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Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:48 am
by Puerco
UALoco wrote:both criteria was kind of the point..
Fair enough. Point taken. :)

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:18 pm
by Irish27

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:24 am
by Newportcat
I was wondering when we were going to land a typical Rich Rod 5'9 160 lbs receiver with great speed. Rich Rod loves those types of WR's/RB's.

Guy looks really athletic from his HUDL video but will need to put on some weight

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:53 am
by CatsbyAZ
Newportcat wrote:I was wondering when we were going to land a typical Rich Rod 5'9 160 lbs receiver with great speed. Rich Rod loves those types of WR's/RB's.

Guy looks really athletic from his HUDL video but will need to put on some weight
Adding weight easier than adding speed.

Probably don't need another WR, but he comes from Armwood near Tampa - a very proven football factory, and his offer list is more than adequate: Boston College, Georgia Tech, Iowa State, Louisville, Oregon State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Rutgers, Syracuse, Tennessee, Virginia Tech.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:28 am
by Newportcat
Could not agree more, thats why I have struggled with some recruits in the past that appeared slow as speed seems like something very hard to add. However, 158 lbs is pretty light for a PAC 12 player but he will put on weight in time.

Still no DE's though. Feel like we will land either Nelson or Tucker at OL and hopefully we get a couple of those Phoenix area DE's and love another DT too.

The one position we did not need is WR however I agree, strong offer list and this is where I struggle sometimes with rankings as this guy clearly should be a high 3 star guy based on his offer list but is not ranked that way. This class could use some speed on offense and this guy looks to be one who fits that role well.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:51 am
by gronk4heisman
Lets finish this class strong with Jalen Harris, Odua Isibor, Ryan Nelson, Isaac Slade-Matuatia and Jaylen Redd and call it a day. Of course we make room for Joseph Lewis, Elijah Blades, Bruce Judson and DJ Johnson if they want to come on board as well.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:26 pm
by azcat49
I know they are trying to make sure every one of these kids that can enroll in December does so they don't have to greyshirt anybody. I have no idea how many slots they have open and it sure looks like this class will be going over 25.

I like the video of this last kid. Dude has speed and great moves. Not sure if he is playing at the highest level of Florida football but all over that state it's pretty good football. His offer list is pretty impressive as well.

PAC 12 media day this week I think, Thursday right?

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:22 pm
by ChooChooCat
Burmeister, McNeal, and Fields all intend to enroll early I believe, so maybe we can go 28 with this class?

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:47 pm
by MrBug708
Were you three short last year?

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:16 am
by CatsbyAZ
azcat49 wrote:I know they are trying to make sure every one of these kids that can enroll in December does so they don't have to greyshirt anybody. I have no idea how many slots they have open and it sure looks like this class will be going over 25.

I like the video of this last kid. Dude has speed and great moves. Not sure if he is playing at the highest level of Florida football but all over that state it's pretty good football. His offer list is pretty impressive as well.
Armwood High School is the real deal. They've won three 6A state championships in the past 15 years and during that span have produced a lot of college level talent to include a good share of Gators and Hurricanes. A buddy of mine played HS football there and said the practice sidelines were a constant carousel of top assistants from everywhere - Penn State, Tennessee, Iowa, Wisconsin, Kentucky, etc.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:47 am
by gronk4heisman
MrBug708 wrote:Were you three short last year?

According to my uneducated math, feel free to correct me if you see any errors.
+ 20 signings last year
+ 4 grey shirts (Walker, Nunley, Parks and Sherman)
- 1 grey shirt (Halimon)
- 1 never enrolled (Britt)
- 2 Early Enrollees (Tate and Neves)
= 20 2015 scholarships

So according to that calculation we can go up to 29 signings this year plus Halimon (Greyshirt) as longs as five enroll in the spring.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:45 am
by chiefzona
gronk4heisman wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Were you three short last year?

According to my uneducated math, feel free to correct me if you see any errors.
+ 20 signings last year
+ 4 grey shirts (Walker, Nunley, Parks and Sherman)
- 1 grey shirt (Halimon)
- 1 never enrolled (Britt)
- 2 Early Enrollees (Tate and Neves)
= 20 2015 scholarships

So according to that calculation we can go up to 29 signings this year plus Halimon (Greyshirt) as longs as five enroll in the spring.

28 to 30 sounds about right. Gotta save 2 or 3 for the silent commits.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:31 pm
by ChooChooCat
gronk4heisman wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Were you three short last year?

According to my uneducated math, feel free to correct me if you see any errors.
+ 20 signings last year
+ 4 grey shirts (Walker, Nunley, Parks and Sherman)
- 1 grey shirt (Halimon)
- 1 never enrolled (Britt)
- 2 Early Enrollees (Tate and Neves)
= 20 2015 scholarships

So according to that calculation we can go up to 29 signings this year plus Halimon (Greyshirt) as longs as five enroll in the spring.
Britt is also a grey shirt.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:59 pm
by gronk4heisman
ChooChooCat wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Were you three short last year?

According to my uneducated math, feel free to correct me if you see any errors.
+ 20 signings last year
+ 4 grey shirts (Walker, Nunley, Parks and Sherman)
- 1 grey shirt (Halimon)
- 1 never enrolled (Britt)
- 2 Early Enrollees (Tate and Neves)
= 20 2015 scholarships

So according to that calculation we can go up to 29 signings this year plus Halimon (Greyshirt) as longs as five enroll in the spring.
Britt is also a grey shirt.
I thought I read that Britt's condition worsened and he has since walked away from football.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:21 pm
by catinfl
Britt has a heart problem if I remember correctly, but honestly if it comes down to a guy like Joseph Lewis, Thomas Graham, or Jaylon Johnson want to commit you take them and figure it out later. Every player in this class is pretty solid imo love how it's shaking out.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:12 pm
by UALoco
Puerco wrote:
UALoco wrote:both criteria was kind of the point..
Fair enough. Point taken. :)
Cool. Thanks for that. I know I have rose colored glasses on but this class is beyond anything fans would have predicted from this team before RR made the coaching changes. I understand being critical but I don't think we are not pulling more 4 and 5* due to a lack of trying. I think most of those kids are front-runners and just want to be on the best, most prestigious team they can. There are exceptions with those men with the confidence that they'll go to the league regardless and want to play for a coaching staff they connect with. Beardown

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:20 pm
by azcat49
Watch out for a 4 star DE with initials DJ. Great offer list and I think AZ has a good shot at him

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:15 am
by Puerco
UALoco wrote:
Puerco wrote:
UALoco wrote:both criteria was kind of the point..
Fair enough. Point taken. :)
Cool. Thanks for that. I know I have rose colored glasses on but this class is beyond anything fans would have predicted from this team before RR made the coaching changes. I understand being critical but I don't think we are not pulling more 4 and 5* due to a lack of trying. I think most of those kids are front-runners and just want to be on the best, most prestigious team they can. There are exceptions with those men with the confidence that they'll go to the league regardless and want to play for a coaching staff they connect with. Beardown
It has indeed far surpassed my expectations. Hopefeully our classes continue to do that year on year.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:23 am
by the real dill

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:05 am
by MrBug708
azcat49 wrote:Watch out for a 4 star DE with initials DJ. Great offer list and I think AZ has a good shot at him
I think hejust named Miami a leader

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:33 am
by azcat49
MrBug708 wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Watch out for a 4 star DE with initials DJ. Great offer list and I think AZ has a good shot at him
I think hejust named Miami a leader
Well we still have a shot. If we can get him in for an official visit you never know what might happen

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:46 pm
by dmjcat
the real dill wrote:
Looks like we have the edge for Harris:

http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/in ... clude.html" target="_blank

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:52 pm
by MrBug708
Someone on 247 fell for the Hunter Echols routine

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:58 pm
by ChooChooCat
MrBug708 wrote:Someone on 247 fell for the Hunter Echols routine
What is the Hunter Echols routine exactly?

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:59 pm
by Sage&Silver
ChooChooCat wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Someone on 247 fell for the Hunter Echols routine
What is the Hunter Echols routine exactly?
I think he's referring to Gabe Encinas from AZ Desert Swarm flipping his crystal ball prediction to Arizona earlier today.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:23 pm
by MrBug708
Every fan base thinks he's flipping to them after a visit. Washington, USC, Notre Dame, and now an Arizona guy. He's not exactly a lock to ucla but the kid loves recruiting

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:09 am
by ChooChooCat
MrBug708 wrote:Every fan base thinks he's flipping to them after a visit. Washington, USC, Notre Dame, and now an Arizona guy. He's not exactly a lock to ucla but the kid loves recruiting
I definitely don't doubt you, but he hasn't visited Arizona since March. Probably linking him up with Rhedi Short or something to come to that conclusion, who knows?

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:20 pm
by chiefzona
Freak Nasty

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:30 pm
by TyrantCat
chiefzona wrote:Freak Nasty
Say what?

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:48 pm
by ChooChooCat
chiefzona wrote:Freak Nasty
Miami?

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:03 pm
by Sage&Silver
ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Freak Nasty
Miami?
He wasn't in 2LiveCrew.

Same last name as the CB from MI..... but that would be a stretch of a clue unless they're related. I gave up, but every crazy thing I came up with was a 4 star, so :D

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:13 pm
by chiefzona
ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Freak Nasty
Miami?

Very probable.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:17 pm
by azcat49
Deonte Johnson. Hoping that 5 star receiver is a silent to us

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:56 am
by chiefzona
azcat49 wrote:Deonte Johnson. Hoping that 5 star receiver is a silent to us

:lol:

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:07 pm
by azcat49
chiefzona wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Deonte Johnson. Hoping that 5 star receiver is a silent to us

:lol:
And that means DJ won't come(will go to Miami?) or no way that 5 star guy would be a silent. I have no inside on any of this like you Chief, just hoping. Always cryptic you are Chief.

If you have something to say do so

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:29 pm
by azgreg
azcat49 wrote:Deonte Johnson. Hoping that 5 star receiver is a silent to us
That kid's offer list is huge.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:57 am
by chiefzona
azcat49 wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Deonte Johnson. Hoping that 5 star receiver is a silent to us

:lol:
And that means DJ won't come(will go to Miami?) or no way that 5 star guy would be a silent. I have no inside on any of this like you Chief, just hoping. Always cryptic you are Chief.

If you have something to say do so
DJ most likely goes to Miami but things can always change. I hear ya about the hope. Were you thinking Lewis is a silent commit?

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:26 am
by azcat49
Just hoping he was/is. Who wouldn't want that. I know he is coming in this weekend

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:34 am
by chiefzona
azcat49 wrote:Just hoping he was/is. Who wouldn't want that. I know he is coming in this weekend

Stranger things have happened my friend.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:18 pm
by ANGCatFan

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:32 pm
by gronk4heisman
ANGCatFan wrote:Good summation of who we are targeting from SB Nation.
This article is incredibly optimistic, but I would take us finishing up our class with the names Gabe mentioned in a heartbeat.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:27 pm
by MrBug708
gronk4heisman wrote:
ANGCatFan wrote:Good summation of who we are targeting from SB Nation.
This article is incredibly optimistic, but I would take us finishing up our class with the names Gabe mentioned in a heartbeat.
All but 5 schools would be happy with those kids. I think dc isn't that optimistic about Arizona football. There are some good names on that list.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 5:25 pm
by Sage&Silver
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Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 5:26 pm
by Sage&Silver
MrBug708 wrote:Every fan base thinks he's flipping to them after a visit. Washington, USC, Notre Dame, and now an Arizona guy. He's not exactly a lock to ucla but the kid loves recruiting
At least one fan base is going to be right. Is he one of the "big recruits" on campus this weekend?

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:21 pm
by MrBug708
Yup. He liked the game and got burned. That reporter from UW really burned him badly and UCLA coaches weren't too happy with it. I think the staff goes after DJ now that they have an opening at DE again.

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:35 am
by CatsbyAZ
What a big deal if our coaches could convince Echols. He would play the second he put on a jersey.
MrBug708 wrote:Yup. He liked the game and got burned. That reporter from UW really burned him badly and UCLA coaches weren't too happy with it. I think the staff goes after DJ now that they have an opening at DE again.
What's the story of this Washington reporter?

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:28 pm
by MrBug708
Private convo talking about his commitment status, He's always been committed to UCLA, but open to all schools and lets it known. The reported screenshotted his text convo with Echols to say that he really was decommitmented. Once that hit, the UCLA coaches weren't none to pleased and Echols tried to do damage control. Now he's open and I'm not sure UCLA coaches are that interested in spending too much time recruiting him. It's Echols own fault for enjoying the recruiting too much, but Lars was more interested in proving he had a scoop than he did with the kids actually recruit. It happens. I'd expect this will likely go to signing day.

Cathedral kids are pretty flakey though, so who knows

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:18 pm
by whatisee
MrBug708 wrote:Private convo talking about his commitment status, He's always been committed to UCLA, but open to all schools and lets it known. The reported screenshotted his text convo with Echols to say that he really was decommitmented. Once that hit, the UCLA coaches weren't none to pleased and Echols tried to do damage control. Now he's open and I'm not sure UCLA coaches are that interested in spending too much time recruiting him. It's Echols own fault for enjoying the recruiting too much, but Lars was more interested in proving he had a scoop than he did with the kids actually recruit. It happens. I'd expect this will likely go to signing day.

Cathedral kids are pretty flakey though, so who knows
We'll gladly take him if we end up being his final choice. We need guys like Echols, but hopefully more weary of reporters

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:49 pm
by Merkin

Re: 2017 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:18 pm
by chiefzona
Ya. So, any Lewis commitment yet? :roll: