with a full court press, he struggled to break free by himself, or make dumb decisions that would lead to turning it over

That BTW should've been a huge red flag about this team

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:17 pm**

RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:48 pm
arizonawildcats wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:30 pm

He has to learn to shoot imo if he wants to come back, otherwise it's diminishing returns

Was surprised he didn't work on it in the off-season, his outside shooting and free throw shooting has been atrocious.

And the ability not stretch out the defense hurts our spacing and offense. Both Kerr and Tubelis really didn't grow much and have been the same player since first stepping into the court

Tubelis also isn't going to all of a sudden becomes a dawg with his on court personality

He was a *checking my notes* a consensus second team All-American.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:19 pm**

GlobalCat wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:17 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:48 pm
arizonawildcats wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:30 pm

He has to learn to shoot imo if he wants to come back, otherwise it's diminishing returns

Was surprised he didn't work on it in the off-season, his outside shooting and free throw shooting has been atrocious.

And the ability not stretch out the defense hurts our spacing and offense. Both Kerr and Tubelis really didn't grow much and have been the same player since first stepping into the court

Tubelis also isn't going to all of a sudden becomes a dawg with his on court personality
He was a *checking my notes* a consensus second team All-American.

Edey was 1st team and the NPOY and just like Tubelis disappeared in the tournament because March is about guards and they both didn't have the ability to create for themselves or shoot from deep

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:29 pm**

RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:19 pm
GlobalCat wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:17 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:48 pm
arizonawildcats wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:30 pm

He has to learn to shoot imo if he wants to come back, otherwise it's diminishing returns

Was surprised he didn't work on it in the off-season, his outside shooting and free throw shooting has been atrocious.

And the ability not stretch out the defense hurts our spacing and offense. Both Kerr and Tubelis really didn't grow much and have been the same player since first stepping into the court

Tubelis also isn't going to all of a sudden becomes a dawg with his on court personality
He was a *checking my notes* a consensus second team All-American.
Edey was 1st team and the NPOY and just like Tubelis disappeared in the tournament because March is about guards and they both didn't have the ability to create for themselves or shoot from deep

And this is why we can't have nice things...

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:41 pm**

RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:19 pm
GlobalCat wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:17 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:48 pm
arizonawildcats wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:30 pm

He has to learn to shoot imo if he wants to come back, otherwise it's diminishing returns

Was surprised he didn't work on it in the off-season, his outside shooting and free throw shooting has been atrocious.

And the ability not stretch out the defense hurts our spacing and offense. Both Kerr and Tubelis really didn't grow much and have been the same player since first stepping into the court

Tubelis also isn't going to all of a sudden becomes a dawg with his on court personality
He was a *checking my notes* a consensus second team All-American.
Edey was 1st team and the NPOY and just like Tubelis disappeared in the tournament because March is about guards and they both didn't have the ability to create for themselves or shoot from deep

They both scored 20+ points in their tourney games.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:00 pm**

I think the point about big men is that even when they score 20+ points in a tourney game, that alone isn’t enough to carry their team to victory, as it may have been in many reg season games.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:05 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:12 pm Bal just announced he's leaving.

It's like rats running from a sinking ship. I expect Tubelis to declare (if he's smart) and possibly more transfers. Next year is going to be rough. Could Boswell bolt? His demeanor during the Princeton post game presser made me wonder. Tommy won't have the luxury of Sean Miller recruits next season. I'm still not convinced he's a good recruiter. I hope he proves me wrong. So far I'm not impressed.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:39 pm**

Captain Obvious wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:05 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:12 pm Bal just announced he's leaving.
It's like rats running from a sinking ship. I expect Tubelis to declare (if he's smart) and possibly more transfers. Next year is going to be rough. Could Boswell bolt? His demeanor during the Princeton post game presser made me wonder. Tommy won't have the luxury of Sean Miller recruits next season. I'm still not convinced he's a good recruiter. I hope he proves me wrong. So far I'm not impressed.

Somebody get Captain O a Xanax and a week in Cabo! Stat!

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:56 pm**

Captain Obvious wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:05 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:12 pm Bal just announced he's leaving.
It's like rats running from a sinking ship. I expect Tubelis to declare (if he's smart) and possibly more transfers. Next year is going to be rough. Could Boswell bolt? His demeanor during the Princeton post game presser made me wonder. Tommy won't have the luxury of Sean Miller recruits next season. I'm still not convinced he's a good recruiter. I hope he proves me wrong. So far I'm not impressed.

Only two guys from this years teams were contributors of any kind and were Miller guys...

Kerr and Tubelis

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:06 pm**

RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:56 pm
Captain Obvious wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:05 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:12 pm Bal just announced he's leaving.
It's like rats running from a sinking ship. I expect Tubelis to declare (if he's smart) and possibly more transfers. Next year is going to be rough. Could Boswell bolt? His demeanor during the Princeton post game presser made me wonder. Tommy won't have the luxury of Sean Miller recruits next season. I'm still not convinced he's a good recruiter. I hope he proves me wrong. So far I'm not impressed.
Only two guys from this years teams were contributors of any kind and were Miller guys...

Kerr and Tubelis

Come on, Rondae. Ballo, Ramey, Henderson, and Boswell were all big contributors this year.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:08 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:06 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:56 pm
Captain Obvious wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:05 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:12 pm Bal just announced he's leaving.
It's like rats running from a sinking ship. I expect Tubelis to declare (if he's smart) and possibly more transfers. Next year is going to be rough. Could Boswell bolt? His demeanor during the Princeton post game presser made me wonder. Tommy won't have the luxury of Sean Miller recruits next season. I'm still not convinced he's a good recruiter. I hope he proves me wrong. So far I'm not impressed.
Only two guys from this years teams were contributors of any kind and were Miller guys...

Kerr and Tubelis
Come on, Rondae. Ballo, Ramey, Henderson, and Boswell were all big contributors this year.

They are trolling us right? I just started laughing after reading the comments.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:19 pm**

OSUCat wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:08 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:06 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:56 pm
Captain Obvious wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:05 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:12 pm Bal just announced he's leaving.
It's like rats running from a sinking ship. I expect Tubelis to declare (if he's smart) and possibly more transfers. Next year is going to be rough. Could Boswell bolt? His demeanor during the Princeton post game presser made me wonder. Tommy won't have the luxury of Sean Miller recruits next season. I'm still not convinced he's a good recruiter. I hope he proves me wrong. So far I'm not impressed.
Only two guys from this years teams were contributors of any kind and were Miller guys...

Kerr and Tubelis
Come on, Rondae. Ballo, Ramey, Henderson, and Boswell were all big contributors this year.
They are trolling us right? I just started laughing after reading the comments.

Maybe? The convoluted irony in this thread just gets messy after a while.

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:21 pm**

Tommy Lloyd guys:
Larsson
Ramey
Ballo
Boswell
Henderson

Bal
Anderson
Borovicanin

Sean Miller guys:
Kriisa
Tubelis
Tubelis

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:09 pm**

Any word on the cal-baptist PG?

Posted: **Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:23 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:06 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:56 pm
Captain Obvious wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:05 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:12 pm Bal just announced he's leaving.
It's like rats running from a sinking ship. I expect Tubelis to declare (if he's smart) and possibly more transfers. Next year is going to be rough. Could Boswell bolt? His demeanor during the Princeton post game presser made me wonder. Tommy won't have the luxury of Sean Miller recruits next season. I'm still not convinced he's a good recruiter. I hope he proves me wrong. So far I'm not impressed.
Only two guys from this years teams were contributors of any kind and were Miller guys...

Kerr and Tubelis
Come on, Rondae. Ballo, Ramey, Henderson, and Boswell were all big contributors this year.

I think he means the only Miller guys that contributed were Zu and Kerr.
I hope.

Posted: **Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:49 am**

Postmaster wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:23 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:06 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:56 pm
Captain Obvious wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:05 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:12 pm Bal just announced he's leaving.
It's like rats running from a sinking ship. I expect Tubelis to declare (if he's smart) and possibly more transfers. Next year is going to be rough. Could Boswell bolt? His demeanor during the Princeton post game presser made me wonder. Tommy won't have the luxury of Sean Miller recruits next season. I'm still not convinced he's a good recruiter. I hope he proves me wrong. So far I'm not impressed.
Only two guys from this years teams were contributors of any kind and were Miller guys...

Kerr and Tubelis
Come on, Rondae. Ballo, Ramey, Henderson, and Boswell were all big contributors this year.
I think he means the only Miller guys that contributed were Zu and Kerr.
I hope.

Yeah, that's what I was reading, as well. But we have some that are blaming the fans in one thread and in another saying the fans need to fill the collectives.

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:13 am**

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:51 am**

Tommy better get some work done from the portal.

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:52 am**

dmjcat wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:13 am

AWESOME!!!!

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:53 am**

Man that nil money must be good in Dukeland to get a potential lottery pick to return

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:06 am**

84Cat wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:53 am Man that nil money must be good in Dukeland to get a potential lottery pick to return

Now that you don’t have to deal with buying houses for players’ families there is more money to go straight to players.

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:32 am**

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... ter-portal

Yes please. The transfer portal is LOADED. No reason Tommy can't reload and get us right back in the mix next season.

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:15 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:32 am https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... ter-portal

Yes please. The transfer portal is LOADED. No reason Tommy can't reload and get us right back in the mix next season.

Disagree BC. The amount of money being thrown at many of the top players is something that CTL & the UA won't be able to match. I just posted an article on NIL (and what some of the Miami players got) on the football board.

The recruiting universe has changed completely from just a few years ago. Realistic fans need to downgrade expectations........we are NOT going to outbid Phil Knight for a player that UOregon wants. We are going to have problems matching any of the SEC/B1G schools if it comes down to money given the $75-100M/yr media contracts those schools have (which is 3-4 X what the UA is receiving).

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:45 pm**

dmjcat wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:15 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:32 am https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... ter-portal

Yes please. The transfer portal is LOADED. No reason Tommy can't reload and get us right back in the mix next season.
Disagree BC. The amount of money being thrown at many of the top players is something that CTL & the UA won't be able to match. I just posted an article on NIL (and what some of the Miami players got) on the football board.

The recruiting universe has changed completely from just a few years ago. Realistic fans need to downgrade expectations........we are NOT going to outbid Phil Knight for a player that UOregon wants. We are going to have problems matching any of the SEC/B1G schools if it comes down to money given the $75-100M/yr media contracts those schools have (which is 3-4 X what the UA is receiving).

Well that's just about the worst news ever.

I can understand not being able to compete with Phil Knight, but I'd think there's still enough in the coffers to lure good players. Maybe not the best players, but does that even matter? I just read that this year's Final Four doesn't have a single McD's AA. Tommy needs to recruit players that fit his vision for the program, and we need to pass on guys that are simply looking to get paid.

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 1:04 pm**

"I want good transfer and recruits to come to UA but I want others to pay for it" beachcat97

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:19 pm**

PHXCATS wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 1:04 pm "I want good transfer and recruits to come to UA but I want others to pay for it" beachcat97

Yep, I wouldn't even consider giving money to my alma mater, especially if it could help our athletics programs.

I'll leave that to PHX and others.

(narrator: but the irony in his comment was lost on PHX, whose inability to discern verbal nuance was second to none)

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:26 pm**

https://twitter.com/caleb2love/status/1 ... spn.com%2F

Another one I'd love to have.

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:39 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:26 pm https://twitter.com/caleb2love/status/1 ... spn.com%2F

Another one I'd love to have.

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:41 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:26 pm https://twitter.com/caleb2love/status/1 ... spn.com%2F

Another one I'd love to have.

High volume, low efficiency chucker..........hard pass

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:46 pm**

dmjcat wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:41 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:26 pm https://twitter.com/caleb2love/status/1 ... spn.com%2F

Another one I'd love to have.
High volume, low efficiency chucker..........hard pass

And yet, Kerr Kriisa makes him look like Steph Curry.

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:48 pm**

I heard from a fairly reliable source that Creighton was getting each basketball player well over $100k. Does the U of A have those kind of donors?
Besides PHX.

Also, my understanding is that the school still can’t pay the players. So how do they get the $ from the TV deals into the players hands?

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:53 pm**

Postmaster wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:48 pm I heard from a fairly reliable source that Creighton was getting each basketball player well over $100k. Does the U of A have those kind of donors?
Besides PHX.

Also, my understanding is that the school still can’t pay the players. So how do they get the $ from the TV deals into the players hands?

Creighton?? Seriously? It's crazy how these smaller yet competitive schools have that kind of resources at their disposal.

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:05 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:46 pm
dmjcat wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:41 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:26 pm https://twitter.com/caleb2love/status/1 ... spn.com%2F

Another one I'd love to have.
High volume, low efficiency chucker..........hard pass

And yet, Kerr Kriisa makes him look like Steph Curry.

In what universe???

KerrK 34.7% Overall, 33.6% from 3pt

CLove 37.8% Overall, 29.9% 3 pt

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:17 pm**

dmjcat wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:05 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:46 pm
dmjcat wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:41 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:26 pm https://twitter.com/caleb2love/status/1 ... spn.com%2F

Another one I'd love to have.
High volume, low efficiency chucker..........hard pass

And yet, Kerr Kriisa makes him look like Steph Curry.
In what universe???

KerrK 34.7% Overall, 33.6% from 3pt

CLove 37.8% Overall, 29.9% 3 pt

Don't think the stats tell the whole story with these two.

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:32 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:17 pm
dmjcat wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:05 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:46 pm
dmjcat wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:41 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:26 pm https://twitter.com/caleb2love/status/1 ... spn.com%2F

Another one I'd love to have.
High volume, low efficiency chucker..........hard pass

And yet, Kerr Kriisa makes him look like Steph Curry.
In what universe???

KerrK 34.7% Overall, 33.6% from 3pt

CLove 37.8% Overall, 29.9% 3 pt
Don't think the stats tell the whole story with these two.

Yeah Kerr actually won a bunch of games

Posted: **Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:39 pm**

Streaky 3 point shooter too. Not impressed, at least with the eyeball stats test early in the season, but sure shot well later in the season.

And look at all those 2 point shot attempts. Not afraid to get closer to the basket unlike Kriisa.

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