Bear Down Wildcats

Winger

Well if we all wanna end up in the B1G or the SEC, then gutting our football program's spending is the last thing we should be doing.

I dont know what it takes to make it into 1 of the Supers but I used to think Arizona’s research chops and size (alumni size/population is an unreported ...

Winger

I think if he goes lottery that is 100% based on potential. A lot will depend on his performance in the combine. There are certainly teams that need a 3 with an outside shot if they have no other pressing needs I could see them drafting potential. If you wanted a shooter and better ball handler ...

Winger

Givony update this am:

Carter Bryant: not in the top 15 picks.

Sort of.

Because he says to watch out for San Antonio, who have the 8th and 14th picks, and put going at #8 in play as possible (tho he predicted Jackucionis at the Spurs at 8 and Will Riley at 14).

Winger

Word on new assistant Chappell:

Hungry. Aggressive. Confident. Looking forward to working with and elevating Bradley’s game in particular. Aggressive recruiter that knows how to play in the game, especially for Texas recruits, and especially around Houston. I will be watching for Texas-based prep ...

Winger

I just wish he would get with Tracey Chapman and make a decision.

He's got a fast car?

Can someone give him one reason to stay here?

If he really wants all the experiences that come with playing another season at Arizona and is willing to put off hoops as a cutthroat isolating ...

Winger

Agree on your first sentence Chi. Especially given the offense Lloyd runs most often, which is designed to create mismatches and then, assuming you can recognize them real time - which is something most of his teams have struggled with - take advantage of the mismatch you have created. Something ...

Winger

Agree on your first sentence Chi. Especially given the offense Lloyd runs most often, which is designed to create mismatches and then, assuming you can recognize them real time - which is something most of his teams have struggled with - take advantage of the mismatch you have created. Something me ...

Winger

Glad to hear the atmosphere in the locker room is better than last year. Maybe that'll get us a few more wins?

The money issue is tricky, but if football has zero chance of being competitive we may as well make sure basketball stays as competitive as possible.

Yeah I was too. Especially when ...

Winger

The Athletic addressed teams waiting on NBA Draft: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6327545/2025/05/02/nba-draft-college-basketball-decisions/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983&userId=9651934&source=dailyemail

2025 NBA Draft stay-or-go decisions: 11 that loom large for 2025-26 college ...

Winger

If he has a guarantee from an actual team that is a no brainer. Not sure how these evaluations are changing other than some guys stating they are coming back and you move up a spot. These guys aren't trying out for teams yet are they? Interviewing?

I cant talk about it/the specifics but I dont ...

Winger

Heard a couple things you all might find interesting.

First the atmosphere in the locker room now is much better than it was last season.

Second you cant compare prior seasons (especially Rich Rod taking over a Stoops’ roster that was 10 x what this one is) because in the current landscape ...

Winger

I dont know that you can believe any of this; but the rumor for CB for this season was in the $1.25-1.50 mil range and the rumor for what its going to take to sign Sarr, assuming he doesnt go pro, is > $3 mil.

Winger

Athletic moved Bryant up to #9 in its latest mock.

Appears what I heard and posted here last week wasnt bs.

Winger

Again, are we even on Sarr at this point?

I dont think so.

For one, he is going to be expensive. Allegedly would take a booster step up for Arizona to be able to afford him, like 3 times + the booster step up for Love last season. Some folks still believe that he is NBA bound. Some ‘mo behind ...

Winger

Obviously I prefer Carter to come back, but if not- the best option I’ve seen so far is sarr. We now have a little more versatility in the front court, and having sarr allows us to go 3 guards without one of them being ADO.

I don’t hate ADO, just not a fan of him starting halves against ...

Winger

Used Draft Express/Givony mock drafts as a proxy for projected top 20 pick. Went back several mocks before the actual draft (6/25/14) in case RHJ was mocked high and then dropped because he pulled out.

3/31
AG - #8
RHJ - NR

4/26
AG - #8
RHJ - NR

5/25
AG - #10
RHJ - NR

6/14
AG - #10
RHJ - NR

6 ...

Winger

Obviously I prefer Carter to come back, but if not- the best option I’ve seen so far is sarr. We now have a little more versatility in the front court, and having sarr allows us to go 3 guards without one of them being ADO.

I don’t hate ADO, just not a fan of him starting halves against the ...

Winger

College paying more than the pro’s. Who’d a thunk that

College is definitely a more guaranteed income at this point. There are just way more spots than the NBA.

Shit man, if someone wanted to pay me $50k to play basketball at UA plus give me a free education I’d jump on it. Better than ...

Winger

When did he get in front of teams?

As I understand it: recently.

I seem to remember Terry blowing up during the eval process when it came to measurables/testing (i.e. not shooting) but you're right he was better defensively when he entered the draft (sophomore c/w CB being a freshman).

Best ...

Winger

Well if he is 10 then that is a no brainer. Not sure how a single figure scorer with some defensive liabilities would be that high unless they are all in on potential only. Someone that averages 6.5 points and 4.1 rebounds (5th on the team) are not usually coveted in the top 10.

Yeah I agree ...

Winger

I guess no one else will tell you this but based on recent events Carter is likely to be closer to #10 than #20.

Which is awesome. So stoked for him if the rumors are accurate.

Winger

Chicat wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:24 am Saw a few mocks with him as high as 11. If he gets anything close to a guarantee in that range, he should probably go.

I trust Givony and if he moves Bryant up it would back up what I heard.

Winger

Givony still has Bryant at #20. Think that will likely end up being too low. Be interested to see if he moves Bryant up over the next few weeks.

Winger

Think Trilly Donovan recently posted that Duke is making a push for Sarr. Seems impossible that Arizona could/would outspend Duke.

Feels like the AD needs to develop a situation where we have a Daddy Warbucks type who won’t be outspent when the basketball team sees a desperate need. Not sure ...

Winger

Not a surprise but FTR:

https://x.com/DraftExpress/status/1916451981163442398

Winger

Think Trilly Donovan recently posted that Duke is making a push for Sarr. Seems impossible that Arizona could/would outspend Duke.

Winger

Is testing water still a thing? If yes, I think he should test the water

The word going around is there is no middle ground. He's either in the draft, or he's back at Arizona.

Doubt that the rumor was ever true/accurate. Not that it matters in the slightest. Even today, when he is ...

Winger

Agree best case scenario is Carter Bryant but that ship has sailed, or will be sailing shortly.

If I had to guess the “backup plan”, assuming that there is one, I’d surmise a DGT; but I wouldn’t put any $$ on that.

I know on average preps are cheaper than transfers. I do not know where DGTs slide ...

Winger

Think you all can bank on Bryant not coming back.

Time to move on to: who plays the 3 for Lloyd next season?

I dunno but here are the scenarios:

* Land a legit guard with some size, who is a shot creator : worry about who backs up Koa.

* Land a swingman who likely doesn't have Carter's ...

Winger

Is testing water still a thing? If yes, I think he should test the water

The word going around is there is no middle ground. He's either in the draft, or he's back at Arizona.

Doubt that the rumor was ever true/accurate. Not that it matters in the slightest. Even today, when he is “testing ...

Winger

Well that sucks. I had my hopes up.

Easier just to assume someone like him would be gone and be pleasantly surprised if he comes back.

That is where I was until last night. Assumption is gone plus some homer fan in me thinking that maybe NIL changes things and he comes back for a ...

Winger

No he has no eligibility left, just a cool video.

Yeah, I was joking. But, with all of the changes to college sports, why have term limits?

That is a very interesting question.

How does the NCAA enforce any rules without contracts?

How many years you can play. When you can transfer ...

Winger

Well that sucks. I had my hopes up.

Easier just to assume someone like him would be gone and be pleasantly surprised if he comes back.

That is where I was until last night. Assumption is gone plus some homer fan in me thinking that maybe NIL changes things and he comes back for a season ...

Winger

Think you all can bank on Bryant not coming back.

Time to move on to: who plays the 3 for Lloyd next season?

Winger

ADO can be a useful player. As instant offense off the bench against the other team's 2's. I'd also sub ADO in for offense in late game situations. He is a very good shooter, and the best FT shooter on the team. But starting ADO? Not ideal.

Uh no.....he is not the best free throw shooter on ...

Winger

Holding schools in limbo really blows. Had to be a better way to coordinate the timelines of college bball and the NBA draft

It's my understanding that the "transfer window" is not a deadline for athletes to actually commit to a new school. They can still transfer and commit to other ...

Winger

Winger, would love to hear you expand on your thoughts on Miller and what Luke (who is an idiot in my book) is talking about in his tweet

This may end up being a wall of text, will try to keep it brevis.

Sean Miller is a good basketball coach. He isn’t a great basketball coach. Texas ...

Winger

Why do I think that ADOs own family don’t talk about him as much as we do?

I’d love to stop talking about him. But I’m afflicted with the same PTSD Winger has.

In fact, I think his man just scored again… (shudder)

I get Al’s point. Will cease and desist on ADO. Think we’d talk about him ...

Winger

CalStateTempe wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:14 pm
Merkin wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:05 pm

FSM

Both Gimino and Luke have no clue what they are talking/tweeting about.

The worst thing is that I explained this to Luke maybe 5 times OTOS and he never learned.

Winger

Sean will kill it at Texas by year 3. He was a great coach but needed to discover you can win games with offense as much as you can defense.

Will believe it when I see it. When he took Xavier were you one of those who posted that he’d kill it there too?

True/false: Sean Miller’s 2nd stint ...

Winger

And I agree with you on ADO. For the everything in the offseason is rosy regime the messaging is going to be “he is fine as the 10th guy why are you worried about the 10th guy” but after last season I am terrified that Lloyd will continue to start him.

ADO is pretty clearly going to be the ...

Winger

Arizona finished higher in the B12 than the experts predicted. I'm not sure what you consider successful by Arizona standards because if those standards were established in the PAC I agree. We either won the conference or the tournament or both. That won't happen in the B12. Arizona lost 80% of ...

Winger

And I agree with you on ADO. For the everything in the offseason is rosy regime the messaging is going to be “he is fine as the 10th guy why are you worried about the 10th guy” but after last season I am terrified that Lloyd will continue to start him.

ADO is pretty clearly going to be the 1st ...

Winger

Actually, using ADO in the first 5 minutes of a half proved successful

Not it wasn’t. Name me 3 times! :D

If it was successful Lloyd wouldn’t have played him 4 minutes of total gametime outside of his starting minutes to the 1st and 2nd halves. Have posted this a million times but Lloyd ...

Winger

Actually, using ADO in the first 5 minutes of a half proved successful

Not it wasn’t. Name me 3 times! :D

If it was successful Lloyd wouldn’t have played him 4 minutes of total gametime outside of his starting minutes to the 1st and 2nd halves. Have posted this a million times but Lloyd ...

Winger

Holding schools in limbo really blows. Had to be a better way to coordinate the timelines of college bball and the NBA draft

It's my understanding that the "transfer window" is not a deadline for athletes to actually commit to a new school. They can still transfer and commit to other ...

Winger

Formal visits are paid for by the school. And must be reported. Informal are paid by the player, who just may be visiting.

Rumor has it there's a player in the portal waiting for Bryant's decision. If Bryant declares, the player is ours. If Bryant stays, the spot is his. Either way, we should ...

Winger

No he has no eligibility left, just a cool video.

Yeah, I was joking. But, with all of the changes to college sports, why have term limits?

That is a very interesting question.

How does the NCAA enforce any rules without contracts?

How many years you can play. When you can transfer. Who ...

Winger

Lloyd, for anyone that hasn’t seen this, “fully expects” Carter Bryant to do the NBA testing deal.

And, in potentially tangentially related news, former Lloyd Team USA SF Shelton Henderson has just decommitted from Duke.

Edit: oh and I forgot …. and though I do not know who the player was, I ...

Winger

Lloyd, for anyone that hasn’t seen this, “fully expects” Carter Bryant to do the NBA testing deal.

And, in potentially tangentially related news, former Lloyd Team USA SF Shelton Henderson has just decommitted from Duke.

Edit: oh and I forgot …. and though I do not know who the player was, I ...

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