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Maybe he is tapping Barnes to take his place. Can you imagine the men's team with that much intensity? Haven't seen so much since the Jason Gardner years.

So what if I'm understanding this correctly Sean Miller has coached his last game here?

What in the everloving heck is going on? First scheer says he's getting extended, then who in the hell is this TOS?
Why are they saying this "smoke" will be bad for miller?
I will be so disappointed if this goes down poorly, especially after Bill Selfish gets a revolving contract.
There is no way we get a better coach than miller if they can him like this at this time.

Just my thoughts, probably not worth the internet space I'm using up to store my drivel.

U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:57 pm What in the everloving heck is going on? First scheer says he's getting extended, then who in the hell is this TOS?
Why are they saying this "smoke" will be bad for miller?
I will be so disappointed if this goes down poorly, especially after Bill Selfish gets a revolving contract.
There is no way we get a better coach than miller if they can him like this at this time.

Just my thoughts, probably not worth the internet space I'm using up to store my drivel.

I'm just as lost as you are man. I'm very confused. Just last week it seemed like an extention was coming

Haven’t seen anything credible. Settle down, guys.

Lmao

Well good, now I can go to sleep, thank you!

U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:57 pm What in the everloving heck is going on? First scheer says he's getting extended, then who in the hell is this TOS?
Why are they saying this "smoke" will be bad for miller?
I will be so disappointed if this goes down poorly, especially after Bill Selfish gets a revolving contract.
There is no way we get a better coach than miller if they can him like this at this time.

Just my thoughts, probably not worth the internet space I'm using up to store my drivel.

UP,
TOS is "The Other Site". Usually refers to the old site run by Jim Storey, but in this case it means Scheer's Wildcat Authority site.

There are about 3..maybe 4 posters at TOS that are worth listening to. If people search there for info, based on posts lol. If you want good analysis/comments/humor...there’s 3 dudes posting that.

The rest of it is and not worth any amount of $$.


Anyhoo...


Lmao.

I will reserve panic until Choo pops in here

I will be so pissed if that ends up happening. Say goodbye to our core from this year. Only way they stay is if JET takes over and even then it's not a guarantee. This administration is trash. If you were going to do it, we should've done it weeks ago so we can get first dibs on coaches. My buddy says he wants Porter Moser. That's interesting but not sure he's ready

Porter is at Oklahoma.

Breathe dude.

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:26 pm There are about 3..maybe 4 posters at TOS that are worth listening to. If people search there for info, based on posts lol. If you want good analysis/comments/humor...there’s 3 dudes posting that.

The rest of it is and not worth any amount of $$.


Anyhoo...


Lmao.

I considered getting a year subscription when they have their big sale. I think one year was 26 or 27 dollars with the special. But I've heard that. Not a lot of braincells on the boards. Lot of idiots from what I've heard from others

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:31 pm Porter is at Oklahoma.

Breathe dude.

I never saw it became official. Saw they were in talks but never official, but thank god

I am old as fuck now and most of this message board shit is super annoying...but this is the best you got. And most of the dudes here I’d share a beer with.

Some I have. Save your $.

The smoke thing sounds real.

Lando05 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:55 pm The smoke thing sounds real.

Oh yeah? Because some schmoe on a website is claiming to have inside info?

Sorry. Not buying it. Not until Choo chimes in.

Not worried. The brain thrust has been in San Antonio. The only way this is true is that they had an agreement with a final four coach and could not announce it till now. People want to be important so they make shit up. Let me give you a perfect example. Hansen's kid Ben reported that Lute Olson was in the mid west closing on a big time recruit. That was strange because I live in California and had dinner with Lute and Rodney Tension (sp) that night. I take what most of these guys say with a grain of salt because the only way they get paid or feel important is to act like they have knowledge we don't.

No offense to Choo because I have no idea what his connections are.

I’ve posted this s before, but I can’t even try to read WIldact Authority.
Every post is a pop up ad trying to get you to subscribe.
I think triangle and too and Kibab post there but it’s unreadable as a nonpaying viewer.

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:08 pm

Lando05 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:55 pm The smoke thing sounds real.

Oh yeah? Because some schmoe on a website is claiming to have inside info?

Sorry. Not buying it. Not until Choo chimes in.

That reminds me of the famous Gin Blossoms song.

I didn't ask
They shouldn't have told me
At first I'd laugh, but now
It's sinking in fast
Whatever they've sold me

Well baby, I don't want to take advice from fools
I'll just figure everything is cool
Until I hear it from Choo

It gets hard
The memory's faded
Who gets what they say
It's likely they're just jealous and jaded

Well maybe I don't want to take advice from fools
I'll just figure everything is cool
Until I hear it from Choo
Until I hear it from Choo

I can't let it get me off
Or break up my train of thought
As far as I know, nothing's wrong
Until I hear it from Choo

Still thinking about not living without it
Outside looking in
'Til we're talking about it, not stepping around it
Maybe

I don't want to take advice from fools
I'll just figure everything is cool
Until I hear it from Choo (hear it from Choo)
Until I hear it from Choo (hear it from Choo)
Until I hear it from Choo (hear it from Choo)
Until I hear it from Choo, oh
Until I hear it from Choo. oh no
Until I hear it from Choo (won't take advice from fools)
Ooh (I'll figure everything is cool)
Until I hear it from Choo (won't take advice from fools)
Oh (I'll figure everything is cool)
Until I hear it from Choo

Hilarious, Spiff.

So, I'm not expecting any Miller extension news because the women's team is returning home.

Will Robbins now turn to softball and baseball and not wanting to steal their spotlight as for a reason not extending Miller?

Get on with it!!

I think we will know more about Sean's future by the end of this week.

Robbins will probably announce his firing at the Welcome Home Celebration today... just to be a complete asshole

zonagrad wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:48 am So, I'm not expecting any Miller extension news because the women's team is returning home.

Will Robbins now turn to softball and baseball and not wanting to steal their spotlight as for a reason not extending Miller?

Get on with it!!

No doubt. Don't forget the Spring Game towards the end of the month! Could be the first football win in a long time, very exciting!

The longer this goes on the more likely it seems that Miller is either gone or left to coach without an extension IMO.

Tucson: I'll take Extraordinary rendition for $2000.00, Alex

Alex: And the answer is: Water torture administered by a cretinous pissant.

Ding! Tucson ....

Tucson: What is it like to be a UofA fan?

Something better happen soon.

Merkin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:32 am Something better happen soon.

Contract extensions are only for coaches who did well this year. Nothing that happened prior to the 2020-21 season matters, apparently.

Btw, can't believe we're now in April without any news.

Dick Face is just going to let Miller term out. I can feel it in my bones.

azgreg wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:00 pm Dick Face is just going to let Miller term out. I can feel it in my bones.

Sweet justice is Miller coaching next year with zero job security -- and then making a run to the Final Four. And then telling Robbins to go fuck himself on national TV.

I hope Sean has already been extended or this is very bad. Our recruiting will be fucked

84Cat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:31 pm I hope Sean has already been extended or this is very bad. Our recruiting will be fucked

Was just about to post this.

What the hell Robbins? You're seriously gonna let this drag on into the summer?!

AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:34 pm

84Cat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:31 pm I hope Sean has already been extended or this is very bad. Our recruiting will be fucked

Was just about to post this.

What the hell Robbins? You're seriously gonna let this drag on into the summer?!

This is like being forced to watch snuff porn on a shitty internet connection that just keeps buffering.

I expect they'll announce the extension within the next two weeks, and that it will be approved at the June BOR meeting. If it's anything other than that, Sean should resign and take a different job. I'm serious.

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:08 pm I expect they'll announce the extension within the next two weeks, and that it will be approved at the June BOR meeting. If it's anything other than that, Sean should resign and take a different job. I'm serious.

Would you walk away from $2.5M and try to find another job? It seems to me that we will be in the position next year that either Sean Miller will have another down year and we will move on from him or he will find the magic again and he will move on from us. If he succeeds and he will be a hot coach with no buyout, he fails and Robbins will get what he appears to want and we will be able to replace him with no buyout. Either way, it appears that we will be in the market for a coach next year. Hopefully some good options present themselves.

Some heat needs to be put on Robbins publicly if there's no announcement of an extension. At this point, all he is doing is handicapping Miller for a much tougher season. The AD & President's job is to help their coaches in every way possible. If Robbins prefers to let Miller twist (and thus the program twist), a disappointing season is on more on Robbins and less on Miller. And Tucson media needs to ask some pointed questions at Heeke & Robbins. And if those guys won't do an interview and accept those questions -- then it's time for columnists, radio, etc... to state the obvious. At this point -- Heeke & Robbins are looking like amateurs in the college sports world while schools like Kansas, UNC, etc... and stepping up and doing whatever it takes for the good of their programs. Infuriating!!!!

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:13 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:08 pm I expect they'll announce the extension within the next two weeks, and that it will be approved at the June BOR meeting. If it's anything other than that, Sean should resign and take a different job. I'm serious.

Would you walk away from $2.5M and try to find another job? It seems to me that we will be in the position next year that either Sean Miller will have another down year and we will move on from him or he will find the magic again and he will move on from us. If he succeeds and he will be a hot coach with no buyout, he fails and Robbins will get what he appears to want and we will be able to replace him with no buyout. Either way, it appears that we will be in the market for a coach next year. Hopefully some good options present themselves.

You're adding momentum to a down year for Miller by hamstringing him this year regarding recruits and transfers. All for what? To avoid paying a single year buyout? You fire fast and hire slow. If Robbins is "done" with Miller, he needs to do it immediately. If not, then you extend Miller 2-3 years and see what transpires. If you decide next year that Miller isn't the one, then you fire him. It's extremely shortsighted to try and save a few dollars in the short run because you're damaging the program in the long run.

The next coach here will have to undergo a longer rebuild if you let Miller coach without an extension and then fire him.

Robbins has bought himself some time with the firing of Sumlin and hiring of Fisch. But let's not pretend it was a great hire just yet. It may prove to be -- in another 3-4 years. But you didn't need to be smart as a heart surgeon to realize that Sumlin needed to go immediately.

The successful coaches at Arizona -- the ones that have won (Miller, Candrea, Johnson, Barnes, Rubio) and are winning -- have no ties to Robbins & Heeke. They were successful before the current clown show started their meddling. Robbins & Heeke have been a disaster with the football program. They brought in Sumlin. Let's not praise them for fucking up a good situation, making it untenable and then getting busy trying to fix the disaster they created by hiring an NFL assistant desperate for his first head coaching gig.

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:13 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:08 pm I expect they'll announce the extension within the next two weeks, and that it will be approved at the June BOR meeting. If it's anything other than that, Sean should resign and take a different job. I'm serious.

Would you walk away from $2.5M and try to find another job? It seems to me that we will be in the position next year that either Sean Miller will have another down year and we will move on from him or he will find the magic again and he will move on from us. If he succeeds and he will be a hot coach with no buyout, he fails and Robbins will get what he appears to want and we will be able to replace him with no buyout. Either way, it appears that we will be in the market for a coach next year. Hopefully some good options present themselves.

I wouldn't walk away from it, but Sean may have other opportunities we don't know about. I know many here think he's "toxic," but given how long he's been around and how well he's done overall, he's also got plenty of good relationships with people at the college and pro levels. It's silly to act like Sean can't land on his feet somewhere else. He's not going to get another job as good as his current one, not right now at least. But Sean Miller remains a competitive candidate for plenty of other jobs.

What's most interesting to me is how Sean's AD and/or university president are undermining him. I've never seen anything like this.

I don't understand how Miller can be considered toxic and yet Bill Self was just awarded a lifetime contract and dozens of programs would gladly take him on despite possible NCAA punishment. Miller walking away from $2.5 million next season (or whatever he's owed) and taking on a new 5-year deal at less money per year makes perfect sense. He gets five years guaranteed money and job security. Maryland extended Mark Turgeon for goodness sake. Turgeon!!!! Nobody at Maryland likes him and now they're stuck with him.

How excited would Texas Tech be to get Sean Miller? Miller isn't going to get a show/cause penalty. He's not implicated in the NOA as having committed a violation. Big difference.

Firing Miller this late would have to be the dumbest decision in the world.

So it's certainly on the table.....

zonagrad wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:32 pm I don't understand how Miller can be considered toxic and yet Bill Self was just awarded a lifetime contract and dozens of programs would gladly take him on despite possible NCAA punishment. Miller walking away from $2.5 million next season (or whatever he's owed) and taking on a new 5-year deal at less money per year makes perfect sense. He gets five years guaranteed money and job security. Maryland extended Mark Turgeon for goodness sake. Turgeon!!!! Nobody at Maryland likes him and now they're stuck with him.

How excited would Texas Tech be to get Sean Miller? Miller isn't going to get a show/cause penalty. He's not implicated in the NOA as having committed a violation. Big difference.

Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at, zg. I think the people calling Miller toxic and somehow unhireable may be underestimating his appeal to other, less renowned programs. Texas Tech is actually a terrific job, as we saw during Beard's tenure there.

Miller is one of the more successful Pac coaches of the last couple decades, even with all the recent crap. He's gonna be fine one way or another.

This may sound stupid, but what if Robbins/Heeke are of the mindset that delaying the extension will force CSM to walk away from the UofA and by doing so make him look like the bad guy for everything that has transpired over the past few years.

I cannot be the only person bothered by the fact that Robbins is out there shopping for an assistant coach to take the job of a coach he hasn’t fired yet, a coach who is still out there repping the university, recruiting, etc.

And, why would Tommy Lloyd (sounds too much like Tim Floyd), in the middle of an undefeated championship run, be talking to Robbins or his minions? And, why, again, do we pay Dave Heeke?

I so very badly wanted to see this team, these guys, play together next year. It felt like it was going to be special. If this is true, I may turn in my several decade fan card.

Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:14 am Robbins will probably announce his firing at the Welcome Home Celebration today... just to be a complete asshole

Did you watch the video of this event? He looked drunk or that he had a stroke while he talked.

TheCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:40 pm

Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:14 am Robbins will probably announce his firing at the Welcome Home Celebration today... just to be a complete asshole

Did you watch the video of this event? He looked drunk or that he had a stroke while he talked.

I particularly liked his badly he stumbled over the mayor’s name.

ekat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:34 pm I cannot be the only person bothered by the fact that Robbins is out there shopping for an assistant coach to take the job of a coach he hasn’t fired yet, a coach who is still out there repping the university, recruiting, etc.

And, why would Tommy Lloyd (sounds too much like Tim Floyd), in the middle of an undefeated championship run, be talking to Robbins or his minions? And, why, again, do we pay Dave Heeke?

I so very badly wanted to see this team, these guys, play together next year. It felt like it was going to be special. If this is true, I may turn in my several decade fan card.

I am assuming this is just conjecture, because from the outside looking in this seems like a logical explanation for the Miller contract situation fiasco. Those looking in from the outside however do not know Bob Robbins and that this is just what a garbage President he is.

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:44 pm

ekat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:34 pm I cannot be the only person bothered by the fact that Robbins is out there shopping for an assistant coach to take the job of a coach he hasn’t fired yet, a coach who is still out there repping the university, recruiting, etc.

And, why would Tommy Lloyd (sounds too much like Tim Floyd), in the middle of an undefeated championship run, be talking to Robbins or his minions? And, why, again, do we pay Dave Heeke?

I so very badly wanted to see this team, these guys, play together next year. It felt like it was going to be special. If this is true, I may turn in my several decade fan card.

I am assuming this is just conjecture, because from the outside looking in this seems like a logical explanation for the Miller contract situation fiasco. Those looking in from the outside however do not know Bob Robbins and that this is just what a garbage President he is.

I have next to zero inside info. But that makes me incredibly sad, as a grad, and as a lifetime fan that’s been following them since Snowden was here. And his contract will likely get extended which will suck all over again.

ekat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:34 pm I cannot be the only person bothered by the fact that Robbins is out there shopping for an assistant coach to take the job of a coach he hasn’t fired yet, a coach who is still out there repping the university, recruiting, etc.

And, why would Tommy Lloyd (sounds too much like Tim Floyd), in the middle of an undefeated championship run, be talking to Robbins or his minions? And, why, again, do we pay Dave Heeke?

I so very badly wanted to see this team, these guys, play together next year. It felt like it was going to be special. If this is true, I may turn in my several decade fan card.

I'm with you. All I care about was seeing this team Year 2. They showed me a lot this past season and they were very easy to root for. I would love to see what an off-season of development and chemistry would look like on the floor.

Not buying this story for a minute. Lloyd appears to be heir apparent there and takes over program with very uncertain future?
Would think he'd take over in a couple years, or slightly more, and if not, go to a solid gig without the possible drama ahead.