Bear Down Wildcats

Winger

Nate Oats just now:

“Obviously we are going to have to be better against Duke.”

Bro.

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I was trying to be funny. Riffing off of the prior presser when one of the reporters alleged that he was hiding Henri (from the NBA) by limiting his minutes. My delivery sucks.

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I feel like I've seen the Hoss nickname here, also. Maybe over there when there was free material.

David Kelly played a clip of a question he asked CTL yesterday.

Paraphrasing: "He said a lot of people in Tucson were curious why Awaka sat for 8 minutes at end of game. Could you explain your ...

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Winger - let’s play some fan fiction , who gets to a ff first? CTL at Arizona or SM are Texas?

I too never bought into the “aw shucks, I’m just happy to be here persona”. This post season I think we l are starting to see the subtle competitive competence that drives CTL.

1. That is a tough one ...

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Lloyd does not lack for confidence. That may be slightly different from “ego” but he is not the aw-shucks I don’t even deserve to be here guy some portray him to be. Early on someone was talking to him about Miller and said something like “you have big shoes to fill” and his response was “I have big ...

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Just took a quick look A and no guard's minutes are significantly different now c/w that early season stretch save for KJ who is playing slightly fewer (I didn't calculate how many fewer). Unless I missed it.

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I do wish Arizona would quick shrinking late. So many 6-7-8-9 point games become one possession games or worse

This is one facet where having a playmaking PG and the ability to run some structured offense comes in.

Free love it and you get things like 3FGA from Veesaar early in the shot clock ...

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Ok if you’re still ok with Lloyd starting ADO and Townsend I am sorry but you are a fing idiot.

I’m ok with trusting Lloyd… the guy with I think the 2nd most wins ever in his 1st 4 years coaching

Does that make me a fucking idiot?

That was too harsh from me.

I was super pissed when it ...

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Yeah I'm just happy we didn't have a first weekend exit after the ups and downs of this season

Agree. In a way this was sort of a big week/weekend for Lloyd. I remain scarred from what I saw in person vs Duke earlier this season but it's almost April and there is a reason they play the games ...

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Ok if you’re still ok with Lloyd starting ADO and Townsend I am sorry but you are a fing idiot.

Winger

Less that CDC wouldn't go after him, and more he already knows is a no. Like you said, no need to waste time.

Roger that.

CDC obviously chose to look past Miller’s issues so it’s not like I can read his mind lol. Some of the recruiting stuff has been mitigated by the NIL era and maybe the ...

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Less that CDC wouldn't go after him, and more he already knows is a no. Like you said, no need to waste time.

Roger that.

CDC obviously chose to look past Miller’s issues so it’s not like I can read his mind lol. Some of the recruiting stuff has been mitigated by the NIL era and maybe the ...

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Wing, CDC hired Miller thoughts?

Lots of them lol.

First off, not surprised that he took it (see above).

I never thought it was a given that he’d kill it at X and posted so OTOS often. I’d call this a high floor hire for CDC especially in this new SEC $$$ era. I dunno about the height of the ...

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So we played 15 guys yesterday and I think the only player who didn’t get in was DRF’s son.

Not a coincidence.

Because we could only dress 15 guys.

Now it might not be a coincidence that Francois was the one chosen not to dress, but looking at all of our walkons, he’s obviously at the ...

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So we played 15 guys yesterday and I think the only player who didn’t get in was DRF’s son.

Not a coincidence.

Regarding being up 5 when ADO went out: the thing folks need to consider is that it could’ve been 10. Also, he didn’t make any of the 3 initial 3’s Arizona uncharacteristically hit to ...

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Oregon brought a lot of their dudes back. Assume that is NIL-related. Team has experience playing with each other and for Altman. Who is good at designing and calling offensive sets to get his guys the shots he wants. Which means: ADO and Townsend are in more trouble. I don’t think ADO could have ...

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If CTL isn't going to use more players for real minutes, then the S/C program needs a major overhaul. You can't just tell the players to suck it up in March.

The problem is ADO and Trey were useless, not S/C. Tommy needs to get more selective with recruits.

Why are they starting??? So we ...

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AZCatGirl wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:42 pm
Postmaster wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:34 pm If CTL isn't going to use more players for real minutes, then the S/C program needs a major overhaul. You can't just tell the players to suck it up in March.
The problem is ADO and Trey were useless, not S/C. Tommy needs to get more selective with recruits.

Amen.

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azcat49 wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:48 pm
Winger wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:32 pm
azcat49 wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:13 pm Probably was said but I can’t find it, how was the AZ crowd? Any numbers as guesstimates?
Not nearly as good as the Kansas or Iowa State crowds.
I see what you did there. LMAO

Glad someone got it!

I mean it is a Tommy Lloyd thread, right?

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azcat49 wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:13 pm Probably was said but I can’t find it, how was the AZ crowd? Any numbers as guesstimates?

Not nearly as good as the Kansas or Iowa State crowds.

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By default because they chose not to recruit anyone else, which still blows my mind. He's the worst defender I've seen in an Arizona uniform since Ryan Anderson, and one of the worst I can ever remember.

Probably not possible at this point but ADO imo needs a ton of S&C work and effort put ...

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By default because they chose not to recruit anyone else, which still blows my mind. He's the worst defender I've seen in an Arizona uniform since Ryan Anderson, and one of the worst I can ever remember.

Probably not possible at this point but ADO imo needs a ton of S&C work and effort put in ...

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I'd bet money on it being Xavier. Too much of a narrative not to have it be them.

Dont want that. Dont want to root against Sean and really dont want to lose in the first round. Hoping we can do some damage starting tonight to improve our seed and avoid Xavier.

Do you think we need to ...

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Cat - once the season winds down I will do a thing on KP pre vs post season and post it here. This was a difficult Arizona team to forecast (which due to roster turnover is going to be a thing going forward). That aside, I wasnt sure we were as good as 10th, but I did post here that 5th in ...

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AZCatGirl wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:40 pm I'd bet money on it being Xavier. Too much of a narrative not to have it be them.

Dont want that. Dont want to root against Sean and really dont want to lose in the first round. Hoping we can do some damage starting tonight to improve our seed and avoid Xavier.

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He literally says fan or fans 3 times. Do better.

“The last two places we played were electric. I’m an Arizona guy, and I love Arizona—this is not an indictment on our fans —but we got work to do. There’s a gap. There’s a gap between Kansas and Iowa State and (us) in these gameday atmospheres and ...

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After thinking about it I don't think Lloyd was talking about fans at all last week

Think it was all to the athletic department

Did you see where he doubled down on it yesterday or the day before?

He tried to sweep it under the bus (in part by leaving the greatness that is the ISU fandom ...

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I'm simply pointing out early pools are built on speculation and are highly inaccurate.

I also pointed out that initial KenPom polls are inaccurate

You posted that Arizona had "outperformed everyone's expectations".

I showed you two different sets of objective data to show that what you ...

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I'm simply pointing out early pools are built on speculation and are highly inaccurate.

I also pointed out that initial KenPom polls are inaccurate

You posted that Arizona had "outperformed everyone's expectations".

I showed you two different sets of objective data to show that what you posted ...

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When Clip starts breaking down the games, I get the same expression on my face when Dove starts talking stocks and bonds. Have to reread them several times.

Dude has to be a coach.

Clip's breakdowns are killer and the most amazing thing about them to me is that he does them real time off of ...

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Man… usually we don’t get to this level of arguing until we get bounced from the tournament

We are stepping up…

Imo it largely stems from the team’s play tanking of late.

By Arizona standards, Arizona has lost a lot of games, 5 of our last 8. And, the best win is vs Baylor, a meh team this ...

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I wasn’t wrong on Miller.

Neither was I. Course I wasn't financially dependent on info from his regime nor the lackey boosters he was smart enough to invite over for dinner weekly.

What follows isn't for the faint of heart so skip ahead if there is a weapon close by.

As you know I was the ...

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First of all my counter to this constant narrative of no this, no that ,could be better at this, and the worst ever something, is just to ask about results.

How did we end up better than anyone predicted?

We didn't. What you post is not true.

The Cats started the season ranked in the AP ...

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Tommy took a lot of those same players and coached them to a 18-2 in conference and 33-4 overall the following year without Akinjo first team PAC-12.

Pretty good for a mediocre coach.

What Lloyd did with some of Miller's players the season immediately after Miller left compared to what ...

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i figured tommy dipped into international recruits as a way to get around NIL deals, as students on f1 visas have employment restrictions (and bc it's something mark few did).

Just saw this DB.

Lloyd took on international recruiting very early in his career because Few suggested that he ...

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Winger I would love to hear your thoughts on this offseason. I know we don’t know who will leave but I am sure you have some thoughts on what would make a good offseason for CTL

1. As Miller’s players have filtered out of the program Lloyd’s teams have got worse. Need to reverse this trend ...

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I dont understand how that tweet directs to the media. Were there media types putting down the experience at McKale and arguing for an expansion of the student section?

I have seen a few recent articles where the media has covered Lloyd’s postgame comments about the McKale crowd being lacking but ...

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Offical stat keeper in McKale. Tommy's remark are not sitting well with some people

https://twitter.com/TomDudd/status/1898868234004447585

Hasn't been stat keeper since 2013....oooooffffffffffff

You keep posting that D wasn’t referring to Lloyd with that tweet. I ask again, who was he ...

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PHXCATS wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 6:52 pm He never said they suck

Come on. You really don’t understand what I was posting there?

Who was Duddleston referring to?

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McKale does not suck in the way Lloyd was alleging. Get out of here with that nonsense. And he was definitely indicting the fanbase. He is completely off the reservation with this nonsense and has been the other 3-4 times he has brought it up. He needs to shut the fuck up on this. Lots of Arizona ...

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I take your #5 as meaning you think a bunch of guys will be on the move so without a doubt he needs to have a top shelf portal year

Its always hard for me to forecast. Rumor mill has been wring more than once and its a different world post-NIL.

But, yeah, in addition to not having much ...

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I have a rule I never break.

Never interact with coaches, players, family unless you are congratulating.

There’s no upside otherwise.

Opposing fans? Combative Media? They get the full FU experience.

Everyone else, all professional all the time.

Rule I used, especially during my kid’s ...

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Lloyd said postgame that McKale wasn’t as good a crowd as ISU and Allen/KU.

I was at Duke ISU and Houston and all 3 sounded way louder and the crowd definitely stood more than what I thought I saw today.

Bout the 4th time he has gone to this well and given that we havent been to a F4 in nearly ...

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You’re right it was 30 seconds, my bad. Rage and fury affecting my eyesight.

Normally I like when coaches do this but 45 sec seemed a bit early.

Defensive strategy on HD was a head scratcher for me. Would love to know why Lloyd chose to do what he did.

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Wow did Lloyd just call the dogs off (no fouls) with 45 sec left down 7?

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Winger I would love to hear your thoughts on this offseason. I know we don’t know who will leave but I am sure you have some thoughts on what would make a good offseason for CTL

Bottom line = top 10 quality lineup.

Baring a crazy run to end the season this team is going to underperform that ...

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The Kansas Jayhawks haven't lost on Senior Day since the 1982-83 season.

An amazing stat. In the same league as KU’s/Self’s 13 consecutive B12 conference titles.

Are we going to see the Arizona team that has mettle, values the ball, and plays defense today? Big game for Bradley. While ...

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Bringing up Jokic is clownish. The best Euros have never played college ball in the US. Using NBA players who never played college ball to justify European collegiate recruiting is simply another ruse to explain away Arizona’s issues.

Ballo for one, wasn’t a Lloyd-at-Arizona recruit. Two, he is ...

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If a fucking “Euro” commits to you and plays 5
min per game his freshman season and then transfers its a fucking whiff.

Pelle wasnt a Lloyd recruit.

The rule of thumb for euros at Arizona under Lloyd to date is whiffage.

Which, being a huge Lloyd guy, is and has been shocking.

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I just watched Tommy's ASU post game news conference. For those here who always seem to be worried / anxious when coaching jobs open up, fearful that Tommy will bolt...

He started talking about family and revealed (news to me at least) that not only have his parents moved to Tucson, his ...

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